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Delayed parachute
« on: October 28, 2012, 10:16:33 pm »
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  • This one is based on the "parachuting" methodology.

    For those who might not be familiar with it, the parachute is a progression in risk, simply going to the next location of the following ladder:

    • Even chance.
    • Dozen/Column
    • Double-street.
    • Quad/Corner
    • Street
    • Split.

    This is delayed because it's based on CYCLES, unlike the traditional 36-unit parachute which is based on SPINS.
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    Re: Delayed parachute
    « Reply #1 on: October 28, 2012, 10:25:02 pm »
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  • The cycle for each level/location is equal to its payout:

    • Even chance: 2 spins.
    • Dozen/Column: 3 spins.
    • Double-street: 6 spins.
    • Quad/Corner: 9 spins.
    • Street: 12 spins.
    • Split: 18 spins.

    You never go to straight-up level with the delayed parachute.
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    Re: Delayed parachute
    « Reply #2 on: October 28, 2012, 10:35:03 pm »
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  • The base methodology is this:

    • Rise unit +1 on a hit.
    • Use the next higher-paying location on a hit.
    • Go back to the previous lower-paying location ON A MISSED CYCLE.
    • If your last hit gives you a profit or makes you break even, you reset to the even chance level (i.e start over).
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    Re: Delayed parachute
    « Reply #3 on: October 28, 2012, 11:05:29 pm »
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  • Example:

    You start at the even chance level. Using one (1) as your base unit, and stay there until you get a hit.

    When you get a hit, you check your balance.

    If your hit makes you a profit or breaks even, then you call it a reset and stay at the even-chance level.

    If after your hit you are below your starting balance, then rise the betting unit +1, to 2 units, and move your bets to the dozens/column level.

    If you miss 3 spins (a full dozen's cycle) you regress and take your bets back to the even chance level.

    If you hit while betting the cycle, you check your bankroll balance.

    If your hit makes you break even on the initial balance or makes you any profit, then it's time for a reset.

    If -on the contrary- you are still below your initial balance, then rise +1 (to 3 units) and move your bets to the double-street level.

    And there the same procedure for each level goes again.

    If you miss 6 spins (a full double-street cycle) then regress your bets back to the dozens level.

    If you hit, check your balance. If breaking even or in any profit, then it's time to reset.

    If on the contrary you are still holding a deficit, then rise your unit +1 (to 4 units) and move your bets to the  corner/quad level.

    Repeat the procedure for the level.

    If you miss 9 spins without a hit, go back to double-street level.

    If you hit, check your bankroll balance for a break even or profit.

    If it's a deficit, then rise +1 and move to the next higher-paying location level.

    Same procedure for the rest of locations.

    Always using the cycle = payout to know how many spins to hold your bet on a location.
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    Re: Delayed parachute
    « Reply #4 on: October 28, 2012, 11:26:33 pm »
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  • The rationale of the delayed parachute:

    If it goes poorly, you will be covering locations with more numbers, giving yourself a better chance to getting some hits and "fluctuating" until the tide turns so you can maximize the chances to "be there". i.e. bankroll preservation.

    On the other hand, you will catch the good streaks naturally covering higher-paying locations to increase your chances of a recovery and a successful session-end or reset point.
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    Re: Delayed parachute
    « Reply #5 on: October 28, 2012, 11:30:13 pm »
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  • One last thing. You can reduce your betting unit, but you'll soon notice the higher units on the higher-paying locations during hits are the ones that make the best "upward spikes" for an exit point in the cycle  :nod:
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    Re: Delayed parachute
    « Reply #6 on: October 29, 2012, 03:20:16 am »
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  • If you miss 3 spins (a full dozen's cycle) you regress and take your bets back to the even chance level.


    Hi Victor.  I've always liked parachutes .....  I'm not sure I understand the meaning to this particular sentence.  I thought a loss at any level regresses to the next level, not back to the even chance.  Am I missing something here?  If we miss 3 spins and go back to the even chance level, how would we ever get to the splits level?  Hope this made sense.....

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    Re: Delayed parachute
    « Reply #7 on: October 29, 2012, 03:36:09 am »
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  • I think perhaps I've got a better understanding after looking this over several times.   Can you please take a look at this example and let me know if I've got it?  I was playing for a 1/2 hit.



    35   -1   -1
    24   -1   -2
    22   -1   -3
    36   -1   -4
    6   1   -3
    18   -2   -5
    5   4   -1
    34   -3   -4
    21   -3   -7
    0   -3   -10
    34   -3   -13
    15   -3   -16
    21   -3   -19
    31   -2   -21
    29   -2   -23
    18   -2   -25
    0   -1   -26
    22   -1   -27
    13   1   -26
    6   4   -22
    24   -3   -25
    12   -3   -28
    22   -3   -31
    25   -3   -34
    17   -3   -37
    32   -3   -40
    35   -2   -42
    31   -2   -44
    6   4   -40
    8   -3   -43
    8   -3   -46
    29   -3   -49
    26   -3   -52
    26   -3   -55
    20   -3   -58
    30   -2   -60
    28   -2   -62
    14   -2   -64
    23   -1   -65
    29   -1   -66
    35   -1   -67
    9   1   -66
    36   -2   -68
    5   4   -64
    36   -3   -67
    34   -3   -70
    28   -3   -73
    36   -3   -76
    21   -3   -79
    24   -3   -82
    24   -2   -84
    12   4   -80
    4   15   -65
    32   -4   -69
    21   -4   -73
    35   -4   -77
    13   -4   -81
    18   -4   -85
    2   32   -53
    34   -5   -58
    26   -5   -63
    25   -5   -68
    36   -5   -73
    11   -5   -78
    20   -5   -83
    15   -5   -88
    17   -5   -93
    3   55   -38
    9   -6   -44
    22   -6   -50
    28   -6   -56
    0   -6   -62
    27   -6   -68
    27   -6   -74
    23   -6   -80
    0   -6   -86
    1   210   124


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    Re: Delayed parachute
    « Reply #8 on: October 29, 2012, 03:52:44 am »
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  • I thought a loss at any level regresses to the next level, not back to the even chance.

    The order from previous to next location is this:

    PREVIOUS

    Even chance.
    Dozen/Column.
    Double-street.
    Quad/Corner.
    Street.
    Split.

    NEXT

    From previous (lower-paying) to next (higher-paying), we say we progress.

    From higher-paying location to lower-paying, we say we regress.

    Remember: The progression we are are talking about being "Progression in risk". The higher-paying location covers less numbers and hence the RISK rises/progresses.




    Am I missing something here?  If we miss 3 spins and go back to the even chance level, how would we ever get to the splits level?

    This is a *delayed* parachute, with a "conscious twist".

    We're always hoping we wouldn't need to get to the splits level and all the bets resolve previous to it.




    There are two things going at once: the unit size and the current location's payout.

    You are positively mixing a progression in unit size with a progression in risk.

    -Yes- The math is kinda fuzzy since it's not an straightforward progression; your unit size changes as well as your current bet location's payout.

    In this scenario it's all about the bankroll balance and checking if the bet was a profit or a break even in order to stop/reset.
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    Re: Delayed parachute
    « Reply #9 on: October 29, 2012, 03:58:04 am »
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  • Many thanks, Victor.  My example, although lengthy, I think is a good example of the power of the method.  But, I completely agree, we want to remain at the lower levels as much as possible.  As always, bet selection is key.

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    Re: Delayed parachute
    « Reply #10 on: November 11, 2012, 08:47:21 am »
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  • I was seriously thinking of giving this a try but then I saw WG's results.

    Unless I've completely misread it spin after spin seems to lose and the bank runs down and down.

    Where's the pleasure in all that?

    And the 124/210 right at the end -- final profit? Or the player's blood pressure after all those losses?


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    Re: Delayed parachute
    « Reply #11 on: November 13, 2012, 12:52:10 am »
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  • Certainly those numbers could easily represent our blood pressure at the table, but I hope it shows the power of the method.  It ended the session at +124.  Highest bet was a 6 and we were only down -84 when the recovery took place.  I had picked the number 1 just as a random number.  I actually think you could play this very successfully by simply playing the numbers 1 through 36 right down the line, looking for a +100 per number.  Actually, maybe I'll do just that and post it......

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    Re: Delayed parachute
    « Reply #12 on: November 15, 2012, 02:21:32 am »
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  • Here are a few sessions.  Played with no stop-loss until +100 or more.  Spins from a B & M casino on a 00 wheel.


    Perhaps someone can check me?


    Victor, I was unable to upload a .xlsx file, so attached it as a .pdf

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    Re: Delayed parachute
    « Reply #13 on: November 15, 2012, 07:42:15 pm »
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  • Victor, I was unable to upload a .xlsx file, so attached it as a .pdf


    You should be able now. Just added it to the allowed file formats :thumbsup:
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    Re: Delayed parachute
    « Reply #14 on: November 17, 2012, 02:13:36 am »
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  • There will be beatifull if we could have an small piece of software for this system. :)
    Uno de Badajoz que pasaba por aquí.