Test to see if freeze-ups are reduced (at least being manageable). Please post and report.
Yes... Long hours of work ahead to get this new layout up to its greatest potential, but taking them with a smile :nod:
We'll get there! Thanks!
Nice colour scheme. Is this on the new server?
So far, whilst typing this reply, there have been no freeze-ups. By now there would have been several.
Still happy to report none so far... Eeyore had a look in his eye but I stuck his nose in his feedbag before he could speak.
Signing off now and still no freeze-ups. Well, not for me at any rate.
Quote from: esoito on March 09, 2016, 06:41:23 AMNice colour scheme. Is this on the new server?
Thanks for reporting Max, we have our eyes placed on moving to a high-availability server rather soon... (but it's still same server right now :D)
Quote from: esoito on March 09, 2016, 06:41:23 AMSo far, whilst typing this reply, there have been no freeze-ups.
Great! Even if they are at least bearable it's an improvement.
P.S. the site should prove better on mobile. It's passing google's mobile test now:
https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/?url=betselection.cc
:applause:
Vic,
The typing is a lot easier. Not as many cursor freeze ups so far when typing a reply. I quite like the look of the new layout. More modern and a cleaner look. Good job! :thumbsup:
Freezing while typing and page slowness is still present
BUT it's a lot better.
Thanks for reporting. I'm glad things are more bearable.
The ultimate solution of course is to have the web engine coded from scratch (clean slate). Hopefully there is enough sponsorship and hours to make it a reality this year.
Anything else, just "shout". There are missing features to add to this new layout and I'm on it :nod:
Cheers!
Like!
No issues on my end-looks solid
Quote from: VLS on March 09, 2016, 04:22:00 PM
Anything else, just "shout". There are missing features to add to this new layout and I'm on it :nod:
Noooo!!!
It used to look like an Indian bus. Its fine as it is
Just discovered the Recent Posts button didn't actually display any recent posts.
And -- gggrrrr -- it's been freezing whilst typing this message!
Back to being a traditional site.
Hopefully, at least the slow-downs are attenuated with this rather simple layout.
Good job
Looks awesome now
And FAST
QuoteThe ultimate solution of course is to have the web engine coded from scratch (clean slate). Hopefully there is enough sponsorship and hours to make it a reality this year.
What coding do you mean? The smf forum software is used by hundreds of thousands of forums, many with far more traffic. Its already very fast. Why would you need to re-code anything?
And if you need fast servers, I can host it for free on my servers.
Also im certain the freeze up were something like a javascrpt plugin. Just disable it. that's no reason to completely recode the smf engine.
Quote from: Steve H on March 12, 2016, 02:35:13 AMWhat coding do you mean?
Hello Steve, the idea is to have a 100% clean slate to implement features we've been collecting throughout the years which simply aren't available on the current web engine.
For instance, there is
a project to have a single database (http://betforum.cc) of members across sites to give each user his/her own space with personalized rules, layout/theme, sections, etc.
The goal is to have a web application framework to which we can "plug in" sites to, all sharing the same members, with goodies like a community game server (no real-money gambling, just fake chips), so users can demonstrate their skills in public.
Features would also include moderation beyond what is currently available here. Having per-user lists of friends and foes with different settings for each, with the ability to set per-thread permissions too.
Well, right now it's all in a fuzzy state; only time will tell what actually makes it into the end-product. It's in the very-malleable idea stage right now, but -as you know-
big things have small beginnings :)
Quote from: Steve H on March 12, 2016, 02:35:13 AMAnd if you need fast servers, I can host it for free on my servers.
Actually, we have our eyes set in a high-availability setup, the kind that is being used for email servers and other mission-critical services.
These days they are quite affordable. There are enough gambling enthusiasts around to justify real-time dependable services (i.e. gaming, chat and even streamlined social networking for the niche!).
Quote from: Steve H on March 12, 2016, 02:35:13 AMAlso im certain the freeze up were something like a javascrpt plugin. Just disable it. that's no reason to completely recode the smf engine.
Well, it's not the SMF engine but a home-grown engine catering to the dynamics of gambling sites. Giving each member a personalized entire sub-forum where he/she can set the rules sure beats granting a simple section.
We''ll see how it goes.
Development pace depends on the level of sponsorship we get throughout the year. There are some money-making projects floating around such as what we recently did: opening our pages to ads from casinos.
(And the year is still young! :nod:)
You are a lovely bloke Vic and I like you for what that's worth but.....( you knew there was a but)
You have been busy being busy for years.
I reported freeze ups 18 months ago.
Pretty icons and links to every site in the world and still freeze ups.
The site change looked great and it lasted 2 days
Busy being busy
:cheer: O0 8) :glasses: :football:
At least I can still do that though...eh?
Quote from: Bally6354 on March 09, 2016, 01:10:57 PM
Vic,
The typing is a lot easier. Not as many cursor freeze ups so far when typing a reply. I quite like the look of the new layout. More modern and a cleaner look. Good job! :thumbsup:
Regardless of the layout, the most important has been improved significantly, I'm talking about the freezing screens.
So yes, I agree with Bally.
Big improvement. :thumbsup:
For me, it still freezes in PM mode.
Or am I the only one thus afflicted?
Victor,
I don't know all the fuctionality you want to add, but what you mentioned is already available. Smf forum allows members to change the forum theme, if admin allows it. And any member can already have their own area with their own rules.
There are also already scripts that allow multiple players online. Making your own though would be realitively simple script mods, without needing to code from scratch. If you modify the smf engine, you degrade performance. If you just add php scripts the use a separate database, that would be ok but php hogs resources.
Things like additional moderation abilities is probably in an existing mod, but there ate smf coders that could probably do it in an hour.
High availability servers are for things like ad networks that lose money by the second if servers are down. I've had 100% uptime fir 12 months with my host, and the only problems I've had were with my stupid mistakes and cloudflare, which is not a reliable service. Most reasonable hosts have 99.99% uptime. The significantly extra money for high availability is a waste of money.
Anyway I don't know everything about your plans but the kind of things you mention are already free functionality, or not necesarry like high availability hosting. There isn't much difference between 99.99% and 100%. Again I've had 100% from the start and can host for free if you like.
Hello again Steve,
The final goal is to run an operation that we know for certain is up 100% of the time, that we can evolve by adding new features easily (i.e. 10 years ago, we wouldn't have been penalized by google for not having mobile versions) and -in general- stop depending on external parties to implement and fix things.
A home-grown web engine is the answer. The problem being -as usual- me having this as a hobby and not as a part-time job which means the only time left is at night (under an "if and when possible" basis); but (and this is where chance comes in) this year we may get enough sponsorship for me to devote daytime hours steadily.
The new engine is a long-term project. It's OK if we end-up with a basic web engine for us to "plug" (or unify) our Bet* sites into a single database this year. That's the starting point.
WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES!
The time to see what was achieved in 2016 is Dec. 31; the year is still young :cheer:
1. exactly how much sponsorship do you need for development for everything you want?
2. exactly how much do you need for ongoing costs?
3. exactly which web host is providing the more affordable high availability hosting?
4. will sponsors later be reinbursed by the casino ads you run?
I've been developing all kinds of software and projects for decades. Again the way you propose going about it is inefficient and will cost sponsors much more than what's needed, for what should be a free forum that costs you $1 per month and virtually no time to run. But let me know details and maybe ill fully sponsor it, without any obligation, or perhaps we can use my programmers and i can assure it will be done more efficiently.
Steve, hold your horses! I'm not talking about asking members for sponsorship but getting sponsorship from the casino ads themselves and maybe also from selling a bit on the BetSoftware.cc site.
No need to worry about our costs. This is just a "hobby site" at this time.
We haven't run a donation/fund-raiser since quite some time around here. At least measured in "internet time" :D
Cheers & many thanks for caring!
:nod: :thumbsup: