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#211
Poor understanding and do the most basics wrong.

For example if i have 14 contra 1 event - then we know for the next 24 events we will recive at least 4 hits - we know this for a fact.
But is not the same as having a crystal ball which tell you what will happen in the furthure - but it is the expectation and probability after several million simulations and you will probably not break a new World record you time at the table.

So you can not assume getting more hits to recover from 20 loses and 2 wins - that is a false positive and why his method does not work.
And his assumption is wrong about waiting for 3.0 SD - that is just one example - they can grow to 3.5 or 4.0 or 4.5 SD without betting - you just observe.
Betting against 4.5 SD is silly and you can not recover with any existing staking plan.

The hole concept he present is wrong from the beginning.
And we can get 3.0 SD and above without betting at anytime without Charting and tracking or wait.
You only attack when there is a change present, so any SD can grow without you do nothing.
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Quote from: Albalaha on July 20, 2016, 04:21:24 AM
Session #13: This may be the worst one ever seen:

    446 Losses vs  354 wins

ONLY 65 WINS IN FIRST 200 SPINS
NEXT 200 SPINS BRING 89 WINS ONLY
NEXT 100 SPINS GOT 46 WINS ONLY
NO BIG WINNING STREAK EVER TO HELP with compare to losing streaks




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This session is easy to win, you only hit 3.0 SD once or 14 contra 2
And 15 contra 2 once which is 3.15 SD - nothing extreme about that sequense, very common.

He is caculating the SD wrong and don't understand that the imbalance happend within a window around 16 to 25 events or you skip that particular imbalance.
The limit goes around 16 to 50 and better 16 to 40 which make the strenght behind the SD signficant, when you stretch things over 50 to 100 to 150 you lose strenght and the path for regression gets weaker.
#213

Alberto we invite BetJack and i send him PM
#214
 Well that is thanks to me that you know about Regression towards the mean as i introduce it into gambling boards the year 2005 at VIP Lounge.

And your assumption is wrong, you can not and should not Place 19 losing bets with 3 winnings bets, that is a waste of time and Money.
In real Life or real game you can not survive waiting for the bad strike to happen, because it might be no time left to play so you will lose.
And there is no progression that can cover 0.00 SD to 6.00 SD so you will fail.

We measuring the statistical Ecart and Variance and have done several million simulations.
So if you want to spend your Life trying to win the Lottery (experience above 5.59 SD) you will probably die Before you will experience it in real Life or real game.

The result above is nothing 2.84 SD or 13 contra 2 as worst and drop to 1.60 SD.

This is also one thing you do wrong, your expectation should be 1/3 or 1/4 of regression or less after a strong imbalance which is just a coupel of hits.
You base you method upon many winnings after the worst and extreme which is rare and is not working with any kind of staking plan to recoup.

You need to narrow down things into Cut Point Methodology and not try to invent whe Wheel again.

Cheers
#215
 My scale is valid and i can measuring several different combination during one sample with 100 trails and measuring SD.
So if you use 100 trails i get 300 using R&B H&L O&E with one combination and 600 using two combination and 900 charting three combinations and 1200 using four combinations.

This means i see 3.0 SD and above several times in real World just tracking and charting for 3 hours.

You have to understand, if you are going to play against the worst and the extreme you should only measuring the first 100 trails as you need the next 200.
That is what you should base your playing model upon if you want to succed.

But with only one single combination you will charting and tracking the Wheel for weeks with out experience 3.0 SD or above in the real World.
And you have to share you method with me if i am going to belive that you can bet from 0.00 to 6.00 SD without losing, my opinion it can not be done (you need virtual trigger)

Shall also mention that it does not matter how the animal or worst or extreme look like - you can clustering the loses and winning before they happen.
For example 10 contra 1 and 10 contra 1 and 10 contra 1 and 10 contra 1 that is 40 contra 3 and 5.64 SD which would be the same as winning the Lottery if it would happen during your lifetime playing.

Cheers
#216
37 contra 3 could happen and is 5.37 SD

But i will give you the scale

2.5 / 3.0 SD is pretty common
3.5 / 4.0 SD is pretty rare
4.5 / 5.0 SD is very rare
5.5 / 6.0 SD has happen once during several million simulations and happen once in monte carlo for 20 years ago.
#217
34 contra 3 is 5.09 SD and after that it drop and get weaker.
It has to, if not, then you will see a new world record or win the lottery as the probability is the same.
#218
 
You can not use red and black the common way as you see them, is not the same way as to take advantage of the true nature of the game which is different.

The last 20 years you have have hit 5.59 SD once in Monte Carlo (in real Life) and several million simulation confirm it with 5.49 SD.
So you would not break the World record getting beyond.

There is no way to bet every single event from scratch and beat 6.0 SD you need at some Point reach some kind of virtuall mode Before.
I solve this.

And the solution is not what you Think it might be, as you can not rellay on regression as the main part to make it a winning method.
Your expectaion might be a very tiny regressopn and it can start growing again without you capitilazing.

For example after four hits you drop 1 SD and it can grow nine steps more to get back to the orignial postion and it can go back to back several times.
So the false postive with this method is that you belive that regression part will solve the solution when it boild down the worst and extreme, which not is the case.

Harch session 10 is nothing to mention with worst 19 contra 2 which only is 3.70 SD or 24 contra 3 which is 4.03 SD this happens on regular basis.
#219
Quote from: plolp on June 04, 2016, 03:03:22 PM
By hand
204 placed bets  of course   :nod:

Nice :-)
#220
Quote from: plolp on June 04, 2016, 01:39:49 PM
for now 204 bet =+18

Do you use Roulette Extreme or by hand?
I hope that is 204 placed bets and not spins :-)
Nice results.

Cheers
#221
Why don't you test The Van Keelen Test - Place 1000 bets and gain 100 units or above - then you know if you have a edge or not ...
I reach 70/80 units using this test ...
Flat betting.

Cheers
#222
 
How much can you win using the Van Keelen Test?
You should Place 1000 bets and gain 100 units or more.

Cheers
#223

Nick i could see that you have a Lanky PDF on your desktop, do you still have Contact with him? if not can you send the PDF :-)

Cheers Patrik from Sweden
#224

Thank you AS i like this methodology very much.

Cheers
#225
General Discussion / Hedge Betting!
May 19, 2016, 07:57:54 AM
With sportbetting and stock market you have hedge - reducing risk management.
How would this apply to Roulette?

For example i am risking a bet and not winning, then i should turn around the situautaion and break even or still turn out winning bet but wilth less profit.

John Patrick has a hedge bet for roulette.
He only play low and black.
That way he has a break even situaion and one winning situtaion and 9 numbers against his bet.
So the bet cover 28 numbers.
Have no clue what he use as trigger or differential betting or not.
But is one example of a bet with Hedge qualites.

Other methodology.
Lee Tutor in his book and a member at roulette 30 forum have post a great way to Hedge Betting.

For example you see number 29 hit.
Then you bet high (EC) that 29 will repeat.
If two loses you bet dozen once.
Then if a loss a line bet 3 times more.
If a lose a corner bet and if a lose a street and if a lose split and if a  lose straight up.

Should also add one more that i Think is very common, when you use progression on two dozen, then you hedge betting on zero and accept overall smaller winnings.

Bayes also using Hege betting - reduce risk management.
When he play with his winning method on EC he use diversification.
If i remember it correct he apply it with his MM approch.

Any opinions or suggestions!