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[Sputnik]

sogget why do you continue with this topic? just curios!
Can't you see that Ignatus have much to learn about the game.

[Stepkevh]

Sogget,

After reading Ignatus first post again i think its this way.
Your 'dozen' string :

1
2 - trigger bet 3
2   L
2   L
2   L -> still betting doz3 but go to 2nd step of progression
2   L
1   L
1   L -> 3th step
1   L
1   L
1   L -> 4th step
2   L
2   L
2   L -> 5th step
2   L
2   L
1   L -> 6th step
3   W  on 6th step of progression

Stef

[soggett]

sogget why do you continue with this topic? just curios!
Can't you see that Ignatus have much to learn about the game.

Because I don't get it
people say they are winning with this, making money piece of cake so I am curious
He has much to learn yes, but we all do, you can never know all 
I just want to test it the proper way
there are periods he doesn't bet so I am a bit lost

@ Stepkevh
that's another way, now I am definitely lost
i'll let ignatus clear it all up for us

[Stepkevh]

its not another way 

This is what he wrote in his very first post

This is how I play it: Wait for trigger doz 1,2 movement then bet doz 3 for 3 spins OR trigger doz 3,2 then bet doz 1 for 3 spins. (this is one session)

Progression +1 progression after 1 session of 3 spins, +1 bet if next session of 3 spins is lost and so on until hit. Progression reset after 2 sessions in a row is won.


I see "Until a hit here", so i suppose i got it right then 

But i'm curious what Ignatus has to say ...

Stef

[ignatus]

This is how I play: Stoploss No bet after four losses: (Wait for a virtual win after four losses). All 123 patterns are bet (123,321,231,213,312,132)

progression 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 14, 21


Dozen One: 4,6,13,15,17,19,21,25,27,32,34 Split 0/2

Dozen Two: 1,16,20,30 Split 5/8, 10/11, 23/24, 33/36

Dozen Three: 3,7,14,18,22,35 Split 9/12, 26/29, 28/31


13
31  Trigger 1,3 - bet 2
33  W   Trigger 3,2 - bet 1
27  W   Trigger 2,1 - bet 3
29  W   Trigger 1,3 - bet 2
12
9
1    W   Trigger 3,2 - bet 1
13  W   Trigger 2,1 - bet 3
15
1
16
27  Stop
26  Virtual Win  Trigger 1,3 - bet 2
20  W   Trigger 3,2 - bet 1
19  W   Trigger 2,1 - bet 3
28  W   Trigger 1,3 - bet 2
36  W   Trigger 2,3 - bet 1
6    W   Trigger 3,1 - bet 2
29
36  W   Trigger 1,2 -bet 3
13 
8
20
8   Stop
8
4
32
4
3   Virtual win  Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
36
17
4    W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
33  W   Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
28  W   Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
25  W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
20  W   Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
23
10
22 W   Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
17 W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
16 W   Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
5
27
25
16  Stop
33 
23 
13
29  Virtual win  Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
23
6    W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
25
1    W   Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
17
31  W   Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
24
5
33
2   W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
3   
13
1   W   Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
30
29  W   Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
9
2    W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
16  W   

[soggett]

ok, but rayhd63 posted this at the other cc forum, why does he have a nobet signal?

[ignatus]

ok, but rayhd63 posted this at the other cc forum, why does he have a nobet signal?

He's playing it another way: only betting for each trigger once I do not recommend this way of playing, because I've seen long losing streaks playing this way.


Better to use stoploss (after 4 losses) and bet for each trigger until hit.

[soggett]

He's playing it another way: only betting for each trigger once I do not recommend this way of playing, because I've seen long losing streaks playing this way.


Better to use stoploss (after 4 losses) and bet for each trigger until hit.

oh, ok, that clears thins up a bit, thanks

[SamNL]

I will try this later today on Dublinbet and will report my results.

[ignatus]

I will try this later today on Dublinbet and will report my results.

Great!


Play on table 1 because I had bad luck on table 2! 

[soggett]

This is how I play: Stoploss No bet after four losses: (Wait for a virtual win after four losses). All 123 patterns are bet (123,321,231,213,312,132)

progression 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 14, 21  - when you are betting 13 numbers the last 3 steps leave you in minus when you win


Dozen One: 4,6,13,15,17,19,21,25,27,32,34 Split 0/2

Dozen Two: 1,16,20,30 Split 5/8, 10/11, 23/24, 33/36

Dozen Three: 3,7,14,18,22,35 Split 9/12, 26/29, 28/31


13
31  Trigger 1,3 - bet 2
33  W   Trigger 3,2 - bet 1
27  W   Trigger 2,1 - bet 3
29  W   Trigger 1,3 - bet 2
12
9
1    W   Trigger 3,2 - bet 1
13  W   Trigger 2,1 - bet 3
15
1
16
27  Stop
26  Virtual Win  Trigger 1,3 - bet 2
20  W   Trigger 3,2 - bet 1
19  W   Trigger 2,1 - bet 3
28  W   Trigger 1,3 - bet 2
36  W   Trigger 2,3 - bet 1
6    W   Trigger 3,1 - bet 2  - shouldn't here be a bet for 3 as 36 is dozen 2 and 6 is dozen1 ?
29                                      so a win here?
36  W   Trigger 1,2 -bet 3  - here shouldnt we bet dozen 1? 29 is dozen 3 and 36 is dozen 2
13                                       win here?
8
20
8   Stop
8
4
32
4
3   Virtual win  Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
36
17
4    W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
33  W   Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
28  W   Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
25  W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
20  W   Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
23
10
22 W   Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
17 W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
16 W   Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
5
27
25
16  Stop
33 
23 
13
29  Virtual win  Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
23
6    W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
25
1    W   Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
17
31  W   Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
24
5
33
2   W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
3   
13
1   W   Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
30
29  W   Trigger 2,3 - Bet 1
9
2    W   Trigger 3,1 - Bet 2
16  W   

i get this, is it correct?

[ignatus]

i get this, is it correct?

Yes, that's correct. Thanks 

[Drazen]

Play on table 1 because I had bad luck on table 2! 

   

[soggett]

Yes, that's correct. Thanks 

ok, then take a look a t DB4000 spin file, its on the other forum
in the first 150 spins your system fails, the whole progression with the virtual loss
here are the losing spins

15
22
15
19
21
31
22
15
36
36
19
0
23 @ Drazen my thoughs exactly

[ignatus]

15 
22  Trigger 1,3 - bet 2
15
19
21
31  Stop 
22
15
36 Virtual win Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
36
19
0
23 Stop

So, progression reach 8th step is not end of the world? progression is 9 steps12 numbers: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 14, 21

Another progression that can be useful is the +1 progression, it's very effective and last much longer than ordinary progression. +1 bet until hit. (or one hit within the first 4 spins then reset) or else two hits in sequence (4 spins) before reset.