Razor

To me, it is unthinkable to win every session.  Even going ahead one unit.  Then again, Superman is doing it.

'Course I could be doing something wrong, but I get the RFH right out of the starting gate.  I have learned to break my bankroll down into mini-sessions.  I just lose a mini session and move on.

To me, the "Holy Grail" is a graph that inches upwards over a period of time.  That's not to say there are no downturns.  There are.  But at the end of the week/month/year you are better off than you were the same time last time.

Samster

My history is attached.  This is playing .05 with a D'Alembert progression.  If I could do this every ten days, it would be my "Holy Grail".

My other account

@ Drazen, Sputnik and Razor, glad everyone seems to understand now, sorry I can't explain fully what I do each session, if I could it would be coded into a bot, but each session is different I never know what is going to happen until it actually happens, I can only work with what is being sent to me, a few things I have noticed over the time I have been doing it is

Evenings seem to be harder (UK time) why? no idea but they seem to have tougher lengthy losses which makes the session much longer, maybe I am too tired and can't work with what's going on, I don't know, my easiest sessions are at 7:30 am ish, secondly, jury still out, but european roulette is NOT pushing me too hard, yet! NZ would give me a tough time very often, I would say 40% of the time, understanding programming gives me the idea that as the RNG has to select from 36 option for NZ or 37 for european there appears to be some sort of difference in what it chooses to do, why? no bloody idea but they do appear different.

I get up at 7 have breakfast, play roulette to get my session done then I play poker at PKR, I play practice tables as I just enjoy kicking a$$es of the TOUGH ALL in type muppets you get on the free chip tables, again online poker is RNG generated knowing what cards to play and when to play them is paramount, I play the 6 seaters and aim to be at the worst 2nd place, the idiots you find there are difficult opponents as they take silly risks and win often on those stupid risks which make sit even more challenging. For anyone interested to see how my track record looks go to http://www.sharkscope.com/ and put my player name in nf3nn4 to see my graph, I play purely for enjoyment and to pass an hour before work.

Poker is a lot like roulette, for example if you are dealt 2 2's the best way for these to win the round is if you hit a trip on the flop, and if you are on blinds and everyone has checked other wise if someone raises I would normally fold, but lets say all check and you see the flop, no 2's land and someone rasies, I would fold, lets say you get 3 or 4 low pair hands and manage to limp in to the flop, if you've gone 3 or 4 times with alow pair and none have tripled up, the next low pair I get I would go in IF someone raises purely because you haven't hit a trip for X hands, it works quite often, you just need to keep a mental count of what's gone before, you can beat some very good hands with a low pair hitting a trip, again its all for fun only downside is, if you intend on winning the table it can take an hour or more, 90% of poker players are impatient thus wasting too much chips on sh1tty hands.

Quote from: Drazen on April 27, 2013, 07:49:23 AM
Thanks, I am pretty sure I understand now all around your play. And as you say, it is as it was seemed to me  No rules, no tracking, no STD.. Just your "maneuvering" ( we could say even blind, because there is no any tracking of anything) based on your personal permanence and betting amounts also on the fly. How much you think could be right.

That way you are still after 3K of sessions on the same chip and that way you would play differently and probably more cautios with higher chip size.

So abstract that it can't be more. But if you ask me, important is that is works by some miracle. That is really enigma to me mate and I bet even more to you

Best

Drazen

---There are no miracles in random play....since roulette it self is random game,therefore it should be
play thatway to beat it...........BUT HOW.......that is another question....and it is beatable on the long run...
as Sam pointed out;weeks,months years counts...there are nights when I sometimes lose more then
expected....but casino works every night.....and as long as you are there on regular basis means that you are playing with their money........many players I see today lose large amount......wanished for a while ,comes back again and same story repeats from month to month......in other words,mostly losers are ppl
that earn their money for living....that for sure I know many.

 

Quote from: FLAT_IN_O on April 27, 2013, 08:24:10 PM

---There are no miracles in random play....since roulette it self is random game,therefore it should be
play thatway to beat it...........BUT HOW.......that is another question....and it is beatable on the long run...

 
Well my dear FLAT_IN_O, sir, there are no miracles in this game I agree for sure. I can say that I think that maybe there are just slight better triggers then some others but still not so much that we can relly hard on them.
I mean in terms that they still can make us trouble if we are not very carefull.


I took about one month of practicing real play and conditions and now soon I  will  start to play for real. As all you successfull and some pro players do, it seems I ll do about very similar.

I haven't lost about 200 test sessions and I didn't go even over about 100 units in DD aiming for 5-10 units a session. My max stakes in worst case were about 20-25 units I think. Becasue I wanted so actualy.. Nice enough from my point of view.

First of all my play is based on advices, general knowledge and similarity from Bayes. I am also using his software and more then special thanks goes to him.

My BS are based on deviations. When I see 3+ STD at some sequence I start to play against it. If I don't hit at first 3-4 shots I abandon and wait for another trigger, not chasing anything for too long.

Thing is that his software is tracking 40 spins on several different betselections and those 3 STD events are almost never same looking shape but coming all the time. How come?

Well roulette sequence is more then R/B. It can actualy be looked through several dimensions. I mean there is not only one ratio in the sequnce. Not just R/B but chops vs strikes and all lengths of those. We know that their mathematical relation is same as R to B.


The 'law of series' says that a double  is half as likely as a chop, a run of 3 is half as likely as a double, a run of 4 is half as likely as a run of 3 etc. So I search such triggers at 3.0 STD and playing against them, but not for long

3.0 std is pretty rare event by itself so I bet that it won't grow even more straight away and at the same time if It grows that I decide to abandon it,  I hope that next few won't do the same. That is a bit logical if you think about it. Serious trouble would be when many such independant events would hit successive many times in a row.  So already rare events should become much much rarer and hit successive many times in a row to casue me trouble. I think that is better then random betting.


But 2nd part of the play is most  important I say. I use special very carefully designed progression (you won't find it on any forum) and I play it PATIENTLY. Even such BS which is based against already strong deviations, can't make your play without stress or some more unpleasnt losing strikes from time to time. That way you still need to play slow and patiently waiting for the tide to turn. Becasue such things don't happen often, you just need to be carefull and wait for your strike to come.


In play that would mean if stakes gets to high or uncomfortable for me, I cut them to half or some point where is ok and continue from there. Eventualy I get out of the mud. But if you start to panic and want to recover losses in next few seconds you could get drown very easy and that would actualy happen most of the time.


Learn to be patient before all! I had situations where I had to cut few times not to go over my max wanted stake, but I went out from hole eventualy. Even if I know it must take10-20 bets maybe to glance situation. I profit on any L/W situation and that way I know I must get out form hole eventualy. Nasty things do happens really rare, most of the time it is very pleasnt balanced game so I know sunshine will shine at some point again.


So all in all there are no "set in stone" rules, nor I could code this way of play. I have some general principles from which I don't deviate, but manualy handling is what is great part of it.


So If this can help someone to make its own HG I would be glad. I hope and have feeling will be mine too


Regards


Drazen

Quote from: Gizmotron on April 26, 2013, 02:20:01 PM


Now please don't tell me that you can't figure out what to do with a hot streak.

I can't even identify a hot streak till its almost
over. Tell us how you identify it early enough
to take advantage of it.

Quote from: spike on April 28, 2013, 06:42:17 PM
I can't even identify a hot streak till its almost
over. Tell us how you identify it early enough
to take advantage of it.

NO.

QuoteThe 'law of series' says that a double  is half as likely as a chop, a run of 3 is half as likely as a double, a run of 4 is half as likely as a run of 3 etc. So I search such triggers at 3.0 STD and playing against them, but not for long

Very true for long run but the problem is we do not play for long run, in a session. So all these theories may not go very well in session to session unless you are very lucky.

Hm but Albalaha if things don't behave similar in the short run (at least to some point) then they can't accumulate on the long run as they should.

But doing this like I said is something else. Not placing all eggs in one basket. It is called diversification and in economics it has firmly provable grounds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversification_%28finance%29

Drazen

One can have hot streaks on several grounds at the same time......what then???
Since am aware that here/and other forums/are only about 005% real players  of
B&M casinos,mostly here are on line players.......and there is a large difference
between those 2...once you start playing there, then you should come as a winner
with all that artificial knowledge that you gained here,learning how to beat RNG and
on line numbers,which none of you succeeded as yet,nor will you ever do.
So go to real casino/aware that most of you haven't one near your home/and become
a winner with your knowledge.My 2 kunas.

I must say , Thank you all for your input.