Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 17, 2013, 11:42:04 AM
OK.......not being critical.........don't delete me! 

It seems about a half a mile between asterisks.  How does a human actually do this in a casino?  Am I the only one who pees?

Sam

Sam these are results for dozen 1 only. If we were tracking all three dozens, we would get a greater volume of games. Bayes million spin tests showed an average of about 1 game every 62 spins.

Quote from: Bayes on January 17, 2013, 09:51:25 AM
John, here are the results which the program produced from your spins above. I'd appreciate it if you could look over them because there is a difference from your results, in particular, +11 units were made and not +10.

The numbers to the right of the spins show the gaps between doz 1, a "L" shows a bet which was lost, and an asterisk shows a trigger.

21  1
19  2
29  3
36  4
7  5
7  1
16  1
12  2
20  1
2  2
7  1
11  1
6  1
34  1
24  2
35  3
12  4
8  1
23  1
24  2
22  3
22  4
10  5
27  1
18  2
28  3
15  4
21  5
17  6
28  7
4  8
30  1
1  2
8  1
16  1
36  2
13  3
2  4
24  1
4  2
30  1
17  2
18  3
31  4
1  5
29  1
27  2
25  3
3  4
7  1
1  1
18  1
33  2
7  3
35  1
11  2
1  1
17  1
14  2
9  3
19  1
6  2
4  1
35  1
6  2
6  1
19  1
34  2
0  3
26  4
30  5
13  6
35  7
16  8
11  9
7  1
27  1
13  2
35  3
13  4
7  5
12  1
7  1
10  1
24  1
26  2
5  3
22  1
24  2
6  3
25  1
10  2
31  1
35  2
10  3
30  1
13  2
6  3
26  1
29  2
3  3
15  1
2  2
21  1
14  2
29  3
9  4
14  1
7  2
34  1
14  2
20  3
3  4 *
14  1
30  2
0  3
28  4 +1
15  5
36  6
5  7
28  1
23  2
34  3
23  4
15  5
14  6
29  7
35  8
1  9
0  1
23  2
24  3
16  4
17  5
20  6
12  7
19  1
11  2
36  1
16  2
12  3
28  1
9  2
27  1
5  2
7  1
18  1
28  2
4  3
22  1
24  2
17  3
28  4
23  5
30  6
14  7
2  8
27  1
29  2
32  3
22  4
16  5
36  6
20  7
1  8
4  1
16  1
4  2
28  1
27  2
5  3
14  1
0  2
7  3
25  1
18  2
29  3
18  4
34  5
19  6
23  7
19  8
11  9
3  1
3  1
35  1
35  2
20  3
27  4
10  5
16  1
4  2
16  1
10  2
15  1
17  2
26  3
24  4
33  5
17  6
19  7
33  8
16  9
9 10
5  1
16  1
30  2
13  3
16  4
2  5
28  1
13  2
8  3
19  1
3  2
21  1
4  2
14  1
2  2
5  1
12  1
11  1
32  1
7  2
35  1
11  2
20  1
17  2
16  3
14  4
2  5
35  1
7  2
20  1
18  2
3  3
24  1
30  2
31  3
30  4
17  5
26  6
23  7
10  8
30  1
30  2
6  3
16  1
10  2
26  1
27  2
8  3
28  1
4  2
9  1
24  1
22  2
10  3
3  1
20  1
3  2
21  1
3  2
3  1
7  1
17  1
36  2
33  3
17  4
22  5
33  6
16  7
10  8
7  1
8  1
11  1
9  1
26  1
25  2
7  3
36  1
25  2
24  3
29  4
34  5
35  6
28  7
2  8
27  1
36  2
24  3
29  4
21  5
18  6
5  7
14  1
34  2
17  3
19  4
27  5
17  6
3  7
5  1
27  1
12  2
12  1
6  1
19  1
18  2
18  3
30  4
15  5
22  6
4  7
18  1
33  2
26  3
4  4
19  1
33  2
28  3
7  4 *
33  1
7  2
29  1
17  2
14  3
14  4 +1
29  5
10  6
30  1
23  2
20  3
19  4
26  5
9  6
36  1
31  2
5  3
33  1
16  2
16  3
26  4
21  5
20  6
29  7
33  8
21  9
2 10
33  1
27  2
26  3
4  4
27  1
19  2
30  3
25  4
26  5
35  6
22  7
7  8
26  1
17  2
23  3
23  4
7  5
30  1
18  2
24  3
21  4
30  5
18  6
36  7
30  8
19  9
9 10
9  1
16  1
19  2
32  3
32  4
21  5
18  6
1  7
7  1
12  1
4  1
24  1
4  2
20  1
1  2
22  1
20  2
21  3
7  4
26  1
23  2
15  3
21  4
0  5
27  6
9  7
29  1
1  2
34  1
14  2
36  3
4  4
34  1
0  2
28  3
1  4 *
15  1
0  2
14  3
15  4 +1
30  5
14  6
28  7
0  8
9  9
27  1
33  2
9  3
22  1
22  2
35  3
16  4
17  5
4  6
13  1
24  2
26  3
28  4
16  5
18  6
2  7
18  1
9  2
20  1
35  2
0  3
13  4
17  5
26  6
15  7
12  8
6  1
34  1
36  2
6  3
9  1
4  1
10  1
1  1
27  1
21  2
14  3
13  4
35  5
21  6
24  7
0  8
31  9
25 10
14 11
32 12
10 13
17  1
36  2
22  3
34  4
12  5
8  1
22  1
2  2
27  1
32  2
13  3
31  4
17  5
21  6
32  7
29  8
15  9
28 10
19 11
14 12
12 13
6  1
36  1
4  2
3  1
12  1
20  1
24  2
36  3
12  4
24  1
10  2
16  1
0  2
22  3
25  4
32  5
9  6
22  1
27  2
28  3
20  4
1  5
33  1
8  2
28  1
35  2
18  3
14  4
14  5
33  6
22  7
21  8
24  9
31 10
29 11
8 12
10  1
18  1
18  2
14  3
8  4
29  1
16  2
10  3
27  1
28  2
7  3
11  1
29  1
13  2
14  3
4  4 *
20  1
32  2
25  3
35  4 +1
9  5
16  1
11  2
14  1
9  2
26  1
29  2
6  3
16  1
36  2
33  3
12  4
24  1
13  2
30  3
24  4
26  5
13  6
22  7
9  8
12  1
22  1
34  2
17  3
18  4
32  5
35  6
1  7
3  1
15  1
23  2
16  3
25  4
12  5
3  1
23  1
21  2
17  3
14  4
30  5
7  6
15  1
13  2
23  3
23  4
25  5
0  6
21  7
18  8
12  9
27  1
23  2
34  3
24  4
8  5
3  1
0  1
8  2
11  1
29  1
11  2
6  1
5  1
18  1
26  2
24  3
29  4
17  5
18  6
26  7
28  8
13  9
22 10
6 11
3  1
16  1
14  2
0  3
17  4
35  5
7  6
29  1
26  2
25  3
25  4
17  5
19  6
35  7
36  8
15  9
13 10
26 11
13 12
25 13
23 14
33 15
0 16
17 17
10 18
4  1
5  1
36  1
12  2
19  1
11  2
11  1
35  1
1  2
0  1
32  2
22  3
20  4
17  5
27  6
17  7
27  8
28  9
20 10
8 11
33  1
2  2
18  1
0  2
1  3
14  1
18  2
18  3
14  4
7  5
30  1
18  2
32  3
25  4
29  5
19  6
5  7
36  1
31  2
33  3
25  4
26  5
28  6
29  7
5  8
0  1
8  2
32  1
1  2
11  1
17  1
27  2
23  3
35  4
18  5
7  6
3  1
20  1
4  2
6  1
28  1
36  2
25  3
11  4
1  1
11  1
25  1
26  2
36  3
8  4 *
29  1
29  2
25  3
24  4 +1
9  5
18  1
19  2
16  3
9  4
30  1
32  2
19  3
26  4
17  5
0  6
9  7
15  1
29  2
4  3
1  1
4  1
0  1
31  2
35  3
5  4
24  1
32  2
4  3
6  1
12  1
29  1
28  2
8  3
21  1
10  2
35  1
32  2
3  3
17  1
15  2
32  3
10  4 *
20  1
18  2
31  3
30  4 +1
27  5
24  6
12  7
26  1
14  2
35  3
36  4
16  5
13  6
31  7
7  8
16  1
25  2
11  3
30  1
28  2
15  3
7  4
4  1
4  1
30  1
29  2
4  3
36  1
28  2
22  3
4  4 *
4  1
11  1
16  1
14  2
7  3
24  1
30  2
8  3
32  1
8  2
18  1
9  2
33  1
4  2
9  1
33  1
20  2
26  3
1  4 L
5  1
16  1
21  2
8  3
20  1
13  2
19  3
12  4 L
21  1
22  2
6  3
23  1
1  2
8  1
16  1
17  2
32  3
0  4 L
18  5
14  6
6  7
7  1
32  1
29  2
18  3
28  4 +1
33  5
31  6
9  7
33  1
10  2
15  1
24  2
27  3
2  4
18  1
19  2
7  3
26  1
26  2
26  3
11  4 *
19  1
8  2
22  1
20  2
9  3
28  1
30  2
24  3
3  4 L
0  1
7  2
20  1
24  2
1  3
7  1
16  1
17  2
11  3
12  1
15  1
24  2
24  3
33  4 +1
3  5
25  1
23  2
3  3
20  1
23  2
2  3
4  1
20  1
19  2
35  3
34  4
36  5
0  6
18  7
28  8
21  9
7 10
12  1
11  1
31  1
30  2
12  3
34  1
12  2
23  1
10  2
4  1
36  1
4  2
33  1
15  2
33  3
7  4
12  1
9  1
11  1
21  1
22  2
10  3
26  1
1  2
20  1
36  2
14  3
36  4
28  5
8  6
4  1
21  1
1  2
20  1
0  2
23  3
33  4
6  5
31  1
6  2
14  1
25  2
18  3
34  4
10  5
27  1
20  2
15  3
8  4
2  1
13  1
31  2
17  3
28  4
7  5
28  1
23  2
29  3
27  4
17  5
29  6
28  7
27  8
1  9
29  1
35  2
35  3
15  4
30  5
18  6
15  7
30  8
12  9
1  1
32  1
14  2
35  3
14  4
17  5
2  6
35  1
21  2
23  3
26  4
29  5
3  6
16  1
20  2
31  3
16  4
33  5
27  6
25  7
33  8
29  9
13 10
7 11
20  1
20  2
16  3
12  4
16  1
15  2
15  3
28  4
8  5
1  1
29  1
4  2
33  1
1  2
36  1
8  2
28  1
1  2
17  1
27  2
28  3
30  4
5  5
32  1
34  2
29  3
3  4
23  1
6  2
27  1
11  2
36  1
13  2
27  3
35  4
19  5
18  6
10  7
26  1
11  2
9  1
32  1
15  2
32  3
29  4
26  5
34  6
24  7
26  8
17  9
13 10
17 11
12 12
27  1
12  2
13  1
10  2
11  1
29  1
28  2
3  3
36  1
25  2
27  3
16  4
14  5
10  6
21  1
8  2
14  1
18  2
23  3
7  4
11  1
18  1
15  2
23  3
31  4
25  5
34  6
16  7
31  8
25  9
4 10
13  1
23  2
33  3
35  4
19  5
14  6
4  7
9  1
7  1
32  1
9  2
5  1
29  1
16  2
25  3
24  4
6  5
5  1
20  1
15  2
1  3
8  1
14  1
33  2
33  3
32  4
0  5
24  6
35  7
2  8
27  1
33  2
12  3
32  1
23  2
12  3
26  1
32  2
13  3
9  4
1  1
32  1
29  2
32  3
18  4
29  5
16  6
33  7
30  8
36  9
24 10
11 11
30  1
20  2
11  3
17  1
6  2
7  1
26  1
20  2
11  3
1  1
28  1
34  2
29  3
33  4
11  5
5  1
32  1
27  2
29  3
34  4
4  5
13  1
4  2
21  1
19  2
13  3
31  4
17  5
27  6
10  7
22  1
34  2
22  3
6  4
21  1
10  2
35  1
7  2
21  1
8  2
19  1
24  2
3  3
12  1
10  1
3  1
26  1
0  2
1  3
31  1
25  2
15  3
36  4
28  5
35  6
33  7
34  8
1  9
6  1
20  1
16  2
17  3
5  4
36  1
14  2
0  3
16  4
18  5
28  6
12  7
13  1
12  2
23  1
31  2
36  3
12  4
12  1
32  1
22  2
23  3
8  4 *
5  1
13  1
33  2
5  3
17  1
5  2
18  1
27  2
26  3
26  4 +1
9  5
17  1
35  2
3  3
3  1
8  1
36  1
8  2
9  1
7  1
36  1
32  2
21  3
24  4
18  5
26  6
1  7
17  1
23  2
29  3
24  4
17  5
18  6
2  7
18  1
6  2
33  1
15  2
1  3
0  1
11  2
26  1
28  2
12  3
4  1
7  1
34  1
5  2
35  1
6  2
27  1
26  2
19  3
32  4
21  5
24  6
19  7
21  8
23  9
8 10
29  1
1  2
27  1
29  2
30  3
3  4
14  1
21  2
16  3
21  4
6  5
27  1
27  2
17  3
8  4
22  1
13  2
10  3
5  1
5  1
31  1
22  2
3  3
32  1
15  2
5  3
0  1
23  2
31  3
31  4
9  5
5  1
28  1
4  2
19  1
9  2
1  1
26  1
27  2
32  3
18  4
15  5
20  6
36  7
33  8
11  9
29  1
28  2
4  3
3  1
15  1
11  2
22  1
27  2
17  3
7  4
0  1
18  2
18  3
24  4
12  5
29  1
2  2
26  1
34  2
31  3
24  4
31  5
1  6
8  1
25  1
23  2
18  3
26  4
30  5
28  6
26  7
16  8
23  9
15 10
29 11
15 12
13 13
23 14
3 15
34  1
1  2
8  1
28  1
24  2
26  3
26  4
34  5
26  6
8  7
19  1
26  2
36  3
31  4
24  5
27  6
33  7
14  8
12  9
31  1
8  2
24  1
4  2
2  1
7  1
33  1
0  2
29  3
1  4
24  1
6  2
8  1
15  1
34  2
19  3
2  4 *
16  1
12  2
31  1
19  2
32  3
33  4 +1
2  5
18  1
11  2
25  1
24  2
1  3
0  1
0  2
20  3
34  4
27  5
26  6
2  7
32  1
31  2
27  3
4  4
19  1
27  2
36  3
33  4
33  5
17  6
11  7
20  1
11  2
24  1
0  2
3  3
1  1
21  1
8  2
32  1
27  2
22  3
32  4
34  5
30  6
31  7
26  8
29  9
6 10
2  1
24  1
23  2
2  3
24  1
12  2
10  1
13  1
11  2
35  1
34  2
2  3
15  1
13  2
33  3
33  4
1  5
13  1
18  2
12  3
2  1
13  1
18  2
29  3
23  4
1  5
17  1
2  2
26  1
23  2
23  3
36  4
34  5
4  6
32  1
18  2
34  3
29  4
36  5
27  6
19  7
8  8
9  1
21  1
18  2
7  3
2  1
9  1
13  1
3  2
3  1
13  1
25  2
17  3
16  4
3  5
8  1
32  1
11  2
22  1
31  2
35  3
19  4
27  5
6  6
28  1
29  2
3  3
34  1
12  2
30  1
2  2
6  1
18  1
32  2
13  3
0  4
0  5
21  6
28  7
17  8
30  9
32 10
1 11
24  1
25  2
10  3
1  1
4  1
36  1
18  2
13  3
20  4
29  5
2  6
32  1
20  2
9  3
16  1
28  2
35  3
2  4
10  1
26  1
1  2
14  1
32  2
12  3
8  1
35  1
0  2
32  3
3  4 *
8  1
33  1
8  2
10  1
7  1
18  1
1  2
4  1
2  1
2  1
9  1
3  1
13  1
27  2
29  3
31  4 +1
8  5
31  1
16  2
10  3
5  1
33  1
5  2
32  1

I will have to take a look Bayes would be easier if you had marked each win in ascending numbers 1--11.

Quote from: Bayes on January 16, 2013, 05:40:00 PM
I don't get this -

4-----07--dozen 1
18
33
26
4-----04--dozen 1
19
33
28
7-----04--dozen 1 TRIGGER
33
7**
29
17
14
14 -- shouldn't you have bet HERE?
29
10----06--dozen 1-----WIN STEP 1 FOR 7 ON 1--(01)

Yes Bayes I just highlight where the dozen comes to rest. Once it passes 4 its an automatic winner. And yes the two fours is the trigger.

I take it for granted because its so in my system. Sorry for any confusion.

21
19
29
36
7
7
16
12
20
2
7
11
6**
34
24
35
12----04--dozen 1
8**
23
24
22
22
10----05--dozen 1
27
18
28
15
21
17
28
4-----08--dozen 1
30
1
8**
16
36
13
2-----04--dozen 1
24
4**
30
17
18
31
1-----05--dozen 1
29
27
25
3-----04--dozen 1
7
1
18
33
7
35
11
1
17
14
9
19
6
4
35
6
6**
19
34
0
26
30
13
35
16
11----09--dozen 1
7**
27
13
35
13
7-----05--dozen 1
12
7
10
24
26
5
22
24
6
25
10
31
35
10
30
13
6
26
29
3
15
2**
21
14
29
9-----04--dozen 1
14
7**
34
14
20
3-----04--dozen 1
14
30
0
28
15
36
5-----07--dozen 1
28
23
34
23
15
14
29
35
1-----09--dozen 1
0
23
24
16
17
20
12----07--dozen 1
19
11
36
16
12
28
9
27
5
7
18
28
4**
22----150
24
17
28
23
30
14
2-----08--dozen 1
27
29
32
22
16
36
20
1-----08--dozen 1
4
16
4
28
27
5
14
0
7**
25
18
29
18
34
19
23
19
11----09--dozen 1
3
3**
35
35
20
27
10----05--dozen 1
16
4
16
10**
15
17
26
24
33
17
19
33
16
9-----10--dozen 1
5
16
30
13
16
2
28
13
8
19
3
21
4
14
2
5
12
11
32
7
35
11**
20
17
16
14
2-----05--dozen 1
35
7
20
18
3**
24
30
31
30
17
26
23
10----08--dozen 1
30
30
6
16
10
26
27
8
28
4
9
24
22
10
3
20
3
21
3
3
7**
17
36
33
17
22
33
16
10----08--dozen 1
7
8
11
9
26
25
7**
36
25
24
29
34
35
28
2-----08--dozen 1
27
36
24
29
21
18
5-----07--dozen 1
14
34
17
19
27
17
3-----07--dozen 1
5
27
12
12
6**
19
18
18
30
15
22
4-----07--dozen 1
18
33
26
4-----04--dozen 1
19
33
28
7-----04--dozen 1
33
7**
29
17
14
14
29
10----06--dozen 1-----WIN STEP 1 FOR 7 ON 1--(01)
30
23
20
19
26
9-----05--dozen 1
36
31
5**
33
16
16
26
21
20
29
33
21
2-----10--dozen 1
33
27
26
4-----04--dozen 1
27
19
30
25
26
35
22
7-----08--dozen 1
26
17
23
23
7-----05--dozen 1
30
18
24
21
30
18
36
30
19
9-----10--dozen 1
9**
16
19
32
32
21
18
1-----07--dozen 1
7
12
4
24
4
20
1**
22
20
21
7-----04--dozen 1
26
23
15
21
0
27
9-----07--dozen 1
29
1**
34
14
36
4-----04--dozen 1
34
0
28
1-----04--dozen 1
15
0
14
15
30
14
28
0
9-----09--dozen 1-----WIN STEP 1 FOR 7 ON 1--(02)
27
33
9**
22
22
35
16
17
4-----06--dozen 1
13
24
26
28
16
18
2-----07--dozen 1
18
9**
20
35
0
13
17
26
15
12----08--dozen 1
6
34
36
6
9
4
10
1**
27
21
14
13
35
21
24
0
31
25
14
32
10----13--dozen 1
17
36
22
34
12----05--dozen 1
8
22
2**
27
32
13
31
17
21
32
29
15
28
19
14
12----13--dozen 1
6
36
4
3
12**
20
24
36
12----04--dozen 1
24
10
16
0
22
25
32
9-----06--dozen 1
22
27
28
20
1-----05--dozen 1
33
8**
28
35
18
14
14
33
22
21
24
31
29
8-----12--dozen 1
10**
18
18
14
8-----04--dozen 1
29
16
10
27
28
7
11**
29
13
14
4-----04--dozen 1
20
32
25
35
9-----05--dozen 1-----WIN STEP 1 FOR 7 ON 1--(03)
16
11
14
9
26
29
6**
16
36
33
12----04--dozen 1
24
13
30
24
26
13
22
9-----08--dozen 1
12**
22
34
17
18
32
35
1-----07--dozen 1
3**
15
23
16
25
12----05--dozen 1
3**
23
21
17
14
30
7-----06--dozen 1
15
13
23
23
25
0
21
18
12----09--dozen 1
27
23
34
24
8-----05--dozen 1
3
0
8
11
29
11
6
5**
18
26
24
29
17
18
26
28
13
22
6-----11--dozen 1
3
16
14
0
17
35
7-----06--dozen 1
29
26
25
25
17
19
35
36
15
13
26
13
25
23
33
0
17
10----18--dozen 1
4
5
36
12
19
11
11
35
1**
0
32
22
20
17
27
17
27
28
20
8-----11--dozen 1
33
2
18
0
1**
14
18
18
14
7-----05--dozen 1
30
18
32
25
29
19
5-----07--dozen 1
36
31
33
25
26
28
29
5-----08--dozen 1
0
8
32
1
11**
17
27
23
35
18
7-----06--dozen 1
3
20
4
6**
28
36
25
11----04--dozen 1
1
11**
25
26
36
8-----04--dozen 1
29
29
25
24
9-----05--dozen 1-----WIN STEP 1 FOR 7 ON 1--(04)
18
19
16
9-----04--dozen 1
30
32
19
26
17
0
9-----07--dozen 1
15
29
4
1
4**
0
31
35
5-----04--dozen 1
24
32
4
6
12
29
28
8
21
10
35
32
3**
17
15
32
10----04--dozen 1
20
18
31
30
27
24
12----07--dozen 1-----WIN STEP 1 FOR 7 ON 1--(05)
26
14
35
36
16
13
31
7-----08--dozen 1
16
25
11
30
28
15
7-----07--dozen 1
4
4
30
29
4**
36
28
22
4-----04--dozen 1
4
11
16
14
7
24
30
8
32
8
18
9
33
4
9**
33
20
26
1-----04--dozen 1
5
16
21
8**
20
13
19
12----04--dozen 1
21
22
6
23
1
8**
16
17
32
0----STEP 2 LOSS DUE TO ZERO
18
14
6-----07--dozen 1
7**
32
29
18
28
33
31
9-----07--dozen 1-----WIN STEP 3 FOR 7 ON 1--(06)
33
10**
15
24
27
2-----04--dozen 1
18
19
7**
26
26
26
11----04--dozen 1
19
8
22
20
9**
28
30
24
3-----04--dozen 1
0
7
20
24
1
7
16
17
11
12**
15
24
24
33
3-----05--dozen 1-----WIN STEP 2 FOR 7 ON 1--(07)
25
23
3
20
23
2
4**
20
19
35
34
36
0
18
28
21
7-----10--dozen 1
12
11
31
30
12
34
12
23
10
4
36
4**
33
15
33
7-----04--dozen 1
12
9
11
21
22
10
26
1**
20
36
14
36
28
8-----06--dozen 1
4
21
1**
20
0
23
33
6-----05--dozen 1
31
6**
14
25
18
34
10----05--dozen 1
27
20
15
8-----04--dozen 1
2**
13
31
17
28
7-----05--dozen 1
28
23
29
27
17
29
28
27
1-----09--dozen 1
29
35
35
15
30
18
15
30
12----09--dozen 1
1**
32
14
35
14
17
2-----06--dozen 1
35
21
23
26
29
3-----06--dozen 1
16
20
31
16
33
27
25
33
29
13
7-----11--dozen 1
20
20
16
12----04--dozen 1
16
15
15
28
8-----05--dozen 1
1
29
4
33
1
36
8
28
1**
17
27
28
30
5-----05--dozen 1
32
34
29
3-----04--dozen 1
23
6
27
11**
36
13
27
35
19
18
10-----07--dozen 1
26
11
9**
32
15
32
29
26
34
24
26
17
13
17
12----12--dozen 1
27
12
13
10
11
29
28
3**
36
25
27
16
14
10----06--dozen 1
21
8**
14
18
23
7-----04--dozen 1
11**
18
15
23
31
25
34
16
31
25
4-----10--dozen 1
13
23
33
35
19
14
4-----07--dozen 1
9
7
32
9
5**
29
16
25
24
6-----05--dozen 1
5
20
15
1
8**
14
33
33
32
0
24
35
2-----08--dozen 1
27
33
12
32
23
12**
26
32
13
9-----04--dozen 1
1
32
29
32
18
29
16
33
30
36
24
11----11--dozen 1
30
20
11
17
6
7
26
20
11
1**
28
34
29
33
11----05--dozen 1
5
32
27
29
34
4-----05--dozen 1
13
4**
21
19
13
31
17
27
10----07--dozen 1
22
34
22
6-----04--dozen 1
21
10
35
7
21
8
19
24
3
12
10
3
26
0
1**
31
25
15
36
28
35
33
34
1-----09--dozen 1
6**
20
16
17
5-----04--dozen 1
36
14
0
16
18
28
12----07--dozen 1
13
12**
23
31
36
12----04--dozen 1
12**
32
22
23
8-----04--dozen 1
5
13
33
5
17
5**
18
27
26
26
9-----05--dozen 1-----WIN STEP 1 FOR 7 ON 1--(08)
17
35
3
3
8
36
8
9
7**
36
32
21
24
18
26
1-----07--dozen 1
17
23
29
24
17
18
2-----07--dozen 1
18
6
33
15
1
0
11
26
28
12
4
7
34
5
35
6**
27
26
19
32
21
24
19
21
23
8-----10--dozen 1
29
1**
27
29
30
3-----04--dozen 1
14
21
16
21
6-----05--dozen 1
27
27
17
8-----04--dozen 1
22
13
10
5
5
31
22
3
32
15
5**
0
23
31
31
9-----05--dozen 1
5
28
4
19
9
1**
26
27
32
18
15
20
36
33
11----09--dozen 1
29
28
4
3
15
11**
22
27
17
7-----04--dozen 1
0
18
18
24
12----05--dozen 1
29
2**
26
34
31
24
31
1-----06--dozen 1
8**
25
23
18
26
30
28
26
16
23
15
29
15
13
23
3-----15--dozen 1
34
1
8**
28
24
26
26
34
26
8-----07--dozen 1
19
26
36
31
24
27
33
14
12----09--dozen 1
31
8
24
4
2
7**
33
0
29
1-----04--dozen 1
24
6
8**
15
34
19
2-----04--dozen 1
16
12**
31
19
32
33
2-----05--dozen 1-----WIN STEP 1 FOR 7 ON 1--(09)
18
11
25
24
1**
0
0
20
34
27
26
2-----07--dozen 1
32
31
27
4-----04--dozen 1
19
27
36
33
33
17
11----07--dozen 1
20
11
24
0
3
1
21
8**
32
27
22
32
34
30
31
26
29
6-----10--dozen 1
2
24
23
2
24
12
10
13
11
35
34
2**
15
13
33
33
1-----05--dozen 1
13
18
12
2**
13
18
29
23
1-----05--dozen 1
17
2**
26
23
23
36
34
4-----06--dozen 1
32
18
34
29
36
27
19
8-----08--dozen 1
9
21
18
7
2
9
13
3
3**
13
25
17
16
3-----05--dozen 1
8
32
11**
22
31
35
19
27
6-----06--dozen 1
28
29
3
34
12
30
2
6**
18
32
13
0
0
21
28
17
30
32
1-----11--dozen 1
24
25
10
1
4**
36
18
13
20
29
2-----06--dozen 1
32
20
9**
16
28
35
2-----04--dozen 1
10
26
1
14
32
12
8**
35
0
32
3-----04--dozen 1
8
33
8
10
7
18
1
4
2
2
9
3**
13
27
29
31
8-----05--dozen 1-----WIN STEP 1 FOR 7 ON 1--(10)
31
16
10
5
33
5
32

These are the first 10 Bayes is this enough??

Quote from: Bayes on January 16, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
Not necessarily, they could be any numbers, I just want to compare your results with those that the program generates. If you've been working through the 1M actuals file from the beginning then I could use that - just let me know how many units/bets you made in the first few hundred spins, that should be enough. Or I could post the output here and you could compare with your results.

Okay I've got 50 odd results for Dozen 1 on your actuals. Keep in mind im a technophobe. So I will try and copy paste them to here. Give me a while.

Quote from: Bayes on January 16, 2013, 04:04:09 PM
John, I'm just finalizing the simulation for 7 on 1 which takes account of the zero (that pesky zero is a pain in the a*** for coders as well as players); could you do me a favour and upload some of your tested spins? I want to check that the code generates the same results that you've got.

Cheers! 

Hi Bayes are you referring to the tests I've done against your 1 million actuals?

Quote from: Ophis on January 16, 2013, 02:03:41 PM
So which one is it John?
SO.. u got HG that only works for you. Marvelous. Good Job.

It won't only work for me Ophis. It works for those who can stay with it. Now how many truly can?

I mean look at the trouble you and Albalaha have gone to to gift wrap a Hg. Now be honest  how many takers have you got so far. 5, 10, 15.

If you can even find me 10 people who can truly stay with a method and follow the right procedure. Youve got 10 winners.

Some may win more than others. But win they will. The mind gives out first Ophis. You surely know that.

Quote from: Ophis on January 16, 2013, 01:49:30 PM
And stop deleting your posts John because its breaking the forum...

Breaking what?  I will work out the mm for PB and give it to you later.

Regardless 7 ON 1 is a LIVE WHEEL method. And with this H.A.R voodoo as you call it im 945/0

The point is even if there were 50 losses average in a million spin sample. I HAVE TO LAND DEAD ON TOP of one of them. No easy thing.

What im saying here is the power of H.A.R couldnt be shown to maximum effect with PB. The odds are very small.

But with 7 ON 1 its another story. If bayes only hit 30 odd losses in a million. I expect to go no worse than 15. By the time I've played 10,000 games.

And being 945/0 already. This is looking more than likely.

Quote from: albalaha on January 16, 2013, 11:12:29 AM
JL,
    The time that u need to make a bet in real casino we can make 50 bets in playtech. Come up with anything even remotely capable of doing like this and then compare.

Yes but 50 what. When im playing for myself I can make over 50 British pounds in an hour.

If you give me a 10,000 unit bankroll. Any number of methods could be made supernova proof.

This isn't the objective for me on these forums. The idea is to come up with an affordable compromise. For players who can't play online and don't have alot of money to start with.

Quote from: albalaha on January 16, 2013, 08:42:48 AM
If nothing can win in long run, are we here to just tell stories? This is a technique of proportional risk and we are not risking 1000s to win 1 unit. If somebody has anything even remotely equal to this, please come forward and enlighten all. Many are saying it is not earning enough to be played. I ask one serious question, if we play 7 on 1 with 1 cent bets on bv, it will take more than a month to earn Euro 1. If someone is dreaming to win millions of spins with 100 units in pocket, go and daydream about that.

Albahala nobody is saying this doesn't win.We are saying its use in the real world with the average gambler is unrealistic.

The time and size of BR required mean it will stay locked for use on an RNG for small gains.

7 On 1 is not that slow. I can get 5 games an hour alot of the time just from swapping tables. And its now 945/0. Live this method is on its own all things considered.

Quote from: Juiced91 on January 16, 2013, 07:03:00 AM
Okay. So in 3million spins you won 105000 units.

that's 1 unit every 29 spins. It had a max Drawdown of 8000+.

At BV you can do about 3-4000 spins a night so that's a 103-137 units a night.

Now if you play with cents that's 1Euro for a whole evening. 80Euro drawdown for 1euro.

So to make this remotely worthwhile it would have to be played with euros meaning you need a 10000euro bank.

Everyone said the Holy grail would be expensive but i think that's a bit insane.

What this means Juiced91 is this so called HG. isn't playable for the average Joe in the everyday world.

And again the irony here is you have this huge drawdown. While everyones attacking me for a mere 242 units risk.

Makes no sense at all.

Quote from: VLS on January 14, 2013, 04:03:27 PM
Perhaps: "Hybrid Positive Progression"

Having traits from Positive (rise on a win), as well as negative (rise to recover only).

Multi level staking systems can be very rewarding. Given that you have a bet selection that delivers a common breakdown.

Taking advantage of these common streaks makes sense. Then dropping one or two levels. Until you lose. On more mortal methods. This kind of MM makes the difference.

Quote from: XXVV on January 16, 2013, 02:07:20 AM
@JL
You are being a little hard on humanity. Please refer the Pareto Rule which is the infamous but ubiquitous 80:20 ratio which finds its way into roulette as well.

Hello XXVV good to see you on the forum. Arr maybe, 80/20 that's being generous lol. But yes it breaks down to a minority.

Quote from: esoito on January 15, 2013, 10:21:49 PM
The 7-day wonder seems to have died.

Usual story -- burst of initial enthusiasm that peters out when the "next best thing" comes along. 

That's the human mind for you Esoito, that's why the game will always be there for us persistent few.

Its the natural order of things. The elite 5% reap the rewards. While the masses 95% make it possible.

This breaks down in all of life. And its no different in roulette. If everybody had what it takes. Id have no living.

Just as if everyone were rich thered be no need to work.

Its the way it has to be.

RESULTS UPDATE FOR PATTERN BREAKER FOR 15/01/2013

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 6,500

TOTAL GAMES WON 5,931

TOTAL GAMES LOST 569

STRIKERATE 10.42/1

BALANCE=6,076 UNITS PLUS

DOUBLE LOSSES=9

Over the last 500 games the strikerate has come up since I have been playing only HIGH AND LOW. So for that sample I am running at around 12/1. But over the vast sample of 6,500 games im at 10.42/1

Double losses remain a seldom event. And the method remains a solid profit grinder. When the three tenets of success are in place. Next update at 7,000 games played.