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Offline Denzie

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Re: Flat 4
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2016, 04:06:39 pm »
Ah dear old Ken....what a guy :applause:

Anyway I did get some dd from it. I think Side B his tweak is bit better. And after that thread he vanished forever. .... ..... :cheer:

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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2016, 08:50:11 pm »
Just a heads-up: I removed a bunch of posts from MrJ (Ken) because they were just personal attacks toward other members.

I also removed those responses from other members. I appreciate you guys defending yourselves, but I want to keep this thread all about the method itself.

Not sure why MrJ is all riled-up about this, but maybe there's something to this method.

Keep testing!!! :thumbsup:


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Re: Flat 4
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2016, 08:58:55 pm »
Just a heads-up: I removed a bunch of posts from MrJ (Ken) because they were just personal attacks toward other members.

I also removed those responses from other members. I appreciate you guys defending yourselves, but I want to keep this thread all about the method itself.

Not sure why MrJ is all riled-up about this, but maybe there's something to this method.

Keep testing!!! :thumbsup:

Agreed.

Stay on topic and do what we are here to do. Formulate ideas

Obviously this worked for him and that's why he plays it

So lets discuss it and or tweak it. 6 to 8 years behind comments means nothin to me not sure bout u guys
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Because the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.

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Re: Flat 4
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2016, 09:04:48 pm »
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Because the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.

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Re: Flat 4
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2016, 09:49:35 pm »
First test from me.


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Re: Flat 4
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2016, 10:24:33 pm »
Lol...the deleting came from the other side for a change. Didn't saw the rest though as I was in the casino. Probably better.

So are we still testing? Maybe we could try Side B his way ....I saw it to many times when I go to a new group that the old one hits and hits...anyway I'll keep my updates here .....happy testings

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Re: Flat 4
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2016, 11:13:13 pm »
Remember after testing comes a time  when " the tochas  has to be put on the table".


For recreational purposes only.
By all means  also at your own risk.

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Re: Flat 4
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2016, 11:27:38 pm »
Remember after testing comes a time  when " the tochas  has to be put on the table".


For recreational purposes only.
By all means  also at your own risk.

If you want to dance, you've got to pay the fiddler ;)
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Because the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.

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Re: Flat 4
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2016, 11:33:46 pm »
Lol...the deleting came from the other side for a change. Didn't saw the rest though as I was in the casino. Probably better.

So are we still testing? Maybe we could try Side B his way ....I saw it to many times when I go to a new group that the old one hits and hits...anyway I'll keep my updates here .....happy testings

I'm in the middle of another project right now, but I'll put some time in on this over the weekend and list my results on Monday.

Thanks for the great testing, and feel free to post any tweaks you like to move this forward!!! :thumbsup:


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Re: Flat 4
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2016, 12:12:16 am »
I did come up with a tweak after some thought.

Let's take the 0 wheel groups. They start at A. 5-6-22-32. So let's add numbers 1,2,3,4 to the original numbers.

This leaves....

5=A1
6=A2
22=A3
32=A4

Here are all the numbers.

1=E1
2=H1
3=K1
4=D1
5=A1
6=A2
7=D2
8=J1
9=L1
10=L2
11=E2
12=H2
13=C1
14=J2
15=B1
16=C2
17=K2
18=B2
19=C3
20=H3
21=E3
22=A3
23=K3
24=B3
25=J3
26=L3
27=B4
28=E4
29=C4
30=H4
31=K4
32=A4
33=D3
34=L4
35=J4
36=D4

Use the 1,2,3,4 numbers the same as you would use the A,B,C,D,E,H,J,K,L.

What this does is reduce the bets to sometimes just 1 or 2 bets and also means you can play all numbers if there is a tie because it should still only leave a few numbers to bet.

Thanks to Ken for the original idea and I hope this tweak is useful.
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Re: Flat 4
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2016, 01:15:28 am »
Easy to track and easy to play.

After 18 spins.....

H had 5 hits.
2 had 8 hits.

So a bet on H2 on the 19th spin.
Bet H2 on 20th spin.
Bet H2 on 21st spin.
Bet H2 on 22nd spin. HIT!! +32.

H2 was leading all the way for those 4 spins and so it was a nice win just betting the single number.
Sometimes it is the people who no one imagines anything of who do the things that no one can imagine.

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Re: Flat 4
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2016, 01:59:45 pm »
Nice tweak. Tried it out myself and got +24 with a win on the 12th spin. No tie (H3 dominant) so I only bet the single number.

Will look further into this.

Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Flat 4
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2016, 09:41:44 pm »
Tested this over the weekend with lackluster results. Came out ahead, but I'm concerned about a possible dd.

This would need testing over at least 25,000 spins min, and unfortunately, I don't have the time right now.

I now have a new understanding of what it means to actually test a system properly, and I completely see how many members think they have a winning system over 100s of hours of play.....................but then the hammer falls!!!

You play 40hrs per week for 3 months winning each and every day...........then it tanks.... :fight:

Thanks to all who continue to test, and best of luck!!! :thumbsup:


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Re: Flat 4
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2016, 03:02:25 am »
I stop testing it as it goes deep in the hole. As most his methods. Didn't need 6-8 years to figure that out. The law you was right why he deleted them. Just think how you would feel after all that big talk about real men and experience. They tank and that's it. Anyway moving on ....

Ooo and Ken...I couldn't care less what you try to do with those posts. It shows me you care and got nothing. Or you wouldn't go in the attack like you . All best for you in the big building with lights and your 1-4 numbers.  :cheer:

For testers...onion and liberty tanks too