I have to continue this thread here as XXVV has made many accusations against me and despite his offer of a right to reply thread in " What motivates XXVV " he again deletes my posts and locks the thread so that all the readers only see his version of events. Totally undemocratic and dictorial. What is it you have to hide XXVV ?
I will reproduce below the exact post he deleted on his " What motivates XXVV " thread below:-
" Hello.
I would be more than happy to move on once a few things are cleared up.
I am not negative towards your efforts on producing a market report just your effort to solicit funds in the manner that you did.
Re. multi directional trading , here is my original reply before you conveniently deleted it :-
" What on earth is this !!! There is no such thing. You either go long a currency or short it,traders have done that for years. What other direction is there to trade !!! "
So stop trying to belittle me for exposing your amateur attempt at glorified marketing. So again you are twisting things and trying to mislead the readers as to my trading knowledge. Your last ( re-edited ) attempt at trying to explain multi directional trading was laughable, plus you talk about me not making defamatory statements yet this is exactly what you have done when you wrote above :-
" you had no comprehension of the term 'multi directional trading "
You expose yourself XXVV more and more for the person that you are with each and every post you make.
I am not being defensive at all just clearing up a few things. I do not wish to change my descriptions of your writings as " twisting things " and " misleading readers " as you have proved that yet again in your last post to me.
So, now that I have corrected what I needed to , I am now prepared to move on as you seem to be very keen to do this.
So unless you have more to say on the matter it's goodbye. "
This is the EXACT post , not an edited or re-edited version that XXVV seems to constantly do. I have proved several times that you do indeed twist things and mislead readers,your closing post on the afore mentioned thread another such example :-
" who do not listen or comprehend material that is out of their sphere of experience "
" although a self described market trader you had no comprehension of the term 'multi directional trading' " ( from your first reply in the thread )
I had already provided indicative information as to my considerable trading experience, these are DEFAMATORY statements.
" KLW just does not get it. I made no charge for the direct links and introduction to/from my private investment colleagues. "
The whole point is YOU TRIED TO CHARGE $1000 originally and only bactracked several times to free after being challenged repeatedly by myself. Of course you again conveniently deleted these posts as well as repeatedly editing yours to improve your version !!!
" Instead I have received a stream of abuse and defamatory comments from GG and KLW which astonishes me."
Please show me one abusive remark or defamatory comment I have made about you ? Every comment I have made I can back up with evidence that it is true. I have evidence of your editing and re-editing and re re-editing of your posts, I have copies of my deleted posts especially where I provide indicative information as to my trading experience and still you belittle my trading knowledge with defamatory statements.
You can take any " firm action " you want, I have done nothing wrong except maybe expose your , let's say your character flaws to be polite and save some readers here $1000.
There are plenty of successful investment vehicles available on the web and they don't want a $1000 introductory fee. Just Google " list of top 10 fund managers " or similar , there is plenty of information available quite quickly , none of this cloak and dagger introduction needed ( yes you deleted that post as well,the one where I asked for past performance details etc. )
So stop making defamatory remarks about me , it is clear from my postings at Trade2win that I have considerable trading experience.
That others may think negatively of you is down to you and the way you have conducted yourself on public forums. We are all not stupid.
Victor - I don't know how long this self moderation is going to continue. But at least is there. Time stamp that can be added to the posts to say last modified. I had seen that in a number of posts where xxvv has edited. If it is to change views it is alright. But if it is to claim 1000$ first and then edit the post and say I have never asked for money that is a very wrong community behaviour. In fact I have seen such a note in the past.
Oh for heaven's sake what is wrong with you people? Can you not read? How many times do I have to state....
Once forum members contacted me and they explained and demonstrated their genuine interest, no fee was required!
How many times do I have to state this. No payment was made. This was a 'filter' to prevent time wasters.
Your comments which disregard my repeated and detailed explanations of a complex subject are just coming across as trouble making and petty. My intention in all of my work is to assist others genuinely and on lots of levels. Do you not get this?
Quote from: klw on September 20, 2015, 11:24:10 AM
I have to continue this thread here as XXVV has made many accusations against me and despite his offer of a right to reply thread in " What motivates XXVV " he again deletes my posts and locks the thread so that all the readers only see his version of events. Totally undemocratic and dictorial. What is it you have to hide XXVV ?
I will reproduce below the exact post he deleted on his " What motivates XXVV " thread below:-
" Hello.
I would be more than happy to move on once a few things are cleared up.
I am not negative towards your efforts on producing a market report just your effort to solicit funds in the manner that you did.
Re. multi directional trading , here is my original reply before you conveniently deleted it :-
" What on earth is this !!! There is no such thing. You either go long a currency or short it,traders have done that for years. What other direction is there to trade !!! "
So stop trying to belittle me for exposing your amateur attempt at glorified marketing. So again you are twisting things and trying to mislead the readers as to my trading knowledge. Your last ( re-edited ) attempt at trying to explain multi directional trading was laughable, plus you talk about me not making defamatory statements yet this is exactly what you have done when you wrote above :-
" you had no comprehension of the term 'multi directional trading "
You expose yourself XXVV more and more for the person that you are with each and every post you make.
I am not being defensive at all just clearing up a few things. I do not wish to change my descriptions of your writings as " twisting things " and " misleading readers " as you have proved that yet again in your last post to me.
So, now that I have corrected what I needed to , I am now prepared to move on as you seem to be very keen to do this.
So unless you have more to say on the matter it's goodbye. "
This is the EXACT post , not an edited or re-edited version that XXVV seems to constantly do. I have proved several times that you do indeed twist things and mislead readers,your closing post on the afore mentioned thread another such example :-
" who do not listen or comprehend material that is out of their sphere of experience "
" although a self described market trader you had no comprehension of the term 'multi directional trading' " ( from your first reply in the thread )
I had already provided indicative information as to my considerable trading experience, these are DEFAMATORY statements.
" KLW just does not get it. I made no charge for the direct links and introduction to/from my private investment colleagues. "
The whole point is YOU TRIED TO CHARGE $1000 originally and only bactracked several times to free after being challenged repeatedly by myself. Of course you again conveniently deleted these posts as well as repeatedly editing yours to improve your version !!!
" Instead I have received a stream of abuse and defamatory comments from GG and KLW which astonishes me."
Please show me one abusive remark or defamatory comment I have made about you ? Every comment I have made I can back up with evidence that it is true. I have evidence of your editing and re-editing and re re-editing of your posts, I have copies of my deleted posts especially where I provide indicative information as to my trading experience and still you belittle my trading knowledge with defamatory statements.
You can take any " firm action " you want, I have done nothing wrong except maybe expose your , let's say your character flaws to be polite and save some readers here $1000.
There are plenty of successful investment vehicles available on the web and they don't want a $1000 introductory fee. Just Google " list of top 10 fund managers " or similar , there is plenty of information available quite quickly , none of this cloak and dagger introduction needed ( yes you deleted that post as well,the one where I asked for past performance details etc. )
So stop making defamatory remarks about me , it is clear from my postings at Trade2win that I have considerable trading experience.
That others may think negatively of you is down to you and the way you have conducted yourself on public forums. We are all not stupid.
Again I will note here the arguments 'ad hominem'. Why this personal attack?
This matter must be resolved and I will seek Moderation and Administration advice.
Quote from: XXVV on September 20, 2015, 08:00:52 PM
Oh for heaven's sake what is wrong with you people? Can you not read? How many times do I have to state....
Once forum members contacted me and they explained and demonstrated their genuine interest, no fee was required!
How many times do I have to state this. No payment was made. This was a 'filter' to prevent time wasters.
Your comments which disregard my repeated and detailed explanations of a complex subject are just coming across as trouble making and petty. My intention in all of my work is to assist others genuinely and on lots of levels. Do you not get this?
No I don't actually because that's not how it unfolded. You wanted $1000 for contact details for your special investment. I challenged this a number of times,it went down to a reduced price, then free to trusted forum members , then free to all. It's not trouble making it's ensuring the true version stays in print , not your back tracking , re-edited numerous times version which you then deleted the whole thread. Very slippery !
" Again I will note here the arguments 'ad hominem'. Why this personal attack?
This matter must be resolved and I will seek Moderation and Administration advice. "
Again, this is not a personal attack just defensive postings against your defamatory remarks and ensuring the true version remains in print,because as usual you modified posts to suit your own end and deleted mine.This is why I started this thread out of your moderation reach. I too will be contacting Victor regarding your defamatory remarks and your attempts to belittle me.
I'd like to know why XXVV places so much importance to and reacts so strongly when his nickname's reputation is challenged?
It's not like his career life and private business dealings are affected in any possible way, it's just his silly nickname within an obscure and anonymous forum that is ever questioned.
I've actually given this some thought and no matter how I evaluate it, I believe the final answer is an over-inflated sense of self, known as Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Historically, there are a lot traits to support this diagnosis within the writings and behaviour of XXVV.
It's either that, or it's to vigorously defend and protect an investment of some sort within the forum.
Both?...who knows.
Actually, these are rhetorical questions... I'm just putting it out there.
I shouldn't need to, but given my diagnosis I will add a disclaimer.
Disclaimer:
We all have silly nicknames.
Quote from: klw on September 20, 2015, 10:58:27 PM
" Again I will note here the arguments 'ad hominem'. Why this personal attack?
This matter must be resolved and I will seek Moderation and Administration advice. "
Again, this is not a personal attack just defensive postings against your defamatory remarks and ensuring the true version remains in print,because as usual you modified posts to suit your own end and deleted mine.This is why I started this thread out of your moderation reach. I too will be contacting Victor regarding your defamatory remarks and your attempts to belittle me.
KLW this is absolutely ludicrous. I frequently modify and edit all my material in order to improve communication or clarity of an idea. Yes at times I change my mind or improve my approach, in particular with roulette.
In this issue we are discussing a level of professional investment which it has taken me many years to find and then access as a member which has cost me a considerable sum of course.
I simply have wanted to provide access to this serious level of work but ensure no time wasters were encouraged. This is work at a level very different from the mainstream because of the private managed accounts involved and the necessity to not advertise or promote for ethical and legal reasons.
I have never 'back tracked' other than to suggest that quite openly M4 would be a good starting point. Membership for them can be on a simple monthly retainer and their work is quite public. However I have other connections which are far more elite level - the best way to put it although of course I am not an elitist, but discretion and privacy in the financial and banking world is necessary. My personal work is to advocate and encourage much more personal financial freedom which is why Ronnie Moas is a Facebook friend. As one of the top financial analysts in the US his views are iconoclastic.
The top level investment work is light years away from a casino scale speculation, but I felt there might be a few within the 1200 membership here who might be interested, so I wrote about this subject on the forum here.
I found three enquiries in particular, and in every example when the enquiry explained themselves I recognised they were serious investors and in a couple of cases were earlier known to me anyway.
At no time did I request or require money from these parties. Do you understand this? How clearer can I state this? In my general public invite I suggested an amount which deliberately would deter the frivolous or time waster. Can you appreciate this principle of filtering and screening?
At no time have I made a defamatory remark regarding yourself. However I wondered at your incomprehension of the generic term which is used in the NY managed trading account terminology which is 'multi directional trading'. Again I explain by showing you that most advocates for US equity investment preach a 'buy and hold' mantra which is fine for bull markets but in a 6 year sliding bear market is disastrous. We are NOT talking forex trading here. Multi directional traders can handle and benefit in rising, falling and choppy markets. It does not mean they always have winning trades but they have more winners than losers and the net difference enables consistent MONTHLY ( not daily) gains.
I have patiently explained my intentions, my motivation and my actions.
I hope this brings clarification. This discussion must be brought to an end now.
Quote from: greenguy on September 20, 2015, 11:46:05 PM
I'd like to know why XXVV places so much importance to and reacts so strongly when his nickname's reputation is challenged?
It's not like his career life and private business dealings are affected in any possible way, it's just his silly nickname within an obscure and anonymous forum that is ever questioned.
I've actually given this some thought and no matter how I evaluate it, I believe the final answer is an over-inflated sense of self, known as Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Historically, there are a lot traits to support this diagnosis within the writings and behaviour of XXVV.
It's either that, or it's to vigorously defend and protect an investment of some sort within the forum.
Both?...who knows.
Actually, these are rhetorical questions... I'm just putting it out there.
I shouldn't need to, but given my diagnosis I will add a disclaimer.
Disclaimer:
We all have silly nicknames.
Oy Vey
Give me a break!
What am I doing writing in this forum on serious investment or professional level play?
The three posters GG, KLW and MM have certainly ruined my enjoyment here after a year of really fun work and research.
Consider all my threads locked for some time ahead. I am taking a break and concentrating on matters that really assist others.
" However I wondered at your incomprehension of the generic term which is used in the NY managed trading account terminology which is 'multi directional trading'. "
Again you make a defamatory remark ( above ) !
From Google ---- Defamatory -- (of remarks, writing, etc.) damaging the good reputation of someone; slanderous or libellous.
I have provided to you previously indicitive evidence of my trading experience, I know just about every trading term there is to know from my 20 years of experience and for the last time , multi directional trading doesn't exist. You buy or sell. That's it ! Your attempt at describing markets going up , down or choppy is just that , describing types of markets, it is not multi directional trading. Do you not get this ! I have traded all asset classes in my 20 years not just Forex and they all require the same method of entry, a buy or a sell. There is no other type. Your scrambled attempt at backtracking to explain this is pathetic.
You keep using buy and hold mantra statement as some type of weapon to bolster your investment vehicle , buy and hold rapidly declined after the tech. bubble burst in early 2000 , day trading and short term swing trading has been the norm since then, you are only 15 years out of date using that angle as a plus for your scheme. You really are out of your depth here XXVV , no wonder you don't want
to continue these threads.
Your behaviour in this has been disgraceful. On being repeatedly challenged by me, you deleted threads , locked threads, deleted my posts ( and others ) and edited your own posts countless times in order to backtrack, make defamatory comments against me, belittle me and scramble to improve your own meanings/positions. That is not the behaviour of someone with nothing to hide.
Now that I have at least some posting history on this matter I am done, especially with you XXVV.
At least my challenges to XXVV may have saved some members here $1000, that must count for something in all of this.
It is absolutely worthless attempting to communicate with you KLW. Your closing remark ' at least my challenges to XXVV may have saved some members here $1000...'. What utter self deluded rubbish. You have done nothing constructive, and have illustrated your stubborn ignorance in an area of investment about which you have not the access or resources evidently. Again I re-iterate 'no charge was/ has been made for information I provided' although it may well have saved someone years of searching and research in due diligence and indeed have considerable value to a qualified applicant. I know had I myself been offered such a link say 5 years ago I would have been delighted. Recall I write because I was defrauded by CEH. And my goal ever since has been to try to right those wrongs, and demonstrate what is possible with true and genuine knowledge.
Further KLW you manifest the same old circular defensive argumentative flaw of doing exactly yourself for what you claim of the other party.
No more wasted energy on you or this nonsense/ side show you have promoted - it is already dust under the rug.
I have taken further advice on my position ( and been refreshed) and will continue in my current mode as the market context over the coming months will be fascinating and a source for much discussion. My 'disgraceful' behaviour definition by you is worth framing - thanks for that. You certainly have been wound up tighter than a classic alarm clock. Look forward to your thunderous response and if and when they are deleted by me ( for legitimate cause) you can re-post elsewhere and see if you can widen your scope for complaint until you get bored. Meanwhile I will be moving on and covering fresh territory. Cheers.
There are good reports from two areas of interest to me - roulette where I will be reporting on a the fantastic results of analysis of 36 million spins by a trusted colleague - and the market reaction in bio-techs after the action of a CEO who comes across as a graduate hedge fund manager with little awareness that actions ( in this case words) have consequences. Please refer to the appropriate threads.
Quote from: Missmusibat on September 20, 2015, 07:17:19 PM
Victor - I don't know how long this self moderation is going to continue. But at least is there. Time stamp that can be added to the posts to say last modified. I had seen that in a number of posts where xxvv has edited. If it is to change views it is alright. But if it is to claim 1000$ first and then edit the post and say I have never asked for money that is a very wrong community behaviour. In fact I have seen such a note in the past.
Once again MM you have got it completely wrong. You are looking for trouble and the tunnel vision $1000 is the headlight that is blinding you bunnies. I change and edit all my posts frequently which seems to disconcert some people but sometimes I try to improve clarity of meaning, or grammar, or yes even sometimes I change my mind. Yes I even delete my own posts at times. In fact I will be deleting a whole bundle really soon!
From the very outset I used the mention of $20,000 plus as required funds and $1000 as access for the material links that are valuable. Weirdly you have not referred to the larger sum or perhaps you actually understand that bit. Unfortunately you just cannot seem to get it that an 'introduction' fee is a way of screening out and filtering time wasting tyre -kickers. We have reached an impasse here.
I have told you the facts and you do not believe me.
There is no point in you persisting with your fixed and negatively biased view.
It is already dust and under the rug and we are moving on.
Do you know how many words I have utilised in my writing on this forum. You do know I have posted 1100 threads and on average since joining one post on average per day in the three years on this particular forum.
How many posts have you made (24) and how have you contributed to the sum of knowledge on this Forum? I am not trying to embarrass you or make you feel awkward but what I am saying is that if you wrote more, took more risks, upset a few more people, ( because you cannot please everyone all the time), then you would find the need to edit, to filter, to correct and to self moderate is essential. Please reflect upon this principle.
Hello.
Well I was going to leave it but you don't seem to want to do this yourself. I take it I am one of the " bunnies " that you refer to in your last post ? I notice your post ( #10 ) has been edited , considering you have made 1104 posts you don't seem to be very good at it,most of your posts get edited , a tip , type to notepad then copy and paste it after scrutinising it , unless of course you have rage blindness then nothing will help. I get mine right first time every time doing it this way with a cool clear head, none of my posts have been edited,this can be confirmed.
I don't have time unfortunately for any more however your willingness to " help " others has given me idea. So will do when I have more time.
Exciting times lay ahead.
Quote from: klw on September 22, 2015, 06:19:21 PM
Hello.
Well I was going to leave it but you don't seem to want to do this yourself. I take it I am one of the " bunnies " that you refer to in your last post ? I notice your post ( #10 ) has been edited , considering you have made 1104 posts you don't seem to be very good at it,most of your posts get edited , a tip , type to notepad then copy and paste it after scrutinising it , unless of course you have rage blindness then nothing will help. I get mine right first time every time doing it this way with a cool clear head, none of my posts have been edited,this can be confirmed.
I don't have time unfortunately for any more however your willingness to " help " others has given me idea. So will do when I have more time.
Exciting times lay ahead.
My reply was directed to MM not you as that writer was still going on about 'edits'. I would be delighted to move on as clearly there is an impasse. However your comments here as always are most insightful as to your personality. Why is there a problem in editing or improving a post? I like change, speed and spontaneity, and because of practice I write rapidly to help the flow of creative thought. We all have different styles and mannerisms, and that is delight of artistic expression. There is no one way to do things. I take the view that if one can express an idea in 100 words that is much better than 10.
However being really constructive here, and as you wish to 'help', as you have considerable market experience, why do you not contribute a post/ update/ review / comment on weekly action in the markets from your perspective. Then you can do something proactive and constructive instead of what most people do here which is reactive.
It is all about pattern recognition - markets or roulette, and the bewildered participants in the US Markets are starting to become very scratchy/ itchy as it becomes clearer a bear market approaches. Do they buy in this morning after another loss day? Curious that a tipping point trigger comes out of left field and of all things is VW, with implications that all auto manufacturers are cheats and the extraordinary confessional by the CEO of VW was astonishing, with criminal charges to follow.
Perhaps you might like to comment or note currency directions or ideas, suggestions and strategies or goals.
Let me throw one in here to get the ball rolling.
The Vietnamese Dong.
Hello.
You wrote :-
" Why is there a problem in editing or improving a post? "
Really ! Maybe because a change of a word , sentence
, deletion of a part of the post or whole post maybe renders the reply inappropriate or out of context to the original posting or as in your case changes the meaning totally from the original.
I prefer 10 words to 100 words and so do others going by the amount of times the word " waffle " has been expressed but each to his own.
Why on earth would I want to comment/review on the markets. These are done by the theory boys and girls,they usually can't trade so fall back onto teaching and market commentary, if they were any good they would be trading and these are the people you subscribe to.I am not a fundamental trader, I care not about market news other than the time it is released.
Same with the Dong,I have no opinion on it, I don't follow it and don't or never have traded it,it is an illiquid market , one for the locals and crazy ride junkies. The spread is ridiculous and it represents a fraction of 1 percent of the forex market,why trade it when there are much better pairs to trade.
You are right when you say that pattern recognition plays a part , but it is not " all about pattern recognition " , did you know that only 1 third of head and shoulder patterns come to a successful conclusion,it is more than just patterns.
As regards giving " help " I was too quick off the mark with that,I am busy planning a long haul holiday and that takes priority at the moment , it will have to wait.
Just briefly gone through the marketing hype for M4 insider,please don't tell me that this is your secret investment link you wanted to sell ? Nine months the example fund has been going , no wonder you didn't want me to know about it and you paid $67 for that stuff ?
Quote from: klw on September 23, 2015, 08:48:29 PM
Hello.
You wrote :-
" Why is there a problem in editing or improving a post? "
Really ! Maybe because a change of a word , sentence
, deletion of a part of the post or whole post maybe renders the reply inappropriate or out of context to the original posting or as in your case changes the meaning totally from the original.
I prefer 10 words to 100 words and so do others going by the amount of times the word " waffle " has been expressed but each to his own.
Why on earth would I want to comment/review on the markets. These are done by the theory boys and girls,they usually can't trade so fall back onto teaching and market commentary, if they were any good they would be trading and these are the people you subscribe to.I am not a fundamental trader, I care not about market news other than the time it is released.
Same with the Dong,I have no opinion on it, I don't follow it and don't or never have traded it,it is an illiquid market , one for the locals and crazy ride junkies. The spread is ridiculous and it represents a fraction of 1 percent of the forex market,why trade it when there are much better pairs to trade.
You are right when you say that pattern recognition plays a part , but it is not " all about pattern recognition " , did you know that only 1 third of head and shoulder patterns come to a successful conclusion,it is more than just patterns.
As regards giving " help " I was too quick off the mark with that,I am busy planning a long haul holiday and that takes priority at the moment , it will have to wait.
Just briefly gone through the marketing hype for M4 insider,please don't tell me that this is your secret investment link you wanted to sell ? Nine months the example fund has been going , no wonder you didn't want me to know about it and you paid $67 for that stuff ?
Delightful to get at least a partially sensible response to my earlier generous invitation.
We are making progress.
I hope you enjoy your long haul holiday. Airline stocks are rising and Air NZ is one of the very best, well deserved. Qantas next I think. Some prefer Asian or Arabic airlines but not me. I used to fly first class on Air Nuigini - now that was cool.
Back to your note yes and the partly pattern recognition is of course where you are quite correct. Nothing is black and white is it?
You are quick to deride M4 based on a superficial observation but I am sure you would recognize if you were a full member that it is a virtual wealth vault and sure there are some trinkets for all sorts, and also some pearls, but of the many hundred variations they offer there is but one that has special value. That is where I was trying to assist others to see.
M4 has a format which is multi -partitioned but also somewhat hierarchical so that for new members material is accessible after, 30. 60, 90 days and so on in order to prevent a novice from racing ahead too fast ( and possibly getting into trouble) because there is such an array of information and linkages within. They are a friendly and very down to earth organisation, US based. I have known the team for several years and have found their communication excellent. There is such a wide range of interest and material on board ( all vetted by the team) that the selections and choices may take some time to work through.
The membership is world wide and quite substantial with access cost very small. Your sneering response to their introductory website is just silly and instead for very small outlay a reader can find examples of all levels of investment activity but of course I acknowledge it is material not for everyone. My personal view is that time spent picking through their offerings for a month trial for example would be worthwhile. No more need be said.
Again, let me state there was no charge for access to M4 and other material - the real answer was dependent on who replied. My intention was to put most off, and all those that wrote gave a little information to me and I provided all details to them free. There we go. Simple. Let me put it another way. No one who wrote to me was refused access to the information I provided, ie no one was asked for money! One day it is my hope you may finally get this although it really doesn't bother me, or anyone else actually except you , GG and MM, and as I say it is an impasse so why continue to mention it.
Now, regarding currencies as noted, I do not trade but hold these, and accumulate.
Sincerely, have a great holiday.
XXVV
Hello all -- I reproduce a post below from XXVV's thread the " Power of Roulette "
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Thanks Tomla.
I will try to provide a few little worthwhile bits of information that catch my eye and which may add to the Forum Members' experience and knowledge.
End of week close on DJI was lukewarm and recall August is always a time of holiday and lower volumes in Europe and USA. But there were again good interviews on CNBC, with in a few cases aggressive or even downright rude (not to a New Yorker) questions. The oil price and oil stocks bounced up a little reflecting oversold conditions and opportunities.
I have a Facebook colleague Ronnie Moas who really is the bete noir of CNBC and other so called expert media business channels such as CNN. He cuts through it all like a hot knife through butter and actually blacklists stocks like Apple, Amazon and Starbucks for their appalling treatment of staff and exploitation of offshore labour in some situations with their massive cash reserves, fat cat principals and minimum staff wages and conditions, or worse for Amazon. I personally boycott all these products as with several others Ronnie mentions.
Ronnie Moas with his winning ( top #1) research company StandPoint Research **and portfolio strategy has a manner being interviewed by the amateurs with a face intense and sometimes angry, and a black cloud over his head; thunder and lightning bolts flashing and crashing.
Look him up. ** the SR website is fascinating with many philanthropic specific applications
Also here is a thought for you. Research my friends M4insider.com or M4research.com.
If you want to join ( it is inexpensive and can be a monthly sub)) through the website you will be able to access from several pathways - plans, programs, methods that can suit your personal risk exposure choice with a clear statement of costs, anticipated returns, and reviews. I am a platinum level member and through M4 have found highly valued further treasure.
They have a wealth chest of investment and research constantly being reviewed and added. The latest today is a managed account futures program access and all contact details. The team at M4 are genuine, fresh and very helpful. Their site used to be called the Wealth Vault.
This is one of my two private recent recommendations . The other one remains confidential.
One quality from this weeks Dow Jones trading has been 'volatility' to which the Traders assign a value index. Even today in a narrow trading range the volatility was still expressed and I am advised this factor quotient has been at a level not seen since 1987 with the crash. Make of this what you will but I would sincerely caution 'buy and hold' approach because there will be an enormous crash soon. Maybe its the HFT, and Machine v Machine. However I know it. So take care and do your research. As with roulette, if unsure do nothing and wait for the proven signals.
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Now please read the posts in this link,especially the ones where " scam " , " fraud " , " liar " , " cyber scammers " and " The FED " are mentioned. I promise it won't take long.
http://www.realscam.com/f16/message-ponzi-pimp-brad-weiman-scammer-1086/
Interesting right ?
Now here is he same guy that owned The Wealth Vault admitting he's the co-founder of M4Research.
His name is Wajnman by the way.
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/m4research
Now you will see a graph showing excellent results and
at face value would interest anybody BUT to explain
how he is trading to get those results goes like this.
He is using a grid ea , EA is an expert advisor or to
you roulette guys a bot. A very cheap and basic level
entry bot written in MQSL for the Meta Trader a
beginner level trading platform. MQSL is a scripting
language only and is notoriously unstable and can be
manipulated by the broker causing you potentially huge
losses unless you pick the right broker or the right
programmer.
Grid EA's work similar to a Martingale in roulette.The
market goes up and the bot places orders to short the
market at different price levels as it rises at
INCREASING stake sizes , so when it does turn, a
profit can be made and the market often ranges and so
lots of little profits, BUT what happens when the
market keeps rising ? Yes you guessed it, massive
losses and account wipe out and losses on a highly
leveraged account could mean bankruptcy !!! This is
what XXVV is constantly pushing to you forum guys in
his many posts. M4Insider and M4Research is littered
in all his posts along with others which I have yet to
investigate due to time restrictions.
Another thunderous post XXVV ?
So what exactly is your interest and connection to M4
/ The Vault XXVV ?
There seem to be numerous posts about you wanting to "
help " forum members which involves introduction
through yourself, at least 1 was for money. Why don't
you name them so that we can have a look at those as
well ?
Thanks for your counter-informative posts klw, you are a good man. :thumbsup:
Interesting.
KLW you have spent a lot of time in trying to dig up something that is wrong or unethical.
Your motivation. If it is to protect the quality and integrity of this Forum then good work, and I respect that principle.
I am well aware of the earlier publicity regarding wealth vault and the early problems they had. That was part of my due diligence conducted several years ago before I decided to join with them on a toe in the water approach. You may be amused but I suspect not that with some irony in my own fraud research with regard to CEH and the 'Swiss Scammers' and their blatant use of the Brighton branch of HSBC, I had come across 'Wealth Vault' as one of the websites that indirectly the scammers had contact with, as well as a couple of other links such as web host and some financial blogs that were US and Canadian based. In fact I joined a Canadian property group that was formed by a retired policeman in Canada as they had a much more likely link to CEH et al.
Recall the Swiss scam must have taken in several million USD and I understand German roulette enthusiasts were particularly hard hit after I researched the traffic and origins on the original website used for the scam ( while it was still in operation).
My research indicated at that time ( over 3 years ago) that the scammers distributed their funds in various financial outlets and thus had used the Wealth Vault as a source of information at one time in order to find outlets for investment, just as all other customers do.
HSBC is well known to have acted as a no questions asked bank for use by drug cartels as reported by Max Keiser on RT.com and it astonishes me how brazen were these acts and of course they were fined accordingly.
The two founders of Wealth Vault over the years have vastly improved their website and quality of information content.
Quite openly and directly Brad W. has commented on past bad publicity and in my opinion he and his team have moved on and very professionally have upgraded their information source to M4 and in the past 6 months have updated and improved their website.
I am grateful to their open and refreshingly down to earth communications and through them I have found extremely valuable information to assist my own investment work. That is my opinion and because of the good will I have become a Life Member of their group M4 which entitles me access to all their information, experience, links and discounts.
Unless you have access to the full website you are in no position to comment as to the merit or otherwise of what is presented.
My own time is very valuable and at this stage of the year I am extremely busy so do not have time to deal with this issue you have raised but suffice to say I will advise Vic of my concern for your action and direction which in my view is misguided and unfortunately personal.
I will advise Brad of your post in as much as you have named him and see what unfolds.
When people do good work as Brad and his team do, it is most unfair that they are criticised and reference is made to silly past internet publicity where there will always be entities that have no good to say. Fair enough if facts are accurate but I believe the material that criticised WV was inaccurate.
Certainly in the present I have heard no critical comment about M4 and I personally rate their service and level of communication very highly. I have no commercial vested interest or affiliate relationship with M4.
Regarding my own work, well as earlier stated the steps I have taken this year, the connections made, and the plans ahead are the most exciting yet in an already wonderful life.
Perhaps you would like to comment on that.
This will be the last note I will write on this absolutely boring thread you have established. No one is interested. There are hardly any readers. The 600 or so visits are probably me, and a handful of others accessing your latest insight and attempts to question and quite blatantly, as with Green Gay, attempt to discredit me.
There is so much you do not know.
Why don't you write or contribute something that is actually useful and current to this forum membership. What can you offer that is constructive and can be applied to help someone else make money.
I have formally complained to Vic who of course is absolutely fair. I have done nothing in breach of forum rules or etiquette much as I would like to tell you exactly what I think but that would do no good for anybody.
If you noted my writings in the past years you would understand I have repeatedly cautioned against any progression in roulette betting and my own professional private bet is flat staking. You know so very little yet post this rubbish.
I do not encourage others to be irresponsible and in fact constantly cite examples of my good play but also my mistakes with very clear examples for study. Several times I have told the story of how my greatest mentor in roulette lost a fortune in progression play in LV and London. Fortunately he was an extremely wealthy businessman and could manage the loss but it crushed him.
I also write frequently on roulette case studies and if I am such a poor writer ( as you claim) and of no interest to others why does my current roulette thread have over 6600 visits.
Despite my attempts to be amicable and conciliatory with good humour you now re-commence your evidently grudge campaign attempting to find fault. Of course looking for such you will attract such.
All my future notes on this matter, if mentioned at all, will be on my Blog.
Quote from: XXVV on October 05, 2015, 05:00:19 AM
This will be the last note I will write on this absolutely boring thread (personal attack) you have established. No one is interested. There are hardly any readers. The 600 or so visits are probably me (personal issues), and a handful of others accessing your latest insight and attempts to question and quite blatantly, as with Green Gay (personal attack), attempt to discredit me.
There is so much you do not know.
Why don't you write or contribute something that is actually useful and current to this forum membership. What can you offer that is constructive and can be applied to help someone else make money.
I have formally complained to Vic(poor Vic) who of course is absolutely fair. I have done nothing in breach of forum rules(you just called me green gay, which I find thoroughly offensive, not to me, but to all homosexual persons made to feel being gay is somehow derogatory or joke worthy. I have never called you xxcocksucker for instance, though I probably should have by now. I might just make a little complaint to Victor myself) or etiquette(see previous comment) much as I would like to tell you exactly what I think but that would do no good for anybody. (passive aggresive)
If you noted my writings in the past years you would understand I have repeatedly cautioned against any progression in roulette betting and my own professional private bet is flat staking. You know so very little yet post this rubbish.
I do not encourage others to be irresponsible and in fact constantly cite examples of my good play but also my mistakes with very clear examples for study. Several times I have told the story of how my greatest mentor in roulette lost a fortune in progression play in LV and London. Fortunately he was an extremely wealthy businessman and could manage the loss but it crushed him.
I also write frequently on roulette case studies and if I am such a poor writer ( as you claim) and of no interest to others why does my current roulette thread have over 6600 visits. (most of them are me)
Despite my attempts to be amicable and conciliatory with good humour you now re-commence your evidently grudge campaign attempting to find fault. Of course looking for such you will attract such.
All my future notes on this matter, if mentioned at all, will be on my Blog.
Quote from: XXVV on October 05, 2015, 05:00:19 AM
No one is interested. There are hardly any readers.
Speak for yourself, I read them wondering what motivates somebody to post so much without revealing anything, other than "ooh look at me". Also there are more, a lot more Roulette boards in the cyber-world which are frequented a lot more than this, this board really has a small roulette audience compared to them so again I wonder why....
The highlighting and directing to those 'M4' sites is contentious...
Quote from: XXVV on October 04, 2015, 09:39:07 PM
Interesting.
KLW you have spent a lot of time in trying to dig up something that is wrong or unethical. ( It didn't take long at all , it's all on Google )
Your motivation. If it is to protect the quality and integrity of this Forum then good work, and I respect that principle. ( Thanks )
I am well aware of the earlier publicity regarding wealth vault and the early problems they had. That was part of my due diligence conducted several years ago before I decided to join with them on a toe in the water approach. You may be amused but I suspect not that with some irony in my own fraud research with regard to CEH and the 'Swiss Scammers' and their blatant use of the Brighton branch of HSBC, I had come across 'Wealth Vault' as one of the websites that indirectly the scammers had contact with, as well as a couple of other links such as web host and some financial blogs that were US and Canadian based. In fact I joined a Canadian property group that was formed by a retired policeman in Canada as they had a much more likely link to CEH et al.
Recall the Swiss scam must have taken in several million USD and I understand German roulette enthusiasts were particularly hard hit after I researched the traffic and origins on the original website used for the scam ( while it was still in operation).
My research indicated at that time ( over 3 years ago) that the scammers distributed their funds in various financial outlets and thus had used the Wealth Vault as a source of information at one time in order to find outlets for investment, just as all other customers do.
HSBC is well known to have acted as a no questions asked bank for use by drug cartels as reported by Max Keiser on RT.com and it astonishes me how brazen were these acts and of course they were fined accordingly.
The two founders of Wealth Vault over the years have vastly improved their website and quality of information content.
Quite openly and directly Brad W. has commented on past bad publicity and in my opinion he and his team have moved on and very professionally have upgraded their information source to M4 and in the past 6 months have updated and improved their website.
I am grateful to their open and refreshingly down to earth communications and through them I have found extremely valuable information to assist my own investment work. That is my opinion and because of the good will I have become a Life Member of their group M4 which entitles me access to all their information, experience, links and discounts.
Unless you have access to the full website you are in no position to comment as to the merit or otherwise of what is presented. ( Correct , but I've seen enough just by reading the run of the mill front end presentation of " free reports etc " and " all this for $37 !!! )
My own time is very valuable and at this stage of the year I am extremely busy so do not have time to deal with this issue you have raised but suffice to say I will advise Vic of my concern for your action and direction which in my view is misguided and unfortunately personal. ( It's not personal,just trying to warn readers against a web site that is being run by people that have fraud and scam allegations made against them and is being constantly touted and promoted by you in almost every other post you make and that you as a poster wanted $1000 for an introduction for information leading to a fantastic alternative investment vehicle and when challenged by me for some basic information on this alternative investment vehicle you then proceeded as a moderator to delete my posts , edit yours constantly to backtrack and become elusive , lock the thread and finally delete it to erase my challenges to you and your solicitation of the $1000. Readers can make their own mind up from this paragraph, everything I have written is the truth as it has unfolded,not your twisted versions )
I will advise Brad of your post in as much as you have named him and see what unfolds. ( Go ahead )
When people do good work as Brad and his team do, it is most unfair that they are criticised and reference is made to silly past internet publicity where there will always be entities that have no good to say. Fair enough if facts are accurate but I believe the material that criticised WV was inaccurate.
Certainly in the present I have heard no critical comment about M4 and I personally rate their service and level of communication very highly. I have no commercial vested interest or affiliate relationship with M4. ( This we will never know )
Regarding my own work, well as earlier stated the steps I have taken this year, the connections made, and the plans ahead are the most exciting yet in an already wonderful life.
Perhaps you would like to comment on that.
Quote from: XXVV on October 05, 2015, 05:00:19 AM
This will be the last note I will write on this absolutely boring thread you have established. No one is interested. ( There obviously is ) There are hardly any readers. The 600 or so visits are probably me, and a handful of others accessing your latest insight and attempts to question and quite blatantly, as with Green Gay, attempt to discredit me.
There is so much you do not know. ( yes that does intrigue me, what about some basic details as originally requested , I would be the first to endorse them if they have merit and will end all this )
Why don't you write or contribute something that is actually useful and current to this forum membership. What can you offer that is constructive and can be applied to help someone else make money. ( When I have something concrete on roulette I will )
I have formally complained to Vic who of course is absolutely fair. I have done nothing in breach of forum rules or etiquette much as I would like to tell you exactly what I think but that would do no good for anybody. ( Yes I have also written to him )
If you noted my writings in the past years you would understand I have repeatedly cautioned against any progression in roulette betting and my own professional private bet is flat staking. You know so very little yet post this rubbish. ( I have proven that I have vast experience of the financial markets,I know a hell of a lot more than you do , you are just a bitter person and your postings reflect that )
I do not encourage others to be irresponsible and in fact constantly cite examples of my good play but also my mistakes with very clear examples for study. Several times I have told the story of how my greatest mentor in roulette lost a fortune in progression play in LV and London. Fortunately he was an extremely wealthy businessman and could manage the loss but it crushed him.
I also write frequently on roulette case studies and if I am such a poor writer ( as you claim) and of no interest to others why does my current roulette thread have over 6600 visits.
Despite my attempts to be amicable and conciliatory with good humour you now re-commence your evidently grudge campaign attempting to find fault. Of course looking for such you will attract such.
All my future notes on this matter, if mentioned at all, will be on my Blog.
Hi guys, both of you are trying to make some good; the fellows are actually trying to protect our community from what is perceived to be a possible "scheme" of sorts. XXVV also seems honest in trying to do some good with his sharing of what he perceives are opportunities.
Both sides have been welcome to post their case, readers have been warned, let's put the case to rest :nod: (thread is now locked)
On a final, lighter note. Thanks a lot for caring about this community and aiming at making a positive contribution. I see nothing but good intentions on both sides.
A hoping-to-focus our good-willed people to better threads,
Vic