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Title: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: TwoCatSam on January 22, 2013, 02:34:44 PM
I've hunted everywhere!!

It is the odds all eight combinations of the ECs happening.

For example:

HHH...............one try
HHL.............three tries

and it goes on through all eight.  For all eight to appear it takes something like 24 tries.

Does anyone remember this?  I've tried every search word I can.

Sam
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: PLIP50 on January 22, 2013, 04:06:52 PM
Its J/L's  Pattern breaker HHH,LLL,HLH,LHL,HHL,LLH,HLL,LHH   Wait for 7 of the 8 combinations to show then bet against the last one remaining. With a small Marty 1,2,4
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: JohnLegend on January 22, 2013, 04:17:06 PM
Quote from: PLIP50 on January 22, 2013, 04:06:52 PM
Its J/L's  Pattern breaker HHH,LLL,HLH,LHL,HHL,LLH,HLL,LHH   Wait for 7 of the 8 combinations to show then bet against the last one remaining. With a small Marty 1,2,4
I don't think so PLIP50, Sam knows where the PB thread is.
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: PLIP50 on January 22, 2013, 04:25:13 PM
My apologies if I am wrong, but I have tried quite a few systems, and the brief explanation does ring true. Keep up the good work J/L.      I do OK with p/b.
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: JohnLegend on January 22, 2013, 04:39:21 PM
Quote from: PLIP50 on January 22, 2013, 04:25:13 PM
My apologies if I am wrong, but I have tried quite a few systems, and the brief explanation does ring true. Keep up the good work J/L.      I do OK with p/b.
What you mean there are now 4 people playing PB? Lol!!
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: PLIP50 on January 22, 2013, 04:50:49 PM
A lot more than 4, most prob won't admit it.
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: JohnLegend on January 22, 2013, 04:55:46 PM
Quote from: PLIP50 on January 22, 2013, 04:50:49 PM
A lot more than 4, most prob won't admit it.
I have thought that a few times. Just remember PB is about using all three elements I believe in to be successful in this game. BET SELECTION, MONEY MANAGEMENT & H.A.R. If you understand how all three make this method work. You will do more than alright.

Keep it going.
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: Bayes on January 22, 2013, 07:04:39 PM
Sam, I think this might be the one you're looking for:

http://www.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=7046.0 (http://www.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=7046.0)
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: TwoCatSam on January 23, 2013, 01:24:02 AM
Bayes

You are a gentleman and a scholar and have a mind like a hard drive!!

Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for.

Sam
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: Bayes on January 23, 2013, 07:57:44 AM
Sam,

Talking about remembering stuff, do you recall a guy (I'm pretty sure his name was 'Ray') who used to post at that forum? He used to brag a lot about how he never lost at roulette. A few years ago (at least 3, I think) there was a test going on with Herb - you know what Herb was like, always trashing systems and saying they were a waste of time. This guy Ray made some big claims so Herb challenged him and starting posting numbers. Ray did very well on that test (I think it was a 6 number system) and even Herb seemed impressed. I recall a little later that you said you had the system he had been using but hadn't gotten around to testing it. Do you remember this? just wondered whether you still had the system somewhere on your hard drive.
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: TwoCatSam on January 23, 2013, 01:58:35 PM
Bayes

I do recall all that a more!  Seems like after the test started, someone came along and said they had seen that trot of numbers and Ray probably had, too.  So they started over.  Now, this may have been the "Holyman" test--hard to remember.  But after they started over, the guy just kept winning!  Herb finally quit the test for whatever reason.  He took at lot of flack from someone....Diarmaid, I think.

Anyway, I spoke to "Holyman" some and he provided me with some charts.  They were pure Voodoo and I could make neither heads nor tails of them.  Much like the stuff Gamlet started posting.  Pretty but useless!

I do not have any such numbers by Ray or anyone else--that worked for any length of time.  Over the years I've been sent five numbers and six numbers and told to play them.  Not how to play them; just to play them.  I remember telling Holyman he would be soon selling his method.  I don't ever recall speaking to Ray.

Some still say the Holyman Test was a fraud, but the person giving the numbers and the checker swore they had not cheated.

Sam
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: Kattila on January 23, 2013, 02:37:06 PM
Quote from: Bayes on January 23, 2013, 07:57:44 AM
Sam,

Talking about remembering stuff, do you recall a guy (I'm pretty sure his name was 'Ray') who used to post at that forum? He used to brag a lot about how he never lost at roulette. A few years ago (at least 3, I think) there was a test going on with Herb - you know what Herb was like, always trashing systems and saying they were a waste of time. This guy Ray made some big claims so Herb challenged him and starting posting numbers. Ray did very well on that test (I think it was a 6 number system) and even Herb seemed impressed. I recall a little later that you said you had the system he had been using but hadn't gotten around to testing it. Do you remember this? just wondered whether you still had the system somewhere on your hard drive.

Hi Bayes , I have one system by some Ray guy (maybe it s just another Ray or another system , don t know).
I never tested/played this system ......
cheers
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: TwoCatSam on January 23, 2013, 02:43:13 PM
katilla

This is a very interesting system.  I've seen it before.  It would be perfect to program into Stef and Nick's bot.

I don't think it's the one Bayes is referring to.  That was six numbers and pure flat betting.  His hit rate was phenomenal!

Sam
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: Bayes on January 23, 2013, 03:12:53 PM
Sam, did holyman post on the VLS forum? I've heard the name before but don't remember reading any of his posts anywhere.

@ kattilla, thanks for uploading that system but I'm certain it wasn't the one this particular Ray was using. As Sam said, it was flat betting only and always 6 numbers.

It stuck in my mind because many have taken challenges over the years in forums, and flunked them. This guy had a winner, I'm sure of it.
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: Bally6354 on January 23, 2013, 03:23:04 PM
I remember reading that thread ages ago.

Was it not something to do with numerology?

My curiosity got the better of me after reading that thread and I remember then looking in the archives of the old rouletteforum.net site. I am sure the guy did a test there as well and passed with flying colours. I am also pretty certain holyman was a prolific poster on there as well. I never found anything concrete that you could pin down and test.

I get the feeling a lot of the guys on those sites were into all the matrix stuff and voodoo.

I am not saying it does not work! I hope it did and still does for some of them, however I never found anything that I could actually use.
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: Bally6354 on January 23, 2013, 03:53:26 PM
There are two threads on page 30 of the main section at rouletteforum.net

''Another challenge for ray'' (155 replies)

and

''Friendly challenge for holyman'' (528 replies)  :o

Maybe that will give someone some clues or answers.
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: Bally6354 on January 23, 2013, 04:20:50 PM
It appears after spending some time reading the holyman thread that he used his own version of 'kimo li' strategies. People who spoke with him in private never really got to the bottom of it.

I don't have a clue how Ray did it. He seemed to go from picking 2 numbers to 6 numbers in various challenges and won them all.

If memory serves me correct, he was from South Africa! There was another guy posting around that time from the same area and he was called Jacksaidaisal or something like that. He seemed to have an idea what he was talking about and it may be that Ray helped him out a bit. Maybe reading some of his posts would be worth the effort.

I will keep my private thoughts to myself however I would spend time looking at ray's posts before studying anything holyman said.

cheers.
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: Sputnik on January 23, 2013, 09:47:59 PM

I google on holyman plus roulette ...
I only find woody matrix ...

Sorry i don't believe in that ...

I remember some of the old names, this bobbybobby guy scam SeeJerek in the past with Kimo Li strategy and there was money involved.
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: Bally6354 on January 23, 2013, 11:07:41 PM
Quote from: Sputnik on January 23, 2013, 09:47:59 PM
  I remember some of the old names, this bobbybobby guy scam SeeJerek in the past with Kimo Li strategy and there was money involved.

That is what I was alluding to regarding the holyman threads!

The majority of threads on that site are not worth investigating.

I don't mind admitting I have probably trawled through every roulette message board throughout the years just looking for bits and pieces of info that I could work with.

My personal opinion is numerology and the matrix stuff don't work.

cheers
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: TwoCatSam on January 24, 2013, 12:37:28 AM
I remember there were death threats over that ripping off!
Title: Re: Someone please help me find a post/thread.
Post by: Sputnik on January 24, 2013, 06:22:59 AM
Quote from: Bally6354 on January 23, 2013, 11:07:41 PM

That is what I was alluding to regarding the holyman threads!

The majority of threads on that site are not worth investigating.

I don't mind admitting I have probably trawled through every roulette message board throughout the years just looking for bits and pieces of info that I could work with.

My personal opinion is numerology and the matrix stuff don't work.

cheers

I know one way how to deal with numbers that i find being optimal.
You catch a slight bias wheel and reduce the house edge or you ride out all does hot number due towards random fluctuation.  know one way how

Reason i don't post it is that others would only regard it as one roulette system among others.
Even if the method use physical parameters.

QuoteI remember there were death threats over that ripping off!

True.