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General Discussion / Re: COINCIDENCE, the theory.
« on: October 21, 2018, 03:47:27 am »
Thanks Gizmotron and Kattila.

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hi Kattila,
below is your numbers arrangge as matrix of three.




This is what random give us ....random,

 R      B      B
 B      R      B
 R     B       B
 R     R      B
 B     R       B
 R     B       B
 B      R

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This is what random give us ....random,

 R      B      B
 B      R      B
 R     B       B.......(RBB FOLLOW BRB)
 R     R      B
 B     R       B
 R     B       B.....(RBB FOLLOW BRB.....again, a coincidence)
 B      R


Above coincidence two in row...

when BRB hit again,  will RBB follow?
if RBB hit, then that coincidence three in row.
===================

This is what random give us ....random,

 R      B      B
 B      R      B.......(BRB FOLLOW RBB)
 R     B       B
 R     R      B......(No repeat after RBB)
 B     R       B
 R     B       B
 B      R

No repeat of coincidence.

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General Discussion / Re: COINCIDENCE, the theory.
« on: October 20, 2018, 02:53:57 pm »
thanks Magician for your thoughtful thought.
Appreciate them, thanks again.

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General Discussion / Re: COINCIDENCE, the theory.
« on: October 20, 2018, 11:55:03 am »
or ds in past six spin

(1234, 4, 4)...(missing=5&6)

then next six spins=
(5,6, 5,6, 5,6) ???

of course it may...

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General Discussion / Re: COINCIDENCE, the theory.
« on: October 20, 2018, 11:52:50 am »
oversimplified example. ..

say in six ds,

past six spin=(ds 12345 & 5...)

that is ds 6=missing...

will it coincidently that in next six spins=the missing ds, namely 6.
hit six time in next six spins???

(12345, 5) hit...then
(666666)?!  hit?!

that highly unlikely coincidence...

of course the progression is high. too...

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General Discussion / Re: COINCIDENCE, the theory.
« on: October 20, 2018, 11:33:49 am »
research your "double street" data,
after six different ds hit, will next six spin have six different ds...again?
(apart from zero)


it may, but, in how many spins?
have you seen any?

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General Discussion / Re: COINCIDENCE, the theory.
« on: October 20, 2018, 11:30:11 am »
thanks Magician,

the probability remained unchanged,
the pass and present do not predict the future...
that why we try to bet the coincidence,
merely because coincidence itself  highly unlikely to coincidently coinciding ...

this OVERSIMPLIFIED EXAMPLE.

in next three rows..you see..
332..(1missing)
232..(1missing)
 323... (1missing) then after numerous matrix ...


abb
bcc
332 hit...again.....will 1 be missing again? of course it MAY...

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General Discussion / Re: COINCIDENCE, the theory.
« on: October 20, 2018, 02:35:33 am »
Another example.

matriz dozen three.
you see..
111..
222...
333...three row of coincidence. ..

 after a numerous row..
you see..

111..
222...then...will...
333 hit...again???

.if 333hit again , that be great coincidence!

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General Discussion / Re: COINCIDENCE, the theory.
« on: October 20, 2018, 02:18:13 am »
Thanks stingbeanpc, and Magician

The COINCIDENCE has DIFFERENT probability from the mathboys' probability.

 say, in DZ MATRIX OF 3.
if you see

123...then ..
123...that a three different dz in a matrix...
and a coincidence of repeat ..
after a few more matrix rows...

123 hit again, then what the coincidence that...
123 ...hit again?
 if 123 hit again, that ...

123
123
 xxx
abb
aba
123..hit...then..
123....hit again...meaning two coincidence happened in a row..

now the mathboys shrieking .".PROBABILITY STILL UNCHANGE!!!"
 "ok..ok..we heard that a million time now, and bored to death with thatt..."
but coincidence happened in a row? that another probability....

 Another example.
you see

123...then..
111 hit...then after few rows of matrix..
abb
bab
123 hit again...will the next matrix be ...
111.....Again???

 if 111 hit again...then that a coincident in a row..
 then after few rows of matrix...

123 hit...then will next be...
111....AGAIN?!
that be three coincidence in row...

123
111
abb
aba
123
111
abb
aab
123
111...Three in row.!!!what the probability?

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General Discussion / COINCIDENCE, the theory.
« on: October 15, 2018, 02:57:40 pm »
Cambridge English Dictionary

coincidence definition:
1. an occasion when two or more similar things happen at the same time,
especially in a way that is unlikely and surprising:
2. chance or luck:
3. an occasion when two or more things ...

 Hi,
 Say, every morning , when you walk toward your workplace,
you cross path with the sweet young girl....,

 that's not coincidence,
 because you deliberately timed your walking pace to
 coincide to cross path with her...

Say, one day,
while at a traffic light, you see a Honda stoping at the red light,
followed by a Toyata, then a VW, and a Chevy. ..

Then, the next day, at around the same time, at the same red,
traffic light, you noticed, a Honda, Toyota, VW, and a Chevy...
Wow!
What a coincidence!

Will the next day, at the same time and traffic light,
the same sequence of Honda,Toyota, VW, Chevy....happen again?

Or, after a few day passed, at that traffic light, you see a Honda,
then a Toyota happen to stop behind it...
then...will the next car be a VW...
then followed by a ...Chevy?

Now, all the mathboys and experts shrieking. .
."The probability still the same, no matter what!"

Of course the probability, remain the same...

But the question, is, will the COINCIDENCE ,
meet with the same COINCIDENCE ..again?

It same like coincidentally, wise,
 will "red" hit 100 time in the next 100 spins..?
(.the probability is 50/50 minus green , shriek the mathboys...)

the REDS hit 10in row, then 10in row again,
 that 20red, is coincidence, but for coincidence of "10-in-row",
to hit ten of 10in row, is just impossible!

 or will the green zero, hit 10 in row?
(the probability 1/37, again, shriek the mathboys)
zero hit twice, is coincidence, hit 3, is coincidence of coincidence,
4 is rare, but 10in row?

Mathboys. .. say.."yes!"
But in coincidence theory,
 it may not hit in your life time, because it highly unlikely...

likewise,


 in next 12spin, DS, you see six different ds hit, then another six different ds hit,
will next 6spins produce six different ds....again?!
 (again, the mathboys shrieking, its 1/6 minus zero!!!!)
BUT THE COINCIDENCE HIGHLY UNLIKELY! or never in your lifetime...

or if you see dozen..123, then 123again, then....will next be 123...again?

if we wanna win, after all the lung collapsing debating with the mathboys...
we should think in term of coincidence vs coincidence term..

.this is where the "probability of coincidence", a different perspective setting.

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General Discussion / Re: Matrix 3 dz strategy.
« on: September 20, 2018, 11:41:06 am »
Seems that even matrix strategy will revert to  edge, and can't win in long term, thus we need to depend on luck :nope:

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General Discussion / Re: @stringbeanpc, about the matrix dozens.
« on: September 20, 2018, 11:34:57 am »
Thanks Stringbeanpc,
Seems that there no way to beat them.

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General Discussion / Re: @stringbeanpc, about the matrix dozens.
« on: September 20, 2018, 04:35:16 am »
Thanks Stringbeanpc,

Do you mean if someone could avoid betting the matrix (as you described),
then the edge will be distorted?
(To 75%....)


and since we can't avoid them, then the edge of 2.7 green, and 1/27possibilities,  still remain....

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General Discussion / Re: Matrix 3 dz strategy.
« on: September 19, 2018, 05:48:25 am »
So when you intend to bet Single dz only,
You wait for   " only 3dz/3spins.."

Say
123...now bet matrix also 3dz/3spins matrix.bet the last, third spin.
321...win...

123,
323...lose 1u.

123
111...no bet
132...win

123
222 no bet
121  ..lose 1u.

123
333
132..win
123..no bet
321 ..no bet  ...wait for virtual break, start anew....

There no edge, whatsoever,  but, the highly stable, (perceived), is helpful...

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General Discussion / Matrix 3 dz strategy.
« on: September 19, 2018, 04:58:45 am »
As we already know,
Apart from zero green,
There will...

Three different dz in 3spins
Only 2dz in 3spins,
3same dz in 3spins,
And 3zero in 3spins...

3different dz in 3spin=33% minus green, and 66% for other formations.


Single vs Series.
3different dz in 3spins, will repeat once, twice, thrice to infinite, but the most seen , rarely, up to six repeat.


Thus..
,
123,
.... (a single , of 3different dz in 3spins)
123,
321...twice...(a series of 2)
Xxx.

321,
123
231,..series 3.

321,
123,
213,
231....series 4, and so on to infinite...

Thus the simplest is SINGLE VERSUS SERIES (regardless of how many repeat)

The probability of single/series=66/33% minus green.

The probability of series of 2,  become series3=33% minus green.

"only 1dz or only 2dz/3spin ", also can single and series.

123,
121,...a single.
231...

231,
121,
323...series of two....
321....

123,
323,
311,
212,...series of 3,
132...

The probabilty of "non 3dz/3spins   "...single=33%    , series= 66%....minus green.

So how to bet?
When you see 3dz/3spins, you may bet...

123  that 3dz/3spins matrix.


Bet next matrix, may 3dz/3spins, or "non 3dz/3spins"

One of the advantage, they are stable, meaning they highly LIKELY, to hit
Within Math Expectation.

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General Discussion / @stringbeanpc, about the matrix dozens.
« on: September 19, 2018, 03:03:10 am »
@stringbeanpc,
Thanks for your posting..
111   211   311
112   212   312
113   213   313

121   221   321
122   222   322
123   223   323

131   231   331
132   232   332
133   233   333

Three Same Dozens 3 out of 27
111
222
333

Three different dozens 6 out of 27

123   213   312
132   231   321

Two dozens 18 out of 27
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

As we know, its always 33% vs66% minus green probability.

But as the only2dz in matrix aka pinwheel,
If we forego the 111, 222, 333 matrix,
And only bet the formation of matrix consist of "only 2dz in 3spins"
Then the probability is 24probability,

Then 18/24=75% ???
Why 24, as we left out the 111, 222, 333.

6/24=25%...?

doesn't this sort of distorted edge, since we not bet the 111, 222, 333,
Instead of 66/33%....if we bet from the begining of 3spins, but 75% for 2dz/3spins???

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