Just an update report from the 10,000 spins file from random.org

After 1048 results I'm +110 units

Max bet 16 units

Max drawdown -161 units, from +55 to -106 in 121 spins, recovered at +70 units after 30 spins. 

Quote from: Big EZ on February 29, 2016, 12:45:15 AM
This is an extreme question, but.....
Will your 30shows in 111spins single dozen progression come out ahead if the single dozen you are betting only starts to show at spin 81? Meaning you only get your 30 shows in the last 30 spins.

I'm going to give you an example regarding your question.

R=result B=bet T=total VB=virtual balance

R    B     T     VB
L    1     -1    60
L    1     -2    60
L    1     -3    60
L    1     -4    60
L    1     -5    60
L    1     -6    60
L    1     -7    60
L    1     -8    60
L    1     -9    60
L    1    -10   60
L    1    -11   60
L    1    -12   60
L    1    -13   60
L    1    -14   60
L    1    -15   60
L    1    -16   60
L    1    -17   60
L    1    -18   60
L    1    -19   60
L    1    -20   60
L    1    -21   60
L    1    -22   60
L    1    -23   60
L    1    -24   60
L    1    -25   60
L    1    -26   60
L    1    -27   60
L    1    -28   60
L    1    -29   60
L    1    -30   60
L    1    -31   60
L    1    -32   60
L    1    -33   60
L    1    -34   60
L    1    -35   60
L    1    -36   60
L    1    -37   60
L    1    -38   60
L    1    -39   60
L    1    -40   60
L    1    -41   60
L    1    -42   60
L    1    -43   60
L    1    -44   60
L    1    -45   60
L    1    -46   60
L    1    -47   60
L    1    -48   60
L    1    -49   60
L    1    -50   60
L    1    -51   60
L    1    -52   60
L    1    -53   60
L    1    -54   60
L    1    -55   60
L    1    -56   60
L    1    -57   60
L    1    -58   60
L    1    -59   60
L    1    -60   60
L    2    -62   120
L    2    -64   120
L    2    -66   120
L    2    -68   120
L    2    -70   120
L    2    -72   120
L    2    -74   120
L    2    -76   120
L    2    -78   120
L    2    -80   120
L    2    -82   120
L    2    -84   120
L    2    -86   120
L    2    -88   120
L    2    -90   120
L    2    -92   120
L    2    -94   120
L    2    -96   120
L    2    -98   120
L    2   -100   120
L    2   -102   120
W   2   -98    116
W   2   -94    112
W   2   -90    108
W   2   -86    104
W   2   -82    100
W   2   -78    96
W   2   -74    92
W   2   -70    88
W   2   -66    84
W   2   -62    80
W   2   -58    76
W   2   -54    72
W   2   -50    68
W   2   -46    64
W   2   -42    60
W   2   -38    56
W   2   -34    52
W   2   -30    48
W   2   -26    44
W   2   -22    40
W   2   -18    36
W   2   -14    32
W   2   -10    28
W   2   -6     24
W   2   -2     20
W   2   +2    16
W   2   +6    12
W   2   +10   8
W   2   +14   4
W   2   +18   0

You might think that this happened because I knew the results, but be sure that I'd have done exactly the same thing with different results.

Conquers the one who endures!

Quote from: Denzie on February 28, 2016, 08:50:01 PM
You got our attention buddy. Shoot...

Sorry but I don't wish to share it.

1) Just find the minimum possible occurrences for your bet selection within a total of results.

2) Then try to calculate a progression which is not been affected by which turn are going to occur the wins and losses and also the bankroll and max bet to be reasonable and not too high.

Atlantis,

My approach is different because I don't wait at all, I just start to bet immediately and without interruptions till my session ends.

This 30/111 ratio is already low, you might make it look like 20/111 and still makes no significant difference for my progression.

User "beat-the-wheel" is using nickname "weird" on roulette30 forum, I gave only to him a progression for single dozen with an example of how to win when there are only 30 wins in 111 results.

Beat-the-wheel or should I say "weird" confirm what I said but don't post details about my progression.

It doesn't really matter, if he was a woman that wouldn't make him more reliable, gender ad credibility are irrelevant.

I can tell you he is male because I listen his voice on one of his videos.

Yes, the progression stays the same but without proper selection I'd have already been busted like betjack.

QuotePossibly, but I doubt it. There are head shots in most of the vids on Reyth's youtube site -- why go to so much trouble and for what reason?

Mike

Because Kavouras pay him/her.
Also must be of Mexican origin.

Just a report:

User ''betjack'' busted on 679th spin when his maximum bet was 64 units and lost 629 units total.

After 765 spins I'm on a new high of 76 units, the max bet never exceed  the 16 units, while the max drawdown was 106 units so far.

I'll report here from time to time.

Mike,
seems this time you are right, never thought a woman as moderator of roulette forum!:-D

Quote from: Jimske on February 27, 2016, 02:11:05 PM
Yep. I never question anyone's statements of winning and losing.  But I do take them with a grain of salt if they don't keep good accounts.  I often times hear "I know I win more than lose." or "I'm about even." etc. etc.  Generally these people got no real idea, IMO. 

Anyone who has spent hours and years at the tables knows that it's easy to underestimate losses due to fatigue, alcohol maybe?, or just selective memory.  It's easy to rationalize losses by including comped rooms, dinners, gifts, etc.  There was a time when I kept sloppy records and soon found out that I was confused about my own standings.

Maybe it's just my suspicious nature but even at my small level of play I hide winnings from the casino.  I just don't want them knowing my business.  There are times when I play almost daily so it's imperative for me to keep a ledger every single day.

I don't include comps but I understand why one might.  Personally the only comps that I value are for items that I would purchase if I weren't gambling.  When I was playing BJ I used to get thousands of points and spend them on Christmas gifts every year (until they froze my account).  So items like that are worthwhile to include in a profit loss statement.  Otherwise, dinners, rooms   Nah, I don't go to the casino for a vacation - I go to the islands!

I totally agree with you with only one exception;
You cannot hide from a casino, when a professional plays regularly (5+ days/week) the casino knows what he is doing (method,balance) and if by any chance you get in their focus they run background checks too...
Even when you have the invincible/infallible method you cannot hide from the casino because the personel behind the cams are always there, players at the tables might change from time to time but not them, they have a file on every noteworthy player.

Quote from: Mike on February 27, 2016, 02:00:24 PM
BA,

How do you know Reyth provided false information? If you're so certain the system can't fail, why do you want it coded?

BTW, I'm pretty sure that Reyth is a she, not a he. Not that it really matters or means anything.

I wanted coded to run it automatically on online casinos while I'm playing it at brick and mortar casinos.
No, Reyth is he and his name is <edited-out>.

On a private message Reyth told me that Kav bet is working for him with 5000 units bankroll...
Actually the bet selection is public, never changes, so what we don't know about it?
The money management is the only thing J.K. never made common knowledge, but to pay in order to learn the money management? I don't think so.
In my opinion, whatever selection doesn't change is not flexible to adapt to the ever changing roulette flow, thus destined to fail. 

The law, thanks for supporting me without even requesting it from you, I really appreciate it!
I'm talking about the forum roulette30 and my topic "Fallacious Holy Grail", I've read your comments...
Indeed Kavouras was trying to cover Reyth but he shouldn't because Reyth provided false information, however, I think Kavouras is good person, not like Reyth.

At least if Reyth was saying that he reached 128 units instead of 512 it would be more believable!
He never post that session, not even said the name of the online casino!

In the end tried to flatter you by saying "I still remember what you've learned me that if a system is going to lose it will be within the first 10,000 spins".
But by saying this is contradicting himself because the example of the worst sequence ever, which FHG wins, was 1 out of literally millions of results!

When I'll finish the 10k results we will have a proof of why a progression is insufficient without the proper bet selection.

So far I'm approximately on 500th spin and never bet more than 2 units with worst balance -12 and current balance +41 (higher too).

User "betjack" had reached 16 units bet and -67 units worst balance, his current balance is -5 while his higher balance was +36.

Quote from: BetJack on February 26, 2016, 07:22:16 PM
Hello
I 've done the test with this method of betting cyclical martingales
... win win ... and then lose a lot
... could be wrong
.... formula can be mistaken
I'm not very good with excel

my STOP LOSS was 600u

numbers are from file
10K RNG spins, single zero, generated by Random.org
www.roulette30.com

p.s. I had such high hopes that this will be a profitable method

From the first sight I recognize  a fundamental mistake, you are betting always the same side.
My method is not just a progression, but selection by charting ALL EC's as well.
As you might understand this is very important difference.
However, now I've already begun calculating all the results, since there are 10k and I'm doing it manually I'll need time to finish.

Betjack,have you done this manually?
I've requested Les Howell to RX code my method but didn't get any reply, by the way does anyone knows how to RX code my method?