Quote from: alrelax on June 24, 2017, 05:09:46 PM
Stephen, so you are claiming those 3 shoes were made up by me and they are fake and conceived to discredit your expert research and system, is that correct???

I am making my mind up based on PMs, and emails, and what I see in those results. three shoes, all bad for my strategy. No good shoes included. Readers will make up their own minds. Let them check what has been written. I don't delete my posts, but others do. I don't know why they do.

I lost all respect for you and tried to maintain a neutral position.  You accused me of being a lair.  You suck, plain and simple. 

Quote from: alrelax on June 24, 2017, 05:12:37 PM
Please answer this.

I have answered this. PMs and emails from members, my checks of the results, 103 B/P runs 3 or more, 22 zz runs based on my strategy. 3.6 more B/P runs 81x more... order of results, strange all very strange, deleted posts......

Quote from: alrelax on June 24, 2017, 05:15:34 PM
I lost all respect for you and tried to maintain a neutral position.  You accused me of being a lair.  You suck, plain and simple.

So you posted three shoes that slaughter my strategy. Didn't you stop to think, hang on, why am I only posting three shoes, all bad, why can't I post more shoes that show wins! All losers? The structure of the results are totally against my strategy. If the shoe results are true, then this has to be utter sheer coincidence. But the fact that you had posted them, only three shoes, you really should explain yourself. It is not for me to say 100% that you faked them. It is for you to tell the truth. If they are not fake then why just three and all bad. Did it not cross your mind that you would not be challenged on this?

Why don't you take photos of full board  shoe results when you are at casinos rather than doing what you did? Then we can see the board and write down the results to use.

Quote from: Stephen Tabone on June 24, 2017, 05:23:16 PM
So you posted three shoes that slaughter my strategy. Didn't you stop to think, hang on, why am I only posting three shoes, all bad, why can't I post more shoes that show wins! All losers? The structure of the results are totally against my strategy. If the shoe results are true, then this has to be utter sheer coincidence. But the fact that you had posted them, only three shoes, you really should explain yourself. It is not for me to say 100% that you faked them. It is for you to tell the truth. If they are not fake then why just three and all bad. Did it not cross your mind that you would not be challenged on this?

I played the other night, those are from that night, AD wanted them, I played I posted them.  I just posted one and very skeptical to post more but i did it for the member PPKKINT in baccarat thread and my triggers--took the time to explain him, it was a great shoe for me.  Some luck at the end, I completed tow 1-3-2-6 progression on 3 and 4 and cut.  I have plenty of other shoes posted either in my blog or baccarat room, go look.  I have some at home, (at office now) i usually do not keep them or even take the cards from the casinos.  A few people were asking for live shoes that is why i posted those.  I honestly do not know your system more than win 3 and stop and stop loss of 6.  I don't subscribe to a mechanical system, i come at a bac shoe from all directions, strong, weak, chop, cut, etc.  Not one way. 

Quote from: Stephen Tabone on June 24, 2017, 05:26:00 PM
Why don't you take photos of full board  shoe results when you are at casinos rather than doing what you did? Then we can see the board and write down the results to use.

I did with the one I won nearly $30k along with a card I used.  It was on this board.  They will not allow photos and i had to really pull strings to take that.  In Vegas and some places, some casinos do not mind and long as you are not photographing people openly.  But most will not allow you to, they get highly upset Stephen and i am dead on serious.  In fact to take the picture of the board the floor manager had to call security and the GM, they said yes, but just for that one shoe.  The frown on it and will not allow it. Maybe your casinos say okay, not many over here will. 

There is one i posted from the casino when it finished.  About a week ago??  Run that.  It was strong.  If you have not seen strong and repeatedly strong and then weak and then a combination of the two in every way shape and form, you have not played thousands of shoes, sorry.  IMO.


http://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/20k-plus-shoe-just-now!!/

Quote from: alrelax on June 24, 2017, 05:15:34 PM
I lost all respect for you and tried to maintain a neutral position.  You accused me of being a lair.  You suck, plain and simple.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_lady_doth_protest_too_much,_methinks

Here are a couple I had posted from 6-11.

One of you problems is you do not go on and read other peoples threads and stuff. 

What problems are you going to find with these, you joined the board here i think on the 8th, and you and i were exchanging friendly pm's a emails, I did not have any problem with you when you joined, the only problem i have is you called me a lair and submitting fake score cards to discredit you.  I have no reason, none, to discredit you.  That is what the problem is and that will never go away. You sided with seemly people on the board here that claim there are not even ties in my 3 shoes, the 3 shoes that are in question!!!!!  Seriously, screw me--no ties because AD excluded the ties, don't you have the original scans that AD used???

Maybe these don't match up to your system, IDK???  But they are real shoes form a live casino.

http://betselection.cc/alrelax's-blog/6-11-live-shoes/

Here are three more shoes i did not delete yet from 6-10.

http://betselection.cc/alrelax's-blog/3-live-shoes-6-10-17/

Stephen,

For future reference (I'm thinking about the 3rd edition of your book), are the Wizard of Odds' shoes acceptable to you for testing purposes?

https://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/1000-baccarat-shoes-8-deck.txt

Quote from: Stephen Tabone on June 24, 2017, 03:00:41 PM
I've received the following from a member via email:

"1. How many decks in these three shoes? the results are, 74, 74, 73 these can't be 6 deck, too many and no ties.

. Also note too how there are few runs of Bank and or Player on all thee shoes and how there are no long runs of either Bank or Player.

Also note how the structure of each shoe are similar to each other as if someone had sat down and written them! Please post this."

Quote from: Mike on June 24, 2017, 05:47:37 PM
Stephen,

For future reference (I'm thinking about the 3rd edition of your book), are the Wizard of Odds' shoes acceptable to you for testing purposes?

https://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/1000-baccarat-shoes-8-deck.txt

Hi, Mike, I'm not going to include any computer generated shoe results in future publications. Just going  advise readers to obtain real live dealer casino shoe results. This is the best way forward.

Despite the three bad shoes posted. I have gone through and applied my strategy, and here are the results:

(Note: Not every result is bet on as in the rules of my strategy)

Shoe one: 1-,2-,3- but if kept playing as follows, 2-, 1-, break even (BE), 1+, BE, 1+, BE, 1-, BE, 1-, 2-, 1-, BE, 1+, 2+, 3+ up to result number 32 on 1st shoe. / now to the end of the shoe: 4+, 3+, 2+, 1+, BE, 1-, BE, 1-, BE, 1+, 2+, 1+,BE, 1+, 2+, 1+, 2+, 3+, 2+, 1+ (max + is 3+ about half way and again towards the end, so if kept playing from start would have got out half way point 3+

Shoe two: 1-, 2-, 1-, 2-, 3-, 2-, 1-, BE, 1+, BE, 1+, BE, 1+, BE, 1-, BE, 1-, 2-, 3-, 2-, 1-, 2-, 1-, 2-, 3-, 2-, 1-, 2-, 1-, 2-, 3-, 2-, 3-, up to result number 51 / now to the end of the shoe: 4-, 3-, 4-, 5-, 6-, 7-, 8- By half way you'd have to stop. Half way on this show would be approx 1-

Shoe number three: 1+, BE, 1-, 2-, 1-, 2-, 1-, BE, 1-, BE, 1-, 2-, 1-, 2-, 1- 2-, 3-, 4-, 3-, 4-, 5-, 6-, 5-, 4-, 5-, 4-, 3-, 2-, 1-, 2-, 1-, BE, 1-, BE, 1+, 2+, 3+, 2+, 3+, 4+ end of shoe. / either you would have took the hit 3- or if carried on you would have ended up 4+

Proof if anything that despite these bad shoes my strategy holds its own and therefore is the most powerful strategy ever! (Save that when 3.0 if published it will rock the casinos, shuttering the myth that the house always wins. This was designed to scare bettors from winning and to make them lose their minds and make bad decisions)

To prove the strength of my strategy for those of you that use Martingale, you will see from the above that the average loses in a row is 2 to 3 therefore if you were to use Martingale trying say up to 4x times max, 1/2/4/8 using my strategy check yourselves to see how much you'd me winning on these three bad shoes. And these are the bad shoes! What if you were playing on the good and great shoes?

What are you waiting for!
What more proof do you need? 


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