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Sputnik's March

Started by Sputnik, January 07, 2016, 10:36:02 AM

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Atlantis

I agree with asymbacguy's comments.

@Gambler,

I flatbet the results you gave...


  B
  P
  B
  B
  B
  P
  B
  B lose-stop       -1
  P
  P
  P
  B
  B win-stop      +0*
  B
  B
  B
  P
  P win-stop       +1*
  B
  B win-stop       +2*
  P
  P win-stop       +3*
  B
  P lose-stop        +2
  P
  B
  B
  B
  P
  B lose-stop       +1
  P
  B win               +2
  P win               +3*
  P lose-stop       +2
  B
  P
  P lose-stop       +1
  B
  B
  B
  B
  P
  B lose-stop       +0
  B
  P
  P
  P
  B
  P lose-stop       -1
  P
  P
  P
  B
  P
  P lose-stop        -2
  B
  B
  P
  P
  B
  B
  B
  B
  P
  P win-stop         -1
  B
  P
  B last series was 2-1 followed by 2 chops (singles) so next bet would be = Player


A.

Gambler

Atlantis - Thanks for the illustration. I got the same result as well..-2...

This is one of the toughest shoe with this method, and going down with a cpl of units is not bad..

RouletteFan

@antlantis

hello

can you please explain again step by how you play ?

a lot of people over would to enter the discussion but they don't understand how to play


thank :thumbsup:

plolp

                 roulette fan ,what do you not understand ?
Rien de plus normal, tout est étrange .

plolp

It is true that there atlantis contradictory attacks.
Missing attacks too.
Rien de plus normal, tout est étrange .

Atlantis

Hi,

For clarification I wish BEAT-THE-WHEEL would come back on...
As BigEZ reports he has now deleted his example from this thread (WHY, I wonder??) and not as yet answered my request for confirmation on my example.

Basically method is same as Sputnik's second march detailed earlier with the modifications I showed in my last 2 examples
(follow the chop after a complete fully formed single series until loss then stop + bet against "series of one" ONE TIME ONLY if last two complete series were 2 and 3 in any order)

I commence play when I have 2 complete formed different series

series 1 = single
series 2 = streak of 2
series 3 = 3 or more streak

example1
-----------
r
r
b
b
b
r - bet here against it being a series of 1
r - w+1  STOP

example 2
------------
r
r
b
r - last 2 series were 1 and 2 so bet here for chop to continue ie. against series 3
b - w+1
r - w+1
r - L-1  STOP
b
r - last 2 series were 1 and 2 so bet against series of 3
b - w+1
b - L-1 STOP
r
r
r
b - last 2 series were 3 and 2 so bet against series of 1
b - w+1 STOP

A.

PS. Forgot to say after a STOP I wait for next SERIES to completely form before making decision by looking at last 2 complete series!

PPS. When I say "last 2 series" I mean the last 2 different complete series recorded in the history... You may have to go further back than the actual last 2 series (if they are the same) to get the 2 different series required.
For instance even if the last 5 series were 2-2-2-2-3 then the "last 2 series" are 2 and 3 so you look to bet AGAINST series 1 forming...


Tomla

I commence play when I have 2 complete formed different series

series 1 = single
series 2 = streak of 2
series 3 = 3 or more streak

r
r
b
b
b
r - bet here against it being a series of 1
r - w+1  STOP

------

r
r
b                                                           ([atlantis-wouldn't the last two series  be a 3  and a 3 requiring a bet for b here?)
r - last 2 series were 1 and 2 so bet here for chop to continue ie. against series 3
b - w+1

Atlantis

Quote from: Tomla on February 21, 2016, 08:47:13 PM
I commence play when I have 2 complete formed different series

series 1 = single
series 2 = streak of 2
series 3 = 3 or more streak

r
r
b
b
b
r - bet here against it being a series of 1
r - w+1  STOP

------

r
r
b                                                           ([atlantis-wouldn't the last two series  be a 3  and a 3 requiring a bet for b here?)
r - last 2 series were 1 and 2 so bet here for chop to continue ie. against series 3
b - w+1

Hi tomla,

It was two different examples I was showing there tomla - they were separate session unconnected "snippets"!
(I've now made that clear in the post)
But if they had been consecutive results then you are right the last 2 series would have been 3-3 - so you would need to go further back to get an earlier different series, which in that case would have been series 2; so you would arrive at 3-2.

r
r
b
b
b
r - bet here against it being a series of 1
r - w+1  STOP
r
r
b - last 2 series are 3-2 so bet against series 1
r - L-1  STOP
b
r - last 2 series are 1-3 so bet against series 2
r - L-1 STOP
b
r - last 2 series are 1-2 so bet against series 3
b - w+1
b - L-1   STOP

Hope this helps,
A.                                           

Tomla


plolp

I take the same example

r
r
b
b
b
r - bet here against it being a series of 1
r - w+1  STOP
r
r
b - last 2 series are 3-2 so bet against series 1
r - L-1  STOP ____________________________last 2 events are 1-3 so bet b
b____________________________________________________________W
r - last 2 series are 1-3 so bet against series 2_________________________W
r - L-1 STOP____________________________________________________L stop
b
r - last 2 series are 1-2 so bet against series 3
b - w+1
b - L-1   STOP
Rien de plus normal, tout est étrange .

Atlantis

Quote from: plolp on February 22, 2016, 12:08:05 AM
I take the same example

r
r
b
b
b
r - bet here against it being a series of 1
r - w+1  STOP
r
r
b - last 2 series are 3-2 so bet against series 1
r - L-1  STOP ____________________________last 2 events are 1-3 so bet b
b____________________________________________________________W
r - last 2 series are 1-3 so bet against series 2_________________________W
r - L-1 STOP____________________________________________________L stop
b
r - last 2 series are 1-2 so bet against series 3
b - w+1
b - L-1   STOP

Hi plolp,

Yes- I have played that way also with success. But out of the two ways which of them is the right one? - and does it matter anyway?
We need beat-the-wheel to come on and give his view. Also I would value Sputnik opinion on the correct way.
My feeling is that the way I interpreted it from beat-the-wheel's now deleted example IS the right one. (The example he deleted in reply#129) I took care and spent time over that when I made the example in my reply#134 on page 9. But we'll only know for sure when he himself verifies it as being correct.

Thanks,
A.

Gambler

Atlantis - What kind of MM you follow?. Flat betting or progression. If progression then what is your line?

RouletteFan

here is the deleyed post from beat the wheel

hey why you participate to a forum and after you delay your post and you don't want to share anymore ???


Thus I discover a way to bet the single and , avoid the series2&3!!!

B
B  -
P  -SINGLE
B   -SINGLE
P win -1st
B WIN -2nd
B=LOSE 1
B
B  -
P
P  -
B
B win -3rd
P  --SINGLE
B   --SINGLE
P=WIN 4th
P =LOSE -2
B  --SINGLE
P   --SINGLE
B WIN 5th
B =LOSE -3
P  --SINGLE
B   --SINGLE
P WIN 6th
P LOSE 4
P
P
P
P
P
P   -
B
B
B  -
P  --SINGLE
B   --SINGLE
P win -7th
B=LOSE 5
B   -
P  --SINGLE
B  -SINGLE
P win -8
B win -9
P win -10
B WIN-11
B =LOSE -7
P
P
P   -
B
B WIN 12
B   -
P
P
P
P
P   -
B
B  -
P
P-WIN13
P
P   -
B
B=WIN14
B  -
P  -
B
B =LOSE -8
P     

Ehtelgaeb

Thanks Roulette Fan! And everyone else working on this.

Atlantis

Hi roulettefan,

Yes - that is the one. Thanks for reposting it. That does clear it up and answer my question then. :)
I checked it again and I am right. My example DOES adhere to same rules and match beat-the-wheel's way and does not include the extra betting that plolp showed/did...
The question remains as to why B-T-W deleted it - and at the moment we can only speculate.... ;)

Regards,
A.