Have you ever really managed your money and gave yourself the advantage with win money to turn it into larger sums at the table when you were playing?

I am not talking about wagering one or two units out of 20 units and stopping when you hit a 5 unit loss or a 5 unit win.  All that will do, 100% of the times is grind you down sooner or later, period, simple as that.  If you do not belief me, just do it and report back. 

But like I said, really give yoruself an advantage and the fuel to smack the casino with their own money you just won?  Or do you just replace your losses and call that gambling and move on?

My buy in is my risk money and that is part of a bank roll.  It is my risk capital I attmept to win with and when I win, my bak roll is replenished if it was down and then i move on to really win.  I have wrote enough here that all people know I have levels and plateaus that are vital to stay at and not gamble to always be gambling larger and larger, bigger and bigger, etc.

I have found the 3 biggest things in Money Management that give me huge advantages are the following:

1)  A system of 1/3rd, 1/3rd, 1/3rd management of my wins.  Which I have wrote about.  In brief that means, I take 1/3rd of a certain amount of win money at a certain time and put it into my buy in stack of chips, I take another 1/3rd of the win money and save it in a pocket for a possible re buy in if i feel the urge and the action is there after a certain amoutn of time that session when i lose.  I take the remaining 1/3rd of the win money and put it away and will not touch it no matter what, and that last 1/3rd would be equal or greater than the buy in I currently had at risk and in play;

2)  Postive progressions of some type when winning.  1-3-2-6 or something else.  Or, one initial wager followed by 2 parlays and then 3 pull downs and then a large 7th or 8th wager at some point with a pull down and a division of the 1/3rd MM system above.  Then to a larger inital wager bet and a pull down and saving of any wins from that wager;

3)  The employing of my (1 + 4 Side Parlay Wager) that can prove to be extremely profitable with huge returns.  Not be be confused or classified with my intiial wager, no matetr if that initial, regualr or steady wager is flat betting, progression or whatever it is.  A (1 + 4 Side Parlay Wager) of mine is a separate wager no matter what I wagered it on.  Say I won $500.00.  I might be wagering $100 or $150 on something.  Out of that $500.00, I might allocate $300.00 for 4 attempts to make a successful (1 + 4 Side Parlay Wager) be successful.  Example.  4 attempts at $75.00 no matter what I am wagering in or on something else.  The Side Parlay is never my main or only wager for many reasons and factors.  It is strictly on the side.  $75.00 and parlay the wins 4 times and then out with that.  That money or win will never touch my buy in, it is strictly win and hold.  If not I lost $300.00 of a previous win.  $75.00 with 4 attempts as I said.  $75.00 first wager.  $150.00 for the 2nd.  $300.00 for the 3rd.  $600.00 for the 4th.  $1,200.00 for the 5th.  That is 1 + 4 parlays.  The result would be a profit of $2,400.00.  I give myself 4 complete chances on the casino to accomplish that with the $300.00 of previous win money, rather than throwing that part of a previous win (the $300 into my pocket or my buy in stack, etc.).  With a $600.00 (1 + 4 Side Parlay Wager) chance, I do the following.  1st wager of $150.00.  3nd wager of $300.00.  3rd wager of $600.00.  4th wager of $1,200.00.  5th wager of $2,400.00. 

So go ahead and believe that a 3 or a 5 unit stop loss and coupled with a 3 or a 5 or even a 10 unit stop win will allow you to be a successful gambler.  I laugh until my stomach hurts when I read the gist of so many Money Management Systems that people claim allow them to employ a stop loss or a stop and how successful they are. 

There has been talk and interest in the topic of first sitting down and beginning the bac play. 

Upon deciding my risk level and how much to buy in with, which is a portion of my bank roll available, I would get an assortment of green and black chips for the most part and a stack of red chips as well.  I would decide what my first 6 to 10 wagers will be based upon the Section, Presentments and Events I can observe, see and realize the few just before I sat down as well as the immediate ones occurring. 

I do like to start with generally only B or P wagers and if I won a couple, dedicate those win amounts to some various side wagers such as the F-7, P-8, 3 Card 8-9s, and the other various side high payout wagers available without the tie bets. 

I immediately begn my 1/3rd application of money management method application as well.  After a section or possibly the second section of the shoe at hand, I would strive to allocate a certain amount of chips to wager for a 1 + 4 Side Parlay block of wagering, probably setting enough aside for 4 or 5 equal chances to complete one of those. 

There are lots of things I try to play out at the tables, but the selection and application of any group of them, is always dependent upon what is being presented, the people, the immediate successes or failures with my wagers as well as others, and everything happening that can or can not be used. 

What a shoe!  Fantastic.  Just following what it is producing.  Plenty of Players Side Dragon Bonuses.  If it was not a natural or at least a 7, almost every 3rd card pull, raised the Players side to 7, 8 or 9 and/or if the Banker Side pulled, it was almost always a reduction to near zero if not zero.  Numerous 8 or 9 total hand values over the Bankers side of 0 or 1.


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After I took the picture, it was 3 more Players followed by one Banker, followed by another 3 Players.  Then 3 ties in a row followed by 5 additional Players.

Then a long Section of Chop-Chop. 

I told you guys about the 0-1-2 or 3 (Low Ties) being present with strong presentments or even a weak event and both their consistencies. 

11 and 11 in the near beginning.  5 Fortune 7s in the shoe.  Banker run had 2 Fortune 7s in it!  Loved that!  Two more followed not long after. 


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Panda 8 pays off and another Panda 8 follows not long after.  Loved that also.  We switched casinos to play the Bad Beat Bac.  Note the Bad Beat win on the Player also, quadruple hit.  Player wins with a Panda 8, Bad Beat wins, Panda 8 wager wins and also if you had Any 8/7 you would have won that also.  When player is strong, it is strong! 

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Correct Thinking:        Focusing Correctly
                                 Anticipating & Neutralizing Pressure

Understanding Decision:   Causes & Multiple Causes
                                      Decision Criteria
                                      Making the Decision
                                      Understand & Recognizing Influence

Structuring:  Defining Your Structured Wagers
                   Bank Roll & Buy In
                   Realizing the Risk
                   Being Governed by the Risk & Reward

Learning from Experience:  Planning
                                        Execute
                                        Awarness
                                        Reflection
                                        Learning

The Opportunity:  Identifying
                           Recognizing
                           Implementation
                           Closing the Loop

Winning Method:  Frame of Mind
                          Do It Now
                          Reapply
                          Template-Routine-Process

Wagering:     Levels & Plateaus
                    1/3rd, 1/3rd, 1/3rd
                    1 + 4 Side Parlay (on again-off again wager)
                    Positive Progressions
                    Parlaying
                    Flat Wagering
                    Side Wagers and knowing the Proper Allocation for Them
                   
Comp's--Front Money--Rebates--& Other Perks:  Understood, Used & Rationalized Out.

After much thought the past few days, I choose to bring forward something I have observed, attempted to define, follow and pursue for some time now.  I rather not label this and the many other results of, "Playing What is Being Presented In Front Of You", a trend, pattern, or anything of the likes.  It is a reoccurring event in the game of baccarat and what is extremely profitable to wager on when it is happening. 

I have notice and started to earmarked a reoccurring trend concerning the Players side, clumping, strong wins, 3rd card increases to win, etc., more so in the beginning and first half of shoes, more than elsewhere. 

I have posted numerous pictures of live B&M shoes the past several months but have slowed down in my posting of same due to the sideways battles and intense trolling, demeaning, chastising and humiliation by a small group of others that attack us here just prior to my purchase of BetSelection. 

In the near future I will certainly get back in that same grove of things and will continue with this.

Please remember, I am into live B&M Bac gaming, not on-line casinos from the house, etc.  There are influences that I have written about.  Some of us will admit and recognize those and yet others use the very things I wrote about as their ammunition, fuel and content to write their drama and utter non-sense with.  Please bear that in mind.

* The event produces more Players than Bankers; 
* The event usually clumps those Players rather than 2s and 3s of the Players versus a single or the sporadic double Banker;
* The event usually has 6 or higher total point winning Players side values, Or the 3rd card for the Players adding points that are falling the highest amount of times raising Players to 7-8 or 9;
* The event produces numerous 3rd card Banker side reductions to zero total hand value or nearly zero;
* The event happens far in excess of the Bankers side doing the same or similar type events;
* The event adheres to the +10 to +20 count of P versus B;
* The event will usually diminish itself after no more than 1/2 the shoe while reverting to the the trend of equalization/equilibrium, at least down to the count of + - 0 to + 6 or so before the Banker comes forward.

There are additional identifiers but those are the ones to get started here, off the top of my head.

Buy-In, 1-3-2-6 & 1+4 Wagering, Money Management System

I personally feel that those having a ?set anything? in gambling, especially playing baccarat is adding to the negativities and the volatility of the game against you.  What I am referring to is wagering and your money management, which are two of the most important things in gambling at baccarat.

After decades and decades of gambling at baccarat, I wholeheartedly believe and subscribe to a few different attacks on the game.  I normally do get into the mind-set of using all three when I sit down, at times I forgo one of them, but usually stay on track simultaneously alternating or combining them.  Here they are.

1)   My buy-in.  I do not like to re-buy in at all.  I feel that is a negative and a false cushion.  Many I observe with a low buy-in to their fund that they will risk and if lost, they re-buy in once again.  If they bring say $1,800.00 players might buy in up to 6 times with $300.00 each time.  I feel, that they have a false-cushion with safety and planning that way.  They are always saying, ?if I lose this in front of me?I will just buy in once again?, etc.  I rather see all my risk money in front of me before I win and divide it up, add to it and place some in reserve; 

2)   1-3-2-6 Positive Progression.  My positive progression used the majority of the time.  I do not subscribe to negative progression unless it is a series of 2, possible 3 times and then only---if the pattern, trends and previous shoe outcomes warrant it, IMO, but almost never--will I did into my buy in risk funds to start engaging in a negative progression recouping effort; 

3)   1 + 4 Side Parlay Wager.  I try to always have a side wager going for myself, when I am on a 'run' I can profit huge with my '1 unit' and then parlay that 1 unit, four times.  The one unit would normally come from a previous win amount.  As a rule, say I won $800.00, I might put $500 in my stack and then with the 3-$100 amounts, attempt a couple of 1 + 4 Parlay wagers.  I can't view it except anything but my ?lucky attempts? and my "lucky money", if I succeed with doing that one time, I would be winning $1,600.00 on the $100.00 parlay.  Better yet, what I do many times, is allocate something like $700 or $800 for a 4 chance attempt.  Say $800.00 with four chances at $200.00 each.  One successful win would net me a $3,200.00 from that initial $200.00 I played out. 

4)   1/3rd, 1/3rd, 1/3rd Money Management System.  When I double or triple my buy-in, I employ a money management system.  I divide up whatever amount I am winning, into thirds and put 1/3rd with my current buy-in, 1/3rd with a reserved amount in my pocket if I lose and desire to stay for whatever reasons and the other 1/3rd into a ?locked up? status that will not be deviated from.  I constantly divide up the win money every so often into those categories if I won. 

To me, it is all second nature.  And, after thinking back each time, I have noticed countless times, that one or the other saved me from the complete depletion of my buy-in. 

Getting ahead and quitting is very hard for myself without certain parameters that I mentioned above.  It allows me to see clearly at the table, focus on what I won, put away, have available, etc.  Instead of having a pile of chips and trying to be conscious of what I will gamble, hold, cash out or keep for later play, etc.  It works well for me the way I outlined.  It has nothing to do with wagering or strategy, it is simply a quick and easy method for all my misc., other than bet placement/bet selection method.  It does allow me to win more if I can and hold a certain amount without giving it back, etc.

Here is my reasoning.  "A Goal".  If it comes you are stopping--the true joy, the true ecstasy of the greatest game and easiest way to earn money, etc., etc.   If it doesn't come, you are going to fight, demand and feel hurt--abused--and cheated.  "Why am I here", "Why did I come here tonight", "Boy this life sucks", etc., etc., and so on.  But with both of those, you will always have, 'small losses and small wins', that is, if you stick to your stop loss and stick to your 'small win-immediate leave' protocol. Some how, at some time and inevitable--you will be busted out, ground down.  The question is not if---the question is--when.

So if you feel comfortable wagering a set amount of money and timing yourself with the wins as well as the losses, so be it.  You are, IMO, hampering any chances you truly have in this game.  I have seen hundreds turned into tens of thousands and thousands turning into hundreds of thousands.  It is all up to you, how you play, think and attack the casino.  But, what happens more times than others, is that you will feel shorted and used when you lose forcing yourself to allow repetitive buy-ins.  When you win you might be overcome with another personality and aura that will deplete all of your win and buy-in funds without offering you any chance to continue winning or maintain a certain amount you previously committed to stashing away. 

Bank Rolls, Buy-Ins, Money Management, Wagering, Believes, Etc.

Money Management Systems tailored for your style and profit goals, etc., is the way to fuel your $$$ into your pockets when you gamble!

Lack of it will make you unsuccessful, not your choice of wagers or most other things, but lack of a money management system will hurt you more than any other thing in gambling, period!

The whole picture is your Bank roll and what you risk when you play out of your bank roll.  Personally, when I am playing locally and not staying for a week, say in Las Vegas or another major gambling destination, I only take my buy-in which is a small percentage of my dedicated bank roll.  Personally, I do risk my buy-in for the session without a stop loss.  More times than not, meaning the majority of times I can profit.  The few times I do loss my buy-in, it is far outweighed by my wins, because I use a 1/3rd Money Management System that, I refined to allow myself to leave with win money and as well?replace my original buy-in without further risk to that either. 

Buy-Ins.  So, buy-ins are totally separate from the bank roll.  5-10% buy-in at the most of the bank roll.  Personally, I cannot envision playing every day as many state they do or desire to do.  The fallacy of winning every day or having large enough bank rolls to survive hundreds of units of down swings to make a few units, is still ?dreamsville? to me after playing for around 40 years.  Personally, once or twice a week is about it, at least on a regular basis, IMO and experience.   My other rock solid iron clad rule that I might break once every 100 trips, is never buying in a second time if the buy in was lost without being able to play on win money. 

Win Money.  Personally, I employ my 1/3rd-1/3rd-1/3rd money management system which cannot and will not fail me to replace my buy-in and always leave with win money.  Period. 

What so many baccarat players I have played alongside, observed and been associated with over the years, make a single mistake.  Which is, the continued buying in after they lose their initial buy-in.  They have no structure or self-control, none.  They will drain themselves in the worst catch-22 situations they create and entrap themselves in.  If you lose, you lose.  That is it.  If you can?t get past this?nothing can or will ever help you.  Nothing, zip.  Keep losing your units and keep flat betting or even negative progression and all you do is sink yourself worse and worse.

Win money causes more clouded vision and obnoxious behavior at the baccarat table.  Get over it.  Know what wins are and how they come or do not come in proportion to losses.  You will do yourself a huge justice by learning what I just said. 

Stop believing what you play on paper using a free game, such as the one on Wizard of Odds website or any of the other on-line casino websites where they offer practice shoes.  There are other factors within a casino that come into play that do not exist on the internet. 

If you have no plan or a haphazard notion, or you sometimes do this or that with your win money---you will risk it and lose it every single time.  Those that use their win money to fuel their positive session they start to encounter will eventually lose it all, because you will play until you get it back, you will lose it all plus anything you have access to.

Do not keep adding to your bank roll.  You will doom yourself.

Do not play larger because you won a few sessions.

1-2-3-4 or 2-4-6-12, etc., positive progression will kill you if you religiously do them.  I talked about this numerous times in other posts I written.  It is easy to win one or two wagers, it is really hard beyond comprehension to continually win 4 or more in a row.  300 to 600 to 1,200 to 2,400 will happen so rarely, your lost units will outweigh by huge amounts, your won units!  That is why I subscribe to 1-3-2-6 and other versions of that style.  If I win one or two, then I ride free to win larger.  Another story and like I said, I wrote and explained that in detailed before on the board.  I promise you that it is the only way to do good-okay or at least better in the long run. 

Concerning playing every day or say 5 to 6 times a week, your mind will not allow you to play level headed and repeatedly profit a few units and continually build you bank roll.  So many preach it?it is not realistic or doable.  Sorry to harp on it, but I see it all the time.  It is not going to happen.  You will lose more than you win.  Again, looks great on paper and in theory, but you cannot and will not do it and religiously profit every week, week in and week out.

So much talk about 1's, 2's and 3's.  With it or against it.  The times you are correct you will eventually (seriously 100% of the time over say a period of sessions) give it all back by continually believing and wagering the way you just won.  That same shoe will produce just as many 1's, 2's and 3's and "cuts", the opposite way that you wager on, and if that one does not---the subsequent ones you will be playing that same day or the following days, will.  Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it will happen the absolute highest majority of the times. 

The way you can be successful at something like that, is to be there when it happens with a certain wagering thought, but immediately after you profit from it, you have to religiously subscribe to 'refreshing and resetting' and forgetting about that.  Not particularly easy as the psychological effect will attempt to steer you to what just made you $$$ and made you delightful and feeling good all over.  Then as you attempt the replication of that same series of wagering, the shoe presentments went the opposite ways. 

Money Management Systems,.  M.M. is much more than a negative or a positive progression.  Much more than a win-stop or a loss-stop.  That is where so many will fail as well.  They play all the time, every session as if attempting to repeat their best one or copy in real life as to what they learned on paper or the internet.  Real life is a bit different than Doctor Seuss books once you are older than say 10 years old, IMO.  Realize it.

There are coincidences and phenomena in baccarat, and that is what will cloud your vision and confuse you, more than anything else in this game!  Instilling a bad sense of knowledge you will (I promise you!) wager on.  Meaning, what you saw altered your good vision or your good sense of judgement and you believed the shoe will present the hands according to what you desire through wishful thinking or fallacy beliefs.  Once you figure all this out through experience and losses, you can become a very profitable baccarat player.  Real life analogy.  Think of what I just said in this paragraph as erotic foreplay you seen in a movie.  Translate that to yourself and your erotic desires.  How many times will you lay your eyes on a female, grasp each other, go buy the bottle of wine and strip each other's clothes off and find yourself on those silk and satin sheets with the wind blowing through the open window and the dove that, suddenly flew in and perched himself on the bedpost as you make love to the most beautiful girl you happened to meet in your life and you don't even know her name?

Playing -?-, -?- or -?- of the shoes or only wagering after ever 4th repeating banker or player for the '1s' or the 'cuts', does not matter.  As many times as you win those, you will lose when those do not happen.  Simple.  But those that go into dialog s, real convincing and real slick will convince you otherwise.  Counting, waiting and looking for an event will not work in the long run.  It might for the same day-one session and if you only play once or twice a year, but it will not if you play on a regular basis.  Playing that way will kill you, I promise you!

Call me crazy, call me the Rain Man with this repetitive talk.  But you know what, it freaking works. 

Haphazard sucks and willpower and devotion to flat betting is like seeing how far a knife can stick into you without passing out.  The list truly goes on. 

Wager 1:  $100 wager and win.  $200 in front of you.
Wager 2:  $300 wager and win.  $600 in front of you. ($200 back in buy-in, $200 next wager/$200 side)

If you did lose at this point, you only invested the 2 units of your buy-in, say you bought-in with $1,000 and got your 10 black chips.  If you won at this point you have a $400 win.  Think about it---you are going to wager anyway, why not have a plan and a way to capitalize if it does go your way, instead of just throwing your chips into your buy-in and keep trying for more and more??? 

Here comes the best part, if you won--you are on the casino's money (yes it is yours but you want to gamble like me and you want to win something more than a couple hundred, or if you are in a larger gaming jurisdiction--say Vegas, AC, Connecticut or Florida you can make that $100/1 Unit, $500, etc.)  To me, at this point it is Money Management to a point because you are certainly managing and maximizing your bank roll and chances. Wagers 3 and 4 are the best, '2 free chances' now that you paid your dues on the first two, no further risk on the these two.

Wager 3:  $200 wager and win.  $400 in front of you.  (You now have $600 win and you have nothing
                                                                                 from your original buy-in at risk)
Wager 4:  $600 wager and win.  $1,200 in front of you.  (If you lost, oh well, back to the one unit, even
                                                                                    you won, back to one unit, the same or higher)

Now, if I won Wager 3, I would take at least one more unit from my buy-in, and in this case, that would have been $100.  I would also wager my 4 parlay 'side wager'.  Yes, on top of my 1-3-2-6 wagering bet of course.  With the 4 time parlay, I would set that aside and probably not wager it consecutively, just here and there.  Wager the first time and parlay 4 times.  So with this, I attempt the $100, $200, $400, $800, $1,600 wagers.  If I am successful on that, the ultimate before pocketing, would be $3,200 for a $3,100 profit. 

And, like I mentioned--I don't wager this '1 and 4 parlay' every hand, but it is my separate wager of sorts whether combined with another one or by itself. 

That way, I have extra action-motivation and things going on.  For myself, it works out a heck of a lot better than haphazardly wagering.  Thus, giving yourself real purpose and direction in wagering goals and a plan of sorts.

PS:  You do not have to wager every hand either.  Do not forget: The 1 + 4 Side Parlay is a separate action wager going on aside from your main wagering action. 

Here is the summation.

When I win, I take 1/3 of the win money and pocket it, cash it and will not in any way whatsoever use it.  I take another 1/3 of the win money and increase my Bankroll with it.  I take the remaining 1/3rd of the win money and keep it as a reserve if I lose my bankroll I am playing with and still desire to play longer. 

You can do it with any amount of win.  Say you buy in with $600.00 and get up to $1,800.00.  Take $400 and pocket it.  Increase your Bankroll to $1,000.00 and put the other $400 in your pocket as a backup bankroll. 

Say you won another $1,000.00.  Take $350.00 and make your bankroll $1,350.00.  Take another $350.00 and put it with the $400.00 and that makes $750.00 you can't touch.  Take the other $300.00 and put it with the reserve bankroll you have of $400 making it now $700.00.

For me, I get the piece of mind, that I always have another chance if I lose and still want to keep playing.  I have something from my win money already 'locked up' and cannot be touched.  I have a slightly bigger bankroll.  When I do these things, it stops me from playing the way I used to with win money, and seldom holding on to it when things turned ugly. 

All I know for me and some others, compiling the win money into your bankroll sitting on the table, only makes it subjected to larger bets and being lost easier than it does without some kind of plan. 

Do it with any amount of win money, adjust it for your own psychological well being.  To me and most I speak with, it is easier to walk away after winning, when you know you have really tried to win more and maybe one more shot or another round at a table after a meal or a break, etc.  Maybe you can win money and stack it up in front of you and value it properly, but for most players it makes them play a bit more recklessly and dangerously then when they initially sat down with XYZ bankroll.

For me, I am satisfied with the way it works out when I do some kind of plan as I mentioned here.  When I just throw the winnings into the stack in front of me, I have to attempt calculations at how much for this and how much I should cash out 'later', etc.  If I put all my winning  into my pocket and employ 'attempted' willpower, there is no reward and satisfaction for the instant time, while sitting there playing.  If I divide it up as I go along, I have clearer mind and gives me a psychological advantage.

OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT BETSELECTION WEBSITE AND FORUM.

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"I have purchased the Website and Forum, BetSelection from VLS (Victor).  I transferred the money on Friday to our counsel and it is currently being forwarded to Victor.  Victor has confirm that, after he received the confirmation from our counsel.  There is nothing else to post, answer or question regarding the transaction that occurred.  The transaction is subjected to a legal confidentiality agreement and other legal binding terms prohibiting Victor and myself from answering Q&A inquiries regarding it.

The entire site is now owned by me.  I plan to move forward with positive creations, posts, rooms, blogs, and other forum matters, including YouTube and other personal interfacing related areas of involvement.  There will be the Rules & Regulations of Betselection posted and highlighted today within the General Discussion Room.  Please review them and take them serious.

I state here and now, we will not tolerate the discussion of, innuendos, and bringing up of past indifferences from this forum or any other forum or website. This includes twisting and turning, attempts at negating, chastising, humiliating, degradation, etc.  I am sure there are a few that will not choose to follow what I just laid out and those will suffer moderation and/or being banned.  The rules must be followed without question.  I cannot name everything that will be challenged by the negative naysayers and the drama driven members, but you have the gist of it within this paragraph.  If you cannot enjoy, learn, find interesting, and contribute things in a positive and noncombatant way, move on to another forum or form of social media.

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Signed, Alrelax/Admin, Board Owner & Blog Author (Glen)

To the members of BetSelection.  Hi.  I have well over 70 pages of PMs as well as about 100 emails from the past year or so.  I am not the evil devil a few portray me to be, but you can assume, think and believe what you desire and deem accurate within your own mind.

I went through many of them the past couple of days.  Below I Copy & Pasted one that stands out and proves the many positive aspects of a neutral, positive and open minded community would lend huge amounts of knowledge and opportunity for all.  No matter what you practice or believe in for wagering, gambling and casino money management methods, there is so much to learn from so many if we had a better and less argumentative community. 

I am not pointing fingers, past is past and if we can move on with whatever original, past or newer members desire to make Betselection the kind of place it can certainly be or become, we have a great learning, reference and technical tool most of us can find something that assists us improve or a valuable go to type of gaming Q&A open forum.

Read the below copy and paste.  Think about it.  There are numerous motives and approaches for the bulk of us.  So we do not all agree or find exact interfacing with every type of member and post.  If you find something interesting and worthwhile with your own ideas and motives pursue it, if not, move on without retaliatory statements and negativity. 

Hopefully I brought out it is okay to be different without destroying anyone's motives and purposes for posting, asking questions and existing within our forum.   
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Hello,

I would like to re-register under a different username (with my current email address),  would you be able to delete my account so I can do that? I would like to start participating a on your forum but I do not want to do it under my current user name.

My motivation for wanting to participate here even though I am a member of BTC I will explain.  I am not here to spy, bash, defend or get into forum battles. I have a 10-11 hour a day job writing middleware, a wonderful ********************************************. I am only interested in learning, I only have about 1 hour a day free time and I am not going to spend it defending or bashing. I am an easy going guy who just wants make some friends and have some conversations. My BTC friends, will remain my friends and I hope to make new ones here. There is no reason we can't all be friends.

Back to motivation:::: After reading Gizmotron's posts....I think he is my only counterpart. He has mentioned using AI software to analyze Roulette. I have written similar applications for baccarat that are promising. I just have absolutely no one to talk to about the code I am writing, no one to share ideas with, talk about problems etc... I hope to have some conversations with him, depending on where he lives maybe even meet and talk to him.  He may not be interested in talking to me and that is his choice. But when I saw he mentioned using AI to analyze roulette.... I thought dang...I need to talk to this guy, I am doing something similar for baccarat that I have had positive results with.

I will not be posting too much about software like Gizmotron, I just want to hopefully start some conversations with him. What I worry about in posting too much about software is everyone thinks one of the following:

1. The guy is a scammer trying to sell me something (I am not)
2. Software turns a casino game into an ATM machine (it does not)
3. Software cannot help in a game of chance (this is not entirely correct)

I actually understand what Gizmotron is saying about his software because I am experiencing the same thing. An AI/learning software can push the probability envelope to favor the player in many cases. But like Gizmo says, you have to learn how to use it because it does not work all the time. There is a method to using it.

I did not intend to write all this, but I just wanted to introduce myself a bit and chat to let you know I am a genuine guy, I am not here to cause your board any harm or spy or anything. I just do not have anyone to talk to about what I am doing so I thought I would reach out to you and Gizmo.

thank you
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Happy Father's Day to all the positive and wonderful members here. 

Do not lose hope in BetSelection, it will be positive and a great place once again real soon! 

Have a great day!  Alrelax/Glen.

Here it is guys, explains life, hard core reality of life, situations and what the those with a brain and experience do:

Which Nick, the so called renegade cop with his counterpart of the FBI, LOL.  Great comparison right here with us.

I am not sure yet, but I am not cuffing up, just remember, I am not cuffing up, remember those words.

Watch the whole thing or most importantly watch:  3:15 to 4:25, then 5:50 to 6"35, then 7:50 to 9:10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGm13RJ2xVM

The internet, The Knowledge, Info, Data, Etc.  All right there for better--for worse!

Out of curiosity---Message Board Fallacy and the Desire to Chastise Others.  What is the real reason?

Personally, I don't read out of, "Curiosity to chastise", or "Whom can I belittle or humiliate today", such as done by Jimske, and the other, oh what is his handle or name today, Rolex, HohnO, Eaglite, Lugi, Mark, one of them anyway?  At least to go looking for them, and there sure are plenty of fishes in the sea!  However, when someone comes on one of my posts, I will probably answer, unlike many others----I believe it is rude and not appropriate to ignore questions as well as a rude comment by another on a thread anyone creates.  If you are going to create, answer and be real, same as you would do if it was in person. 

The same as a book or movie or a local hangout of any type.  If you don't enjoy it, if you don't learn something, if you are not interested in it, if you don't like the person writing whatever it is, if you are above what the person is discussing or you get upset, why would you even go on that page and waste your time with it?  Something I never really understood for the life of myself! 

Why demean, 'chastise', belittle someone that wrote something (something that is written in a real-nature and non-commercial/non-scamming type of gesture, etc.)  in his opinion and research or his beliefs that are not in retaliatory style to anything that you have written yourself or subscribe to?  There are many examples of this going on the internet casino gambling boards.   

Such as the likes of certain past and a few current members here on BetSelection.  Also, and a most perfect example would be the elite group of 'so-called' professional multi-million dollar full time baccarat players that attempt to and collude with the owner of the website to sell monthly memberships and subscriptions where you have to be accepted to join and the only requirements are, pay monthly fees and basically be submissive and agree to whatever is said.  Best of all, no experience needed and no contribution required, only to pay a certain amount of money a month.  You kind of, and have to praise and worship those putting on the show also, but hey---like I said, submissive.  If you choose to believe in fallacy, desires, fantasies and scheming---join them.  If not, then stay within the real-world of gambling and baccarat because if you do join them---you will head yourself down the worst road you possibly could in the world of fallacy and dreams for sale.  Anything that is really worthwhile said within their elite circle of paid members, is actually available for free anywhere else on the internet.  As far as all the strategic and secretly uncovered patterns and wagering success, it is just good old fashioned ?arm-chair? quarterbacking turned into wishful thinking that their randomness will really repeat itself and consistently provide you wealth, which if it really was---they would not be wasting their ultra-valuable time selling low dollar memberships to their circle of bull poo-poo to the millionth degree.

I speak the brutal honest truth, which many can't stand because it contradicts their agenda, roles or salesmanship tactics.  Message boards are used by many people in many varying ways.  However, I use them and believe that many exist on them for their learning, interests, research and enjoyment of whatever the subject matter is.  Unfortunately, there are those that use them as their 'base', their 'website' and marketing tool to locate and market to those of a less experienced, vulnerable and less knowledgeable aspect of whatever the subject is, to sell them their 'scams' and fallacies turned around and masked as the, 'easy-street of gambling', that will make you wealthy, etc. 

My words and thoughts (mostly through or based upon my own casino experiences) rather than strictly on-line or 'non-lived' type of experiences, is what I choose to use.  I have never been overwhelmed or attempted to get involved in the theories and the statistical mathematical end of gambling, because to me'''that applies to the 'long run', which we do not play when we sit down at the table and put out real money on the real table to play the real game of baccarat.  We could just as easily receive the 3 shoes that produced 50 + Players for the 80 hands each as we would receive shoes that produced 36 Bankers and 34 Players, close to what the statistical models prove in mathematical testing, etc.   But, members and readers will interpret what one says on the message board according to their own agenda and beliefs the majority of the times, rather than where the author of the information came from and what he experienced, is the mistake I think many make when using a message board.  You can learn a lot on the various message boards and forums alike.  Or, you can obtain the wrong information which could lead you down the road of financial disaster as well.  Be careful what you feed into your brain and use your wallet to fund your pursuit of winning with.  Most forums have huge agendas and hidden secrets, I warn you from the bottom of my heart.  BetSeleciton is one of the few that does not and attempts to administer a forum that reasonably commercial-free or let?s say, ?non-forced? upon its members.  While other forums and boards, sole mission from its owner(s) and their colluded with side-kicks, is to sell memberships or their other agendas by deceitful and dominant means for its readers and members to live out the fallacies of becoming professional full-time multi-million dollar winners at the casino with their special information known only by their group of key-players at that website/forum/board, etc.   

But, message boards and forums, have agendas and reasons for their own existence.  Usually it is about money and something the owner and their colluded with sidekicks, assist them with to form a certain 'circle of business?'with.  Each one puts on a pretty good front, IMO to cover up this end of themselves.  Please ask yourself, Is it or they say it does,"such and such", why are they giving it away for $50.00 a month or something else for several hundred or even one thousand dollars??  Seriously guys!  Why would they all not be out on a Caribbean island relaxing in the tropical breeze, playing golf and getting daily massages and every so often replenishing their bank accounts with the millions of dollars they claim they take from the casinos with their super secretive information that you can get---if you only join their special circle of professional players, etc.   Oh yeah, I answered my own question?I forgot.  They are not out on a Caribbean Island doing all that luxurious stuff because they are compelled to help their fellow gambler and internet friend out of the goodness of their hearts, etc., etc., etc., and so on and so forth and they have to constantly be on their computers to quickly ban anyone that comes forth with actual, factual and real gaming experiences and perhaps, just might post something that would be detrimental to the discreditation of the members that endorse the owners line of 'propaganda'. 

So, go ahead and believe what so many will say on these types of forums, boards and websites., that it is possible to have that luxurious, lifestyle of becoming a multi-million dollar professional elite baccarat gambler, just like them---if you join their circle of special friends and just pay a little bit of money for such a special privilege.  How was that, pretty close to what they are doing? 

I guess all sides really do exist on the internet.  I never really did realize it until I compared the internet to real life and visa-versa.  And the message boards & forums are pretty much a carbon copy in so many ways! 

Pure Reality, you would think someone playing 100 plus shoes a week (on-line) would have hundreds of thousands of dollars every month in wins of course) and would send Vic at least $100.00 support of the board; BUT:
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did anyone send you anything for support

Not a soul yet.

Anything & everything you can send is welcome as this initial week of our "transition" is a crucial time for us...

Lots of love to you & yours too,

Vic
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Pure Reality.  Challenge and call me a f***king lair and a Jack off!:
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my buddy will take the other card, i just sent you the one by email, you should have it, check and confirm please.

YESSS! It's in the mail! Thank you from the bottom of our hearts Glen

I'm posting proper public confirmation. YOU ROCK BIG TIME!  Amazon cards are as good as cash around here 
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Play To Win

I personally play to win, not to break even or win a couple or a few units.  Not conducive at all to winning something worthwhile for the risk of the capital.  Same at a business, why bust your hump, long hours, putting up a couple hundred to few hundred thousand dollar investment and risk everything to break even, pay taxes, pay help, hopefully make as much without the benefits of working for a large company with lots of benefits, etc., etc., and so on?  There is no difference IMO! 

With that said, I play to win.  So much on the internet about statistical, breaking even at worst and hopefully reaching a goal with always a few units.  (I am sorry, reaching a goal with a lot of units or sizable amounts is unrealistic and will cause the player to lose most every time).  I stated yesterday what my bank roll is, what I normally classify as a win, what a risk is in quantitative amounts, etc. 

Statistical expectation is probably the worst and most detrimental thing a Bac player can engage in, IMO.  A negative expectation game that hopes for something, usually one or two events to repeatedly happen out of the almost infinity possibilities of presentments that can and will occur during the few to several shoes a Bac player sits down to gamble at.  As far as the computer, great, OMG!  Simply looks great, run 40,000 hands and XYZ number of bets, that is 4,000 plus shoes.  HEY HUN, I WILL BE BACK IN A LITTLE BIT, I AM GOING TO THE CASINO TO PLACE A FEW HUNDRED WAGERS WHILE I SIT THROUGH 4,0000 SHOES OF BACCARAT. 

Anyway, my friends if you really read into things, I have written here regarding Bac you will witness what it really takes.  And it is much more than the preached about FLD, OLD, DBL and all the other predetermined and scheduled bet selections you believe will happen after such and such occurs.  That shoe with the Players box that occurred in the beginning of it with all the Panda 8s is a perfect example.  The reason so many do not and cannot capitalize on those fantastic and absolutely wonderful gimmie presentments, is so few remember the equilibrium of almost every shoe as well as always bet Banker because you have a slight advantage type of preaching and advice from all the so called well known experts of the internet, etc.  Pure rubbish has been preached on the internet with most of the preachers being non players, just IMO, professional authors of one type or another or a purveyor of selling something, remember Stephen Trabone for example?

Here is the Players Box I am referring to.  These presentments happen and they happen a lot more than one thinks.  Not every shoe, but so what.  They do come around every few shoes.  Just almost all Bac players are so impatient as well as completely one sided or against everything that could work for some reason or another when actually at a table.  On-line gaming, I have not one clue and can not comment what it takes or what is harmful.  As far as at the B&M Casino, I know and I know extremely well. 

https://betselection.cc/alrelax's-blog/6-01-2019-shoe-absolutely-classic-a-work-of-art!/

Here is another one, the presentments are easy money and lots of it for the player that will stop wagering for the couple of units with the break even as worst case scenario and believing in 1s and 2s which are the most predominantly believed in and talked about event I have ever seen.

Look at these boards on one of my previous posts! Look at those presentments. Look at those repetitive side wagers occurring.  I do not care what any statistics say, I care about winning and I care about what is being presented from the shoe directly in front of me.  Nothing else. 

https://betselection.cc/alrelax's-blog/5-23-19-to-5-24-19-three-shoes-omg!-bang-the-casino!/

Stop the belief in the statistical results that you will never replicate in the B&M Casino, never ever.  You are sitting down at an unknown section of shoes, that are not and cannot adhere to any results of any group of tests that you studied, conducted or believe in.  The easiest and most profitable way to profit and profit very nicely at Bac is to play the shoe(s) that are in front of you without any bias, direct comparison to others, equilibrium at some point, complete neutralism without expecting something to happen with prescheduled and bet selection based upon beliefs that XYZ has to come out because ABC happened or did not happen.  You must also apply a correct money management method that 100% allows you to keep winning while dividing up your previous win employing a stop loss based on failure to capitalize on wins and not on your buy in or bank roll volume, etc. 

I Love You Guys, Peace Out Bro.  Alrelax/Glen.

If you don't like it, do not read it.  If you do not enjoy it, learn from it, see something useful and tangible for yourself in it, likewise, do not read it.

Not enjoying what you are reading, researching, surveying, finding yourself being sucked in and responding to, etc.? 
Quit. It is okay. You are allowed to do it.  Absolutely 100%, no penalty, less stress and of course, more dignity and politeness all the way around. 

Just quit. Stop.  Move on to something else, by all means.  In fact, if you do not, you are wasting your valuable time and insulting yourself.  You are actually demeaning and stealing from your own precious time! 

I can already feel some readers cringing with rage at this idea. Lucky for me, this group is now required by their own solemn values to read through the entirety of my argument. They can't leave if they are not enjoying it. This whole piece is now a hostage situation.  Of course one or two will respond and say, "I only read the first sentence of each paragraph or a paragraph here and there, so you are wrong once again, I did not waste my time, but I have to say you are so foolish for wasting your time writing such rubbish"  Yeah right!  LOL, LOL to the max, they read my entire script!  Yes sir they did!

But there is a reason to my madness.  There absolutely is and it is a valid one and it is known as what I title it, The Barnes & Noble Syndrome.  Practiced by so many of us, in fact, IMO most of us if not all.

There are a lot of books, websites, message boards, chat rooms, etc., out there and we attempt to be part of some if not all of them, at least many of the well known really great members do anyway. You simply will not read every book, chat with everyone, read all the message boards about baccarat and gambling in your lifetime.  As The Twilight Zone teaches, even if you are the final person on Earth with nothing but time to read, the powerful forces of dramatic irony will ensure your glasses fall to the floor and shatter. We must accept that when we walk away from this life, we will each leave behind a number of books, notes, messages unpublished, drafts, etc., that, had we ever flicked through their pages, could have had a profound effect on our lives. That is sad to imagine but it is a fact of life. It also makes every second you spend wasting your time on a message board, a book, notes, talking with adverse people, as well as on Glens Blog on BetSelection, that does not grab you entire attention, interest and way to turn things into advantages for yourself; A complete waste of your most precious and valuable time.

I am not saying you should not persist with a book, a Blog or anything else, because it is difficult at first to grasp or understand the meaning of or how that information contained in such can and will benefit you.  Sometimes overcoming that initial struggle is what makes a story beautiful, time well spent, beneficial to you, etc., etc.  Slowly a world is unlocked to you as you move from decoding a story to coming along for the ride. That is not what I am talking about. I am talking about the moment we all know too well when you are one hundred pages deep, you have tried time and time again to engage with the text and yet you still don't care in the slightest about these people and their problems or their results they are attempting to exploit and expose.  You still disagree with everything they write, stand for and are actually becoming upset and frustrated by reading what those authors are writing and putting out there.

You find yourself flicking through their information over and over again just to calculate how many paragraphs you have left. The pile of books you have unread or the other websites, message boards and forums are calling to you. But for some reason, you keep struggling on and you stick with Glens Blog.  Why?  Are you really in touch and understanding and profiting?  Or is your sole mission and only drive you have to discredit, demean and humiliate Glen?  Seriously, move on it is time.   

If it were a film, you would walk out. If it were a Netflix series, you would move on and never think on it again. On regular TV you would flick the channel without thinking.  However, it is Glen's Blog and just maybe you doubt yourself and your apparent and prevalent goals you projected in published form already out there.  So you stick with reading Glen's Blog everyday and commenting on it, even it that means posting elsewhere in BetSelection or one of the other message forums that you are obviously on, under the same name or one of many handles you really do have.  LOL.  So obvious and so fore front in your life of gambling.

Part of this is your realization of the baccarat fallacy coupled with the eventual realization but non admitted reality, Glen has been there, just might be something I can use and gain an advantage with. When I have already invested so much time, walking away suddenly means that time is wasted.  So, to avoid this loss, we waste more time and more and more to justify the time we had already spent.  Okay there, I said it, use that for your justification of your time wasted reading Glens Blog and other previously posted threads elsewhere on BetSelection. 

Instead, go back to that first moment and remember, you have not poured too much time into this already and quit. You have simply poured exactly the right amount of time to realize this is not for you and move on or be secluded to websites like GF, BeatTheCasino, VegasMessageBoard or The Wizard of Odds or Vegas or whatever it is called these days.  Learn about the $20.00 front desk trick and Axel and Bob and all those members posting such perfect gambling knowledge with tens of thousands of threads and everything else too numerous to mention.  Read all the countless threads about all the pro gamblers and their teams and all the money they easily make and do not have to work for a living.  OMG, once again, LOL.  I thought my little boy's books like, Captain Underpants were far fetched but those actually make sense now!

People do not like to be defeated by anything let alone admitting that someone like Glen actually does speak the truth, have experience, knowledge and wherewithal within the game of baccarat. We can see there might be something there and maybe there really is wisdom in those final thoughts that would make so much and so many threads entirely justified. Sometimes that is true but it is very much the exception rather than the rule for the people that have such negative, blocked and drama driven mind frames. Why must those types of people follow something bad all the way to the end on the off chance it might turn good, great or offering me an advantage I can use?  That is something you would have to ask yourself, as you are the only one that can accurately put it in the proper context for yourself.

At some point it becomes a calculation of ego, no matter if you want to admit it or not, it really does.  Probably because if you do not read it and that very thing Glen is talking about, exposing, revealing and exploiting, is actually an advantage you torture yourself with that very thing.  There are no other explanations, none. It occupies your mind like the tell-tale heart, mocking you, symbolizing your failure.

But it does not have to be like this. There is a joy that comes from clicking Glen off or any Blog or website, or forum, or other form of media, that is not working for you. It is a little expression of freedom and control. It is like ending a stale relationship. It is not your fault it did not work out. It is not the website owners or the thread authors fault either. But it is just not working for you. Sure, it is sad to say goodbye, but you tried and now possibility is once again at your fingertips.  Do yourself a huge favor, click Glen off, stay away and save your precious time, after all, you know everything.  Seriously, correct?

I am telling you to let them me go. You will be a better and more informed person for doing just that.  After all, you will have more time and peace of mind to actually do all those things you always wanted to do. And best of all, you will not display the hatred and the redundant gibberish you have been. 

We are here to learn, expand our way of thinking, apply things that may give us or adjust advantages, and as well, enjoy ourselves.    Not be 'guilted' by things we spend our precious and valuable time reading and studying or attempting to discredit, isn't that correct?  Just possibly those very same things were dynamic experiences, expressions and thread offerings that we had no business saying the things we have said about them. However, some of the members here, mostly those on again and off again types, I can only assume with the hatred and the negativity some of you possess, you are not.

Those very people already lost you. It is over. Let them go.  Peace out bro, I love you guys.  Alrelax/Glen.

When things go perfect, great no problem or question.  However, in baccarat, most people have one way thought control and little patience.  Not all the way, just most of the time.  Even at the off hours, say a weekday and it is midnight or 2 or 3 AM.  Two or three people at a bac table.  No rush, no crowd, nowhere to really go.  Players down a little, suddenly it is faster and faster and less thinking and losing touch with reality.  Just happens most of the times.

When you see the shoe producing and presenting the opposite of your thoughts, no problem, you generally switch up your way of thinking.  Then just about that time, the shoe then begins to present what you were wagering on just a few hands ago.  Key point!  Re-read that, because it happens over and over and over and most of us do not comprehend why we actually did something for so long a period of time.  Now the frustration sits in.  With it or against it.  With your thought plan or against it.  With the other players or against them.  Everything starts at one time.  You may not realize it, but that is exactly what is happening.  Plain and simple.

Worse yet, you stick it out, you still have buy-in risk capital left.  The shoe begins familiar presentments and you clearly see what it is producing, and it is sticking, your thoughts just got ultra-clear and spot on.  Beautiful, no?past beautiful.  Amazing! 

Failing to adhere to your own Levels & Plateaus, failing to wager with positive progressions when it is best and failing to back down and out, are the 3 largest players mistakes, IMO. 

Another one I have clearly found over the years that lends itself to me with great profitability on the side wagers.  That is, heavy Player results usually produces several closely produced Panda 8s, more so than heavy Bankers producing several Fortune 7s.  Most all into the game somewhere but those two things do produce a great deal within those two sections with the Panda 8, far outranking the F7 with multiple appearances. 

I have written about this, be careful there are times but only a few will be predictable, or at least upcoming, IMO.  Again, a choice of words and hopefully those few on here that live to nit pick and chastise will leave it go and just interpret what I said as experience and labeling for sake of explanation. 

Can you win big money while other times breaking even at worse without losing your buy in?  NO!  You can not, the leveling off and repeating shoes without rhyme or reason will forbid that very thing.  That is why I say, stop loss and stop win are detrimental to the serious players profitable results. 

They say, follow the pattern and win, but keep trying and lose.  By theory, you will only lose the last wager of a streak, no matter if the streak is repeating and strong or chop-chop and weak, etc.  The way so many, most all really, players get thrown off is the one or two results that surface during the real pattern or trend.  Hopefully you understand what I just stated.  But one thing for 100% sure, if you keep playing it or keep wagering for your scheduled thought, whether OLD, WLD or anything such as wagering for the decision before last, etc., and so on, you will grind yourself down and lose your buy in.  Period. 

BY: Alrelax/Glen 6-4-2019

Meaningful relationship are inclinations. The relationships you engage that are derived from both personal and tangible things will produce knowledge, experience and information of all types.  That knowledge, experiences and information can be positive, great and money-making ammunition or it can very well be negative, horrible and a financial ruining adventure!  Therefore, you need to concentrate on yourself, your knowledge, experience, information sources and application of those things along with all the other psychological and frame-of-mind contributors that will allow you to excel in the game of baccarat.

Problem is; In the last 20 or so years, the huge growth that took off from the beginning of the internet and available information and technology days, is the exponential growth of INSTANT KNOWLEDGE, INSTANT ANSWERS, INSTANT EXPERIENCE for almost all taste it in your mouth gamblers, without the blood-sweat and tears of being in the trenches and learning it the way we used to.  Two different avenues, two different ways entirely.  Being at the table for years with decent players in real atmospheres of the real thing with real money is a world of difference than practicing on a computer, jumping on a forum and reading and not even having the judgement to know if the person you are learning from or talking to is a scam artist or a 3 month, new to the game player, etc., or anything of a hundred other off the wall motivating reasons the others are there and telling you stuff.

It is certainly two-fold, do not get me wrong.  First, there are millions and millions, billions and billions and most likely trillions and trillions of potentially interesting things on the internet.  However, when it comes to learning something, there is probably an equal amount of fake, non-researched, non-verified or just plain scam artist type of fake stuff as there are the real deal, nitty gritty bits and pieces.  Fun to think you just secretly read the holy grail or stumbled upon the greatest baccarat gambling formula from some claiming to be professional that spends all day on the computer causing misnomers about people, other members of forums as well as anything else or anyone else they can chastise, humiliate or talk down to.  Why?  I have no real idea except they are time wasters and what we used to call in the auto business, tire kickers. 

The expectation is, that we can use the information to make predication, math, statistical and all that work for us as well as their own special ways as to when and how to place wagers.  Nothing else exists in the game to win, according to those that write, post and press that information, etc.  And there most certainly is tons of other things that will allow you to win, keep winning, cash out and walk with profit or lose without ever really having a chance to consistently or sporadically take a profit from playing.  Back to the main purpose here.  I am not saying that we have not made any progress in positive and real applications of gaming knowledge because of the internet, we have.  But I do believe the negative and the wrong concerning gambling and baccarat are far in excess than the other way around on the internet message boards, forums and the paid sites.

Considering that there are millions and billions and trillions of papers and all that on the internet, it would be a shame if there was not useful stuff. But they are obviously not all real, useful or going to lead you immediately down easy street and onto the holy grail within a few days.  You will still have to define, interpreted and discover what is reliable, accurate and useful for your financial assets that you are risking and playing with and how to set your own protocols and plans.  The average Joe reading a good portion of the stuff we write, will not use any of it, IMO.  He will believe he is researching and learning, but his brain and own experiences and knowledge will overwhelm him with complete changes to most everything he reads on the internet when it comes to risking his own money on it.  Most, and I use that word with lightness, MOST, are not really contributing much to generating knowledge or really anything worthwhile at all.  Then they all get talked about and passed on with twists and turns, etc., etc.

And just about everyone, probably 95-98% conservatively, out of every 100 people at baccarat tables around the country, would never consider themselves an average Joe.  Never.  Never ever.  And therein lies today's problem, false positives.  FALSE-POSITIVES.  Read, absorb, believe and behave with false positives that control, influence and direct you to the wrong thinking, beliefs and theories at the baccarat table and you just earmarked your bank roll and every buy in for donation to the casino. 

That is why our predictions may be more prone to failure in this era of big data availability.  AKA: The Internet.  For those of you that really played prior to 2000, maybe 1996 or so, you cannot honestly tell me that there was all this theory, gossip, formulas and knowledge that we instantly find on all the message boards, forums and paid sites today back then.  No possible way, sorry it was not. 

As there is an exponential increase in the amount of available information. There is likewise and exponential increase in the number of hypothesis to investigate.  There is so much misunderstood and miscalculated, unproven and biased information out there to easily click on, it is dangerous.

But the sheer number of meaningful relationships within; The data, theories and experiences elaborating upon and posted on the internet forums, message boards, web sites, and sold by systems inventors (or whatever they are called, scam artists to doctors to wizards) , etc., is huge and then the correlation begins as to how the baccarat world really works and all that data, does not lend credence to anything, does not make it all or any of it the real truth.  Most of the data is just noise, as much as the universe is filled with empty space.  Reality, hard core reality.

So, a mathematical person can equate and explain problems, so what? So, a statistical person can lay out, define and explain equation involving millions of hands or shoes of baccarat, so what?  All of that and many more like them, all mean absolutely zero in wagering on the next 10 to 15 or 5 to 30 hands of baccarat at a casino.  No one knows the order of the cards and how they will come out.  No one. Unless of course you are a member of The Tran Crew and you already seen the cards come out and they were not shuffled going back in the shoe. 

There is knowledge and experience that is valuable as well as huge amounts that are nothing more than fallacy, wishful thinking and twisted reality that is by far most of the data out there.  The knowledge and experience that would lend actual credence to you, that you will find and read on the internet is low.  Some, but not much at all. 

And the bottom line is; That the real accurate data, tips, stories, experiences, long term consistent positive stuff is small, real small.  But the flip side is, the little bit that is out there, must be used correctly, not just used without further knowledge, care, concern or background, Understand?

Here is how false positives dominate the internet as well as the baccarat tables.  Hypotheses are 80% or better of true scientific data and correctly deemed to be true.  And about 90% of false hypotheses are correctly rejected.  And yet, because true findings are so rare, about two thirds or better of the finding deemed to be true, actually are false!

Why is the error rate so high? To some extent, that question cannot be answered with completeness the way you would like it to be or the way the system inventors, drama kings and the troublemakers spreading their everyday poop, would challenge it to be answered with exact completeness.  However, a close answer will be this in my opinion.  There are many reasons for it, some having to do with our psychological biases, some having to do with common methodological errors that are believed but the naive, and the rest having to do with misaligned incentives.  And the closest reason for the rest of the problem is a flawed type of statistical thinking that players of baccarat want to be winners are desperate to believe.  That is why the complete answer will never really be exposed and even if it is, those reasons will always, always keep it covered up and not widely spread.

Back when everyone was awed by AWACS Airplanes, New special units of the DEA, Specialized and Classified joint law enforcement, Military and Intelligence Agencies interfacing together to fight the War on Drugs, etc.  That was all headlines for a long time and many grabbing numbers justified everything for anyone seeking some numbers.  Numbers justify everything but mean nothing without people and their brains to use them, profit from them and get something from them.  Many of those same principals were transpired, used and reinvented into business models as well as the gambling industry from the laypersons standpoint anyways. 

And here is all you had to know if you ran into a bad spot and you were high up at the time.  Nikita Khrushchev.  When Khrushchev was forced out, he sat down and wrote 2 letters, he gave then to his successors.  And said; When you get yourself into a situation you can not get out of, open the first letter.  When you get yourself into another situation you can not get out of, open the second letter.  Well, soon enough this guy found himself in a tight place, so he opened the first letter, which said, Blame everything on me.  So, he blamed the old man and it worked liked a charm!  The guy went to the mirror, looked at himself in it, put his hands on his hips and said; You are the man, wow this stuff is easy, just blame some one and it goes away.  Well he got himself into a second situation he could not get out of, so he opened the second letter.  It said; Sit down and write 2 letters.

Understand?

False Positives & Their Dangers to the Player and Chance.  Fueling Your Losses With Reason.

When wagering on baccarat and you fail to think, think clear, think absolutely clear, think with neutralism, think with purpose, think with the greatest concentration, we will get reinforced with the wrong way to play baccarat.  It happens quick, really quick?so be warned and be conscious of that all of the time.  It is not easy, but you do not want the false positives in your game.  And that is exactly what you will get if you cannot define and be absolutely diligent about your thinking.

There are numerous false positives offering themselves continually within the game of baccarat.  Very dangerous, extremely dangerous to the gullible, inexperienced and player that easily gets sidetracked or is dependent upon something he needs to find to at least think, is tangible to wager because of.  Also, most all players after a while will begin some kind of research into the game.  This takes on several different kinds of research areas.

1)   History of the Game. Different message boards and forums about baccarat and table games.  General and older written articles from various sources.  Media articles about the infamous, the famous, the legendary, etc., gamblers with their large losses and large wins.

2)   Mathematical & Statistical. Message boards, forums, websites and other published material online relating to the same.  The written books one happens to purchase, borrow or locate somewhere.  The attempted application and comparison of these to the game itself as played by the person.

3)   Probability, Chance & Other Things.  And other things of a similar Se-Scheduled nature and their counterparts including other areas of interest to those also.  The same as #2 above.  Once again, the attempted application of those will only lead you to False-Positives, that far outweigh any type of consistent wagering that will award you winning set-scheduled wagering greater than 50% of any time you play. 

4)   Superstition & Methodology. And other things of a similar nature that you convince yourself will allow you to win wagers because of phenomenon, certain events or any other type of presentment capitalization of luck or predication with the danger of conversion within your brain that allows to justify changing just what those were to skill.  Very very dangerous.

5)  Convincing Yourself of Something Guaranteed.   No matter what it is.  Flat betting, wagering after such and such happens or did not happen.  A strict adherence to O.L.D. or W.L.D. or anyone of the other 10-20 rock-solid good wagers to follows as written about, posted and dwelled over anywhere on the internet message boards, forums, websites, paid sites, etc.  Along with the many other gamblers fallacies of Cuts, Trends, Triggers, Patterns, Clusters, Clumps, etc.  Or, just Hog-Wild, I am on a hot run and nothing can or will stop me and ultimately and with great consistent repetitiveness, give it back each and every single session, because you do not believe there are plateaus and levels that control you and what you have the ability to guide yourself through while wagering at the game of baccarat. 

The belief in any or all the above will always provide false positives that will not benefit the player in actual play of any serious kind or more importantly in any serious consistency whatsoever.  What is even worse, is the few positive wins produced by following on any of those things will produce greater and greater influential false-positives because of the great quest for finding the unknown and secretive holy-grail, etc. 

END OF PART #1

I will post the pictures tonight after downloading and resizing them.  Be patient.

Here is the start of the shoe and some of took so much out of the dealers rack, the sole floor person in the pit was on the phone the whole time to the casino general manager off property.  This was late, after 2 AM on the grave yard shift.  There is no casino GM on property most nights unless there is something special at that time of night.  The game was slow, real slow, drawn out, lots of in-fighting among the players.  In fact, I had a great contact I have known for years look me up on Sunday and want to talk about this, as someone called him and attempted to explain what they saw.  After meeting with him yesterday, I am impressed by this shoe to exemplify the possibilities of opportunity for those that are absolutely completely neutral and clear minded to the maximum without on bit of bother from outside that Bac shoe and its presentments. 

B-PPPPPPP-BBB-PPPPPP-B-P-BBB-P-B-PPPP-B-P-BBBB-P

That was the start and the dealer lost almost the whole rack of chips.  5 Panda 8s with three of them in a row!!!!, and 1 three card 8/9 200:1. 

B-P-B-P-B-P-B-P-B-P-B-P-B-P   
   P-B-P        B       P        B
   P-B-P        B       P        B
   P    P                 P        B
   P    P
   P-P-P

Bold Players indicate Panda 8s.

PLEASE NOTE:  I have talked about this and written about this numerous times.  It is a fact and should now be noticed.  0-1-2-3 or extremely low ties means strong, or weak or whatever, but what I call the pattern/trend to be strong, in other words sticking.  Do not confuse sticking to repeating.  Sticking means as I term it, produce presentments to compliment other ones.  this shoe had zero -0- ties in it well past the pictures I will post when we bailed out at hand 48.  There was ZERO ties in it all the way up to hand 47.

Call me unintelligent, but those boxes, when they come are strong, beautiful and special.  Picture the two of us there are a full hard-core table.  We are both looking at each other, Box-Box-Box-Box-Box every few seconds we are verbally saying and fist bumping each other.  yeah, unintelligent huh?  We hyped each other and hyped and hyped.  The rest except for one, retaliated like we were invading Vietnam back in the 70's. 

And that box with the three Bankers had 11 naturals out of 16 hands.  2 Panda 8s as well. 

More to come with pictures.

There is two main beliefs in playing Baccarat. 

One is, playing a mechanical column scoring/recording systematic way method.  Where as, you score, look and find what the past has produced and possibly a tad bit of not being produced and wager for your pre-set and pre-chosen event to happen.  But always within a generic block of results that will not match up to what all or even most shoes are capable of producing and very well will produce. And in my opinion, experience and countless encounters with so many people doing just that, the results will be trivial, the highest majority of the times, if not breaking even or losing.  Is is basically a way to extend the grinding down of pre-guessing results and stating what should happen.

Two is, the absolute conscious awareness of what has happened, is happening and what has not happened within Sections of the shoe.  Coupled with strengths, weaknesses, neutrality and equilibrium at certain and vital points/sections, before and after the established turning points of each shoe.  Not limiting yourself to any pre-set or pre-chosen wagering events where the shoe presentments must meet your expectations, but coinciding with what is happening and what very well does continue or (Key Word Being -OR-) discontinues in the presentments of the shoe.

Bottom line is either capitalizing on a few match ups (as defined in #1) or capitalizing on the real opportunities that shoes will present in countless forms (as defined in #2).   And as far as #1, those cannot be decided by using a cheat sheet or believing there are 4 or 7 or 10 possible paths that will develop after so many hands dealt because of a lacking outcome or, fancy wording posted elsewhere--has to happen by playing the game for such a long time, etc., from each and every shoe (actually not admitted, is the hope and prayer that it will happen).  True and what gives huge amounts of fuel to # one, the sentence prior to this is, that well under 50% of what you defined in those cheat sheets will appear and the other events will eat up every bit of the winnings you experienced far in excess of the wins produced by matching those pre-set and pre-chosen outcomes.   

Simply,the truth being told.  Hard as hell to swallow without adding negativity, drama, chastising, humiliation and twisting and turning the truth of real players having great wins and redundant profits.  The trend of talking down, humiliating, turning the absolute truth around when one is not even present, and making up lies is not all new in most any type of competition, business, marketing and politics.  It is ingrained in most of us, however, some of us use our energy, motivation and wherewithal for other avenues outside of baccarat and gaming, which some do not have.  So maybe I just found the answer I was looking for as to why the hatred and chastising of differing experiences.  Perfect, great.     

All I can say, is OMG!  Started at 9 PM and Finished at 4:15 AM.  Three shoes.  Fortune 7s, Panda 8s and a 3 Card 8-9.  Against all odds at times, cashed out twice and walked away and turned right back, against countless things I wrote and stand for, especially after cashing out and leaving. 

Three words, Won. Won and Won.  Won, gave it back and then won and won.  I have plenty of pictures and will download, resize and post tonight.  Most of the side wagers/Bonus wagers were with $25 as a min, but many were with $75 and $100 each.  Yes, the dealer lost all of the tables purple chips. 

Lots of classic moves and then lots of the exact opposite.

I am hurting today, about 1 and a half hour sleep.  What a session, what a great session.  And I did this last night because of the great email I got from AsymB, thank you buddy!  Those few sentences sent me out with the song I love in my mind, Burning Down the House. 

The following was posted by Lungyeh, in another thread:

There have been countless discussions about systems based approaches, trends, anti trends, dragon repeat, dragon jump (BPBPBP...) etc.

I had an interesting discussion with several gamers recently as to an approach which has won one practitioner S$1mil per year for 2 years running now.

This guys spends 4-5 hours a day in the casino walking around looking for a noisy busy table. Baccarat tables are normally busy in Asian based casinos due to the popularity of the game. He finds a table and watches for a lead customer on a roll ie making unfathomable winning hands. He merely follows with a S$1k bet and once awhile S$2k. He wins 3-4 bets and leaves making S$3-4k per day. No fuss no stress. No system.

One could also find a losing customer who loses no matter what he bets. We just bet opposite to his bets. I am not a proponent of this schadenfreude approach and I find no joy in this practice and do not recommend.

But following the winning bets of a customer on a roll sounds good and less stressful.

And yes, I totally agree.  I have written about this and most things that go along with it, emotions, winning no matter what the person wagers on, losing no matter what the person wagers on, etc.  It all affects the atmosphere of those sitting at the table.

No matter what anyone says, a table of screaming people winning stacks of chips equivalent to most any ones weekly pay check or take from a business within 30 to 90 seconds at a clip, is powerful.  That is a given.  Coupled with occurring hand after hand after hand.

Like wise, the complete opposite.  Losing.  Extremely powerful as well,  Although a miserable aura and heart wrenching feelings abound, especially when you know the people or have played with them for some time, even worse.   

There are players at a table that will very obviously wager very clearly opposite of what some are doing and there are other players that will also wager with those, especially the larger wagering bets being made.  Both have an effect on many people, maybe not all, but most.  I generally do not wager against people, I have if I see something else that leads me that way, but rarely have I for just that sole reason.  On the other hand, I have solely wagered with other players, which I call getting sucked in, for the sole reason of their wager.  Seldom is it a small wager or just asking someone what side to wager on, etc. 

Many things at the bac table as I have mentioned in my long rants and threads, etc., have pointed these things out.  Yes, there are many side ways things that come into play for various reasons I believe we all have, no matter if that is columns, roads, guessing, past experiences, things other players are saying and doing, etc. 

If someone can limit themselves to something such as Lungyeh stated above, it simplifies the game enormously.  However, there very well might be a downfall to that as well.  Can that person looking for a happy/joyous table with a certain caliber of winning player or even a losing one with the player destined in his mind to lose, and place your larger wager accordingly always maintain their winnings and consistently rely on that as the sole source of their betting reason(s).  A few wagers, quick and simple.  A nice possible protocol?

Can that be replicated into its own game plan and schedule for others to count on?  But do it too much and the tables turn, which they always will in the game of bac.

Brings one player to mind I watched for years.  Always came with the same amount of money.  $600.00.  Always bought in for $300.00 once or twice.  Once if he won and twice if he lost.  His wagers were always the same.  I can not tell you why he wagered on what he did, he never spoke to anyone.  But it was clear what he was doing.  He was betting on the opposite side when everyone was all heavy wagering on one side, but never the first time the table wagered on that one side after the guy got there and bought in. He would put the $300.00 on the opposite side and if won he would do it one additional time with a full parlay.  His goal was to wager to win $900.00.  He never played more than the $600.00 once a week and he almost never played past obtaining $900.00 if he won.  I might have seen him wager once more on rare occasion.  I just remember this player now that Lungyeh wrote what he did.

I see many wager small amounts and much larger amounts with that purpose.  I have just never seen anyone that decisively did it without wagering anything else or playing a longer time, with the exception of that one person.   

Fact is, anything is possible and anything can win in Bac for a few hands within a shoe.