You see patterns where in reality there are none. And you additionally believe these patterns on the LAYOUT (table), are predicting a certain outcome. They do not.

What is on the layout, is a set of numbers that however you group them will offer the same probability of hitting depending on your BET SELECTION.

A certain layout pattern, be it a collection of straight ups seen as a street, dozen or column is no assurance for a correct future outcome. The probability is the same on any given spin.

BTW,

Ignorance does not excuse error, and error is inevitable from any supposition risen from the absence of immutable facts. Roulette is game surrounded by such facts and cannot be pushed aside either by emotion or notion.

Your whole argument is built on a vague notion of a conceptual experience by the human mind known as coincidence. Applying a modus operandi in roulette from a point of view of such a hypothesis that something unlikely to happen, might in some way serve the gambler on the roulette table, is most certainly doomed to fail.

Mathematics, as well as some knowledge in rudimentary physics of objects in motion,  would serve such a gambler way better when it comes to placing bets on a wheel.

If you lack insight in the above mentioned, then at least play the wheel once you have seen a sector on the wheel forming up from a specific dealer and play said sector (max 11 slots wide) at least three times in a row. If you hit one time u have a small profit (chance 29,72%), if you hit it two times then consider quitting and go home as you�ve managed to make a nice little profit on a minimum of risked units (3x11u).

This is the only advice I can give you when approaching the wheel of a Landbased Casino and play B&M style.

Seriously?

I would appreciate if you took your time and tried to straighten out this BS of who owns what with a bit more clarity, once and for all.

So Glen is not the owner of this site as you so emphatically assured some time ago? What really happened?

As per usual free of charge for all VRTech test pilots. Only the Best for the Best.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpRPDMMAO2c&feature=youtu.be

Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on September 13, 2018, 03:11:15 AM
Gentlemen,

When we bet from the start virtually with 1u, as the 1st bet, we wait for extreme variance, and when it seem to stabilized,  we bet the labby halfway, thus the winning is more than 1u, and if losing extreme keep coming, the cut losses, is not vis a vis, and out of context , or out of sync mathematically. ?...
What your opinion?

Your point is valid though I see many errors in your suggestion on how to avoid extreme variance. Let me explain a few things about this.

1/
First of all, Variance is a language and he who wishes to speak and understand a language must first know the letters, words and grammar of a said language. So far on this board as well on other, I have failed to see any such knowledge and much less understanding. To most, variance remains a mystery in games of chance, and consequently, they treat it like such trying to avoid it or fight it with various bet selections that don't hold muster in the face of this UNKNOWN. Hence the erroneous choice of progressive bets, and inevitably, the hard finality of going bust.

2/
Now, whenever you make a Bet selection, you make a choice of specific numbers to bet on the wheel (or the layout and its various patterns). When that bet happens you have set specific laws in motion that works against you on basis of probability and the uncertainty principle.

Your bet, whether it wins or loses, creates a VARIANCE CURVE, depending on the size of the bet in terms of units versus the total number of numbers on the wheel (37  or 38 depending on SZ or DZ config). Here the payout is also important because it decides the win-loss ratio.

e.g. If your bet is 12 units and you win your payout is basically 2 to 1 (including your bet on the winning number.) A Variance curve here will consequently go 2 steps up on a win and 1 step down on a loss. If we also implement a Moving Average Line we can see when the curve goes below the win-loss average, or above it.

To visualize such a curve let me show you an image from one of my platforms for real-time information whenever  I have a need to make a decision whether my bet selections so far are on a positive variance outcome or negative...



The image shows clearly how such a VARIANCE CURVE can help the player to avoid pitfalls and discover and ride a streak.

Does this help you?

It seems to me, Glen, that the ex-members you refer to has in a way contributed with nothing more than mere arrogant intransigence, instead of what they should have had;  shared experiences and excitingly groundbreaking views, there to foster comradeship against a common enemy - the House.

Quote from: alrelax on August 28, 2018, 02:21:55 PM
Please be careful with gambling you'all.
atsoever!

I have recently allowed him to post with neutrality and using his tenure here in a level headed and reasonable offer.

Unfortunately I have information that has been double verified and checked as to his unscrupulous and senseless offers.  I will not allow it on our board.  Any question, please message me, thanks, Glen.

You give a person with a self-confessed schizophrenia (and in my view serious and clearly visible signs of mano-depressive, bipolar mental issues), enough leeway and opportunities to take apart what you have built, that is what you get.

It is like putting your hand into a hungry tigers mouth, wondering why he doesn't stop, having bitten it off, going for the rest of you...

Belonging to the Colombo Crime Family as one of the highest profit earning Capo regimes (Captains) and later mob boss, this fascinating interview with Michael Franzese is a captivating story about not only his own life but many other things that are happening today in the USA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U-yqm9H_Sg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__LxwaAEaL8  (shorter interview).

At my own forum VRTech, we used to have a small Bac section with some Roulette test pilots that liked the game. Consequently, I developed this platform meant to be set side by side with a Casino platform on a sufficiently large computer screen, offering easy play in an Online Bac Studio.

The user just had to input 1 (Player), 0 (Bank) or T (tie) and the platform developed a variance graph based on right or wrong bet-selections. A standard goal was usually 50-60 hands and a Stop Win of +10 units Stop Loss of -10 units. One could, of course, adjust this to one's own needs for much higher or shorter sessions.

The platform offered fixed or adjustable resistance and support levels for the player to watch for max highs (and breakouts) or min lows and breakthroughs in order to determine large streaks in player or banker directions.

I am not a Bac lover (roulette is my game), but those in my team who were, really like this platform and made some nice clams at the tables with it.

As this platform is discontinued, due to the low Bac interest in the VRTech forum I am offering it for free to those of you who love the game. Just mail me and Ill send you a copy and some basic instructions on how to use it.

When I joined this forum some year ago, I read many of Gizmos posts and I quickly discovered that however passionate he was about roulette (and he had obviously lost some money on his own past systems and even close to giving up several times), he still pushed on. That was a good virtue.

On the personal side, I recognized clear signs of bipolarity combined with clinical paranoia. The signs of manic depression were quite clear, which meant he had his highs and lows (in the extremes). This is very common among people suffering from gambling addiction. The inability to channel the great energy built on observation, calculation and expectation of said outcome within oneself is in such persons projected on others when one cannot take any more of the internal emotional chaos and overload. Cheers are nice when it happens but you don't want to stand in the way when the same person vents his frustration and anger.

I think Gizmo deserves some understanding, though I do not take his posts too seriously as I have seen the value of much of what he has offered. But he does write interesting things sometimes, so in my eyes, he is someone worth having a member of this forum.

On another note concerning this "system". Personally I am finding it quite useless in the long run. It is not a high earner, especially not used online. I can understand little Moogies contentment with +5 units when using it in a landbased casino as it is very tedious.

There are far better things out there, and the golden rule in roulette for those who try to make a good chunk of money on it, never play ECs on the long run, in any form. You are for sure guaranteed to go bust.

Quote from: audionut on July 30, 2018, 01:47:30 AM
OK...thanks for the clarification, Magician... appreciate it!

but now I own Legacy Focus SE's.... simply amazing 

Legacy Focus, huh? That some bad mothers. You must feel you have the orchestra, or band,  right in front of you. 

Quote from: audionut on July 29, 2018, 06:54:31 PM
OK I understand a little better now re-reading posts...BUT...the Magician says you bet the DOMINATING choice (so if you have BBBBR, you would bet B), while the original system says you bet the R (because it's due to catch up/form equilibrium)... so which is it???

I never said BBBBR audionut (so what's your fave speakers btw?)

One has to apply a variance graph into the game in order to make certain bet decisions on tricky counter-point patterns. Counterpoint means seeking to balance one point with its counterpart (harmonically interdependent).

Say we use these events,  CCCR (not BBBR as you wrote). Normally I bet Change (C) and not Run (R). But if the bet selection variance shows that my selections have been losses beneath a certain point (Moving Average Line) I either abstain bet, or bet Run(R).

Of course, you have combinations like these CRCC where I bet Change contra the latest spin. or here, RCRR I bet Run (R) with the latest spun number in terms of color and so on...

The balance our dear Moogie spoke of is ridiculous to mention as he probably referred to the Strong and Weak Law of Large Numbers (which I doubt he even comprehends remotely).  That law basically sais that the results from a large number of spins ( and I speak of really large), will tend to be close to the expected value and even closer the more trials are made.

There is a specific formula for this which I cannot post here as the fonts cannot accept the Mathematical symbols for said equation, but you can read more here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers

Striving to bet for short run "balances" are only found in Moogies head which I doubt has ever used anything but elementary math for any given problem. His reckless use of the word "Linearity" and the true meaning of said concept is also a sure sign of his ignorance and mere attempt to look "smart". Trust me, that guy is as far from smart as our Galaxy is from the original Big Bang singularity point.

As you might see, btw, in the previous image where I posted a session, you can see in the middle graph (and to its left) I played a 78% win rate on High Low bets (you can see the wins in the blue column to the far left). That is quite awesome when it comes to ECs and especially means flat betting is all u need to kill it here

What is the Hubbub about "Dr." Moogies method?  Reading his thread where he used this snatched method to berate honest members that just tried to understand his immensely bad English, I couldn't stop smiling at this troll. I 've encountered his type many many times and they are all the same. Vanity-mench suffering bipolarity with an inferiority complex (probably since childhood) is but the best word to describe him.

What he presented (he is gone now I believe) is basically kindergarten stuff and very much not invented by him. Roulette has been around since 1655.  Do you really believe this bet selection pattern hasn�t been done before? Well, it has, and in ways, way more sophisticated.

Here is one. I made a simple tracker, not even closely comparable to the really advanced VR technology and used this tracker 7 sessions against an auto roulette of good standing.

I used Flat betting and used progression only when I stepped up a level on the unit size for the next session, provided I had won a certain amount of units on the previous ones.

The tracker used this "counterpoint" bet selection (yes that is what its called) to analyze three ECs.  Red Black, Low High, Odd-Even SIMULTANEOUSLY

As you see in the attached image from today's game against the auto-roulette (which had a nice 35 second Bet window between spins), 35 Units were gained without a sweat. Implementing a simple zero warning enabled me to not lose bets at those few events the zero showed up. After the zero, I used a counterpoint event calculation by comparing against the number before the zero.

The most tricky event patterns were RRRC  and CCCR. Usually you bet the dominating factor, but when the super important Variance Graphs dived below Moving Average line and an EC started to show losses, I took the latest R or C as guiding bet on the latest numbers EC selections.

7 sessions generated 176 units in a days play and as u see initially BR was increased 2700% with the help of the session progressions of unit size.

The "+" and "-" were there as a notation for the tracker in order to get the variance graphs to get going so I could determine the direction of win loss probability.

That is all. You can do a similar tracker and the counterpoint method is very simple to apply on an excel and use against an online casino with a good REAL wheel and not the CGI crappola offered to many gamblers.

Baccarat is not my game, but I assume you are looking for these numbers. As you see we are talking about outcomes in the Pentillions (American name: Quadrillions)