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Holy Grail: Randomness can be beaten even in the long run-II

Started by Albalaha, April 25, 2020, 09:33:17 AM

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Albalaha

Yes!!!
        I am onto something that could be termed as a Holy Grail for casino gambling for games like roulette, baccarat or any other game with fixed odds and payouts and slight house edge. I started to test it with the worst reported cases of EC in roulette and baccarat. Then I created a few hypothetical cases with 2SD, 3SD, 4SD and 5SD or even worse going below mean, for as long as 1700 continuous trials. I have beaten all, so far. I won't say that there will be no session where I would need to surrender but even the worst would not take away more than 300 chips, in total.
          In manual testings, it took hours and even days of mine to compute a tough session but now I have a fully coded tracker(Still working to better it a bit, if possible), so I can evaluate any session in a few seconds.
  Remember: It doesn't win the worst session while it is still worst but in long run when things go closer to mean by a predefined approach that I can play in all over betting and can swiftly win any average or below average session.
             I have reasons to believe that I finally have something that beats the randomness delivering extreme variance alongwith the house edge. Please provide me any EC w/l string from real sessions that should make me surrender with -300 finally.
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Albalaha

Just tested this dreaded session of EC and finally won a net profit. It has 141 Losses vs 94 wins i.e. -2.65 SD
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8OR9

If your worst drawdown is 300 units, then your bankroll would have to be very large....if your unit bet size  is $ 10  then you would need a bankroll of $ 3,000.

In baccarat ( where people bet larger ) if your unit size is $ $ 50 then you would need a bankroll of $ 15,000.

A unit size of $ 100 would need a bankroll of $ 30,000

Albalaha

Hmm. Rather 600 units to start with. We never know if a supertricky session may come in the beginning before it doubles.
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6th-sense

Nice...no point in giving spin numbers though there?s no point..

It won?t give anyone anything beneficial except the results of test you give..

So I don?t see the point

argalim147

Quote from: Albalaha on April 25, 2020, 09:48:40 AM
Just tested this dreaded session of EC and finally won a net profit. It has 141 Losses vs 94 wins i.e. -2.65 SD
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this is easy beaten by 10 steps marty

Albalaha

Quotethis is easy beaten by 10 steps marty
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Hmm. Marty can beat anything with no limits. 10 step marty will bust in the 10th successive loss and we know we can even get a 25 step loss. No point in playing such rotten ideas. I told my bankroll is only 300 units and I have faced world's worst known cases so far.

QuoteSo I don't see the point
I do not see any point in any other discussion where everybody is churning failed ideas. Even after decades of being on gambling forums, people still come up with 10 step martingale. How silly is that? Just think that I am making a repository of worst looking sessions of all sorts.
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argalim147

Quote from: Albalaha on April 26, 2020, 03:55:37 AM
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Hmm. Marty can beat anything with no limits. 10 step marty will bust in the 10th successive loss and we know we can even get a 25 step loss. No point in playing such rotten ideas. I told my bankroll is only 300 units and I have faced world's worst known cases so far.
                     I do not see any point in any other discussion where everybody is churning failed ideas. Even after decades of being on gambling forums, people still come up with 10 step martingale. How silly is that? Just think that I am making a repository of worst looking sessions of all sorts.

This is also beaten by 5 step martingale which start to work after 5 virtual losses.

Albalaha

Quote from: argalim147 on April 26, 2020, 05:39:28 AM
This is also beaten by 5 step martingale which start to work after 5 virtual losses.
Hmm. You are trying to do curve fitting upon a session. To get 5 successive losses to put your bet, at times, you might need to wait entire day and whenever you get an opportunity, still loose. I am talking of an all over playing idea where neither a 5 step martingale after 5 virtual losses nor a 10 or even 20 steps martingale will work. Had such basic things been sufficient to beat the humongous probabilities associated with the game, this would have ended 400 years ago.
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argalim147

Quote from: Albalaha on April 26, 2020, 07:49:16 AM
Hmm. You are trying to do curve fitting upon a session. To get 5 successive losses to put your bet, at times, you might need to wait entire day and whenever you get an opportunity, still loose. I am talking of an all over playing idea where neither a 5 step martingale after 5 virtual losses nor a 10 or even 20 steps martingale will work. Had such basic things been sufficient to beat the humongous probabilities associated with the game, this would have ended 400 years ago.
Can you beat this?

LLLLLLLLLLLLWLLLLLLLLLLWLLLLLLLLLLWLLLLLLLLLLWLLLLLLLLLLWLLLLW ?

Albalaha

Quote from: argalim147 on April 26, 2020, 09:26:45 AM
Can you beat this?

LLLLLLLLLLLLWLLLLLLLLLLWLLLLLLLLLLWLLLLLLLLLLWLLLLLLLLLLWLLLLW ?

I told very clearly that the worst can not be beaten by itself but it can be sustained and later won too. Say, it has 50 spins with 6/50 hit rate. If we get 100 more trials ahead of this with say 47/100 wins there, it should win easily. Trying to win 6/50 in itself will be a laughstock and only martingale with unlimited chips and unlimited table limit could be the only way.
Put this L/W vertically, add about 47 wins in next 100 trials, I would love to try it . By the way, I have done even worse in my https://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/an-eyeopener-challenge-and-query/ challenge already. It had 60/200 in the beginning of a very long haul session that won finally.
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Albalaha

#2            153 LOSSES VS 106 WINS

SOMEHOW LIKE WHAT AGRALIM WANTED: BEATEN AT THE LAST WIN. OVERALL -2.4 SD. -5.46 SD IN THE FIRST 50 TRIALS WITH 5/60 WINS. KIND OF VIRTUAL LIMITS. THE SESSION HAD REGULAR UPS AND DOWNS THEREAFTER TOO. NO PATCHY OR CORRECTIVE WINS.
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sean

I love your ideas and have been developing my game around MM too.
Based on your latest MM,
What is your biggest bet? Or what is your maximum bet capped at (how many units?)?
What is your maximum drawdown?
How many units do you win (on average) in every 100 trials?

Albalaha

In my latest MM,
         the max bet that i have seen has been 24 units.
Maximum drawdown below 300
Average win in an average session should be 20-40 units.
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argalim147

Quote from: Albalaha on April 26, 2020, 05:21:13 PM

         
Maximum drawdown below 300


Its big enough to have a chance not to recover at all.