Here is one for the old school bac players that used to play on the original two sided tables, with the 2 bankers seated and the casino person standing up calling the cards, and a floor supervisor on each end of the table.  This was also the type of table where each person actually held the shoe and dealt the cards, kept the shoe as long as the shoe was producing banker winning hands and pass the shoe counterclockwise after the shoe made a winning player hand.

Oh seen it all.  People eat a card, rip up cards, throw bad hands, even the Casino movie bj scene with Joe Pesci where he kept throwing the cards at the dealer telling dealer to give them to his mom and sister or something like that.  Remember this one large player back at Ballys Grand in AC, needed anything but a face or 10 and we would have all won the hand. 

You know, back then smoking cigar, Italian biz owner of some type from NYC etc. 

Anyways he peeks at the card.  Looks at everyone.  We all know it has to be a face card.  He looks at bankers seated, (don't forget we actually had the shoe not the casino personnel). Looks at the banker seated and throws the card at him, like frisbee style and said, here you take the lesbian (it was a queen of course) and he immediately pulls another card.  Gets a number card and slams it down,  said, see that-we won.

Floor person on his side of the table reached over and slid the shoe into the middle of the table and then after previous hand was all collected up,  played out the next hand as a dead hand,  she told him,  one more chance then your done. 

He gave some kind of monologue about his wife and X wives all telling him the same sh*t.  He turns to the floor person standing on his side of the table and flaps his fingers into his thumb like a good 10 times .  She just ignored him.

But lol, those were the days. 

I will breakdown what happened and our way of successfully Wagering them. A few of us did extremely well, the rest either pushed or eventually lost their funds. I'm not armchair quarterbacking these after the fact. I will lay out our reasonings and decisions as they basically happened best I can from my notes.

I will do that starting tomorrow.

Well it appears the sandwich which got its name from The 4th Earl of Sandwich, has relation to developing it for snacking at the gaming table. 

"Then in the early 1770s, the French travel writer Pierre-Jean Grosley published a gossipy and satirical book called A Tour to London; Or New Observations on England and its Inhabitants. In it, Grosely described a scene at a gambling table:"

https://www.history.com/news/sandwich-inventor-john-montagu-earl-of-sandwich

From Wiki:  The word "sandwich" appears, referring to a certain roast beef sandwich in England

Portrait of the Earl of Sandwich by Thomas Gainsborough, 1783, after whom the sandwich is named. Initially perceived as food that men shared while gaming and drinking at night, the sandwich slowly began appearing in polite society as a late-night meal among the aristocracy. The sandwich is named after John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich, an eighteenth-century English aristocrat.[8][9] It is commonly said that Lord Sandwich, during long sessions of cribbage and other card games at public gambling houses, would order his valet to bring him roast beef between two pieces of toasted bread.[9] He was fond of this form of food because it allowed him to continue gambling while eating, without the need for a fork, and without getting his cards greasy from eating meat with his bare hands. The dish then grew in popularity in London, and Sandwich's name became associated with it.[8] The rumour in its familiar form appeared in Pierre-Jean Grosley's Londres (Neuchâtel, 1770), translated as A Tour to London in 1772;[15] Grosley's impressions had been formed during a year in London in 1765. An alternative is provided by Sandwich's biographer, N. A. M. Rodger, who suggests Sandwich's commitments to the Navy, and to politics and the arts, mean the first sandwich was more likely to have been consumed at his desk.

The sandwich's popularity in Spain and England increased dramatically during the nineteenth century, when the rise of industrial society and the working classes made fast, portable, and inexpensive meals essential.[16] In London, for example, at least seventy street vendors were selling ham sandwiches by 1850; during that decade sandwich bars also became an important form of eating establishment in western Holland, typically serving liver and salt beef sandwiches.

In the United States, the sandwich was first promoted as an elaborate meal at supper. By the early 20th century, as bread became a staple of the American diet, the sandwich became the same kind of popular, quick meal as was already widespread in the Mediterranean.

OMG, gotta love it!  Might just be a touch of the old school mob, huh?  You guys have a few weeks to rectify a situation you committed, can't undo the situation as it's a done deal, but if you pay us what we were supposed to have received up front on fees and permitting charges, you guys are good to go.

"The city sent a notice to the Three Affiliated Tribes, saying it has until January 6 to file and purchase the necessary permits or face legal action."


I Love It!  Beautiful!  Wonder when they show up at the Las Vegas/Clark County Building Department after the funds are paid if the city/county has the cigars and cognac brought out? 


https://www.kxnet.com/news/top-stories/three-affiliated-tribes-facing-action-in-las-vegas-for-improperly-tearing-down-hotel/

Published: Sep. 9, 2024

LAS VEGAS, Nev. (FOX5) - A man is accused of using drugs and threatening Las Vegas Strip casino workers with a makeshift flamethrower, according to an arrest report.

Gavin Hamilton faces multiple felony charges, including arson, assault, possession of a fire device, damage to property and drug possession, according to court records.

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police said they received a call around 6:20 p.m. Sept. 1 to the Fontainebleau Las Vegas property to reports that a person was making threats toward maintenance workers "following interference with a fire protection system on the 11th floor." Police allege the suspect activated the sprinklers.

"Maintenance noted that the individuals was covered in an unidentified black substance or oil and appeared highly agitated," an arrest report said. The workers told police the man had a black backpack with a metal hose sticking out.


"When maintenance tried to approach [Hamilton], he lit the unknown flammable liquid through the hose toward them" the arrest report said. Maintenance backed away and the suspect eventually left the property, the report said.

Hamilton was arrested nearby and pointed officers to his backpack. Hamilton told police he used meth in the bathroom at Fontainebleau and described apparent hallucinations of being chased by two men at the property. Hamilton said he created a makeshift "flamethrower" and used it to activate the sprinkler system, thinking it would save him from the people chasing him in the stairwell

A group of us together the other night talking after a couple of shoes we played. Here's a recap of what we all agreed upon.

Hard as hell to go up against the tide!

Up against an incoming and ongoing tide, the money you got in front of you against the rack's large amount of chips against yours plays upon your mind. You can't tell me you're not continuously looking at the larger denomination chips in the middle of the dealers rack!

It works until it doesn't work. Your decision making process will be challenged many times throughout the shoe.

You have to execute an agenda with a rock solid MMM that works on your behalf.

Be extra careful of creating something that is not present. Such as you cannot overpower the shoe in small sections and profit nicely all the time or when you choose to.

We play to win. And how can you add advantages to your play?

Most important is to understand your buy-in, bankroll an MMM.  And the application of those.

Understand the risk. Be comfortable with it and view it as opportunity.

Time frame to play. Timeframe to win. Understand those are two very important things that will happen during each session. Each one has its constraints if you are intelligent. 

Variations will apply and bring frustration, anxiety and emotions into your decision making process.

False measurements in hopes. Be able to recognize them and alter your play to alleviate them.

Reality Continuing. 

"SPEAK TO REALITY"

Reality is what wins. Not finger-pointing at the scoreboard as to why you did not win or what's coming up next. That in my opinion, will only lead to confusion and frustration.

Reality. Replay it over and over and over. Because there is nothing but the cards that are preset and will come out of the shoe the way they were pre-set to. No one can or will change them no matter what is said or done in anyway whatsoever. The only thing that gets changed, is your mind on how to wager throughout the shoe.

Value the Reality.  Value what works and what happens. Do not value a mathematical situation that you attempt to put order to, because of fallacy reasoning. The way the cards were shuffled, cut and burned will discount any and all types of mathematical situations from being repetitive and able to match mechanical triggers anywhere near 50%, let alone greater than 50%.

Everything, and I mean everything has its limits and acceptable amounts!  Remember that because that is reality within the game of Baccarat.

So what's the answer? Something along the lines of, you cannot pour a 14 ounce beer into a shot glass, it will not fit. Likewise you cannot squeeze a fully grown circus bear into a size 2 pair of overalls, it's simply cannot be done! 

How can one exactly mark bad, wrong, overflowing, too much, etc.? How can one exactly mark good, correct, perfect and cannot exceed what is going on, etc.?

We normally do not do things that are not normal and not natural. That's the way our brains think.  It's called self-defense.  However when we are at the baccarat table, we have to do things that are not normal or natural. And that's where the combative action of our decision making process comes into play due to the way the cards will form hands without any set normal or natural reasoning.

Put $ XYZ on the line.
Win and make $ XYZ.
Lose and $ XYZ is gone.

Instant results but total reality continuously while you are playing.  Not normalcy or natural with most all other aspects of our life including anything with investments that we've ever experienced.

Thinking can be overpowering because it is not the way we've been accustomed to for years and decades. When you sit down at a Baccarat Table you better get into the reality of what the table produces.  You have to accept and change your way of thinking to have an advantage. 

"The Best of the Best and Nothing Less". We all want it, dream of it and crave it in countless ways. Getting it and holding it throughout the game, is entirely another story. Without yourself being in reality, it is going to be hard to hold it. 

Stop Rationalizing Losses! Stop! Live in reality while you are playing the game, you will understand the game a heck of a lot better.

You know, I have seen a lot inside of casinos.  Lots of arguments with husbands/wives, BF/GF's, casino players and dealers/pit personnel, between 2 players, etc.  Some of them pretty loud to say the least.  But never I have witnessed a physical altercation taking place at a baccarat table!


Okay, here's what occurred.  Well it was a pretty normal session we were going through at the table. People winning and losing, a few people drinking heavy, one or two trying to borrow money from their friends and a few people just talking. Nothing out of the ordinary at all.

Then this regular player comes up and asks another very well-known regular player for the money that he borrowed from him a while back and he wants it back. The guy is seated at the table and keeps his head down and doesn't answer the guy asking for his money returned.

Usually everyone's pretty quiet about asking for their money back with a tap on the shoulder and a motion to pay them back or something along those lines, nobody really let's go out loud with a verbal, give me my money back, in a demanding type of way.

This guy says it several times out loud very distinctively and finally the seated player that seemingly owed the money, got up and the guy that was asking for his money back smacks the guy closed fisted right in the face.  The guy falls back and his upper rear of his body lands onto the baccarat table.  A couple of women whom were seated adjacent to the guy that fell on the table, jumped up screaming loud curse words.  Several people's chips go all over the place and mass disaster begins. The dealer immediately grabs for the chip rack cover slamming it down on top of her chips and yells as loud as she could for the floor manager who came running over, saying to lock the table down. Of course you can see another couple floor supervisors running over and others calling on the phone.  Within about a minute at most, security officers and a couple local law enforcement officers all came running over.

Just before the officers came over, the guy got in at least two more full face smacks each time the other guy attempted to get back up. They both got quickly handcuffed and taken out off the casino floor. Several floor managers were over at the table and told everybody not to touch any chips and they were calling security and they would run the cameras and find out who had what on the table. All the chips were straightened out and everybody was satisfied they got their chips back that they originally had. 

The guy that owed the money who was seated, the dealer and floor person stacked his chips off to the side of the rack.  Security was called and came to the table with an empty fill box and tray, took the chips and left. 

Like I always said, eventually you'll see it all.

You say 'Streaks' as many do and desire.  Well I love long 7+ IAR streak, all Bankers or all Players.  But, I also have found 'Streaks' to be equally as beautiful and profitable presenting such events as, 'Chop-Chop', 'Doubles', and '1s and 2s'.  Although a bit harder to really get into, but they are prevalent nonetheless. 

As simple as it sounds, "I'm going to wager on whatever is being produced"; it is not easy to gear one's foresight towards all possibly streaky events.

So in all essence, 'Streaky' can most certainly be other events within a 'Section', other than a repetitive IAR series of Bs or Ps.  7-8-9 of anything is not a rarity within most shoes. 

Just for everyone's information from years of live B&M play.

As you said, "In our opinion the only way to erase and possibly invert the HE is by putting things into frames and trying to find reasons and collect data to prove otherwise."

Possibly, 'Sections'?  As I have written about until I was blue in the face.

Lots of merit, however the beginning is always the best IMO, if one is not playing every hand on a mechanical wagering believe.

That second and third "1 and 2", slows down anything good from parlaying. 

I rather do a full parlay or even a 1-3-2-6 or a 1-3-2-8 and then cool off or wait for a bit.

Starting the day.

Back east we occasionally would sprinkle 'magical dust' on the cards before we peeled them, you know for a bit of help. For those that never saw this, it is rubbing your thumb and first two fingers together over the top of the cards. 

Okay let's talk here. I have witnessed countless baccarat  players; strangers, friends and even myself win shoes and sessions. Many frequently doubling, tripling, quadrupling and more their buy-in amounts. And the answers are vast and varied why the players give it all back in pursuit of larger wins, but it happens far more than retaining their wins.  It seriously does 100%.

Probably because of emotional excitement, attempt for loss recouping, belief that their found triggers that just worked will keep producing and repeating themselves, etc., etc., etc.

However in my early days I fit the above non-ability to hold win amounts greater than 50% of my sessions. And of course when I did, my 'great' MMM would be something along the lines of, hold buy-in for next session and increase it with the total amount just won.  Go bigger-harder-play longer and faster.  LoL, a road to no where but to be ground down of the win and the buy-in.

Well all that leads to nowhere, I promise all of you, with every ounce of energy I could ever put forward here. Believe me or not I have no reason to lie to you. 

So many people believe what they read on forums and watch on YouTube about the quick and easy make money wagering triggers/plans/schedules/etc., somewhere between 99.9 and 100% being massive amounts of fallacy and false statements for either attempt at or financial gain, or posted with plain lack of experience.

There are countless systems, books, reasonings and related ways to make money in the game Baccarat. Why are they fallacies? Because they promote contradictory premises and events by confusing the premises they face in themselves and each will poison the well. Think about it.

Seriously, there are certainly groups that subscribe to the above. Those that believe everyone will win if........................; and those that believe everyone will lose if ......................; and the smaller group that takes more of a neutral stance and extracts info that might help them develop advantages to implement within their play. 

In reality, what players 'think' and what actually 'happens' at the tables are two entirely different things. And I know 100% through experience and reality, losses in countless cases happen because people continue playing until all their chips are given back to the casino and then the chase to recoup is on with additional funds. 

Fallacy:  Believing what is not true and cannot work on a repetitive schedule in the game of baccarat.

Experience:  Knowing what MMM will work for you and how to use it with rock solid adherence.  Understanding that there will most likely be a drawdown of your buy-in amount and planning your wagering with that in mind.  What can and probably will not happen.  Not being oblivious to anything and everything can happen during a shoe of baccarat.

Another article this morning released referenced lack of baccarat play as well.

"LAS VEGAS (KLAS) — Nevada casinos posted a $1.3 billion win for the month of September, with downtown Las Vegas reporting its second-highest total ever.

The Las Vegas Strip accounted for more than half of the state's gaming win, taking in $727.7 million from gamblers, while locals casinos brought in $155.9 million, according to figures released Tuesday by the Nevada Gaming Control Board.

The win total for Strip casinos was 1.8% lower than September 2023, before the opening of Fontainebleau Las Vegas and the closing of the Tropicana. Also missing: The Mirage, which is closed as it rebrands under its new owner, Hard Rock.

But overall, it was an average performance. Michael Lawton, senior economic analyst for the Gaming Control Board, said last month that the 12-month average was about $1.3 billion.

Lawton said the Strip was down due to baccarat. Better performances in downtown Las Vegas, on the Boulder Strip, and at locals casinos in Clark County and Washoe County more than offset the Strip's decrease. Lawton noted the state has exceeded $1 billion each month for 43 consecutive months.

If you take away the baccarat factor, the total win on the Strip increased by 7.6% or $45 million compared to September 2023, Lawton said.

Downtown casinos won $91.0 million in September, a 33% improvement over September 2023 and the second only to a $97.5 million win reported in October 2023. The increase was on the strength of slot machines, with a 40.2% increase. The slot win downtown totaled $60.2 million.

The statewide win total for the fiscal year that began July 1, 2024, is down 2.6% compared to the same time period in 2023, a Gaming Control Board news release said. Compared to September 2023, the win total was up 3.3%.

And sports bettors in Nevada didn't fare as well as they did last year.

"Nevada sportsbooks won $80.9 million, up 29.8% compared to September 2023 on a hold percentage of 10.57% vs. 7.68% last year," Lawton said. "This represents a new all-time record beating the previous high of $72.0 million set in November of 2021. Sportsbook wagers totaled $764.6 million, down 5.7% compared to last September when $811.3 million was wagered statewide."