Are these 9 sets based on numerology?

Because regarding numerology there are 9 sets of 4 numbers but not the same as those you are using.

1,10,19,28  are all representatives of number 1, all belong to 1st column and it's the only set which includes black and red numbers.

2,11,20,29  are all representatives of number 2, all belong to 2nd column

3,12,21,30  are all representatives of number 3, all belong to 3rd column

4,13,22,31  are all representatives of number 4, all belong to 1st column

5,14,23,32  are all representatives of number 5, all belong to 2nd column

6,15,24,33  are all representatives of number 6, all belong to 3rd column

7,16,25,34  are all representatives of number 7, all belong to 1st column

8,17,26,35  are all representatives of number 8, all belong to 2nd column

9,18,27,36  are all representatives of number 9, all belong to 3rd column

There are only 9 prime numbers (10 if you include 0), all the rest derive from them.
Pythagoras

Understand the significance of 3,6 and 9 and you will unveil the mysteries of universe.
N. Tesla

3,6 and 9, as well as their derivatives belong to 3rd column, all of them.
Another way to look into it is that 3,6 and 9 are multiples of 3
3 x 1 = 3
3 x 2 = 6
3 x 3 = 9

Another interesting fact is that no matter which number you select, when you add it 3 times (or multiply it by 3) its sum will be 3 or 6 or 9.
For example:
1 x 3 =3
2 x 3 = 6
3 x 3 = 9
4 x 3 = 12 and 1+2=3
5 x 3 = 15 and 1+5=6
6 x 3 = 18 and 1+8=9
7 x 3 = 21 and 2+1=3
8 x 3 = 24 and 2+4=6
9 x 3 = 27 and 2+7=9
10 x 3 = 30 and 3+0=3
11 x 3 = 33 and 3+3=6
12 x 3 = 36 and 3+6=9
13 x 3 = 39 and 3+9=12 and 1+2=3
14 x 3 = 42 and 4+2=6
15 x 3 = 45 and 4+5=9
16 x 3 = 48 and 4+8=12 and 1+2=3
17 x 3 = 51 and 5+1=6
18 x 3 = 54 and 5+4=9
19 x 3 = 57 and 5+7=12 and 1+2=3
20 x 3 = 60 and 6+0=6
21 x 3 = 63 and 6+3=9
22 x 3 = 66 and 6+6=12 and 1+2=3
23 x 3 = 69 and 6+9=15 and 1+5=6
24 x 3 = 72 and 7+2=9
25 x 3 = 75 and 7+5=12 and 1+2=3
26 x 3 = 78 and 7+8=15 and 1+5=6
27 x 3 = 81 and 8+1=9
28 x 3 = 84 and 8+4=12 and 1+2=3
29 x 3 = 87 and 8+7=15 and 1+5=6
30 x 3 = 90 and 9+0=9
31 x 3 = 93 and 9+3=12 and 1+2=3
32 x 3 = 96 and 9+6=15 and 1+5=6
33 x 3 = 99 and 9+9=18 and 1+8=9
34 x 3 = 102 and 1+0+2=3
35 x 3 = 105 and 1+0+5=6
36 x 3 = 108 and 1+0+8=9

What does all these mean?
Perhaps indicating an underlying cause, like a natural frequency.
Nothing matters individually but as a total...

Basic strategy alone is not good enough, consider the 2 following options:

1) Looking for 2 wins in a row has something less than 25% chance to happen or 1 out of 4 trials

2) The dealer to get busted has something more than 33.33% probability to occur or 1 out of 3 decisions

When you win twice in a row you net 3 units (excluding your first wager) or more if these wins coincide with BlacJack(s).
When you lose 75 times out of 100 your bankroll will be depleted by 1 or 2 units.

When you win by the dealer getting busted you could win up to 5 units by betting simultaneously on 5 different boxes.
When the dealer is not busted this doesn't prevent you win by BJ naturals or otherwise.
But you have not to get busted before the dealer, thus you have to take decisions for all boxes and not to hit when you have 12 or more (excluding Aces).
Split only 2,3,6,7,8 and aces only if you could hit after splitting (optionally).

Therefore the second strategy is better because you are going to win 33 times out of 100 5 units (on average), more wins and more profit per win.

Keep a mental count of how many decisions passed since the dealer has been busted last time, bet the required amount of units per box in order to be in overall profit when the bust occurs.

Quote from: ozon on July 29, 2017, 10:08:27 PM
The progression of which I wrote unfortunately is not too good for the BM casino, sometimes you need 400-500 spins to get out plus in very heavy sessions.
Calculations are also complicated and you have to play each spin.

Not so practical in short, makes you wonder if it worths to bother.

I believe it doesn't have to do with your progression specifically but with EC payout in general.
I've said several times before that gaining an edge by betting ECs is possible but the profit would be so puny which doesn't worth the time, effort and money invested in my consideration.

On roulette I play only straight up numbers, besides if you are fond of EC bets then why to bother with roulette when you can find better odds on Craps, Baccarat and Blackjack?

Quote from: ozon on July 29, 2017, 09:09:24 PM
I just have progressions, similar to Albalaha.
Prepared for the heaviest sessions, is unfortunately to slow on the live wheel.
The simulations look great,
But RNG gives such a series that mathematics has nothing to say.
I played this progression really much, betvoyager was not the worst.
Software netent like royal panda. Crazy sessions. Unbelievable deviations.
I does not save the session, but after my progression and spins amounts sometimes I can judge how bad the session was.
And  when  i lose  session after session, i  know  is  something  wrong.

I believe you are telling the truth, but I'd like to listen Albalaha regarding RNGs in general and BetVoyager specifically.

It's hard when you lose with a sophisticated progression/selection and on the same time a degenerated gambler wins big amounts by playing slots, this is where your money goes, to progressive jackpots! What a joke!

Your well thought plan/strategy doomed just because you, like everybody else, has to lose no matter what method you are applying!

It's a sugarcoated stuff that they expect us to swallow, but we don't have to!
Afterall luck beats brains and nothing can stand against a sequence from hell(?)

If the kind of progressions you are using are ''slow'' in profit then perhaps are not worth to bother at B&M casinos, or you should use higher value per unit to make it worth the time at the tables.

Quote from: ozon on July 29, 2017, 08:16:59 PM
Blue Angel
You count on less deviation in subsequent spins, but it may not happen.
I experienced worse sessions on betvoyager RNG, where for 500 spin deviations were unreal, maybe on the live wheel would be to avoid.
But RNG will destroy such progressions in a moment

I thought users Albalaha and beathewheel have already posted the worst of the worst, if you have seen worse than those then you should post such sequence in order to scrutinise it.
It's hard to believe you've experienced worse than all of these harsh sessions here and at: ''does anyone think that can beat such bad streak?''.

There is a pearl of simplicity called d'Alembert.

Its principle is crystal clear and rock solid, for every loss there is a win, the only question is how much time and money needed in order to overcome even the worst possible situation?
D'Alembert doesn't need to reach equilibrium state in order to become profitable but a 35% wins approximately will suffice.

I've checked all of the horrible sessions here and from user ''beatthewheel'' and the worst was 67 wins VS 133 losses, which is 66 losses more than the wins, after that point this difference will be reduced gradually and within the next 100 to 200 outcomes D'Alembert would turn things around by ending up with a profît even after such terrible results.

A lifetime bankroll equal to the worst scenario (67 wins VS 133 losses), would be approximately something less than 2,500 units, in such extreme deviation the max bet would reach 67 units and the max duration till profit would be approximately 370 bets/results.
I understand that for some sounds too much money and time but we are talking about winning every possible sequence under the sun!

In my consideration it is like investment rather than gambling, 2500 units lifetime bankroll it's an amount which you are going to double it within a month from the time you start.

What I'm saying is not subjective but certainty as the sun will dawn tomorrow. period

Are you still seeking for HGs??

Quote from: esoito on July 14, 2017, 03:21:47 AM
I mention all this not to brag. 

And not to sell anything -- nothing is for sale.

But to reassure members on two points:

1  flat betting can work if you find the right bet and play short sessions. It certainly works for me, as you can see above.

Flat bet provides milder fluctuations, your highs will be lower and your lows will be higher, all in all no advantage there.
Besides, if you really believe in what you are doing why not reinforcing selection with a progression?

Quote from: esoito on July 14, 2017, 03:21:47 AM
2  despite naysayers and closed minds there are profitable approaches if one is prepared to be open-minded [not gullible], creative, explorative and -- above all -- patient.

Suspending disbelief can so often have positive effects.


Some Advice

If they've read this far, some will shake their heads and probably wonder if I'm the full dozen in the egg carton. Doesn't bother me. I'm the one with the runs on the board!

A few might decide to follow-up some of the ideas in the Brainstorming thread.

If that's you, then a word of advice:  If you're not a persistent or a patient person, then my advice is don't do it.

Why?

Because you will likely become very frustrated, irritable and stressed during the process. And that's not good, especially if you're in a relationship.

I'm embracing your thesis, great advice! 

Quote from: esoito on July 14, 2017, 03:21:47 AM
And Finally...

Any requests for more information on my approaches mentioned above will fall on deaf ears [or, rather, blind eyes] so don't bother.

I have no intention of giving away the fruits of months and months of time, patience, persistence, creativity and energy.


Follow your own star...

Nobody asked you a thing, so what are you blathering about?
Perhaps you secretly hope for someone to offer you a good deal of money in order to convince you.
Last but not least, since you always bet by softwares I assume you are not playing at B&M casinos, or your approach will be as good as random without your electronic aid.

QuoteSo Albalaha might like to enlighten us all by explaining his phrase "voodoo ideas".

Apologies for taking the liberty to reply even if that wasn't meant for me.

I interpret the terminology ''voodoo ideas'' as unorthodox approaches, but just consider the following;
What would the world have been without experimentation, without trial and error?
The accumulation of generations after generation of experience expansion and knowledge evolution have shaped our level of consciousness accordingly and when the level of awareness changes the whole world follows.

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on July 13, 2017, 08:35:51 PM
Pure gold. No jokes.

as.

Thank you for your kind words, really appreciated it.

Quote from: plolp on July 13, 2017, 06:25:11 PM
Just to say that ramtha = sect .

What's the meaning of this?

Quote from: Mike on July 13, 2017, 10:41:12 AM
Thanks esoito. Good luck with your testing of the RSW system. I have to say that  I might be a little less sceptical if there weren't several links to online casinos at the end of the document. 

Are you implying that Max acting as affiliate of online casinos?

If Max fails to reply this, it would mean that he silently confirms it.

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AM
Forecasting a sports bet could be somewhat realistic and can help a bit in winning but trying to predict in a random game like roulette or baccarat is simply insane.

Well that's your opinion, nothing more.
Just because you perceive reality according to your comprehension abilities doesn't mean that everybody's reality must reflect yours.

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AM
I am sorry if I am harsh to anybody thinking opposite.

Apology accepted.

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AM
Flat bet winning is out of question.

I agree on this one.

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AM
Trends, patterns, neighbours, sectors all are illusions merely.

You speak like some kind of gambling authority, rushing to discard everything, should we take your word as ''de facto''?
In my point of view there is no simple yes or no answer, it depends...

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AM
Numbers are merely different pockets totally unrelated to each other. A failed mind tries to see hope in these things knowing well that they are illusions alone.

This is also your subjective opinion.

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AM
One noted author offered various imaginary figures on wheel like nuke, bowtie, pies and hell what not. I asked him how these numbers relate and even if they do how can we earn from this supreme knowledge. As expected, no justification ever offered.

You are talking about Kimo Li, why don't you be direct on your target?
Afraid of confrontation?

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AM
Now comes the money management part. Traditionally, all suggested money management ideas are simply disasters on their own in just a couple of tests or just by thinking rationally. One approach handles one type of variance and another type kills it instantly taking away more than it could earn being fortunate, so far.
For example, take martingale. Say, we take a 10 step marty, it can let us win in very extreme cases and fetch 1 unit profit again and again till a 10 step loss steps in and takes away 1023 units in one go. Irreparable loss. Same is true with other MMs like labby, fibo, D'alembert, Oscar Grind or anyone else you have heard of.

I partially agree, not all of them are the same.
Sometimes you don't have to reinvent the wheel but rearrange your perception angle.

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AM
Silly versions of these progressions made by laymen(remember, most oldschool progressions were suggested by mathematicians) made it even foolish. A classic case is HP Johnson progression that was boasted as a panacea in another forum while it is even bad an idea and a simple mix of flat betting, labouchere and martingale which is set to fail if losses come bulked up at a particular span. I demonstrated that and that forum got so angry that I spoiled their hard earned "fool's gold". Many "innovators" are merely ignorant of what their MMs will undergo in long run due to inability to simulate.

HP Johnson progression is a failure indeed and there are plenty of such around the web.
What surprises and irritates me on the same time is the amount of followers of such failures, are so many people below par IQ? 

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AM
I usually do not interrupt in these topics as I have no right to frustrate each and every idea even if it is meant to harm many believers. My point is I do not want to create many new line of losers by suggesting something even I am not sure of.

How kind of you, the gambling world is doing just fine without your hollow contributions.
As a matter of fact I don't remember anything useful coming from you but just criticism, pessimism, negativity, empty claims, nothing of substantial value.
Trying and failing is better than not trying at all.

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AM
Remember one very important thing regarding progressions. They seek specific spots or ratio or order to win. None of them can handle all variety that can come. If you keep getting wins in your sweet spots, you win the game otherwise the same heavenly progression will kill your money.
It doesn't mean there is no way to win. We can win a game with slight edge if we can counter the edge wisely with a very cautious progressive betting capable of handling the worst probabilities with bearable loss.

To my surprise I completely I agree with this paragraph! 

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AM
I have worked on that aspect, got successful so far. Working to even better that. Playing EC bets on European roulette or "Player" in baccarat are my only choice of betselection.

Regarding EC bets, if you can do well on roulette and baccarat then you'd do even better on blackjack.
Since you completely disregard bet selection then why not to avoid the 0's of roulette and gain extra from BJ's? (3 for 2 payout)

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AM
Although inside betting still gives me goosebumps and manageable, any EC bet with less house edge is the way to go.

This is also not a universal reality.

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AM
I am aghast with one or two members here who are taking a forum as their personal facebook. They are loading where they ate, moved, farted and everything except anything even slightly valuable to a gambling community. If members are OK with this or have no other option, none can help. Frankly speaking, 90% of discussions are not even worthy of being opened to read just from the subject line.

Unfortunately things have changed during the last few years within online gambling community, I don't know why.
There was a time when forums flourished with new interesting ideas, constructive debates, great feedback/participation and constantly fresh registrations, now you almost see same stuff every day.
People gradually lost their interest and motivation to participate and share, is ''trolling'' the sole reason? I think not...

Quote from: wannawin on July 12, 2017, 04:47:11 PM
are you talking about using visual ballistics to decide which number sector is not going to come out?  This possibility crossed my mind as the only visual ballistics for someone not seasoned like me.  by discarding a small area of two numbers you could have one viable system based on physics.  interesting possibility.

No, I was not referring to VB specifically, find ANY method which its prediction is as ineffective as possible, or at least worse than average, and reverse it to your advantage.
Win by not trying to predict, the beauty of it is to see the positive within the negative.
If for example I lay 2 numbers and lose per 50 spins on average then I'd gain 15 units net per 50 bets on average, not a 'killer' but could turn out to pretty consistent one.
Methods could be from software, statistics, hunches, physics...you name it!
Just pick the most persistent loser and reverse it.
We know that few numbers are long term sleepers, despite that this is 100% true for every time, we don't know which are going to be those numbers.
But a number before goes missing for 150 spins, it will be absent for 50 spins, so we pick such number and the reasoning is that it's already sleeping for 50 spins, why not for 1 more??
Of course numbers wake up eventually but timing is a strange thing, when you categorize all numbers by their hits and how long are be absent since their last appearance you witness the connection of them...
Top layer connects with the bottom and the second from the top, second layer connects with the top and the third, the third connects with the second and the fourth, the fourth connects with the third and the fifth...and so on.
In other words each layer/category of numbers is being effectively connected with their two bordering layers, when one number is hit then that group/layer as well as its two bordering layers are being activated.
Most of the times the focus stays at one layer/group for up to 2 consecutive times, then moves to the bordering layers.
Of course there are exceptions but why worrying about the minorities?
If you compare the positions of each group on the wheel layout you'd notice that the numbers of the same layer/group don't fall close as wheel neighbors, but neighbors contain nūmbers from different layers/groups...

If someone wants to be long term winner he/she has to act like the casino.
The casino doesn't attempting to predict but profits when predictions fail.
It's much more easier to gain from what is not going to happen rather than trying to predict what will happen.
Although simpler but less profitable for the individual bankroll, even with an edge of 2.7% you wouldn't become rich because casino profits are leveraged by the multiple accumulated bankrolls at risk any given time.
In short, there is big difference between 2.7% of 1,000 and 2.7% of 1,000,000...
However, if you find it attractive idea then try winning by predicting which very few numbers are not going to show any time soon rather than the opposite.

QuoteOnce you know how to bypass, and even foresee such profit-obstructing factors, roulette becomes a really enjoyable game as well as a nice side income source.

If your reality was so promising then you would not had the necessity of any job, thus you would not be a part timer.

Let me guess, sometimes you win while other times you lose and you remain in positive overall, but it's not sufficient to support your way of life.
The professional player, not only remains in positive, but his/her sole income source is exclusively from casino activity.

You are better than the majority but still inferior to pros.
Don't get it the wrong way, all I'm trying to say is that you've a solid basis but further development required.