I deposited $50 at an online casino and told them no bonus.
They said OK and gave me the bonus anyway. So now I have
to wager $2000 before I can withdraw any money.

They say any bets on Baccarat, the EC's in roulette, the dozens
or columns in roulette, do not count to bringing down the bonus.

Is anybody familiar with this? Does this mean I can still bet the
streets and double streets? If so, what's stopping me from betting
all 6 double streets at once and a small bet on the zero. This will
bring down the $2000 requirement in no time.

Any comments welcome.

Spike

It has been my experience you have to bet your deposit amount around 35 or more times on slots or Keno.  Basically, you will never get your bonus!  Nor can you withdraw if you win 1,000 on roulette.  Be careful what you bet.  Sometimes your winnings are added in and you have to bet THAT additional amount 35 or more times.  It's like trying to pay off a loan shark!

I would demand they take off the bonus.  I have done that and they did.  'Course, it varies from casino to casino.

Good luck!

Sam

Its just as Sam says Spike.....


but also:-

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Is anybody familiar with this? Does this mean I can still bet thestreets and double streets? If so, what's stopping me from bettingall 6 double streets at once and a small bet on the zero. This willbring down the $2000 requirement in no time.

...in particular, even tho the casino may not have spelt out every bet that is covered by the bonus terms & conditions, the fact that U are deliberately setting out to clear the bonus wagering requirements, by  your intended bet, the casino could say that U have not played  your bonus in the spirit of the terms & conditions, and still make U meet the requirements by more straight forward betting styles.

All in all, never take bonuses.
Send customer services an email, before placing any bets, and ask/tell them to remove the additional funds.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on March 24, 2013, 07:54:43 PM
Spike

It has been my experience you have to bet your deposit amount around 35 or more times on slots or Keno.

Sam

Are you saying I can't bet roulette at all?

I suggest you read the fine print very carefully before taking any bonuses.

Some casinos won't want you to use any type of methods on their facilities. Basically anything other than blind-folded chip scattering is forbidden.

QuoteAny winnings made using advantageous betting methods (including but not limited to systematic bets on roulette) will be considered as fraudulent and will immediately become void.

On the bets they consider "OK", you get only a tiny percentage of them towards clearing the bonus (i.e. 2%)

http://en.offsidebet.com/en-GB/netent_splash/info/casino/terms_and_conditions

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Other will flat exclude roulette and other "even chance games":

Quote4. Due to “Even-Chance” betting possibility, all Roulette wagers are excluded. Craps, Baccarat, card wars, video poker games/ poker, Sic Bo and all variants of Black Jack games are also excluded for this bonus.

https://www.1bet.com/EN/promotion.html?id=27

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I would advice against taking a bonus unless you do understand fully what you get into.

If unsure, you can always pass the casino link around for peer evaluation/opinion.

Best.

Before opening a new account at ANY online casino I always send them an email stating that I want to open a real money account but I want to recieve no bonuses of any kind whilst Im a member there. I tell them that as soon as I get an  email confirming this I will deposit the funds.
I have NEVER received bonuses this way.

Yes everybody, I KNOW not to take a bonus. I told
them NO BONUS and they said OK, then gave me the
bonus anyway.

My question is, now what? They specifically said no
bets on roulette EC's, or dozens or columns. They
said nothing about streets or the inside numbers.

Does that mean I can play those?

Don't play ANYTHING, until they have removed the bonus money

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Send customer services an email, before placing any bets, and ask/tell them to remove the additional funds.

Name me the casino. I have played online in more than 200 casinos. I have handled many such bonuses. If they restrict outside bets on roulette, it is not an issue. If they have their terms in writing, refer to that, then make your strategy. Is it live dealer or only RNG?

Spike, why u did not insist so they remove the bonus? Till u started playing with the bonus u have no wager requirements. They made mistake, they can correct it. U start playing with it -- and that's it.

Quote from: spike on March 24, 2013, 07:12:25 PM
Does this mean I can still bet the
streets and double streets? If so, what's stopping me from betting
all 6 double streets at once and a small bet on the zero. This will
bring down the $2000 requirement in no time.

Any comments welcome.

You can bet on the streets and double streets. 

I think it's a bad idea to bet all double streets + covering the zero. This means you will lose whatever is on the zero every spin that the zero doesn't hit and there's no guarantee that it will hit enough times for you to recover if and when it does hit. Let's say you put $1 on each DS and 20 cents on the zero. That's roughly $6 of the bonus requirement paid off each spin, which means that after 334 spins you should have paid it off completely. If you put 20 cents on the zero as a cover bet every spin, and the zero doesn't hit, it means you've lost 334 x 0.2 = $66.8 (more than your bank!). Now it's unlikely that zero won't hit at all, but it may not hit nearly enough to ensure that you break even after the 334 spins. However you mess around with stakes won't help, it's just trading off one risk against another. That's why the casino won't care at all if you do something like this.

It makes no sense. They say no dozens or EC's may be bet,
yet you can bet the dozens and H/L all day long on the streets.
I trhink they mean you can bet the inside NUMBERS only and they
don't know the streets are also considered the 'inside'.

Quote from: spike on March 24, 2013, 07:12:25 PM
I deposited $50 at an online casino and told them no bonus.
They said OK and gave me the bonus anyway. So now I have
to wager $2000 before I can withdraw any money.

Please name the casino and do NOT play anything until they remove that bonus.

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Its Dublin and I already made a few bets.

Spike,

  Well, I went over to Dublin and finally tracked down the "bonus" requirements.   They actually state that the required amount to payoff the "bonus" may be as high as 37 times your deposit plus bonus!!!

  Also, you cannot play many traditional casino games to satisfy the requirements of the bonus.  As baccarat is on the "no play" list, that kills any bonus for sure.

  Here is the appropriate link for those who wish to read it themselves.  It DOES state that the player has a choice so I would think having them just dump it on you can (and should have been) removed.
 
http://www.dublinbet.com/help/bonus_terms.html

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