I have to continue this thread here as XXVV has made many accusations against me and despite his offer of a right to reply thread in " What motivates XXVV " he again deletes my posts and locks the thread so that all the readers only see his version of events. Totally undemocratic and dictorial. What is it you have to hide XXVV ?

I will reproduce below the exact post he deleted on his " What motivates XXVV " thread below:-



" Hello.

I would be more than happy to move on once a few things are cleared up.


I am not negative towards your efforts on producing a market report just your effort to solicit funds in the manner that you did.

Re. multi directional trading , here is my original reply before you conveniently deleted it :-

" What on earth is this !!! There is no such thing. You either go long a currency or short it,traders have done that for years. What other direction is there to trade !!! "


So stop trying to belittle me for exposing your amateur attempt at glorified marketing. So again you are twisting things and trying to mislead the readers as to my trading knowledge. Your last ( re-edited ) attempt at trying to explain multi directional trading was laughable, plus you talk about me not making defamatory statements yet this is exactly what you have done when you wrote above :-

"  you had no comprehension of the term 'multi directional trading "

You expose yourself XXVV more and more for the person that you are with each and every post you make.

I am not being defensive at all just clearing up a few things. I do not wish to change my descriptions of your writings as " twisting things " and " misleading readers " as you have proved that yet again in your last post to me.

So, now that I have corrected what I needed to , I am now prepared to move on as you seem to be very keen to do this.

So unless you have more to say on the matter it's goodbye. "



This is the EXACT post , not an edited or re-edited version that XXVV seems to constantly do. I have proved several times that you do indeed twist things and mislead readers,your closing post on the afore mentioned thread another such example :-

" who do not listen or comprehend material that is out of their sphere of experience "
"  although a self described market trader you had no comprehension of the term 'multi directional trading' " ( from your first reply in the thread )

I had already provided indicative information as to my considerable trading experience, these are DEFAMATORY statements.



" KLW just does not get it. I made no charge for the direct links and introduction to/from my private investment colleagues. " 

The whole point is YOU TRIED TO CHARGE $1000 originally and only bactracked several times to free after being challenged repeatedly by myself. Of course you again conveniently deleted these posts as well as repeatedly editing yours to improve your version !!!


" Instead I have received  a stream of abuse and defamatory comments from GG and KLW which astonishes me."

Please show me one abusive remark or defamatory comment I have made about you ? Every comment I have made I can back up with evidence that it is true. I have evidence of your editing and re-editing and re re-editing of your posts, I have copies of my deleted posts especially where I provide indicative information as to my trading experience and still you belittle my trading knowledge with defamatory statements.

You can take any  " firm action " you want, I have done nothing wrong except maybe expose your , let's say your character flaws to be polite and save some readers here $1000.

There are plenty of successful investment vehicles available on the web and they don't want a $1000 introductory fee. Just Google "  list of top 10 fund managers " or similar , there is plenty of information available quite quickly , none of this cloak and dagger introduction needed ( yes you deleted that post as well,the one where I asked for past performance details etc. )

So stop making defamatory remarks about me , it is clear from my postings at Trade2win that I have considerable trading experience.

That others may think negatively of you is down to you and the way you have conducted yourself on public forums. We are all not stupid.

Victor - I don't know how long this self moderation is going to continue.  But at least is there. Time stamp that can be added to the posts to say last modified.  I had seen that in a number of posts where xxvv has edited.  If it is to change views it is alright. But if it is to claim 1000$ first and then edit the post and say I have never asked for money that is a very wrong community behaviour. In fact I have seen such a note in the past. 

Oh for heaven's sake what is wrong with you people? Can you not read? How many times do I have to state....

Once forum members contacted me and they explained and demonstrated their genuine interest, no fee was required!

How many times do I have to state this. No payment was made. This was a 'filter' to prevent time wasters.

Your comments which disregard my repeated and detailed explanations of a complex subject are just coming across as  trouble making and petty. My intention in all of my work is to assist others genuinely and on lots of levels. Do you not get this?

Quote from: klw on September 20, 2015, 11:24:10 AM
I have to continue this thread here as XXVV has made many accusations against me and despite his offer of a right to reply thread in " What motivates XXVV " he again deletes my posts and locks the thread so that all the readers only see his version of events. Totally undemocratic and dictorial. What is it you have to hide XXVV ?

I will reproduce below the exact post he deleted on his " What motivates XXVV " thread below:-



" Hello.

I would be more than happy to move on once a few things are cleared up.


I am not negative towards your efforts on producing a market report just your effort to solicit funds in the manner that you did.

Re. multi directional trading , here is my original reply before you conveniently deleted it :-

" What on earth is this !!! There is no such thing. You either go long a currency or short it,traders have done that for years. What other direction is there to trade !!! "


So stop trying to belittle me for exposing your amateur attempt at glorified marketing. So again you are twisting things and trying to mislead the readers as to my trading knowledge. Your last ( re-edited ) attempt at trying to explain multi directional trading was laughable, plus you talk about me not making defamatory statements yet this is exactly what you have done when you wrote above :-

"  you had no comprehension of the term 'multi directional trading "

You expose yourself XXVV more and more for the person that you are with each and every post you make.

I am not being defensive at all just clearing up a few things. I do not wish to change my descriptions of your writings as " twisting things " and " misleading readers " as you have proved that yet again in your last post to me.

So, now that I have corrected what I needed to , I am now prepared to move on as you seem to be very keen to do this.

So unless you have more to say on the matter it's goodbye. "



This is the EXACT post , not an edited or re-edited version that XXVV seems to constantly do. I have proved several times that you do indeed twist things and mislead readers,your closing post on the afore mentioned thread another such example :-

" who do not listen or comprehend material that is out of their sphere of experience "
"  although a self described market trader you had no comprehension of the term 'multi directional trading' " ( from your first reply in the thread )

I had already provided indicative information as to my considerable trading experience, these are DEFAMATORY statements.



" KLW just does not get it. I made no charge for the direct links and introduction to/from my private investment colleagues. " 

The whole point is YOU TRIED TO CHARGE $1000 originally and only bactracked several times to free after being challenged repeatedly by myself. Of course you again conveniently deleted these posts as well as repeatedly editing yours to improve your version !!!


" Instead I have received  a stream of abuse and defamatory comments from GG and KLW which astonishes me."

Please show me one abusive remark or defamatory comment I have made about you ? Every comment I have made I can back up with evidence that it is true. I have evidence of your editing and re-editing and re re-editing of your posts, I have copies of my deleted posts especially where I provide indicative information as to my trading experience and still you belittle my trading knowledge with defamatory statements.

You can take any  " firm action " you want, I have done nothing wrong except maybe expose your , let's say your character flaws to be polite and save some readers here $1000.

There are plenty of successful investment vehicles available on the web and they don't want a $1000 introductory fee. Just Google "  list of top 10 fund managers " or similar , there is plenty of information available quite quickly , none of this cloak and dagger introduction needed ( yes you deleted that post as well,the one where I asked for past performance details etc. )

So stop making defamatory remarks about me , it is clear from my postings at Trade2win that I have considerable trading experience.

That others may think negatively of you is down to you and the way you have conducted yourself on public forums. We are all not stupid.

Again I will note here the arguments 'ad hominem'. Why this personal attack?
This matter must be resolved and I will seek Moderation and Administration advice.

Quote from: XXVV on September 20, 2015, 08:00:52 PM
Oh for heaven's sake what is wrong with you people? Can you not read? How many times do I have to state....

Once forum members contacted me and they explained and demonstrated their genuine interest, no fee was required!

How many times do I have to state this. No payment was made. This was a 'filter' to prevent time wasters.

Your comments which disregard my repeated and detailed explanations of a complex subject are just coming across as  trouble making and petty. My intention in all of my work is to assist others genuinely and on lots of levels. Do you not get this?

No I don't actually because that's not how it unfolded. You wanted $1000 for contact details for your special investment. I challenged this a number of times,it went down to a reduced price, then free to trusted forum members , then free to all. It's not trouble making it's ensuring the true version stays in print , not your back tracking , re-edited numerous times version which you then deleted the whole thread. Very slippery !

" Again I will note here the arguments 'ad hominem'. Why this personal attack?
This matter must be resolved and I will seek Moderation and Administration advice. "


Again, this is not a personal attack just defensive postings against your defamatory remarks and ensuring the true version remains in print,because as usual you modified posts to suit your own end and deleted mine.This is why I started this thread out of your moderation reach. I too will be contacting Victor regarding your defamatory remarks and your attempts to belittle me.

I'd like to know why XXVV places so much importance to and reacts so strongly when his nickname's reputation is challenged?

It's not like his career life and private business dealings are affected in any possible way, it's just his silly nickname within an obscure and anonymous forum that is ever questioned.

I've actually given this some thought and no matter how I evaluate it, I believe the final answer is an over-inflated sense of self, known as Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Historically, there are a lot traits to support this diagnosis within the writings and behaviour of XXVV.


It's either that, or it's to vigorously defend and protect an investment of some sort within the forum.

Both?...who knows.

Actually, these are rhetorical questions... I'm just putting it out there.

I shouldn't need to, but given my diagnosis I will add a disclaimer.

Disclaimer:
We all have silly nicknames.

Quote from: klw on September 20, 2015, 10:58:27 PM
" Again I will note here the arguments 'ad hominem'. Why this personal attack?
This matter must be resolved and I will seek Moderation and Administration advice. "


Again, this is not a personal attack just defensive postings against your defamatory remarks and ensuring the true version remains in print,because as usual you modified posts to suit your own end and deleted mine.This is why I started this thread out of your moderation reach. I too will be contacting Victor regarding your defamatory remarks and your attempts to belittle me.

KLW  this is absolutely ludicrous. I frequently modify and edit all my material in order to improve communication or clarity of an idea. Yes at times I change my mind or improve my approach, in particular with roulette.

In this issue we are discussing a level of professional investment which it has taken me many years to find and then access as a member which has cost me a considerable sum of course.

I simply have wanted to provide access to this serious level of work but ensure no time wasters were encouraged. This is work at a level very different from the mainstream because of the  private managed accounts involved and the necessity to not advertise or promote for ethical and legal reasons.

I have never 'back tracked' other than to suggest that quite openly M4 would be a good starting point. Membership for them can be on a simple monthly retainer and their work is quite public. However I have other connections which are far more elite level - the best way to put it although of course I am not an elitist, but discretion and privacy in the financial and banking world is necessary. My personal work is to advocate and encourage much more personal financial freedom which is why Ronnie Moas is a Facebook friend. As one of the top financial analysts in the US his views are iconoclastic.

The top level investment work is light years away from a casino scale speculation, but I felt there might be a few within the 1200 membership here who might be interested, so I wrote about this subject on the forum here.

I found three enquiries in particular, and in every example when the enquiry explained themselves I recognised they were serious investors and in a couple of cases were earlier known to me anyway. At no time did I request or require money from these parties. Do you understand this? How clearer can I state this?  In my general public invite I suggested an amount which deliberately would deter the frivolous or time waster. Can you appreciate this principle of filtering and screening?

At no time have I made a defamatory remark regarding yourself. However I wondered at your incomprehension of the generic term which is used in the NY managed trading account terminology which is 'multi directional trading'. Again I explain by showing you that most advocates for US equity investment preach a 'buy and hold'  mantra which is fine for bull markets but in a 6 year sliding bear market is disastrous. We are NOT talking forex trading here. Multi directional traders can handle and benefit in rising, falling and choppy markets. It does not mean they always have winning trades but they have more winners than losers and the net difference enables consistent MONTHLY ( not daily) gains.

I have patiently explained  my intentions, my motivation and my actions.

I hope this brings clarification.  This  discussion must be brought to an end now.

Quote from: greenguy on September 20, 2015, 11:46:05 PM
I'd like to know why XXVV places so much importance to and reacts so strongly when his nickname's reputation is challenged?

It's not like his career life and private business dealings are affected in any possible way, it's just his silly nickname within an obscure and anonymous forum that is ever questioned.

I've actually given this some thought and no matter how I evaluate it, I believe the final answer is an over-inflated sense of self, known as Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Historically, there are a lot traits to support this diagnosis within the writings and behaviour of XXVV.


It's either that, or it's to vigorously defend and protect an investment of some sort within the forum.

Both?...who knows.

Actually, these are rhetorical questions... I'm just putting it out there.

I shouldn't need to, but given my diagnosis I will add a disclaimer.

Disclaimer:
We all have silly nicknames.

Oy Vey
Give me a break!

What am I doing writing in this forum on serious investment or professional level play?

The three posters GG, KLW and MM have certainly ruined my enjoyment here after a year of really fun work and research.

Consider all my threads locked for some time ahead. I am taking a break and concentrating on matters that really assist others.

" However I wondered at your incomprehension of the generic term which is used in the NY managed trading account terminology which is 'multi directional trading'. "

Again you make a defamatory remark ( above ) !

From Google ---- Defamatory -- (of remarks, writing, etc.) damaging the good reputation of someone; slanderous or libellous.

I have provided to you previously indicitive evidence of my trading experience, I know just about every trading term there is to know from my 20 years of experience and for the last time , multi directional trading doesn't exist. You buy or sell. That's it ! Your attempt at describing markets going up , down or choppy is just that , describing types of markets, it is not multi directional trading. Do you not get this ! I have traded all asset classes in my 20 years not just Forex and they all require the same method of entry, a buy or a sell. There is no other type. Your scrambled attempt at backtracking to explain this is pathetic.

You keep using buy and hold mantra statement as some type of weapon to bolster your investment vehicle , buy and hold rapidly declined after the tech. bubble burst in early 2000 , day trading and short term swing trading has been the norm since then, you are only 15 years out of date using that angle as a plus for your scheme. You really are out of your depth here XXVV , no wonder you don't want
to continue these threads.

Your behaviour in this has been disgraceful. On being repeatedly challenged by me, you deleted threads , locked threads, deleted my posts ( and others ) and edited your own posts countless times in order to backtrack, make defamatory comments against me, belittle me and scramble to improve your own meanings/positions. That is not the behaviour of someone with nothing to hide.

Now that I have at least some posting history on this matter I am done, especially with you XXVV.

At least my challenges to XXVV may have saved some members here $1000, that must count for something in all of this.

It is absolutely worthless attempting to communicate with you KLW. Your closing remark ' at least my challenges to XXVV may have saved some members here $1000...'. What utter self deluded rubbish. You have done nothing constructive, and have  illustrated your stubborn ignorance in an area of  investment about which you have not the access or resources evidently. Again I re-iterate 'no charge was/ has been made for information I provided' although it may well have saved someone years of searching  and research in due diligence and indeed have considerable value to a qualified applicant. I know had I myself been offered such a link say 5 years ago I would have been delighted. Recall I write because I was defrauded by CEH. And my goal ever since has been to try to right those wrongs, and demonstrate what is possible with true and genuine knowledge.

Further KLW you manifest the same old circular defensive argumentative flaw of doing exactly yourself for what you claim of the other party.

No more wasted energy on you or this nonsense/ side show you have promoted - it is already dust under the rug.

I have taken further advice on my position ( and been refreshed) and will continue in my current mode as the market context over the coming months will be fascinating and a source for much discussion. My 'disgraceful' behaviour definition by you is worth framing - thanks for that. You certainly have been wound up tighter than a classic alarm clock. Look forward to your thunderous response and if and when they are deleted by me ( for legitimate cause) you can re-post elsewhere and see if you can widen your scope for complaint until you get bored. Meanwhile I will be moving on and covering fresh territory. Cheers.

There are good reports from two areas of interest to me - roulette where I will be reporting on a the fantastic results of analysis of 36 million spins by a trusted colleague - and the market reaction in bio-techs after the action of a CEO who comes across as a graduate hedge fund manager with little awareness that actions ( in this case words)  have consequences. Please refer to the appropriate threads.

Quote from: Missmusibat on September 20, 2015, 07:17:19 PM
Victor - I don't know how long this self moderation is going to continue.  But at least is there. Time stamp that can be added to the posts to say last modified.  I had seen that in a number of posts where xxvv has edited.  If it is to change views it is alright. But if it is to claim 1000$ first and then edit the post and say I have never asked for money that is a very wrong community behaviour. In fact I have seen such a note in the past.

Once again MM you have got it completely wrong.  You are looking for trouble and the tunnel vision $1000 is the headlight that is blinding you bunnies.  I change and edit all my posts frequently which seems to disconcert some people but sometimes I try to improve clarity of meaning, or grammar, or yes even sometimes I change my mind. Yes I even delete my own posts at times. In fact I will be deleting a whole bundle really soon!

From the very outset I used the mention of $20,000 plus as required funds and $1000 as access for the material links that are valuable. Weirdly you have not referred to the larger sum or perhaps you actually understand that bit. Unfortunately you just cannot seem to get it that an 'introduction' fee is a way of screening out and filtering time wasting tyre -kickers. We have reached an impasse here.

I have told you the facts and you do not believe me.

There is no point in you persisting with your fixed and negatively biased view.

It is already dust and under the rug and we are moving on.

Do you know how many words I have utilised in my writing on this forum. You do know I have posted 1100 threads and on average since joining one post on average per day in the three years on this particular forum.

How many posts have you made (24) and how have you contributed to the sum of knowledge on this Forum? I am not trying to embarrass you or make you feel awkward but what I am saying is that if you wrote more, took more risks, upset a few more people, ( because you cannot please everyone all the time), then you would find the need to edit, to filter, to correct and to self moderate is essential. Please reflect upon this principle.

Hello.

Well I was going to leave it but you don't seem to want to do this yourself. I take it I am one of the " bunnies " that you refer to in your last post ? I notice your post ( #10 ) has been edited , considering you have made 1104 posts you don't seem to be very good at it,most of your posts get edited , a tip , type to notepad then copy and paste it after scrutinising it , unless of course you have rage blindness then nothing will help. I get mine right first time every time doing it this way with a cool clear head, none of my posts have been edited,this can be confirmed.

I don't have time unfortunately for any more however your willingness to " help " others has given me idea. So will do when I have more time.

Exciting times lay ahead.

Quote from: klw on September 22, 2015, 06:19:21 PM
Hello.

Well I was going to leave it but you don't seem to want to do this yourself. I take it I am one of the " bunnies " that you refer to in your last post ? I notice your post ( #10 ) has been edited , considering you have made 1104 posts you don't seem to be very good at it,most of your posts get edited , a tip , type to notepad then copy and paste it after scrutinising it , unless of course you have rage blindness then nothing will help. I get mine right first time every time doing it this way with a cool clear head, none of my posts have been edited,this can be confirmed.

I don't have time unfortunately for any more however your willingness to " help " others has given me idea. So will do when I have more time.

Exciting times lay ahead.

My reply was directed to MM not you as that writer was still going on about 'edits'. I would be delighted to move on as clearly there is an impasse.  However your comments here as always are most insightful as to your personality. Why is there a problem in editing or improving a post? I like change, speed and spontaneity, and because of practice I write rapidly to help the flow of creative thought. We all have different styles and mannerisms, and that is delight of artistic expression. There is no one way to do things. I take the view that if one can express an idea in 100 words that is much better than 10.

However being really constructive here, and as you wish to 'help', as you have considerable market experience, why do you not contribute a post/ update/ review / comment on weekly action in the markets from your perspective. Then you can do something proactive and constructive instead of what most people do here which is reactive.

It is all about pattern recognition - markets or roulette, and the bewildered participants in the US Markets are starting to become very scratchy/ itchy as it becomes clearer a bear market approaches. Do they buy in this morning after another loss day? Curious that a tipping point trigger comes out of left field and of all things is VW, with implications that all auto manufacturers are cheats and the extraordinary confessional by the CEO of VW was astonishing, with criminal charges to follow.

Perhaps you might like to comment or note currency directions or ideas, suggestions and strategies or goals.

Let me throw one in here to get the ball rolling. The Vietnamese Dong.