Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 26, 2014, 05:56:57 AM
can't find the thread, but I pretty much memorized it.  (Snicker!)  Where is that darn thread?

Here you go Sam.
http://betselection.cc/general-discussion/musings-Albalaha-and-his-open-challenge/msg26119/#msg26119

Quote from: Albalaha on January 26, 2014, 06:10:31 AM

Saint Pockets going to run away from the challenge. He made a magic potion and was about to display but things gone wrong, so magic potion evaporate and no longer have a magic.
                          You can only spread new set of fallacies and not any working principal, that can help anybody, even slightly.

Am not going anywhere Albalaha. Answer my questions. Don't try running away by picking things. I am here and I can tell millions of times I accept the challenge.  But answer my questions.  Posts are ticking away and you are just runni g away. You have still jot answered me.  Looks like you don't have a method.  At least accept that you lied.  You don't even have to post your method . If you accept that you lied I will play it spin by spin. If you can't accept you lied post your method so that I can prove mine. 

Only empty vessels make noise Albalaha. I read it somewhere.

In that topic he says: "Sorry, took sometime to go through the 15000 spins manually using this and hence did not reply on the post for a day."
  He just made a suitable plug that suits a particular hole and forgot that this plug which is meant for a particular hole will be no good for holes of other sizes. This is exactly what everyone has done in all challenges of mine. IF pocket's claim is real and with a single method he can beat the best doing number 29 to worst doing 3, all, he can create a plug that can fit all holes but he won't tell any of you that. Why? Because, albalaha, who is a scammer by profession, did not show it either. He will only tell you cycles that will create cyclones in your mind or can fit in number 3 hole only.

Thanks, Pockets.  Let me ask you point blank:  Do you have a Consistently Profitable Bet?  One that will make money today, tomorrow and next year?

Not asking you to post it, just if it exists.

Sam

Albalaha.  I have answered ever question any one has asked in my thread. I am not hiding anything like you are doing. If anyone else asks me how to play for a number in Zumma I will answer them, but you. 

Again you are running away. As I said posts are ticking and you are just trying to hide.  I have not got a single answer from you.  You are proving to be a coward and just lying. Answer me I again ask. I accept your challenge.  I will run it spin by spin for every number you post.  You have the courage to openly put your method for everyone to see and prove that you are not lying.  Do you have the courage to tell everyone that you have been lying.  I am making things easy for you.  I am here. Not dunking anywhere. Don't behave like a kid Albalaha you are a grown up. 

Unfortunately this is not your thread, so you can't just lock it and run away as you do.  You are just waiting for the mods to do it for you so that you can run away with your lies as you always do.  Go on Albalaha answer me directly. How many more posts before you can talk directly without throwing tAntrums.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 26, 2014, 06:21:49 AM
Thanks, Pockets.  Let me ask you point blank:  Do you have a Consistently Profitable Bet?  One that will make money today, tomorrow and next year?

Not asking you to post it, just if it exists.

Sam

But I always believe in your words when you say 'Only time will tell'.  I have been playing this right from the day I have posted and I have not lost a single session. But I don't know about tomm.  I have also enhanced it to play 2-3 numbers based on advice given. I have also posted one variation of playing it in this thread. I do not have any problems posting any of the methods I play Sam.

"Not asking you to post it, just if it exists."

  He would have revealed all magic potions but he won't since Albalaha did not do either. Guys, you can now blame me for not letting you have two HGs, one of albalaha, the scammer and one from Saint Pockets. Oh, I missed something, it is not a Holy Grail but it beats all numbers of american roulette, even if it has a Standard Deviation of -3 or more in 15,000 spins.

                       I am sure Albalaha may also be a reason behind superman, Bayes, Weddings, Gizmotron, MBB,XXVV and many others to either not show their respective grails to not so genius members and guests here or to prove logically as to why their methods are grails or even playable.

Quote from: Albalaha on January 26, 2014, 06:32:45 AM
"Not asking you to post it, just if it exists."

  He would have revealed all magic potions but he won't since Albalaha did not do either. Guys, you can now blame me for not letting you have two HGs, one of albalaha, the scammer and one from Saint Pockets. Oh, I missed something, it is not a Holy Grail but it beats all numbers of american roulette, even if it has a Standard Deviation of -3 or more in 15,000 spins.

                       I am sure Albalaha may also be a reason behind superman, Bayes, Weddings, Gizmotron, MBB,XXVV and many others to either not show their respective grails to not so genius members and guests here or to prove logically as to why their methods are grails or even playable.

Albalaha. As I always said if anyone else but you ask me I will explain them.  You are just classically running away again. As Bayes posted earlier, all membership in your list claim to have winning methods.  All of them have posted hints on how to do it. Xxvv has a whole thread.  He even posted how to play before deleting  the post.  Superman says that it is about money management but it is very fluid one. Weddings posted sessions from BV not once, twice, multiple times. He is claiming to run a profit sharing programme. How better can it get as he is just not selling anything but putting his skin in the game. MBb says play the first to reach five and you will win. No one is claiming that I will beat every 200 spins which is as ridiculous as it's author.  You are just buying time for mods to block this thread before you can run away with your lies.  Answer me Albalaha


As I said when kids don't get their way they throw their tantrums.  When the tantrums are not heard they make a pity face.  That's what you are doing now and you are doing it good.  I bet you are a lawyer. Next thing they do is forgetting it and getting involved in something else. And that's what is going to happen you are just going to run away with yore lies. 

I think this debate of I have a grail, no you don't, will go on indefinitely.


The only reason a person posts that they have a grail is to get recognition., whyelse would you say this.


If you have a grail then you have two reasonable choices, don't say anything and just make money or post your method and become legend.


However, even if you post a grail only a handful of players will recognize this. The casinos are not afraid, an industry that makes several billion per year. A grail will not even dent this figure, only a handful,will play. You can post your method fully explained, with long term tests results etc, only a handful will believe. It is not going to turn the world upside down.


Until a grail barrer posts their method there are only empty words.


If nothing else, play your grail method on one casino for six months, then please post a screen shot of your balance, at least you have something to back up your claims.

When Pockets saw me stopping my sports pick, he wrote: "Just a short message to Albalaha and any others who were following high probability picks, it was a good topic, Sumit was providing great picks, it's a pity he decided not to continue. There was lot of work that went in that topic and to me the decision to lock and not continue didn't sound good. A personal message for Sumit, you might want to take it or leave it. Buddy, live for yourselves. Like you, yourselves and only yourselves. if posting something is giving you satisfaction, why notice those distant barks. Just rephrasing your signature, only a genius knows how to turn noise to music. Decide yourselves whether you are a genius or a common man."


Now he says," As I said when kids don't get their way they throw their tantrums.  When the tantrums are not heard they make a pity face.  That's what you are doing now and you are doing it good.  I bet you are a lawyer. Next thing they do is forgetting it and getting involved in something else. And that's what is going to happen you are just going to run away with yore lies. "



and reason behind both remarks being same : frustration due to inability to do anything and only lurking here and there to get something that can mint money effortlessly.

                               He dare not simulate what he said in his "way to beat number 3" because he knows that what he said was just a joke and using the same method in other numbers, it will fall flat. His excuse: he won't because albalaha is not showing his grail. What a clevera##.

I clearly State that his method is a failure in random sessions of similar nature and difficulty. He has just made a "suitable size fitting plug".
         Any person can simulate his ideas(if one gets to understand what he meant to say first) and can see this.

QuoteBayes, if it is the sole condition to prove a grail, I have 12 grails so far, at least  that has done such things or better. Was MBB's private testing results better than this :-Alababa

Alababa,

Here's why nobody is taking you serious.  You don't post any math or descriptions that describe why your system could possibly be mathematically sound.    Testimonials about past performance are meaningless, if you can't describe why your bets should perform better than expectation. 



-Xander

My lord. I would like to politely point that Albalaha is not answering my questions directly. I have been asking that for ages. I would also like to politely point that he is keeping on making claims without proof.  There is no point making long posts Albalaha. Do you have the courage to prove you are not lying.  Of course not because you are lying.  Soon the court will dismiss and you are just buying time talking things which are pointless and beating around the bush. I claim that I have a rose.  I have shown the people my rose. I have made the people smell it. I am saying I am glad to give it to others so that they can dissect it and genetically prove that it is indeed a rose. You claim that you have a dog. You are neither showing it to people nor or you letting it bark. Only you are barking. How can one trust you that you are not lying. 


Again am saying if anyone except you asks me I will explain them step by step spin by spin. I have already done that for Sam as he asked me.  That post is for everyone to see.  I can do that for any number you ask me to do.  But you are asking me and others to prove it when you never post anything meaningful about your method.  I still stand by you, as I have always told that I respect you for posts where you have talked sense.   A simple example is overcoming variance post in your blog which max posted here.  In fact if you have read my method of beating number 3 it uses this aspect.  What I don't like is your double standards.  When you can claim you have a Hh without showing anything why go after people when they do the same. 


Enough beating round the bush. I have the courage to accept the challenge because I know what am doing.  Are you man enough to make it fair and prove me wrong? Or are you just going to buy time before chris or max wakes up to lock the thred and run Away.  I bet you will do the second.   Go on prove me wrong.

QuoteMy lord. I would like to politely point that Albalaha is not answering my questions directly. I have been asking that for ages. I would also like to politely point that he is keeping on making claims without proof-Pockets

In short, most people believe that he's bloviating.

Quote from: Xander on January 26, 2014, 07:13:41 AM
Alababa,

Here's why nobody is taking you serious.  You don't post any math or descriptions that describe why your system could possibly be mathematically sound.    Testimonials about past performance are meaningless, if you can't describe why your bets should perform better than expectation. 



-Xander

Do you feel that your empty talks helping anyone here? Someone said that he is beating something that nobody did earlier and even posted that in his way. Instead of simulating that himself or anybody else, people are distracting all from main issue. Does pockets actually win all numbers with his way?
I say no. Simulate it to get any conclusion, if anybody believes him (including himself). He has nothing to reveal something by whispering in someone's ears.

Moderator's comment

Fellow moderators, I suggest we keep this thread open whist it's reasonably civilized, and for as long as it takes for Albalaha to actually irrefutably prove his claims once and for all.

And to answer Pockets' patient questions.

It's finally time for Al to put up or shut up.

But wait... Is it really Al posting?
I think it's an impostor because Al clearly stated he was leaving the forum.