Members and guests here, had read thousands of post here, many will noticed that,
if someone says...ber EC....
1) bet the single color to streaks..
Others will say the other side may sleep for 30spins..
2) bet the chops
Others will say the other side may previal...
3) follow the last..
Others will say, the chops may prolong...
4)Then follow 2nd last..
Others will say, the long killer sequence may show up...
5) bet strictly, only a color..
Others will say , horrible ecart may hit ...
6) bet the leader..
They say, leader suddenly become follower..
What method, that could win,
When ...
streaks hit, (bbbbbbbbbb ... )
chops hit,(brbrbrbrbr....)
Imbalance ecart hit...
I think, follow 2nd last, is the answer.
Because, only a specific sequence can kill ft2nd last.
bbrrbbrrbbrrbbrrbb
brrbbrrbbrrbbrrbbr
and short sequence in clusters...
bbrr, r,bbrrb, b,brrbbrrbb
Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on March 21, 2018, 07:12:52 AM
Members and guests here, had read thousands of post here, many will noticed that,
if someone says...ber EC....
1) bet the single color to streaks..
Others will say the other side may sleep for 30spins..
2) bet the chops
Others will say the other side may previal...
3) follow the last..
Others will say, the chops may prolong...
4)Then follow 2nd last..
Others will say, the long killer sequence may show up...
5) bet strictly, only a color..
Others will say , horrible ecart may hit ...
6) bet the leader..
They say, leader suddenly become follower..
What method, that could win,
When ...
streaks hit, (bbbbbbbbbb ... )
chops hit,(brbrbrbrbr....)
Imbalance ecart hit...
I think, follow 2nd last, is the answer.
Because, only a specific sequence can kill ft2nd last.
bbrrbbrrbbrrbbrrbb
brrbbrrbbrrbbrrbbr
and short sequence in clusters...
bbrr, r,bbrrb, b,brrbbrrbb
It should work pretty well with the right MM. Thank you.
Thanks Ted009.
And since only one deadly horrible streak kill the br, the only way to maximize hits, is to outwait the loser streaks, hoping the next streaks will be winning streaks...
So we must have mm that outwait the losing cluster of loser streaks,
And a progression strategy,
that OUTWAIT THE HORRIBLE LOSING IN PROGRESSION!!!
How?
By waiting for the losing in progression, to happen first!
Virtual losing in progression.
In OVER SIMPLIFIED example.
Progression=1, 2, 3, 4, 5..so on till win.
Bet 1u, virtually, reset at every positive 1u win,
Bet till you have virtual loss of -10u.
(thus u lose, but save -10u, and you avoid the variance)
Then bet 2u, till u win, or -20u losses.(actually, lose only -10u)
Then bet 3u, till u win or 30u losses, and so on...
This is oversimplified example of , avoiding horrible variance,
without need to note down your bet, only losses, in unit term.
However, the biggest problem remains progression, we can wait a long time for negative results, but they can reach virtual limits, and do not go to equilibrium.
It can last up to several thousand spins
And u can change the VirtualLosses parameter to, say , -20unit, then u avoid horrible variance losses, of cluster of losses, or streaks of losses sequences,
We are not rushing to lose money, but wait PATIENTLY, TO BYPASS LOSING SEQUENCE.
Thus betting 1u, till it reach a preset losses, is a simple way to avoid horrible variance, and the mild progression, help to win, when streaks or winning cluster arrives
Somewhere in my old posts I have been looking for such a negative progression, so that I can stretch as many failures as possible.
I still think that it would have been destroyed with a really bad variance.
Thanks Ozon,
Since we have no choice, we could only wait till that destroy ing sequence variance to arrived first.
This is the old post:
Going back to Nick's Vdw
If we have very stable selections by AP, we can even more restrict the variance. After 4 or even 3 straight losing bets we wait for virtual win, in this way we avoid long series of loses.
In some thread I read that by keeping the rules, drawdowns in exceptional circumstances exceeded -100 units from highest point.
One thing that can be used is this progression
Only theoretically, I have an idea for a very long progressions designed for bot and RNG.
We use these steps of progression, but in this way, raise the stakes after 20units down from the highest point of the bankroll, or say if the 20 losing bets from the top rise in steps
1
2
3
5
8
12
18
This is 980 units, and the must-140 lost bets from highest point to lose.
Sometimes you need thousands of spins to reach new high. But this is just a theory
We play so when we lose the first 20 units, and we play 2 units we must win 20 bets to back to 1 unit, we have to either win 20 bets or lose 20 bets at each level. If we win 20 bets on higher level and we have ne
Sometimes we can wait up to 50 losing bet, befor we start using progression, but still i don't know it will be enough
Thanks Ozon,
I think, we need a stable bet, that hit -3%, in say, 300spins, (or 370spins, that ten cycles of 37spins),
If we can have a bet selection, that always produce only 10+ units, in 300spins, that stable,
If it lose 50u, in 300spins,
then win 50in 300spins, that unstable.
The certified record for Ec, is, 69hit/200 spins.
That is 62u losses in 200spins.
hi folks,
here are some results of flatbetting dbl. played like this:
when dbl was "black" I bet "even" - when dbl was "red" I bet odd.
cheers
hans
Thanks Han,
Your method using , preset random ,
to bet random, which will adhere to , math expectation. in long run.
If we could avoid horrible variance, then mild progression, could win constantly.
hi b.t.w.,
these were just some test results from 2 boring afternoons at the weekend. :)
in my oppinion we don't necessarily need a "mild" progression. i guess the progression depends on the frequency in which the wins come in and how many wins come in in a row. maybe this can be played using a prgression where two or three wins in a row would make up for the losses.
unforunately i'm not an excel expert and could only check my assumption by counting. maybe somebody in here is and can help if i send him the rx session file?
cheers
hans
Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on March 21, 2018, 07:12:52 AM
Members and guests here, had read thousands of post here, many will noticed that,
if someone says...ber EC....
1) bet the single color to streaks..
Others will say the other side may sleep for 30spins..
2) bet the chops
Others will say the other side may previal...
3) follow the last..
Others will say, the chops may prolong...
4)Then follow 2nd last..
Others will say, the long killer sequence may show up...
5) bet strictly, only a color..
Others will say , horrible ecart may hit ...
6) bet the leader..
They say, leader suddenly become follower..
What method, that could win,
When ...
streaks hit, (bbbbbbbbbb ... )
chops hit,(brbrbrbrbr....)
Imbalance ecart hit...
I think, follow 2nd last, is the answer.
Because, only a specific sequence can kill ft2nd last.
bbrrbbrrbbrrbbrrbb
brrbbrrbbrrbbrrbbr
and short sequence in clusters...
bbrr, r,bbrrb, b,brrbbrrbb
Hi B.T.W,
We all know the singles and series on ECs, BRBRBRBRBRBR, BBRRBBRRRBBBRR,
BRRBRRBRRRBRR, RBBBRBBBRRBB, etc...all this can be created by random.
But, if ...we have Always as trigger a kind of pattern like BRBRBRBR.....,
or BBRRBBRRBBRR.... , in my case groups 1 and 2 ( 121212..../ 11221122...)
So you take what random gives you and put them into your own order/pattern.
This can be done with streets or splits:
Street / *EC* groups ( singles pattern)
3 1
9 2
2 1
7 2
12 1
8 2
1 1
5 2
Not complete EC groups yet , this are growing groups .
For the moment each group have 4 streets, now can start
betting for the last group to repeat, so against pattern.
next spins
2 1 L1
10 2 new L2
11 1 new L3
8 1 W
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Other pattern
Street / group (series pattern)
4 1
7 1
11 2
8 2
7 1
9 1
12 2
1 2 now bet against pattern
5 1 new L1
4 1 L2
8 2 L3
10 2 new L4
1 2 W
Same ( chops and series) can be done with SPLITS, in this case
the trigger will be longer.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
-------------------------------
*dozens * or *columns* example
Splits group
5 a
12 b
3 c
8 a
10 b
3 c
14 a
7 b
18 c
6 a
10 b
2 c bet against,so bet the last 2 groups
8 a L1
11 b new L2
15 c new L3
5 a L4
13 b new L5
6 a W
Sooner or later the groups will change the position....
Also after that trigger from above ( *doz* abc..) can bet for the
second last group or for the last to repeat, so bet one group.
Also see this :
https://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19239.0
I think the best EC bet is: BRB = Be Right Back!
The only combination which kills it is the RBR = aRe Both Right!
Wow, such a discovery! ;D
Thanks Kattila, for your ideas.
Waiting for special streaks and formation, a good idea, need more brainstorming.