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[deepspace]

Hello,


First i'd like to apologise, for my "not so perfect" English, but i will give my try. I have decided to finally write my ideas, and to share my knowledge about roulette on this forum.

Before i continue i'd like to say a couple of words about me.

I'm from Macedonia, and my first experience with roulette was in 2001. Nothing special, but i was so fascinated with the game that i spent days and days just playing roulette for fun.

After some time i stopped playing roulette , but i never forgot about it. All the time something was telling me, that in this game it's possible to win, there has to be a way to win every time you play it.

In 2008 i went back to the roulette table, and started to play for real money in local casinos . I started to win some money, and played with some strategies that i learned from other people, but soon all the strategies that i implemented began to fail. None of them was good enough to make secure winnings.I played about 1 year, tried different ideas, some of them gave very good resullts, but it was not very safe to play in that way. So i said to myself, i have to take a break, and find a better way to win.

In 2011 i was arrested and i spend 3 years in jail. I was released from prison recently.
During the time in jail, i bought a cell phone, some of you would say, wtf a cell phone in jail, but that's true, in my country it is very common for the prisoners to have a smuggled cell phone (LOL).Some of the prison guards are making good money selling cell phones to the prisoners. It's not aloved , but who cares about it .that's the truth.

During the time in prison, i downloaded Roulette from a casino site, a mobile version, and started to play for fun, but most importantly, i read everything from roulette forums, and i saw some really good ideas while some of them were not worth at all. So i started to make spins and took notes, when a particular number would hit. I analyzed that every day, since i had plenty of time for that , 3 years. I learned how to avoid sleeping numbers, and with time i became better and better with my theory on predicting which number will come out, so my ideas started to make more and more sense. With time i realized that there is a pattern in the algorithm when a particular number will hit .
Even if it is a sleeping number, it will hit in a short time.

Soon after i got released from prison i continued my work at home, but there is something else that i have noticed.

There is a difference when playing with play money and real money, but the algorithm is the same and the out-coming numbers are the same. So why we can win with play money, but if we play in the same way with real money we lose ?!!!

It does not work with real money , unless you have some knowledge about it.

With time even the best strategy will fail when playing with real money, and i will tell you why.

In the beginning when you play with real money you won't notice any changes , it is all the same like with play money, but after some time, during your play, your luck and strategy is leaving you, and the casino wins.

I noticed that behavior on roulette earlier, but at that point i did not know why is that so.

And than,one day i read something about casinos attaching a log file to analyze your way of playing, if you cross the mark of 1 hour on playing roulette. If you play less than an hour, your play will stay anonymous, because the casinos have no interest attaching log files on players that play less then 1 hour during a 48 hour period. So this means that if you play less than 1 hour on one casino and than take a break for 2 days , the casino has no clue what's your play style.But if you cross that time, a log file is attached to your account, and from this point the software begins to work against you . I'm speaking for on-line casinos.

I started implementing that knowledge in my ideas, and to improve myself on predicting a particular number on roulette, but when you play on single number, there is no difference on that. The out-coming numbers and the algorithm are still the same .

On the Internet i found a software that predicts single numbers, but i don't know nothing about that . i downloaded and need to chk..what is about.

I don't use any software, all of that is in my head, and to be honest , i don't know how to explain exactly how im doing that.

Since im released from prison, i played many times. Every time i started with a bankroll of 1000 dollars, and i'd double my bankroll, and i never boosted my bankroll.

So, i made a video and uploaded it on YouTube. During the play i was not so concentrated on the game, the results are much better then on this video.

Watch the video, and comment here pls. I would like to hear your opinions and suggestions .

Watch the video and we will talk about my method , and to be clear , im not here to sell anything.

If needed, and on your request, i can make another video. the entire play, until i double my bankroll. and you can see and watch the entire process .

Until now , the results are: 173 times i double my bankroll from 1000 to 2000, and  0 loses

The link to my youtube video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcJ-iSx6mtI

Cheers!

[alrelax]

Another system with zero losses!!!  I am on the wrong side of 'living life'!

I will pay for this guy to go back to prison, I will send a guard a cell phone with a baccarat app preloaded, I will juice the guard, I will provide a full commissary account and the guy will retire nicely when he teaches me zero losses when he gets out.

My phone number is 1-800-Live-Easy.

[deepspace]

I'm not saying that you can not lose , i just sayed what are my result until now .

Watch the video and than speak

[alrelax]

, and  0 loses



Cheers!

My English is poor too, I was raised in the Bronx.  But 0 loses mean, you never lost.

[NathanDetroit]

So much for fiction .

Reality: Seasoned players  accept a Win goal between 15 and 20 %  The  higher the bankroll the lower the win goal.Loss limit of original bankroll  a comfortable 25 %.


Professional players have always one foot pointed towards the door.



For recreational purposes only. Play at your own risk.

[deepspace]

i know that, and you don't need to play until you double your bankroll.
I'm just telling what are my TEST results until now.
Maybe i will lose on the test tomorrow, i.d.k

[Rinzler]

You don't need to play until you double your bankroll.

Eventually, you'll have to double it just to survive?

[XXVV]

Reality: Seasoned players  accept a Win goal between 15 and 20 %  The  higher the bankroll the lower the win goal.Loss limit of original bankroll  a comfortable 25 %.

Professional players have always one foot pointed towards the door.

Thanks Deep Space for turning the conversation back to roulette. Also thanks for your story. I really like narratives. I wish you every success.

ND has stated the truth based on a lifetime of empirical testing, and this is the distillation of vast experience and once again, thanks to him for this cool summary.

Roulette in live wheel play can be beaten, and is beaten by professionals, but it needs the professionalism to see through the smoke and mirrors.

The working parameters are stated so precisely here by ND and the exit strategy is to keep an eye on the timing to get out of the building to disburse your profits with reason and a cool head.

There are various techniques that can be played and some are more efficient than others, smart bets.

Nevertheless the truth is that you will lose sometimes and as with any money professional whether trading, dealing or banking, there will be losses, and how those losses are mitigated and handled is a key to ultimate success. As with all matters, outcomes are cyclic, and the psychology of handling strings of wins, and strings of losses, must be mastered.

I am aware of several forms of roulette but personally prefer to avoid internet RNG as results can vary from location to location and of course all the programs are designed to beat and cheat the player, sooner or later. In your chosen location DS the parameters you have set may work, at this time anyway, but when you attempt to withdraw profit unless that in itself is carefully managed you may encounter problems. I do not like this because you do not have control.

My way is to play preferably live in house at a small trusted local casino where the casino staff are known to me.

Lots of relatively small gains can accumulate over many months, and there will be cycles of loss to keep the casino happy. Nevertheless it is demonstrable that the player can achieve a net positive edge over the house ( this still does not eliminate losses from time to time) and with intelligent money management a positive cash flow can be achieved from roulette.

These strategies used are not applicable to other casino games but I can state that from time to time I use roulette profit to play slots and if the favoured machine ( I have three in the entire casino) is in the right cycle profit s can be leveraged. This is smart application of reading the cycles of play in roulette and suitable slots that pay large jackpots with a hierarchy of smaller more accessible jackpots. Playing with 'free' money' is a key, as is timing of entry and exit, as well as suitable stepped leverages on unit values. The strategy is not complex but has been developed over the years by empirical testing and lots of patience.

That is my narrative.

[RouletteKEY]

So much for fiction .

Reality: Seasoned players  accept a Win goal between 15 and 20 % The  higher the bankroll the lower the win goal.Loss limit of original bankroll  a comfortable 25 %.


Professional players have always one foot pointed towards the door.



For recreational purposes only. Play at your own risk.

And from beyond DeepSpace good ole Blue Eyes enters as the voice of reason

solid...as usual

thanks ND

[Mike]

Oh cripes, another round of hackneyed cliches from the clueless.

In the first place, no online  casino tracks your playing style and works out the patterns, that would be absurd, because (a) they would be merely guessing, and anyone could change their pattern of play at any time, and (b) it's totally unnecessary because all they have to do to cheat you is to spin a number which isn't covered by your bet.

And "one foot pointed toward the door" is just "hit and run" style of play, or "quit while you're ahead", which is so ridiculous that it beggars belief. Quitting while ahead only works once. Having got ahead, quit, and never set foot inside a casino again.

[deepspace]

Thanks XXVV for your answer, nice to hear something positives.

I want to mention here, that I never said that I have found the HOLY GRAIL.
I'm just sharing my experience with you , and I'm aware that there will be days when I will lose.

Here is another video from last night 2 hour play and +24% of my bankroll.

In my opinion, with this progression is very safe to play, maybe I'm wrong ,but that is what I'm thinking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-YZpyJqu0Y

[alrelax]

There is NOTHING 'very safe to play' in the casino.

[RouletteKEY]

And "one foot pointed toward the door" is just "hit and run" style of play, or "quit while you're ahead", which is so ridiculous that it beggars belief. Quitting while ahead only works once. Having got ahead, quit, and never set foot inside a casino again.

Mike

I suppose if you twist it around a bit you can come to these conclusions...but basically I think you are driving this out of context

I don't know what end you are trying to get to with this

But to clarify my positions let me explain that I play for anywhere from a couple hours to 18 hours at a time so most would never accuse me of "hit and run" tactics.  I set a win goal and if I achieve it I stop.  I may start a new session with another win goal an hour or so later ... after they give me a buffet to think about it.  I may even play a little after I hit my win goal as sometimes the win takes me over the top a bit so I will give it a couple more spins and try to turn a good day into a great day without giving back my predetermined winnings goal.

But to insinuate that once up we would never return to gaming basically seems pretty simplistic and almost on the verge of argumentative in nature. 

You kinda caught me off-guard with that last part... unaccustomed to your style of witty retort as my 8 year old outgrew that stage of arguments a couple years ago

Good luck with your gaming...sorry I ruffled your feathers agreeing with what I felt was some common sense that needed to be interjected into the discussion

[Mike]

RouletteKEY,

No ruffled feathers here. I was just pointing out the truth, for those who can apply a modicum of logical thinking, which appears to be in very short supply around here.

And that last part was intended to be neither witty nor flippant, or even facetious, but serious.