I think it sounds great that you doing great Superman.

Cheers

Quote from: wannawin on April 25, 2013, 11:07:48 PM
Here are several people who say they have a system that works. For example Superman, Albalaha, Gizmotron, Johnlegend and sorry if I forget anyone.

The question is: if any of them publish the winning system do you think the methods discussion would end?

Why should it not be?. Why argue about systems that do not work after there is one that works published? We will have to wait for some kind soul let the system publicly for all to see.

It would be interesting to see if after a forum member publishes a system that works people will continue discussing Martingale rehashed.

What is your opinion?

The truth is cruel sometimes.
First you should not believe that they have winning methods.
This is internet and any one can pretend and lie.

There is a reason why there does not exist winning systems public on internet, they don't exist.
Its about you, not a system, strategy or method.

Psychological you know when to quit and stay ahead and handle loses, then you might have a positive net gain in the end ...
MM is more important then choose of method, my opinion.

One week you might hit amazing strikes and capitalize, next week you might hovering around zero, other week you might thank God that you know when to quit and don't get ruin.

Common sense can make you a winner with out searching for a super method that not exist.

Quote from: AMK on April 22, 2013, 09:09:18 PM
If all of us were to play roulette at the same time, with our own methods for 6 months each day, I would put my money on JL : )


That being said, XXVV, Spike, Gizmotron and many other rouletters also win consistently.




Luv ya 2Cat!

AMK how do you know XXVV, Spike, Giz and many others win consistently.
I mean this is internet and they can pretend be any one they like to be.
They can write what ever they like and you believe in all that.

I have never read any thing from XXVV, Spike or Giz that make them professionals.
I just see numbers and claims, nothing else.
No one of them have been productive sharing any kind of winning method.
Just empty words.

I am pretty sure that Spike can not flat betting with greater success then me or any other member of this forum.

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I don't understand this topic!
I have been told that online casinos limited and ban players who win regularly.

That is one reason why i never play online.
Just sport betting where they take commission and never limited of ban customers.

Quote from: wannawin on April 19, 2013, 01:55:41 AM
I was asked to give the 2-1-2 MM a try.

The benefit using regression is that you capitalize on both strikes and zig zag distribution.
The cruel part is that you have only three bets to catch a trend for domination.
If you don't then it is the end of that attack, if you don't want to get deeper in to the big hole, negative expectation.

Is not easy to spot and find trends for domination and jump on board if you are beginner.
It takes a great deal of knowledge.

Ok i will check chapter 38 today, thanks.

Cheers

IGGIV

Do what i do, change life style.
I will not working Monday Tuesday wensday Thursday Friday, then will be gambling, relax and spend time with my kid.
Saturday and sunday i will work.

Being free five days a week.
Kindergarden dogs pay me 1K
Work play me 0,8K
Game around 1K

That is 2800 Euro with a allot of nice free time to enjoy life.

Series vs singles is the same thing as red and black.
No matter length.

It does not matter if you get 100 reds in a row as it has the value 1 as on series.
And if you get one singles to show it also have the value of 1.

I am tired about silly comments.

All i know is that the game is cruel.
Some pros say you bet three times and if you don't catch a trend/domination, then you are out.
You quit, end of session.
All that with out using any kind of progression.

That is cruel.
And now i at least succeed hit more Entering points with + 1 then Exit points -3 based upon that methodology.
That with out trending for domination using regression, that is the point and should compensate against the Exit points.
That is a start.

Is just my way of thinking or my methodology.
I use Entering points, Exit points, Break even points.
I use only three bets to jump onboard any sequense.
Main target is to use regression and Up & Pull
Trending for domination.

Main idea is to twist a even money bet into the same probability area as when one dozen sleep for 5 10 20 30 times in a row.
That is the only way to compensate for the negative expectation when trending for domination.

It is obvious that nothing in public about even money bets gets higher strike ratio, then this one ...
How come ?
Luck ? Fluctuation ?

Quote from: Albalaha on April 13, 2013, 04:14:28 PM
           This appeared to me as true too but in long run you won't get any advantage out of this. I have a bot made by Ophis to bet line bets, where you can bet 1,2,3,4,5,6 line bets in any order. Nothing works without taking risk.
         It is always 18 versus 19.

So how did the march/algorithm look like, as i also take sleeping lines into my algorithm, it a hybrid.
Did the simulation just making straight bets ?

QuoteIt is always 18 versus 19.

I can not agree as random org says other things with my simulations.
So what is the long run ?
 

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Well Bayes it is based upon how you define things and how you see things that make us agree that we disagree.

Let me at least try to explain my methodology.

Now if i use the classical lines, does is 6 lines.
One line has 6 numbers.

Now if i run several simulations of 300 trails each.
Each simulation of 300 trails is one day at one wheel/table or 8 hours.

Then it goes sometimes several days with out each line has a show once during one cycle as one line is at sleep.
That means we consistently has repeats and we consistently has at least one line at sleep.

Now if i then pick the most present shows of the three lines and play does, then i face one to two lines against me, not all three lines, as they are at sleep with no show.
Then the likelihood is that one of my three present lines will become one of does lines who will repeat.

If not then one or two lines will show out of three sleeping.
Then comes the question how that behave in reality.

If they come and alternate with five lines in a row with each side with one show, then there was no repeats.
And still we would have one sleeping line, if not a rare event happen where all six lines had a show each during one cycle.

Conclusion.
When i play the most recent and present lines, then i don't face all six.
I do as the wheel has no memory, but in reality, at least one line is almost/always at sleep.

1
3
5 135 Even Money Position

5
3
4  4 Sleeping Line position
2  42 Sleeping Dozen Position
4
5
2

6 Sleeping Line Positon (All three)

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2
4
1 Even Money Position

5 5 Slepping Line Position
5
4
3 35 Sleeping Dozen Position
2
4
4
4
4
1
1
2
5
4

6 Sleeping Line Position (All three)

Now i try to explain this and don't know if i do it well.
I build a algorithm to explore this with 50 55 60 65 % hit ratio.
Where you win or break even playing four lines.

4
5
3

4 W
1 L
4 W
5 W
2 L
2 W
1 L
3 W
4 W
3 W
3 W
5 W
4 W
5 W
1 L
1 W
5 W
5 W
3 W
3 W
4 W
3 W
6 L
6 W
3 W
3 W
3 W
3 W
4 W
1 L
4 W
3 W
2 L
2 W
1 L
5 W
5 W
6 L
5 W
1 L
3 W
4 W
4 W
4 W
5 W
3 W
1 L
1 W
4 W
4 W
3 W
3 W
4 W
2 L
2 W
1 L
1 W
4 W
5 W
3 W
2 L
6 L

It is not rocket science ...

I can base my even money bets upon almost conditional probability with odds in my favour.
When i play 18 numbers, i don't face a situation where the odds is 18/18.
My situation is at 99% of all times 18/12.

Then if i lose i want to break even and have the following conditional odds in my favour 24/6.
That is pretty cool.

That is how you get 55 60 65 % hit ratio.

Quote from: Marshall Bing Bell on April 13, 2013, 04:03:38 AM
You could always go to random.org and use the random integer generator.

Set the integers to between 1 & 2
Set the columns to 1
Set the format to bare bones text.

Once you have the integers paste them into a word document then press control F (you can do this too now Sam! )
Type 1 into the search dialogue box and note how many there are
Overtype 2 into the search dialogue box and note how many there are
Note which integer has the highest tally

Now you can go back and forward to random.org and cherry pick the results until you have the exact randomly generated win % you need for any wL test.


Once you have a suitable win % click the small arrow in the search window then click replace
Type 1 or 2 into the 'Find what' dialogue box and type W or L into the 'Replace with' dialogue box.
Click 'Replace all'

Repeat the opposite and there you have it.

Basic stuff, but it works real good.

With Bayes' program you can taylor the win % 1st go, but if you're not that fussed about the exact % then the random.org method is good enough.

 

Good explanation, i use random org.
I getting strike ratio around 55% 60% 65% playing even money bets.