Eight Things I Detest At The Bac Table

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1). Wagering against others that are winning with a verbal (at least loud enough to hear it) "He/They can't keep winning".

2). "Excuse me, how is this game played".

3). Dealer swipes losing wagers really quick with no eye contact while continuously looking at the felt.

4). Players convincing each other B/P because of some elaborate or complicated pattern they invented, etc.

5). People that have their heads down and scanning the table for highest wagering person or majority of people or the singular person winning most all hands, etc., and at the very last second wagering opposite with usually an extremely small wager.

6). Those people arguing with dealer or pit personnel about drawing 3rd cards.  Happens frequently with 2 card values of 4s and 5s for both sides or when banker has 3 and players 3rd card was 8, etc.  (Of course they are wrong and totally oblivious of the rules)

7). Players that blame the dealer on losing hands.

Number Eight). Players commenting before the hand and then a post commentary after the hand.  Especially the ones that lost the hand and the post commentary contradicts their beforehand verbal reasoning.  These are usually the players that point to the scoreboard to show their super classroom teaching abilities.
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1). Wagering against others that are winning with a verbal (at least loud enough to hear it) "He/They can't keep winning".

Never experienced a thing like that, but I agree with you.


2). "Excuse me, how is this game played".

LOL, it happened to us a lot of times. If the question doesn't come out in the middle of a winning sequence it won't bother us.

3). Dealer swipes losing wagers really quick with no eye contact while continuously looking at the felt.

Agree.

4). Players convincing each other B/P because of some elaborate or complicated pattern they invented, etc.

Yep, really annoying unless our strategy corresponds to the same bet we place on the felt. 

5). People that have their heads down and scanning the table for highest wagering person or majority of people or the singular person winning most all hands, etc., and at the very last second wagering opposite with usually an extremely small wager.

Agree.

6). Those people arguing with dealer or pit personnel about drawing 3rd cards.  Happens frequently with 2 card values of 4s and 5s for both sides or when banker has 3 and players 3rd card was 8, etc.  (Of course they are wrong and totally oblivious of the rules)

Agree.

7). Players that blame the dealer on losing hands.

Strongly agree. It's totally unacceptable, especially when some players keep saying that a specific dealer bring them "bad luck".
Good news, so why not starting to bet the opposite side then winning the house?  :)


Number Eight). Players commenting before the hand and then a post commentary after the hand.  Especially the ones that lost the hand and the post commentary contradicts their beforehand verbal reasoning.  These are usually the players that point to the scoreboard to show their super classroom teaching abilities.

It's natural to make some comments before and after SOME hands are dealt.
What is "innatural" is a winning or losing player making a lesson after each hand dealt by taking the position of a world class scientist with a phD in baccarat.
So I agree.

I'll add my personal #9:

9) Dealers making mistakes almost always at casino's favor.

Our long term personal experience has registered mistakes favoring players 2% of the times and casinos 98% of the times.
This is a sure statistical significant ratio, so keep your eyes wide open about the destiny of your bets (and correct side bets payements)

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Good list. I concur with most.

1). Wagering against others that are winning with a verbal (at least loud enough to hear it) "He/They can't keep winning".

     I see this occasionally but typically the player doesn't say anything. They just wager quietly. It doesn't bother me personally if others choose to go against my selection. "If" I absolutely "Must" wager against the majority on a long streak(Because my logic suggests it's a very high EV+ placement), then I will. One of the reasons I'm hesitant to do so is that I also consider: "Well, since the majority have a different opinion" maybe they are seeing something different that I have not considered. This is when it is good to know the others at the table and simply ask them what /why they are making that selection,..etc.

 "IF" I still feel a need to go with my selection and at a MIDI table I will motion for dealer to turn the cards,..etc. Obviously, I don't celebrate if I win. I probably win about 50% of these situations.


2). "Excuse me, how is this game played".

     Just last week I sat down at a table (with my pre-made Bac Notebook/ tri-color ink pen), and recorded a few items prior to placing three bets(winning 3) across about 20 dealt hands. So I guess the player next to me assumed I was organized, older than him et al, and so must be experienced/more knowledgeable,..etc. Of course I could have just as quickly lost 3 bets in a row.

He asks me "what are you looking for"?
I state a couple things I had noted/ to be polite I then ask him what he likes to note. His response: "I don't know I just started studying the game yesterday." He later indicated a starting buy in of 1015 was now only $45 remaining (at a $50 min table).


6). Those people arguing with dealer or pit personnel about drawing 3rd cards.  Happens frequently with 2 card values of 4s and 5s for both sides or when banker has 3 and players 3rd card was 8, etc.  (Of course they are wrong and totally oblivious of the rules)


I see that occasionally. Often when B has a 2-card five total/ players don't understand the rules when P has drawn a third card (4-7).  Most seem to be aware of the 38special but a few object/try to start something.

    *Somewhat related:
 I recently placed a wager ($1440) on B and the dealer signaled for a Tie. A player on the other end ( had just busted a couple hands prior), and I guess decided to relax a couple mins before departing. He then signaled to the dealer they needed to draw a 3rd card. The dealer did and I lost. The player was correct as the dealer indeed should have drawn. The player received a "WTH" look from most of the others at the table although my wager was the only one affected. He appeared to feel horrible immediately afterward and said "Im sorry don't know what I was thinking". He immediately apologized again as he departed the pit.  I wasn't angry, though a little annoyed (as I correctly lost the wager). I felt for him. I played with him two days later/he was still apologizing. I assured him no big deal as I should have lost anyway,...etc. He seemed like a great guy and just wasn't paying attention/ stated what he was thinking before realizing the impact.,..etc.


4). Players convincing each other B/P because of some elaborate or complicated pattern they invented, etc.

     One can hear all kinds of "crackpot" ideas while at the Bacs table.



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