I found this on our board, never saw it before.
on: March 25, 2015, 02:16:45 PM
New to this site. I am looking for fellow members of btc that want to join me in taking ellis and keith smith to court for fraud. I can't believe these scam artists have been running this scheme for so long. My goal is to get members back their money but also prevent future people from being scammed. If you are a btc member that has been scammed please notify me. If we get enough people we can do a class action lawsuit. My wife is a lawyer and I am willing to pay all legal fees."
You know I wrote somewhere on our board here my short experience with BEAT-THE-CASINO and its owner, Keith.
It was not that long ago, possibly about a year ago??? It was about the time Vic brought BetSelection down for the first time to do some attempted modifications, etc.
I was invited on Beat The Casino by another member of BTC and I knew the member from other boards a little bit over the past few years.
Fact: I went on BTC with a few copy and pastes of my own, my original posts that I just put on here within my Blog I think. The posts were mine, not threads that were common place owned and commented on gossip, just some of my own stuff.
Fact: I was immediately blasted and called out for posting. I was challenged for not properly introducing myself and merging in, I guess. The PM's I received were explaining how the most popular, about 10 members were offended as to my openness, to the point and how I copied and pasted from BetSelection, etc.
Fact: I was contacted by Keith and he told me to 'cool it' and 'chill out' amongst other things. I really only posted i think 5 posts about baccarat and they were all my own info, findings and no gossip or other people's involvement, etc. I was continually for a couple of days blasted and blasted by several of the regular members.
Fact: Then I discovered a regular member with a strong voice on BTC that was a 'side kick' of sorts to a previous message board owner that was heavily involved in baccarat in Vegas among other places. I knew him personally, we gambled together several times, I wrote on his board as well. But that person imploded while playing baccarat for extremely large stakes and wound on in debt well over $500,000.00 with outstanding markers which were or did, turn into criminal charges within the city of Las Vegas. But what got me, was here this regular member of BTC was boasting himself, chastising new members with long standing play history at B&M's casinos, etc., and never stepped up and admitted he was the side-kick to this other person that was highly admired, imploded, lost most everything including non casino related family business assets and all, and related.
Fact: I realized within a couple of days, 2?, 3?, whatever, who ran BTC, the aura, the atmosphere and all the gossip type of stuff going on. Then I realized the sales pitches, the baccarat crawls, the videos and the conferences being sold by Keith.
Fact: Then I was approached and squared off on that, if I did not join up for the $150.00 and $50.00 a month, I was not serious, a fake, a phony, a lair and everything else along those lines, outright and hard.
Fact: I called Keith and demanded in about 4 or 5 text message and/or phone calls, that he remove/delete my posts and that would be that. He challenged me, told me to get off his board and he took at what I said as a physical threat to himself. He also misrepresented to the police department as to how many times I actually phoned him or texted. I said, if push came to shove, I would obtain a certify Verizon phone transcript as to shoe my daily usage and calls.
Fact: Keith went to his local police department and reported me. I received a phone call from a police officer in Keith's township in Pennsylvania. He wanted my side of the story. He said, that I could be charged with threats, etc. I told him I was strictly requesting and demanding my posts be removed by Keith and that was the entire scope and meaning of my communication with Keith. The police officer told me I was not to go on to the site and if I did, I would be prosecuted and charged with criminal actions. I laughed on the phone, I repeated what had happened and told the police officer for sake of peace and to circumvent further problems, I would not go onto that site or contact Keith. The police officer told me worse case scenario was threats and least scenario was harassment.
Fact: It is my opinion that the entire site is a bad influence into the message board/forum industry and is nothing more than a private site, conducted by a person selling and promoting systems, events, and a monthly pay for site, that has a handful of people grouped together that claim huge professional success and elite status.
Fact: IMO and personal experience, the claims to the multi millions of dollars made by several/numerous BTC players each, is fraudulent, fictitious and unproven.