Here are several people who say they have a system that works. For example Superman, Albalaha, Gizmotron, Johnlegend and sorry if I forget anyone.
The question is: if any of them publish the winning system do you think the methods discussion would end?
Why should it not be?. Why argue about systems that do not work after there is one that works published? We will have to wait for some kind soul let the system publicly for all to see.
It would be interesting to see if after a forum member publishes a system that works people will continue discussing Martingale rehashed.
What is your opinion?
If I write my Holy Grail, all discussions will end up forever and all readers will run to casinos or play online ones. So for the community to keep running, it is essential that a grail be kept hidden from public eyes.
And Johnlegend and Gizmo have already published their "systems".
Don't forget Spike. He never loses.
Quote from: Albalaha on April 26, 2013, 05:15:22 AM
If I write my Holy Grail, all discussions will end up forever and all readers will run to casinos or play online ones. So for the community to keep running, it is essential that a grail be kept hidden from public eyes.
Interesting position. This line of discussion I wanted to get.
We could say that the action by the owner of publishing the holy grail would be counterproductive for the community?
You know that I do not support the sale of systems but the only way I see to share such a valuable piece would be to sell the holy grail with a confidentiality agreement. But we go back to the question why sell it from a first instance.
Personally I do not think there is a winning system that can be called absolute so I do not think that the discussion in reality can come to an end. Only if declared after all relevant evidence by independent public review of several parts somebody could talk about the absolute winning method. Unfortunately there is only isolated people that claim to have wonderful results for their holy grail without public scrutiny.
It would be good to do a collection of so-called winning systems and make them real long-term tests.
Quote from: wannawin on April 25, 2013, 11:07:48 PM
Here are several people who say they have a system that works. For example Superman, Albalaha, Gizmotron, Johnlegend and sorry if I forget anyone.
The question is: if any of them publish the winning system do you think the methods discussion would end?
Why should it not be?. Why argue about systems that do not work after there is one that works published? We will have to wait for some kind soul let the system publicly for all to see.
It would be interesting to see if after a forum member publishes a system that works people will continue discussing Martingale rehashed.
What is your opinion?
The truth is cruel sometimes.
First you should not believe that they have winning methods.
This is internet and any one can pretend and lie.
There is a reason why there does not exist winning systems public on internet, they don't exist.
Its about you, not a system, strategy or method.
Psychological you know when to quit and stay ahead and handle loses, then you might have a positive net gain in the end ...
MM is more important then choose of method, my opinion.
One week you might hit amazing strikes and capitalize, next week you might hovering around zero, other week you might thank God that you know when to quit and don't get ruin.
Common sense can make you a winner with out searching for a super method that not exist.
Friend Sputnik, I completely agree with what you say. The truth can be cruel but it is true.
I myself have experienced what you say: The method that one day is gold but copper next day.
If there is a method that is gold every day I do not think anyone in their right mind who wants to give away for free. It would be very generous or very foolish. And we all know which is not abundant.
QuoteIt would be good to do a collection of so-called winning systems and make them real long-term tests.
I think it is tough to find even one. The game is not unbeatable in itself but it can't be beaten in absolute terms. I mean, nothing can win in every probability because even if we cover all 37 numbers, we stand to lose and if we leave even 1-2 numbers uncovered it can kill momentarily. When I talk of a grail, I talk of winning an ordinary session with routine dispersions. If a method can Win more and lose less if you keep playing the same way, it is a grail. This is my way of defining a grail.
Quote from: Albalaha on April 26, 2013, 05:50:23 AM
I think it is tough to find even one. The game is not unbeatable in itself but it can't be beaten in absolute terms. I mean, nothing can win in every probability because even if we cover all 37 numbers, we stand to lose and if we leave even 1-2 numbers uncovered it can kill momentarily. When I talk of a grail, I talk of winning an ordinary session with routine dispersions. If a method can Win more and lose less if you keep playing the same way, it is a grail. This is my way of defining a grail.
Thanks to define the particular grail concept for you.
I agree: Unless it is oneself who spin the numbers to his will there is always the possibility of losing.
From there I think that even if a system is successful for one person it may not be for the neighbor. The most you can get similar to the absolute system would be a system that was successful for many but never for everybody. To accept that others are going to lose is a mandatory thing but if there are many more who win and they finally win enough to cover the total loss counting all players that lose we can speak of grail.
Therein lies the importance of the tests to be public and maybe for the test group to proceed to play as a team to overcome the individual losses.
QuoteHere are several people who say they have a system that works. For example Superman, Albalaha, Gizmotron, Johnlegend and sorry if I forget anyone.
No system works long term so there's probably a few people you can cross off your list. I don't have a system, a system is mechanical in my opinion so is a method, a way of play is different.
QuoteFirst you should not believe that they have winning methods.
This is internet and any one can pretend and lie.
Very true.
QuoteThere is a reason why there does not exist winning systems public on internet, they don't exist.
Its about you, not a system, strategy or method.
Psychological you know when to quit and stay ahead and handle loses, then you might have a positive net gain in the end ...
MM is more important then choose of method, my opinion.
Exactly, if YOU can't read/understand the current situation in front of you and make good decisions as to when, where and how much to risk (that's all you are doing, guessing and risking) then YOU need to study/learn/work harder until you get it right more often.
I laugh now when I read what players say sometimes, "I saw Number 21 hit 5 times so I bet on it" as this event has already happened there's no reason at all that that specific number is guaranteed to hit again, sometimes it will but most often it won't
QuoteCommon sense can make you a winner with out searching for a super method that not exist
True again, YOU can only do it yourself, I doubt it could be taught, you either see it or you don't.
QuoteThe method that one day is gold but copper next day
That covers everything ever written on the internet doesn't it? as none of them work long term.
QuoteIf there is a method that is gold every day I do not think anyone in their right mind who wants to give away for free.
I, without bragging, would say I am lucky enough to have this gold every day as I haven't lost a session in 6 months now, I've explained the best I can as to what I do but nobody is prepared to learn, they want it written down in ABC steps which I guess is human nature, that's why we will always have forums for gamblers jumping from one method to the next.
Congratulations on your success.
We all know that you are honest. It is titanic to get away positive during 6 months in this game. Not many people can say that. I wish you success to multiply many bankrolls and to be sustainable over time.
Quote from: Superman on April 26, 2013, 06:52:04 AM
I, without bragging, would say I am lucky enough to have this gold every day as I haven't lost a session in 6 months now, I've explained the best I can as to what I do but nobody is prepared to learn, they want it written down in ABC steps which I guess is human nature, that's why we will always have forums for gamblers jumping from one method to the next.
Well Superman please don't get me wrong but some things sound a bit strange in your perspective. You said you have won almost 3 thousands of sessions without a single loss. "Hat of to that" is insufficient thing to say.
But even after all that you still play with 0.05 chip.
I know that you don't have to earn for living out of roulette but that chip size sounds at least weird for a man who has beaten 3000 sessions without a loss.
That is even more strange when you said you turned 20 euros in 150 or more few times... So for you to be able play with casinos money even with a enough higher chip wouldn't be a problem since you have won more than enough for that.
You also said that you don't actualy "like" roulette in terms it is your passion and you like to spent few hours a day in front of it, like I am/would. So your only goal would be to make some extra cash on random generator. That way you play electronical much faster roulette. You also said you aim 10 units per session and with 0.05 chip size that would be 0.50 cents a day? Even after 3000 sessions beaten? That sounds realy strange to me. What is the trick?
You said you don't have strict set of rules, otherwhise you could code it and make cash cow. But to play with so low chip size after so many beaten sessions doesn't have any sense at all.
So I wonder are you actualy confident in the way you play roulette? I mean do you know and can explain what gets you overall "advantage" for not losing single session in so many trials? Or you think you were just lucky?
I must admit that I read all your posts where you tried to explain the way how you play, but all I found is that you apparently play FTL and bet on streaks and chops when you "THINK" it will hit. Hm.. if someone doesn't consider this explanation a bit clumsy, can it say opposite? Please if I missed at least a bit better explanation, can you point me to that?
You were emphasizing how MM is important and that is what you were trying to explain more then betselection, but is your BS really made just out of your personal permanence? I mean you don't take any mathematical, statistical relations when you choose your bets? To be honest I don't think so.. It wouldn't have sense. Then successful playing roulette would be much abstract thing, right?
Drazen
Quote from: wannawin on April 26, 2013, 05:49:30 AM
If there is a method that is gold every day I do not think anyone in their right mind who wants to give away for free at all. It would be very generous or and very foolish.
^This
Giving away something that works, be it for free or not, is nothing more than lots of trouble.
You can create a grail urself if u take care of these:
1. your method or system or way to play is based upon a reasonably long term and not a few spins. Reason: any bet may get unbeatable dispersion, momentarily. It can't be possible in long run.
2. A money management that can sustain a little variance, even above the usual variance due to house edge, in long run.
So, if u plan for short run, u always stand the risk of loss. Martingale, fibo, labouchere etc fails due to this wrong thinking.
You have a grail made for yourself. Can't hint more.
I was right. My winning methods are complicated. I even attempted making it as simple as possible. You use a list of characteristics to identify easy to see conditions. You apply bets to these conditions to see session difficulty vs ease. At no time was any of this process used to confirm a process of prediction. It was used to find the over all conditions during the session. My method works because I deliberately set out to find the hot streaks. All the information gathering is to have a syntactic method for finding hot streaks. I've never had a session that didn't have a hottest streak.
Now please don't tell me that you can't figure out what to do with a hot streak. You evaluate the session difficulty and you attack each session proportional to the difficulties or successes already experienced. In other words, you take advantage of discovered opportunities. Why is this so hard to understand? You bet small when nothing streaks for good, you bet big when it's a hot streak. This advice is as old as the hills.
I agree with wannawin in everything exept the part that if something works for someone it may not work for an other one...
If something really works , it works for everybody.
I really can t beliave what superman is posting...
He used to be a serious roulette explorer and now everything he writes are against his knowlwdje and expirience.
Giz..well he will always be Giz.
albalaha you are always trying to find a winning method and you always say in every post that nothing can win...
But when you remember you are posting that you already have a winning method.
My advice is for all to be serious and not posting things that they can t do and they aren t doing.
No system till now is a winner...Let s all work to make one.
This is the true reason we should all be here after all.
I also agree with Drazen and Sputnik.
Ps. When you ppl will ever understand that if you add up a lot of sessions ,it ends up like playing long run?
When will you understand that quit wile you are ahaid , doesn t help in anyway.
My suggestion is get over this fallacy and you will start making better systems/methods.
Oh well, I aint going to post anymore about how I play, Drazen has sent me plenty of PM's and I have tried to explain to him the best I can, obviousley because he just can't grasp it I am lying, Razor, I don't give a flying f*^k what you think, yes I have been battling the RNG for many years the fact that what I now do can't be botted or explained in "roulette for dummies" makes me a bu11shitter, that's your perogative I suppose.
As Gizmo says, to explain something so straight forward is complicated and near impossible when the audience is 'hoping' for an ABC/123 explanation which isn't there.
@ Razor, spot on about albalaha that's all he's after, I have him on ignore for the past few months already others should do the same, heck, ignore me too.
I am always spot on and I am spot on you too superman.
If you say that every session that you played was a winner , then playing continiously is the same...
Once upon a time you knew that...now I can t understand what happened and you forgot it.
QuoteIf you say that every session that you played was a winner , then playing continiously is the same
OK my last respinse to this nonsense is, Razor you are wrong, heres a quick screenshot of my current sessions at BV, and the last week has been against the european table not NZ.
No red lines as you will see, enjoy and believe what you want mate.
Razor, you sound like a mathboyz. I would not be surprised if you were the
snowman himself. What do you know? Proof is all you are interested in.All I'm
interested in is watching people reject a method that actually works. I get a big
kick out of watching others showing their ignorance. This thread is perfect. It's
the zenith of irony.
@Superman
No, mate you are getting all this wrong I am affraid. I am not lazy, stupid nor I wanted some few simple steps, nor that I can't grasp some harder things maybe. don't want to bother you but all your explanations about BS were "when I think will hit". I am not thinking at all that you are lying but rather not telling maybe more details.
When you already mentioned my harrasing PM-s and my impossibility to grasp some things may I say that you earlier (this year) said to me ..."it all depends on 3.0 deviation really..", and in the last PM you said " I stopped using STD long time ago".. So who can conclude something from such opposing statements?
"I see some singles and soon I expect some series or vice versa to show up".-- Well pretty much like that. You didn't said even half decent explanation to try figuring out although you are saying all the time how you explained your way of betting best possible. For who to understand? Maybe only you. With all due respect.
I was sure and actualy as you said now, you won't talk about your play at all after now, this pis*sed you enough although it wasn't my intention at all, nor to get you mad or depreciate. But things are as they are and I can't change them.
You don't have to prove anything to anyone, nor teach, nor help anyone. All I am saying that your explanations are too blur even for most inteligent or hard working people to connect, although you think somehow they should be enough.
Best
Drazen
@ Superman I never thought even for a sec that you are lying.
I respet you and as I said I consider you as a great roulette researcher and I also consider you as a sirious person.
All I said is that you have taken the wrong path.
You always KNEW that playing continiously or playing hit and run are resulting the same...now what change your mind..I really don t know.
@Giz you got it all wrong.
I never searched for proofs and I never wanted for someone to post a winning method.
@Drazen I really don t think that Superman is hidding something.
What I think is that he also don t know what he is doing so how can he explains it?
If you read Giz and Supermans latest posts you will realize that they both speak as the same person...same kind of play...guessing. Unreal.
I never said that an ABC method is gonna work for sure...but guessing isn t superior.
You never know when a trend is gonna continue to happen ,neither when is gonna stop....so there are no "follow the trend " succes playing.
Quote from: Albalaha on April 26, 2013, 05:15:22 AM
If I write my Holy Grail, all discussions will end up forever and all readers will run to casinos or play online ones. So for the community to keep running, it is essential that a grail be kept hidden from public eyes.
Hello Albalaha,
I wish you continued success!
May I disagree with your above quote? If you explained your method it would take years before even 10 players use it.
Superman
Thank you for posting the screen shot.
Again, what is the "Holy Grail"? I like to work within the confines of a definition.
I think we all know two things:
1. You can't mathematically turn a negative outcome into a positive one;
2. Dispersion or variance will get you--sooner or later.
I've said this and was derided for it, but I'll say it again. An airplane does not eliminate gravity. It is still there. Let the beast run out of fuel and see who wins. But aerodynamics overcomes gravity. (Yes, I know it can be proven and demonstrated.)
But to answer the question.....
Where would we go to have so much fun as we do here if it were not for the "quest"? Where would we get the love?
I've made some friends around the world due to these forums. Sure would hate to see us all become wealthy and mean!
TwoCatSam
P.S. I have no grail, but you knew that.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on April 26, 2013, 11:33:32 PM
An airplane does not eliminate gravity. It is still there.
[...] aerodynamics overcomes gravity. (Yes, I know it can be proven and demonstrated.)
Sam, you got it 100% right: the "accepted way to win" a.k.a
advantage play doesn't deny the existence of the house edge.
The unfair payout because of the extra Euro pocket or pockets in the American game is still there; advantage players create a sufficient edge for themselves that prevails the consuming effect of that from the house.
A battle of powers if you will.
You don't need to stop the river's stream to move up the riverbed, you need to row strong enough to move up.
You are in no way or fashion denying the existence of the stream, you are effectively negating its effect, so
bravo for being sharp on your appreciation.
In this game we can't eliminate dispersion nor the house edge, we can only apply all of our efforts to finding more powerful ways to deal with them.
Quotealbalaha you are always trying to find a winning method and you always say in every post that nothing can win...But when you remember you are posting that you already have a winning method.
I never knew that someone can still say this after I beat 10 Million spins data taken from Victor's forums itself (mostly). I do not need to prove anything. You guys are far away from where I have reached way back. The irony is, nobody is even willing to create a grail even after I clearly mentioned its characteristics.
When I put the number 3 open challenge, I got to see that you simply lack the fighting spirit and just want to swim with the stream. With this way, you will always at the mercy of the stream. It may carry you to your destination or finish you away. Once you learn to swim successfully against it, you can reach wherever you want.
You can never filter out good times or bad times with following the trend. Trend is a fiction created by your mind. You can never decide with even slightest accuracy as to which trend will start or stop and when will it do. In every spin, you have more than 50% chances to lose.
@ Sam, No problem Sam, I was a bit dissapointed with the replies so decided to show an up to date statement so my challenger could actually see that still to this day I play and beat the RNG each time. And as you can see I am now going against worst odds in the european wheel, NZ, been there done that, got bored.
@ Drazen, to cover a few of your posts, yes I still play for pennies/cents whatever, a unit is a unit mate, no I am NOT scared of losing but I would be if I was playing euros, I would probably also play much differently and as I am only playing for fun, to prove to myself I can continually win each session as and when I decide to play one, again, a unit is a unit, I don't let greed get in the way.
I used to try everything in a bot, I used to track with a tracker, I used to play for SD etc etc etc, none of those methods/systems/styles of play were any better than any other so over time I have ended up playing like I do, what more can I say.
Quote@ Superman I never thought even for a sec that you are lying.
I respet you and as I said I consider you as a great roulette researcher and I also consider you as a sirious person.
All I said is that you have taken the wrong path.
You always KNEW that playing continiously or playing hit and run are resulting the same...now what change your mind..I really don t know
Thanks for that, if you think my changing tact to one where I win every session is the wrong path then that's weird mate. Yes botted strict methods playing continually always end the same way, big loss/es, maybe what I've just said to Drazen will make you understand.
QuoteAgain, what is the "Holy Grail"?
I think some people think its something that can be explained perfectly so everyone can have it, if that was the case it would make history as would roulette be assigned to history and ended then and there. My opinion is if you can win each session (and prove it with screen shots when needed) then you have a style that suits the outcomes, I wouldn't say I have a grail as I still gat caught out every now and then with bad runs/decisions and as I have said before, sometimes I can be 10 15 units down and just reset to 1 unit and take much longer to win the session, chasing creates a different mindset its best to forget the loss and start again.
Quote from: Superman on April 27, 2013, 07:02:28 AM
I used to try everything in a bot, I used to track with a tracker, I used to play for SD etc etc etc, none of those methods/systems/styles of play were any better than any other so over time I have ended up playing like I do, what more can I say.
Thanks, I am pretty sure I understand now all around your play. And as you say, it is as it was seemed to me :o No rules, no tracking, no STD.. Just your "maneuvering" ( we could say even blind, because there is no any tracking of anything) based on your personal permanence and betting amounts also on the fly. How much you think could be right.
That way you are still after 3K of sessions on the same chip and that way you would play differently and probably more cautios with higher chip size.
So abstract that it can't be more. But if you ask me, important is that is works by some miracle. That is really enigma to me mate and I bet even more to you :)
Best
Drazen
I think it sounds great that you doing great Superman.
Cheers
Playing with the same value of chips isn t bad in the case of Superman because he still tests his method.
I know that (because of his true knowledje and expirience) he knows that these winning sessions could be a luck even if the number of the sessions are a lot.
@Sam a method deserves to be called H/G when it can get + in any session no matter the fluctuation of the outcomes.
Razor
To me, it is unthinkable to win every session. Even going ahead one unit. Then again, Superman is doing it.
'Course I could be doing something wrong, but I get the RFH right out of the starting gate. I have learned to break my bankroll down into mini-sessions. I just lose a mini session and move on.
To me, the "Holy Grail" is a graph that inches upwards over a period of time. That's not to say there are no downturns. There are. But at the end of the week/month/year you are better off than you were the same time last time.
Samster
My history is attached. This is playing .05 with a D'Alembert progression. If I could do this every ten days, it would be my "Holy Grail".
My other account
@ Drazen, Sputnik and Razor, glad everyone seems to understand now, sorry I can't explain fully what I do each session, if I could it would be coded into a bot, but each session is different I never know what is going to happen until it actually happens, I can only work with what is being sent to me, a few things I have noticed over the time I have been doing it is
Evenings seem to be harder (UK time) why? no idea but they seem to have tougher lengthy losses which makes the session much longer, maybe I am too tired and can't work with what's going on, I don't know, my easiest sessions are at 7:30 am ish, secondly, jury still out, but european roulette is NOT pushing me too hard, yet! NZ would give me a tough time very often, I would say 40% of the time, understanding programming gives me the idea that as the RNG has to select from 36 option for NZ or 37 for european there appears to be some sort of difference in what it chooses to do, why? no bloody idea but they do appear different.
I get up at 7 have breakfast, play roulette to get my session done then I play poker at PKR, I play practice tables as I just enjoy kicking a$$es of the TOUGH ALL in type muppets you get on the free chip tables, again online poker is RNG generated knowing what cards to play and when to play them is paramount, I play the 6 seaters and aim to be at the worst 2nd place, the idiots you find there are difficult opponents as they take silly risks and win often on those stupid risks which make sit even more challenging. For anyone interested to see how my track record looks go to http://www.sharkscope.com/ (http://www.sharkscope.com/) and put my player name in nf3nn4 to see my graph, I play purely for enjoyment and to pass an hour before work.
Poker is a lot like roulette, for example if you are dealt 2 2's the best way for these to win the round is if you hit a trip on the flop, and if you are on blinds and everyone has checked other wise if someone raises I would normally fold, but lets say all check and you see the flop, no 2's land and someone rasies, I would fold, lets say you get 3 or 4 low pair hands and manage to limp in to the flop, if you've gone 3 or 4 times with alow pair and none have tripled up, the next low pair I get I would go in IF someone raises purely because you haven't hit a trip for X hands, it works quite often, you just need to keep a mental count of what's gone before, you can beat some very good hands with a low pair hitting a trip, again its all for fun only downside is, if you intend on winning the table it can take an hour or more, 90% of poker players are impatient thus wasting too much chips on sh1tty hands.
Quote from: Drazen on April 27, 2013, 07:49:23 AM
Thanks, I am pretty sure I understand now all around your play. And as you say, it is as it was seemed to me :o No rules, no tracking, no STD.. Just your "maneuvering" ( we could say even blind, because there is no any tracking of anything) based on your personal permanence and betting amounts also on the fly. How much you think could be right.
That way you are still after 3K of sessions on the same chip and that way you would play differently and probably more cautios with higher chip size.
So abstract that it can't be more. But if you ask me, important is that is works by some miracle. That is really enigma to me mate and I bet even more to you :)
Best
Drazen
---There are no miracles in random play....since roulette it self is random game,therefore it should be
play thatway to beat it...........BUT HOW.......that is another question....and it is beatable on the long run...
as Sam pointed out;weeks,months years counts...there are nights when I sometimes lose more then
expected....but casino works every night.....and as long as you are there on regular basis means that you are playing with their money........many players I see today lose large amount......wanished for a while ,comes back again and same story repeats from month to month......in other words,mostly losers are ppl
that earn their money for living....that for sure I know many.
Quote from: FLAT_IN_O on April 27, 2013, 08:24:10 PM
---There are no miracles in random play....since roulette it self is random game,therefore it should be
play thatway to beat it...........BUT HOW.......that is another question....and it is beatable on the long run...
Well my dear FLAT_IN_O, sir, there are no miracles in this game I agree for sure. I can say that I think that maybe there are just slight better triggers then some others but still not so much that we can relly hard on them.
I mean in terms that they still can make us trouble if we are not very carefull.
I took about one month of practicing real play and conditions and now soon I will start to play for real. As all you successfull and some pro players do, it seems I ll do about very similar.
I haven't lost about 200 test sessions and I didn't go even over about 100 units in DD aiming for 5-10 units a session. My max stakes in worst case were about 20-25 units I think. Becasue I wanted so actualy.. Nice enough from my point of view.
First of all my play is based on advices, general knowledge and similarity from Bayes. I am also using his software and more then special thanks goes to him.
My BS are based on deviations. When I see 3+ STD at some sequence I start to play against it. If I don't hit at first 3-4 shots I abandon and wait for another trigger, not chasing anything for too long.
Thing is that his software is tracking 40 spins on several different betselections and those 3 STD events are almost never same looking shape but coming all the time. How come?
Well roulette sequence is more then R/B. It can actualy be looked through several dimensions. I mean there is not only one ratio in the sequnce. Not just R/B but chops vs strikes and all lengths of those. We know that their mathematical relation is same as R to B.
The 'law of series' says that a double is half as likely as a chop, a run of 3 is half as likely as a double, a run of 4 is half as likely as a run of 3 etc. So I search such triggers at 3.0 STD and playing against them, but not for long
3.0 std is pretty rare event by itself so I bet that it won't grow even more straight away and at the same time if It grows that I decide to abandon it, I hope that next few won't do the same. That is a bit logical if you think about it. Serious trouble would be when many such independant events would hit successive many times in a row. So already rare events should become much much rarer and hit successive many times in a row to casue me trouble. I think that is better then random betting.
But 2nd part of the play is most important I say. I use special very carefully designed progression (you won't find it on any forum) and I play it PATIENTLY. Even such BS which is based against already strong deviations, can't make your play without stress or some more unpleasnt losing strikes from time to time. That way you still need to play slow and patiently waiting for the tide to turn. Becasue such things don't happen often, you just need to be carefull and wait for your strike to come.
In play that would mean if stakes gets to high or uncomfortable for me, I cut them to half or some point where is ok and continue from there. Eventualy I get out of the mud. But if you start to panic and want to recover losses in next few seconds you could get drown very easy and that would actualy happen most of the time.
Learn to be patient before all! I had situations where I had to cut few times not to go over my max wanted stake, but I went out from hole eventualy. Even if I know it must take10-20 bets maybe to glance situation. I profit on any L/W situation and that way I know I must get out form hole eventualy. Nasty things do happens really rare, most of the time it is very pleasnt balanced game so I know sunshine will shine at some point again.
So all in all there are no "set in stone" rules, nor I could code this way of play. I have some general principles from which I don't deviate, but manualy handling is what is great part of it.
So If this can help someone to make its own HG I would be glad. I hope and have feeling will be mine too ;)
Regards
Drazen
Quote from: Gizmotron on April 26, 2013, 02:20:01 PM
Now please don't tell me that you can't figure out what to do with a hot streak.
I can't even identify a hot streak till its almost
over. Tell us how you identify it early enough
to take advantage of it.
Quote from: spike on April 28, 2013, 06:42:17 PM
I can't even identify a hot streak till its almost
over. Tell us how you identify it early enough
to take advantage of it.
NO.
QuoteThe 'law of series' says that a double is half as likely as a chop, a run of 3 is half as likely as a double, a run of 4 is half as likely as a run of 3 etc. So I search such triggers at 3.0 STD and playing against them, but not for long
Very true for long run but the problem is we do not play for long run, in a session. So all these theories may not go very well in session to session unless you are very lucky.
Hm but Albalaha if things don't behave similar in the short run (at least to some point) then they can't accumulate on the long run as they should.
But doing this like I said is something else. Not placing all eggs in one basket. It is called diversification and in economics it has firmly provable grounds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversification_%28finance%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversification_%28finance%29)
Drazen
One can have hot streaks on several grounds at the same time......what then???
Since am aware that here/and other forums/are only about 005% real players of
B&M casinos,mostly here are on line players.......and there is a large difference
between those 2...once you start playing there, then you should come as a winner
with all that artificial knowledge that you gained here,learning how to beat RNG and
on line numbers,which none of you succeeded as yet,nor will you ever do.
So go to real casino/aware that most of you haven't one near your home/and become
a winner with your knowledge.My 2 kunas.
I must say , Thank you all for your input.