You are standing by the table and see Red as the result, what would you bet next?

Please choose 1 of the following:

1)    Red
2)    Black
3)    Zero
4)    The table
5)    Time to leave

I took the idea by reversing completely the system DNA of roulette, by the way, I've never understood what a betting 1 dozen  and 1 column has to do with the law of the thirds.

So here we go:

On the table I separate numbers in groups of 4, those  groups are:

1 4 7 10

2 5 8 11

3 6 9 12

13 16 19 22

14 17 20 23

15 18 21 24

25 28 31 34

26 29 32 35

27 30 33 36

Every time  there are 2 numbers of the same group, back to back, in a row, (that's the trigger) bet the other 2 dozens and the other 2 columns for a total bet of 4 units.

Example:

After number 1 comes number 7, in this case you should bet the 2nd, 3rd dozens plus the 2nd and 3rd columns with 1 unit each.
There are 5 numbers which make us lose 4 units, 16 numbers which make us lose 1 unit and 16 numbers which make us win 2 units net.

If you win that's good, wait for the next trigger opportunity, if you lost, no matter if it's 1 or 4 units, wait for the next trigger.
I'm going to explain a bit about the steps of the progression, since our expected payout is 2 units we should divide the running negative total by 2, for example we lose 4 units so the next bet must be 2 units on each of the dozens and columns and by winning it we are breaking even.

Initial bet 1 unit on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win +2, lose -1  or -4

-1 } bet 1 unit on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win +1, lose -2  or -5

-2 } bet 1 unit on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win and break even, lose -3 or -6

-3 } bet 2 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win +1, lose -5 or -11

-4 } bet 2 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win and break even, lose -6 or -12

-5 } bet 3 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win +1, lose -8 or -17

-6 } bet 3 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win and break even, lose -9 or -18

-7 } bet 4 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win +1, lose -11 or -23

-8 } bet 4 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win and break even, lose -12 or -24

-9 } bet 5 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win +1, lose -14 or -29

-10 } bet 5 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win and break even, lose -15 or -30

-11 } bet 6 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win +1, lose -17 or -35

-12 } bet 6 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win and break even, lose -18 or -36

-13 } bet 7 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win +1, lose -20 or -41

-14 } bet 7 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win and break even, lose -21 or -42

-15 } bet 8 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win +1, lose -23 or -47

-16 } bet 8 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win and break even, lose -24 or -48

-17 } bet 9 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win +1, lose -26 or -53

-18 } bet 9 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win and break even, lose -27 or -54

-19 } bet 10 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win +1, lose -29 or -59

-20 } bet 10 units on each 2 dozens and 2 columns, win and break even, lose -30 or -60

What is past?
Is it the time which has passed away?
Past is 1 minute ago, 1 year ago or a millenia.
Past has existed but it doesn't exist any longer.

What is future?
Future is after 1 minute, after 1 year, after 1 millenia.
Future will exist but it doesn't exist right now.

What is present?
It is this constant temporarily moment, it's a thin line which separates something which has existed but doesn't exist now from something which will exist but doesn't exist at the moment.

Under this perception I regard time as unreal, or human's invention if you prefer.
Past, present and future can never exist in the same instance, the proper definition of time is:
"a schedule of events placed in a specific linear order".

Thus aging is not the effect of time but the biological consequences of the human body.
Perhaps in the future longevity would be reality, but "time-machines" belong in the fictitious sphere.

What  all these have to do with roulette?
Roulette has events too, many events actually.

So, let's  say we want to gather a small sample of those events, therefore the first step is to create a list with 37 last numbers.
Next step is to focus on three points;

1) Bet the furthest back (older) number } PAST

2) Bet the before last (penultimate) number } PRESENT

3) Bet the last number } FUTURE

This goes on for a maximum of 36 successive results or till the point you are in positive.
I'm going to give you an example:

34 <-------- Past starts here and descending (older)
8
33
16
0
9
15
36
8
6
24
5
28
33
7
3
4
26
34
2
36
4
0
24
10
8
13
14
6
13
6
20
26
9
16
3 <--------- Present starts here and ascending (before last)
6 <--------- Future starts here and goes on as the futured results are unfolding
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

26 <------- Bet 34 (past), 3 (present) and 6 (future)  Result: -3 units
20 <------- Bet 8 (past), 16 (present) and 26 (future) Result: -3 units
12 <------- Bet 33 (past), 9 (present) and 20 (future) Result: -3 units
15 <------- Bet 16 (past), 26 (present) and 12 (future) Result: -3 units
5   <------- Bet 0 (past), 20 (present) and 15 (future) Result: -3 units
2   <------- Bet 9 (past), 6 (present) and 5 (future) Result: -3 units
3   <------- Bet 15 (past), 13 (present) and 2 (future) Result: -3 units
14 <------- Bet 36 (past), 6 (present) and 3 (future) Result: -3 units
2 <------- Bet 8 (past), 14 (present) and *14 (future) Result: -3 units *Optionally 2 units on the same number
18 <------- Bet 6 (past), 13 (present) and 2 (future) Result: -3 units
18 <------- Bet 24 (past), 8 (present) and 18 (future) Result: +33 units (33 - 30 = +3 units net)
2   <------- At this point there are 2 options: restart the procedure or quit the session
11
36
14
25
9
24
5
4
11
23
12
30
12
8
34
13
22
7
5
13
12
10
12
1
32

I'd like to hear your comments, feedback and suggestions

Quote from: Albalaha on July 27, 2016, 07:01:43 AM
This recalls me to the famous/infamous Pattern Breaker.Betting anything doesn't change the probability. You can neither change odds nor can you avoid tricky/bad stretches. Therefore, picking any COMPLEX looking betselection doesn't help by itself. It is only as good as playing RED.

The only realistic approach regarding EC bets is according their grand total and not their sequence.
When a selection has roughly 50% probability, its total could deviate from the average but gradually will bounce back.
This happens all the time with different degrees of deviations, but nothing practical and realistic can be used by trying to predict in which order events will happen, you should focus on the totals not the sequence.

Quote from: Gizmotron on July 26, 2016, 06:55:18 PM
In a double dozen bet ( 24) numbers the payoff is 1 to 2, example 28 & 28 wins only 28, but loses 56.

So on the first win at 28 on each 12 numbers (doz/col) you win 28.

Take that 28 and split it for 14 & 14 each on your next 2 dozens or 2 columns.

Those next 6 spins are a free ride while taking a little as you go.

It's the same kind of a choice you made for your first step on those 50/50 progression bets you started with at the top of this thread.

I've been using this type of a positive progression for years. It's posted somewhere around here. The idea of letting it ride, just not all of it as you go, is a good way to go.

You could start with 24 & 24 or 12 & 12, I just suggest that you start with any number that splits to an even number. It could be 28 nickels, 28 $25 chips, or even 12 $100 chips. I'm just showing you how to apply this logic to double dozen bets.

Indeed, a streak on 24 is easier than a streak on 18 numbers but it costs more money.

An idea was to bet the last 24 numbers (unique) you need approximately 40 spins to gather them.
Another idea was to play for up to 2 or maximum 3 wins in a row.

Just my 5 cents

Quote from: james on July 25, 2016, 06:55:11 PM
Thanks GR8 for your post. The efficiency of VDW will be greatly enhanced by keeping the count of DBL and ODBL in two separate columns in the spreadsheet. For example in the spreadsheet shown in post 193 the count is 23 for DBL and 17 for ODBL at the end of the shoe and VDW won in the shoe. If the ODBL count is high wait for the shoe to turn to DBL and refrain from betting.

VDW is selective in betting and hence your loss will be reduced. For example in the shoe in post 193, there are 42 decisions and if you bet DBL/ODBL you will be betting 40 decisions. But VDW in this sample bets only 28 decisions, so your loss is reduced by 30%.

In the final analysis VDW is calculated guessing!

And if you don't bet at all your loss would be reduced to 0%, certainly an improvement!

This is how fallacies are being borned, you can never have guaranteed wins by observing 3,6,9,27 or so results, there will be ALWAYS 2 possible outcomes; win or lose, your choice.
Scientific absurdities like this one is no way better than playing against 10 bankers in a row with doubling up progressions!

Quote from: Gizmotron on July 26, 2016, 06:06:12 PM
You like these kinds of things?

Here is a house-of-cards positive styled progression where you can reap as go.

Double Dozens/Columns Bets:

1.) 28 -- 28  (after win take off 28 (14 + 14) and let it ride)

2.) 14 -- 14  (after win take off 6) +6

3.) 36 -- 36  (after win take off 9) +15

4.) 45 -- 45  (after win take off 18) +33

5.) 50 -- 50  (after win take off 35) +68

6.) 40 -- 40  (after win take off 70) +138

7.) 35 -- 35  (after win take off 105) +243

You have 61% or 64% chance of winning that first bet, respectively

It's easy to find a streak of singles or a sleeping dozen streak in the double dozen/column bets.

Why to begin with 28 + 28 units?

Quote from: BetJack on July 26, 2016, 12:19:36 PM
Hello
Just a reply
I think this is just like the work of
John Pathric
Regrestion Up and Pull
Bet (2) Regrestion (1) Up (2) and Pull(3),(4),(5),(6)
You can try it with double regresion
(2),(1),(2),(1),(2),(3),(4)
Any way the guy has some book(s).
He has a Forum.

With respest BetJack

P.s. sorry for any bad grammar

Yes, indeed

QuoteOne can use these sessions as acid test for any method.

Thanks

QuoteWe need to bet each decision and not trying to be smart here " I would have not played this" or "such harshness isn't possible in my bet" etc.
         These sessions are extracted from a long excel tracker having nearly 23 kinds of EC bets.

The name of this forum is "bet selection", by making those kind of statements you disregard and disrespect the very essence of this forum.

Can a progression wins disregarding completely the betting selection??

That has yet to be seen and verified, in my opinion, a progression supports a selection and the selection the progression.

You cannot have one without the other, simple as that.

Quote from: MarkTeruya on July 25, 2016, 01:58:22 PM
The thing to remember about threads such as this by Albalaha, is that solutions are posted and then he proceeds to delete them, no doubt like he will do with this post.   Albalaha is here for one purpose only, he is phishing as far as he can for fresh meat, i.e customers, he is a seller, has been for over 10 years.   

The common sense says that if you had such a solution which is able to beat such harsh sessions, you would be able to win every session and make as much money as you want.
So why bothering with profit from sales??!
It doesn't make sense, doesn't it?

Quote from: Tomla on July 24, 2016, 09:34:30 PM
when do you raise your progression?

Obviously you didn't bother to read the second post, the answer is there.

Quote from: ozon on July 24, 2016, 08:51:55 PM
This progression looks very good, but if the last bets lose, it does not grow as martingale?
If so, RNG kill this progression in the moment.
What stoplose You recommending ?

I don't use any, instead I'm using an extra parameter only when needed.

QuoteNice thought for motivation but luck may be defined as when a person gets great time without deserving.

That's another way to view the same thing.

Also, you could define luck as:

Good luck and bad luck have a common element, something which has very low probability to happen but happens, if it's for our benefit we call it good luck, if it's against us we call it bad luck.

THE 17 ENIGMA:


1 * 17 = 17 = 8
2 * 17 = 34 = 7
3 * 17 = 51 = 6
4 * 17 = 68 = 14 = 5
5 * 17 = 85 = 13 = 4
6 * 17 = 102 = 3
7 * 17 = 119 = 11 = 2
8 * 17 = 136 = 10 = 1
9 * 17 = 153 = 9
10 * 17 = 170 = 8
11 * 17 = 187 = 16 = 7
12 * 17 = 204 = 6
13 * 17 = 221 = 5
14 * 17 = 238 = 13 = 4
15 * 17 = 255 = 12 = 3
16 * 17 = 272 = 11 = 2
17 * 17 = 289 = 19 = 10 = 1


Aristotle describes the "Unmoved Mover" as being perfectly beautiful, indivisible, and contemplating only the perfect contemplation: itself contemplating, the Active Intellect.


1. There exists movement in the world.


2. Things that move were set into motion by something else.


3. If everything that moves were caused to move by something else, there would be an infinite chain of causes. This can't happen.


4. Thus, there must have been something that caused the first movement.


5. From 3, this first cause cannot itself have been moved.


6. From 4, there must be an "Unmoved Mover".




For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.


B. Pascal



"When goodness is lost, it is replaced by morality."


"The usefulness of a pot comes from its emptiness."


"The best people are like water, which benefits all things and does not compete with them.
It stays in lowly places that others reject. This is why it is so similar to the Way."


"When people see some things as beautiful, other things become ugly.
When people see some things as good, other things become bad."


"Try to change it and you will ruin it. Try to hold it and you will lose it."


"Those who know do not say. Those who say do not know."


"A journey of a thousand miles starts under one's feet."


"The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be."


Laozi, Tao Te Ching