I will leave this up temporarily.  Looks like it might be good info.  Did not check it all out.

I am not a on-line player of anything as most know.  Let me know if this is good info or not.

Looks like they answer numerous questions I see all the time posted here and elsewhere.

Thanks, Alrelax.

https://www.gamblingsites.com/online-casino/blacklist/

Just one of a few similar sites that casinos use to post their info about players.  Just FYI.  And it is not about skilled or advantage or anything of the likes.  It is about players that are connected through one means or another to scams, illegal activity, etc. 

http://oregonsurveillancenetwork.com/who-we-are/

https://www.griffininvestigations.com/

Regarding the Baccarat and Blackjack scams they did and how they did it with good portions of the survelience tapes released:


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3891540/

Play with the shoe.  Stop trying to change it, stop believing all the garbage on the internet and system books.  Stop believing the preaching about the highest percentage of this or that, especially with the 1s and the 2s.  Of course they contribute more percentage numbers than anything else, but might not be even 50% of the time you are sitting down playing.  The biggest thing of following anything, weak, strong, 1s, 2s, etc., etc., is making up your losses.  In flat betting and the grind, those losses will be greater than your wins, I do not care and I do not engage in combating those claiming otherwise any longer.  It is an insult what those people preach to others. 

As far as winning with larger wagers with progressions and parlays, etc., extremely addictive and increases your greediness and everything else that goes along with that.  I have written about this plenty of this site and the psychological effects and consequences of it all.  Look it up and re-read it. 

Anyway, last night here is a prime example of easy to make great money as well as easy to lose your buy in or bank roll, etc. 

Said it before, many times, 0-1-2 Ties or Low/No Ties, stays stronger than versus lots of ties more frequently. 

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Reference the 10 Banker Streak.  After that 5th Banker with the natural, the majority of all the players stack it up on the Players Side with wagers of $500 to $1,000.00 each.  Then they Marty as well.  Most stuck on the Bankers Side and continual lost whatever they won and most if not all of their buy ins and bank rolls brought.  At least 4 of the 5 that kept wagering to change the shoe, did get wiped out.

Player became stronger as you can see.  People only got hurt when they continually progressed with it or went Banker and then did the Marty.  Some survived, others got wiped.  But there was a consistent 1 Banker for the 4 times.  Sections, just look in Sections rather than the whole previous outcome, etc.  Then the double Banker and the triple Banker came.  Everyone went wild once again with visions of another Banker Streak, etc., etc., etc. 

Most would begin to ride the Players but they all went extremely light and flat bet.  What I fail to understand of most Players is their reluctance to wager heavy on the Players and also stick with the Players side, especially when the Players Side is coming on strong.  The stick with the Banker for a little bit then most believe in the cut and only in the cut.  Years ago, it was never like this. 

The start of the Players Streak, two people parlayed 2 or 3 times and then just kept pulling down their winnings.  The rest of the table (the majority of them anyway) went on the Bankers Side wagering with larger and larger bets or that gut stabbing Marty and they got wiped out, either the ones that survived from the beginning or other people sitting down citing, "Has to cut, Has to cut", or "Banker coming back like the beginning", etc., etc.

Also, what you are not seeing, are Hands 78-82.  Went like this:  78=Player, 79=Player, 80=Fortune 7 Banker, 81=Player, 82=Player and last hand, 83=Fortune 7 Banker.  Yes, 3 Fortune 7s within the last 10 hands. 

Two green circles I made are the Fortune 7s.  I did not have time to snap a picture of the board at the very end with hands 78-82 as described above.

Be careful, stop trying to change the shoe, play with it no matter if it is weak or strong. 

Last night, here is what happened within this shoe:

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On that first circled 'Fortune 7' (hand #6, the first Banker hand) the first two cards were; Players had two monkeys, Bankers had a 2 and a 4.  Dealer gives the 3rd Players card to the Player wagering the most and he flops a 6 and yells out, "Tie Hand".  He had the only Tie wager out there and he was wagering as well on the Players side. 

No one caught that the Bankers side still had to pull.  I have seen this many times, but usually when the Players side flops a 7 rather than the 6 for a total of 6, or even the one more mistakenly handled is the 7 on top of a 1 or a 2 showing for the Players side.  But anyway.....

On this particular hand, there was one person out of about 6 or so at the table wagering on the Fortune 7 and like I said, no one said anything.  Dealers pushes both sets of cards out front and motions for a Tie.  Pays the Tie and scoops up the cards and is dropping them and that is when someone said, "wait, you made a mistake you have to pull for the Banker".  Floor guy comes over and the dealer dropped the cards as that was being said.  Dealer turns to the floor and says, "I should have pulled, had a 3rd card of 6 for the Players and Banker had their first two cards with a total of 6".  Floor looks at everything and has one of those moments where whatever he does, not everyone is going to be happy.  Most people were on the Bankers side, a couple on the Players side. 

The Floor tells the dealer to pull the shoe in, he is calling surveillance to check the hand and then he will tell her what to do.  So after a few minuets he gets the call.  He says, "Surveillance told me that we have to finish the hand, put all the bets back, give the dealer back the Tie payout and we will place the cards back on the table".  The floor had the dealer empty the bucket on the table, there really was hardly any hands already played out, and she put the 5 cards back on the P and the B sides.  The floor said, "Is everyone in agreement, that this is what was on the table when the Players third card was drawn"?  Everyone agreed.  The dealer pulls one more card for the Banker and it was given to the person on the Banker side wagering the most.  He just motioned for the dealer to flip it and get on with the game.

The dealer flops an Ace for the Fortune 7 win.   

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpquEzaFMKA

Initially, your assumption that I just don't get it, has you all wrong, and shows you do not understand what is charming, a pun or a factual statement.  What you wrote about is tedious, made up and derived from your pure assumptions.  After a while it gets tragic. Why you would go off on a tangent about drug cartels and bankers is beyond me, but a fine example of what hasn't worked for you here.

Since you consistently like tangents I'll mention this: recently two representatives were involved in a fracas in the US Congress. One, a "typical" white guy congressman, was telling the black congresswoman that he knew more about prejudice than she ever would. Do you get the absurdity? Do you see how offensive that is?

That congressman and you have something in common - you don't really listen, it's all output. Didn't I refer to a movie line recently with something along the lines of; "You need to set your motherfucker to receive!"  I'd have to find the movie to get the context, but in my head, it sounds appropriate.

Do you understand the phrase; "The meaning is the message"?  It means whatever your audience understands is the message, even if it differs wildly from what you think you meant. Speaking up in public (a lost career of mine) carries the reality that people will hear what they hear and it is rarely the same as what you say. When you avoid listening and show up telling us about our lives and what we should do to make it better, you already lost your audience, just like the congressman. It's where they got the term "mansplaining."  Even here, while you acknowledge my intellect, you explain the most blatantly obvious things as if I'm an unintelligent.  Of course you do not spell it out that same way, but you do in a roundabout way because you have exposed your absolute overwhelming ignorance, totally consumption of your ultra-obvious hatred of myself, that proves your jealously and admiration of my accomplishments that you will never realize. It is what it is bro.  Always has been and always will be.
 
The thing is, simply, that you haven't listened to the people you are dictating to. That's not a misunderstanding; the actual events that keep repeating are evidence and proof. It's also not a "conviction" or any other overwrought thing. It's incredibly common and we put up with it  ALL THE TIME.

So you show up and tell us things that we live every damn day. Good for you for knowing that we are marginalized in casino gambling, business, employment, and many other things, but telling us that as if you know more than we do (Such as; Glen, we live this way every day!) is insulting and got you the reputation you now love to complain about.

Your "I'm sorry BUT I'm right and you're wrong" doesn't do a lot for me. Taking out the tangents from your note, that's almost all you said, with the only additional thing being, "And Glen is crazy or a retard."  Actually if you look it up in any psych 101 book or research material, you will find that repeatedly dwelling on calling someone crazy and spending countless hours detailing out why that person is crazy or retarded, is only the true reflection of yourself and what you are actually about. That is actually the best part of all those hundreds and hundreds of posts and comments made by roughly 5 or 6 X-members here on various other boards.

Those banned members of our message board here actually proffered themselves while exposing what they are truly about and how they are consumed by myself.  Such a shame but by their own admission they exposed themselves, their jealousy and their worthless gambling endeavors. 

Care to step up your game?

Here is an Email I received this morning.

"The perfect movie for everyone to watch is "WHAT ABOUT BOB?".  The movie portrays you Alrelax being played by Bill Murry as the movie character "Bob Wiley".  While 21 Aces is played by Richard Dreyfuss as the character Dr. Leo Marvin" the movie is you two without a doubt.  Stay well, XXXXXXX   XXXXXXXX."

Here is the take from each of the stars:

It's entertaining----everybody knows somebody like that Bob guy. (Richard Dreyfuss and I) didn't get along on the movie particularly, but it worked for the movie. I mean, I drove him nuts, and he encouraged me to drive him nuts.

----Bill Murray, March 19, 1993 interview with Entertainment Weekly


How about it----Funny movie. Terribly unpleasant experience. We didn't get along, me and Bill Murray. But I've got to give it to him: I don't like him, but he makes me laugh even now. I'm also jealous that he's a better golfer than I am. It's a funny movie. No one ever comes up to you and says, "I identify with the patient." They always say, "I have patients like that. I identify with your character." No one ever says that they're willing to identify with the other character.

----Richard Dreyfuss, October 8, 2009 interview with The A.V. Club

Note From Alrelax:  Replace the word golfer with baccarat player.

Really 21A, I am human crazy glue???  Sounds like you to the 'T'!!!! ROMAFL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gbgmOnrE7s

Does Perception Alter Reality At The Baccarat Table?

Our thoughts can alter our perception. Our perception can clearly alter our thoughts.  This can have a great impact on our own reality and even affect every decision we are making in anything and everything we are doing at the baccarat table. Perception and thoughts are our vital links to virtually everything in our arsenal as a player.  Money management, betting strategies, triggers, conscious timing of how long we want to be there, wins, losses, our plateaus, even our own experiences that can assist us in winning or harm us when we are losing.  Everything is effected with our perception and thought process.   

What is Reality?

Reality, in the sense we are using it, is both the physical world around us and our perception of that world. Reality can also be used to mean, 'what really is' rather than perception, what is real. In this case, we are including it to mean 'perceived reality' as well.  Which is so vital at the casino table, it is beyond me---why anyone would choose willing to alter it.  Unlike sports and other competitive hobbies-events-outings and competitions, I do believe for gambling it is hugely adverse to change the reality as to the physical world around you.  Some say they remove themselves from the physical setting of the casino and such, allows them to concentrate and tune out the bothersome and annoying people around them.  To me, it is vital to stay within that world of reality with 100% consciousness and vision.  Not so much to stay awake or something of the like, but to allow yourself to take advantage of something that could benefit you with great profits and strides to win.  Baccarat's great player advantage, is its short bursts and patterns or trends as we call them.  If you cannot recognize what is actually taking place or allow yourself to ride another?s coat tails that already identified such player advantages, then you will most likely find yourself facing frustration and aggravation setting in.

So in all essence, reality is the actual picture what is happening at the baccarat table.  Not the, 'what if', or the 'probably will', or the 'it has to be', so and so-with all the other remembrances and hopeful dreams concerning the shoe production of prevailing or the losing hands and what may or may not happen.   

How Can My Thoughts Keep Me In Reality Without Altering It?

Maintaining a clear mind, non-clouded and completely open.  Non-aggravated and non-frustrated.  Conscious in every aspect of money management, my 1/3rd win hold guarantee, my 1 + 4 side parlay wager, progressions and all the other betting triggers and strategies I employ.  In other words, the correct 'frame-of-mind'.

I discount all the other drama and second guessing nursery rhymes at the table from the other players.  I don't (try my best) criticize, while staying friendly with the people I normally associate with.  I continually remind myself about staying conscious and within reality, versus altering reality and slipping into the non-controllable and unconscious state of mind.  I think to myself at varying times, how that state of mind whacks the side of my head when I lose with a baseball bat right after it allowed me to lose all the accumulated win and buy-ins I had.

Bottom line:

Thoughts are very powerful on their own, but when you put in physical and mental effort throughout the shoe, then add in the effects of other people and the entire scene, you greatly increase your intake level to huge gullibility threats.

I wish it was so easy that I could write a punch list of 10 or 12 items with how to avoid gullibility threat at the baccarat table.  But I cannot.  Seasoned players with extensive experience should have no problem in understanding what I am saying.  The newer player, although intelligent and full of common sense, will fall prey to the common threats that will change your state of reality along with your thought process, all too easy.

Last week I observed a player at the baccarat table win many times his buy-in with perfect, well thought out, precision play.  Then the next chain of events was extremely sad.  That same player got sucked up in everything that could have went wrong that was solely generated by other players winning with no idea or clue as to why they were actually winning.  The power and the overwhelming 'reality' of the additional wins and the situation, ingrained itself as reality into the player I was first referring to.  His aura, his stance and his perfect play became tarnished.  He wound up losing all of his win monies and repeatedly bought in numerous additional times during the next couple of hours.  He depleted all of those funds also.  I talked with him shortly after that point.  He admitted to me as to being caught up and falsely led into a belief by the other player's good luck.  Then how everything combined overwhelmed him into a false sense of security, thinking he could increase his wagering by two and three fold and extend his time gambling those subsequent and large wagering amounts.  He knew better and I know that he actually did.  I never saw him play that long or hard after such a great win. 

I am not placing the blame on any technical reason or tangible betting methods.  This is strictly an intangible problem faced by the highest majority of baccarat players worldwide. The reason that player lost everything is because he lost sight of reality and his own great thought process along with his perception on reality.  He slipped away and failed to adhere to staying conscious, alert and in 100% unaltered reality.  If he did, and knowing him the way I do, he would have cashed out, left the casino and reset on the subsequent visit while holding those large wins he unconsciously gave back by putting himself in an altered state of reality. 

1-3-2-6 Back Again Plus 4 Win Parlay--Purpose and Direction

Yes sir.  More and more. 

Call me crazy, call me the Rain Man with this repetitive talk.  But you know what, it freaking works. 

Haphazard sucks and willpower and devotion to flat betting is like seeing how far a knife can stick into you without passing out.  The list truly goes on. 

Wager 1:  $100 wager and win.  $200 in front of you.
Wager 2:  $300 wager and win.  $600 in front of you. ($200 back in buy-in, $200 next wager/$200 side)

If you did lose at this point, you only invested the 2 units of your buy-in, say you bought-in with $1,000 and got your 10 black chips.  If you won at this point you have a $400 win.  Think about it---you are going to wager anyway, why not have a plan and a way to capitalize if it does go your way, instead of just throwing your chips into your buy-in and keep trying for more and more??? 

Here comes the best part, if you won--you are on the casino's money (yes it is yours but you want to gamble like me and you want to win something more than a couple hundred, or if you are in a larger gaming jurisdiction--say Vegas, AC, Connecticut or Florida you can make that $100/1 Unit, $500, etc.)  To me, at this point it is Money Management to a point because you are certainly managing and maximizing your bank roll and chances. Wagers 3 and 4 are the best, '2 free chances' now that you paid your dues on the first two, no further risk on the these two.

Wager 3:  $200 wager and win.  $400 in front of you.  (You now have $600 win and you have nothing
                                                                                 from your original buy-in at risk)
Wager 4:  $600 wager and win.  $1,200 in front of you.  (If you lost, oh well, back to the one unit, even
                                                                                    you won, back to one unit, the same or higher)

Now, if I won Wager 3, I would take at least one more unit from my buy-in, and in this case, that would have been $100.  I would also wager my 4 parlay 'side wager'.  Yes, on top of my 1-3-2-6 wagering bet of course.  With the 4 time parlay, I would set that aside and probably not wager it consecutively, just here and there.  Wager the first time and parlay 4 times.  So with this, I attempt the $100, $200, $400, $800, $1,600 wagers.  If I am successful on that, the ultimate before pocketing, would be $3,200 for a $3,100 profit. 

And, like I mentioned--I don't wager this '1 and 4 parlay' every hand, but it is my separate wager of sorts whether combined with another one or by itself. 

That way, I have extra action-motivation and things going on.  For myself, it works out a heck of a lot better than haphazardly wagering.  Thus, giving yourself real purpose and direction in wagering goals and a plan of sorts.

The game of emotions, fits, tantrums, and release for some.  Others sit with their heads in their hands and bathe in their own sorry-dissent or tiny section of their unfriendly world.  It never changes. 

Myself and another white person with the remainder of a full bac table being Viet or Laos people.  One of my favorite players was next to me, a Viet lady.  She owns an Asian restaurant about 75 miles away in a larger metro area and comes to play bac usually 2 or 3 nights a week.  We usually meet up on Thursday's and Friday nights for the game. 

She is a little bit younger than me in her late 40's, very long hair and relatively attractive to say the least.  Not the casino's largest player buy up there anyway. We made some pretty wins on this shoe and we most definitely caught the first little run of 6 Players with 4 out of the 6 being natural's.  Then we both caught the almost adjacent little run of 5 Bankers and the Tie to the right of those Players.  We get down to around hand 67 or so and we both were up considerably in this shoe. 

You have to understand what happened just prior to this to make the whole picture.  She was on her 2nd super large Freeze Cappuccino 'Starbucks Unicorn Multi-color' imitation drink that is nothing but pure sugar and whipped creme and tons and creamy syrups and sprinkles and coloring to copy that weird thing Starbucks just recently had out.  It was made in the casino at their coffee/pastry shop.  We both had about 3 or so packages of Little Debbie Snack Cakes and I was on my 3rd or 4th coffee by this time.   So pretty obvious we are both there hyped and ready to roll.  The others at the table were either with their hands in the palms of their hands or sitting back waiting for something to happen. 

An x-dealer from the other casino not too far away, the one I was banned at twice, once for picking up the shoe and throwing it into the middle of the pit because of the way the dealer was talking and acting to the players, was there dealing.  Don't forget here, unlike the other place nearby, the dealers get to keep their tips 100% to themselves, so a rude dealer at another casino around here, gets a job here and suddenly he/she has a one million percent improvement overnight with their new personality! 

So, here we are ready to rock n roll and the dealer is letting the players set the pace and saying nothing, taking a super long time between hands and there was another player wagering table min and keeps putting his hand out over his wager to stop the dealer as he thinks, rethinks and keeps thinking if he should wager the $10.00 he was wagering, $10.00 to $2,000.00 max table.  I mean like this guy is holding up the dealer like a good solid 45 seconds to a full minute almost every hand.  The lady and I both agree table max for the next 4 Players and then switch immediately to table max for the next 4 Bankers. Our reasoning was, Yeah stupid but this is what it was---there was just 2 Bankers preceded by 2 Players and all four hands won with 7's-8's or 9's against weaker numbers.  2 and 2 equals 4, so there would be 4 Players followed by 4 Bankers.  Okay, whatever.  It easily could have been chop, or doubles or 10 of one side or another.  But that is how we assumed and what we geared up for.  I push my $2k out on Players and she pushes her $2k out on Players and we each throw up a green chip for the dealer.  She clearly says to the dealer, ?give us some cards to win with and you get a quick $100.00?.  Dealer nods.  My Viet friend is like 'Dit-Me, Low-Dit' don?t know if I spelled those exactly correct, which they mean, Dit-Me (Mo-Fu) and Low-Dit (As* hole).  The others pop their heads up and snicker, the dealer knew nothing.  The dealer was not into it at all and just being a puppet.  So she peeks at the cards for the Players and without turning them over, my Viet friend snatches back the green chip and the dealer has a fit and yells for the floor person.  The floor person comes over and puts his hands on his hips and says, "what did you two do now"?  He knew something was wrong and he is the coolest floor person there.  In fact at the casino there is only one floor person that is a nightmare and you don't want to mess with him.  So the dealer says, "that lady removed the tip/wager she placed next to her wager after the cards came out".  My Viet friend gets up and says, "The lady is acting like a complete bitch and we don't deserve it".  The floor person asked if she could just put it back and she said absolutely not.  The floor pleaded with her and she came back and said, "I will put it on top of my stack and since I will be over the max, if I win you kick it back and if I lose, I get it back also.  It is a compromise".  The floor told her, "okay put it on top and the dealer will say player takes and not break down your chips".  Then the Viet lady says to the dealer, "be nice and don't be a dead puppet and you will make money also from us".  The dealer doesn't say anything.  The Viet lady slams down a natural 9 and the Banker hand was turned over with a 7.  The dealer broke down her chips and took her first finger and thumb and flicked the quarter chip back to the Viet lady.  She looked at her and kept say, 'Aayh-Aayh-Aayh' and the whole table cracked up which means F***, etc.   

We repeat the same thing and then we each put up $50.00 in red for the dealer.  The Viet lady puts her hand out over her chips and looks at the dealer and says, "be nice, be on our side, can you be like that instead of being a puppet"  The dealer got into it and smacked the shoe and smiled.  If she really didn't change she sure did an expert theatrical rendition of changing personality in about 2 minutes. 

Everyone is on the Players anywhere from a couple hundred to table max like the both of us were.  The dealer slides the cards to the Viet lady and she passes them sideways to me.  I look, blackjack and I toss them in and just say, 'wrong table'.  The Viet lady motions the dealer to flip the Bankers cards and she turns them over with an 8 showing on top.  She pauses and shrugs her shoulders.  Before she slides the card sideways to reveal what is under the 8, the Viet lady jumps up, the back of her legs knocks her chair over on the floor and points to the 8, and starts screaming for 'nothing' to be under it and continuously waves here hand as to blow away anything good from appearing.  The dealer does the same thing, totally into the game and no doubt thinking about her $200.00 if we win.  A duce is underneath and the Viet lady and the dealer fist bump.  The dealer slides me a card and I slide it to the Viet lady.  She picks up her chair and sits back down.  She takes a huge bite of a Little Debbie Snack cake and starts to slowly chew it.  She peeks at the card and half the Little Debbie cake is coming out of her mouth and then she is cussing under her breath.  She said, 'not good'.  So, I am thinking a monkey or an A-2-3 card.  Regardless, the Banker has to pull, she tells the dealer to pull and flip the Banker card as she slides her card we still didn't see up to the Players side.   

The dealer flops a monkey and the Viet lady is screaming.  LOL!  I know I can't do justice to this in wording but everyone from all the other tables are looking, laughing and holding beer bottles up cause they know we are winning, just a bunch of customer camaraderie going on.  The dealer sits back and crosses her arms and says, "I did that just for you".  The floor person said, "you are lucky because I know that player and you probably would have been wearing that funky looking freezie drink she has in front of her".  Then we get to the next hand, oh lord!  Time for dealer change and the dealer gets tapped out.  The Viet lady and I ask the floor person can she deal one more hand and he said no.  Normally they do most times, but he said she could not.  Then the Viet lady pleaded and he finally said okay.  Now everyone is on the Players of course for the 3rd hand.  The others with little chips are putting up everything they have on it.  The Viet lady and I and another have table max and I put up 3 green chips and the Viet lady does also for the dealer.  The other guy puts up one green chip next to his wager and the Viet lady yells at him not to be so darn cheap and he finally puts of 3 quarters as well.  The Viet lady looks at all our wagers and tells her, you have $235.00 up so $470.00 if you give us some good cards?.  The floor person is laughing his butt off and telling her, "you better take her advice or I know you will be wearing that drink". 

The dealer slides the 2 cards for the Players right between us and she said, "you guys decide".  I take one and the Viet lady takes one.  She flops a monkey and I tell her mine is a 4 sided card and she immediately starts blowing with her head close to the card I had.  I don't take long and I flop the 9 over.  The dealer quickly flops a 5 for the Bankers.  Of cause now everyone is pleaded with the floor person for the same dealer to deal one more hand and he firmly says he cannot.  She pleads and pleads for the dealer to stay and the dealer didn't get up out of her chair yet, and the floor person says switch.  So the new dealer sits down and says, "let's continue this, I am ready".  Bad thing is, he is the official cooler of the casino as we always tell him and everyone.  We look at each other and say we are f***ed.  The dealer says, "come on think positive".  The dealers are in rotation from the next table game beside our table, so it is not like the floor or management has an option to pick any dealer to come in, etc. The whole table looks at the dealer and says, "we tried thousands of times and you always mess it up".  Floor person walks away and says, "have fun, call me if you need me" and walks away.  We were actually going to wager on the Banker and then we said, "we agreed on the Players already and we won 3, if we switch up and lose we are totally as*holes to the millionth power".   Dealer says, "stick with it, I am dealing you a Player".  We all look at each other and we decide to stick Player.  We actually said we were okay to continue Player because there was other 5 and 6 Players small runs and we are only asking for a 4 repeater.  So after we convinced ourselves that it will be player, we wagered the same once again.  We all stuck a quarter or some red chips up for the new dealer, whom we all knew very well.  Then I say, no way and I pull my chips down and the lady calls me a fool.  She said, she knew we would have the 4th Player in there and why chicken out.  I point to the dealer and say that's why.  The dealer laughs, he always does.  He is an okay guy, not rude or anything, just never lets no one win at the game.  So I stay out and everyone else stays put. 

No one is on the Bankers and the Viet lady gets the first two cards.  The Viet lady flops over a 2 and a 9 and the Banker is slowly revealed by the dealer for a 6 and a 4.  "Can we get something please", a couple of the players say.  The dealer is shaking his head yes.  They get the first card and it is a frigging 9 reducing her hand to zero.  She just turned red, real quick.  She stands up and is yelling for a monkey, no in fact--everyone at the table is yelling for a monkey.  The dealer flops an Ace.    She goes to play smack the dealer with her hand, as in a back hand motion and winds up knocking her large frozen drink right into the dealer's chip tray.  He yells for the floor person and we can hear the floor person saying, "what now I only been gone for one minute from you guys".  The Viet lady is freaking out and yelling and cussing up a storm calling the dealer a 'Goo', or something like that that means 'dick'.  Security comes running up, most likely called by surveillance and the floor person did not call and everything is shut down.  After a complete transfer of chip trays, about 20 minutes later, the game resumes. 

Now, we are talking once again.  Four Bankers is said, I say, "Can we just please go with the original 4 Players and 4 Bankers scenario, we already have the 1st Banker out"?.  She points at the dealer and the dealer is cracking up.  The floor person says, "Can I please go over to the blackjack tables they need me there, please you guys help me and be good".  We all wave our hands for him to leave and the dealer is laughing.  The Viet lady hunched over the table with her hands on the rail and says, "Please---can you please be nice to us".  The dealer says, "sure, yes". 

Well he gave us the 3 more Bankers with the last two being natural 9's.  We wagered for him and each time he is saying, "See I am not so bad, huh"?

Then the last hand was a Fortune 7 and no one wagered for it after being burned out trying to get it numerous times.  Did well and called it a night.  Walking out, I had to laugh about some of the stuff that went down and just snickered a bit to myself.

(The first shoe from the first post in this thread is the shoe I am referring to here in this)
https://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/live-cards/msg55621/#msg55621

Turning Points

(NOTE:  Turning Points coincide with Sections.  Without Sections, Turing Points are worthless for the most part, without Turning Points, Sections are worthless for the most part as well.)

There are two ways to assist in determining where a Turning Point should be.  One, is by a definitive amount of hands played out; And two, is by the values of the hands being played out in each hands total.

1)   There will be at least 2, but usually 3 or 4 Turning Points per shoe, coinciding with the 3-4 or 5 Sections.  You cannot get the Sections and the Turning Points confused or fail to recognize them.  They will both exist and always be there in each and every single shoe.   

The definitive amount of hands will be somewhere from 15 to 25 per Section separated thereafter by a Turning Point.  The Turning Point is not defined by what we wish, desire or need to be presented in order to match up to your schedule of wagers we set according to anything.  Turning Points are to be set by the shoe's presentments.     

2)   The more complicated part and as well, subjective to one's interpretation, are the values of the hands being played out.  To me, as well as many others that I regularly play baccarat with, are the hand values.  Determining hand values and how those can and will identify a section within a Section, also known as clumping, will usually present itself, somewhere within the highest majority of most shoes.  You must be alert, conscious of what it is, looking for it, neutral and the many other things I have identified and written about that will lend advantages to you in the recognition of just that. 

Above all else, you must not attempt to change the shoe presentments and wager according to a pre-scheduled mechanical and thought out chain of event you wish to happen.  That will only produce false-positives that will lead you down a path you wish you never entered.  Realizing values of the presented hands are essential to capitalizing on the advantage that will allow you to literally, "Pounce on It". 

I am not going down the road of math, statistics or scientific probability of computer generated, long term testing or research results, etc., or anything of the like.  If you believe in those, STOP reading now and move on.  We do not see eye-to-eye or anything that will allow us to interface and learn from each other.  Reason being, anyone into math, statistics, or scientific probability measured in percentages can justify just about anything outside of the casino and away from actual play.  The long term simply does not matter/apply to a random game where a person is only playing a few shoes, even 10 shoes or so, even 15.  All the math and all the stats apply far less than 50% of the time with the amount of shoes or hands a player will sit in front of for a session.  If you are neutral and open minded and desiring to gain an advantage in baccarat, read on, comment, implement and discuss.

Either P or B, or both, can clump within a Section.  A great advantage to a person wagering is being able to get on the right side or the right events within any Section with some strong positive progression or parlay wagering.  For example the shoe below had a strong Section 2 as well as a strong Section 1.  Sections 3 and 4 would be the harder ones for myself to play.  After Sections 1 and 2, myself--I was done with the shoe and cashed out. 

3rd Card continuous additions or reductions in hand value.  Pay attention because this is what more clumping and more streaks or chop-chop or any other section of events with consistency is made up from.   

As an example I will post a shoe from the other night at the casino.  4 Sections with 3 Turning Points.  The first clump came at the beginning of the 2nd Section. 


P
B-B
P
B
P
B-B
P                                      (Section 1)
B-B
P-P
B
P-P
B
P
B
______________________________________________________________________________

P-P-T-T-P-P-P-P-P-P
B-B-B-B                                     (Section 2)
P-P-P
B-B
P
______________________________________________________________________________

B-B-T
P-P
B
P-P                                             (Section 3)
B
P-T-P-P-P
B
P-P-T
______________________________________________________________________________

B
P
B-B
P
B-B
P                                       (Section 4)
B
P
B
P
B-B
P-T-P-P-T
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FINAL:
Banker=30
Player=39
Ties=7
Panda 8s=2
Fortune 7s=3
3 Card 8/9s=1

TOTAL COUNTS BY SECTIONS:
Section 1=Player 9, Banker 10
Section 2=Player 21, Banker 16
Section 3=Player 31, Banker 21
Section 4=Player 39, Banker 30

Please refer to the + - 10/+ - 20 Count I have detailed in other threads.  This sticks more than almost anything other consistent happening throughout the shoe, IMO, experience and witnessing over the years.
This particular shoe finished with a Player +9.  Use the + or - as one guideline, coupled with others that are presenting themselves, will allow you to gain a certain advantage and be there when something develops on the correct side.  Rather than joining most everyone with the verbal astonishment's and open mouth disbelief's as for example, how the Players side can present 12 straight Players with 5 naturals, and the other 7 Player wins having a 3rd card bring the Players side total to either 8 or 9 nearly every time. 

Turning Point #1 placed between hands 19 and 20 because of the following.  1) The number of hands.  2) Player began to dominate as realized by the two natural ties and the 3rd Player presented.  3) Nothing strong appearing in first Section.  4)  Player continuously winning for 3 hands straight with surviving the cut of 2 Natural Ties.
 
Turing Point #2 placed between hands 39 and 40 because of the following. 1)

Turning Point #3 placed between hands 57 and 58 because of the following. 1)

Comments for Section 1:

Comments for Section 2:  Player/Banker tie natural 8/8 hand 22. Player/Natural tie 9/9 hand 23.  Hand 24 Play increases to a 2 card 9 over Banker 2 card 7.  Hand 25 Player increases to 3 card 8 over Banker total of 0. 

Comments for Section 3:

Comments for Section 4:

I was unpacking some boxes from my recent move and found a couple of shirts.  One was a Tommy Bahama button down shirt with the brand's take on the Matingale System renamed The Martinigale System.  The other one is from Atlantic City, a T Shirt from The Steel Pier.

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The Balance
The Settlement
Sections
Beginning of Shoe
Middle of Shoe
End of Shoe
Ask questions, talk to others
Visualization

If you are not on it, you cannot win it.  Looking and witnessing whatever is coming up only adds false positives to your mind frame, and that holds true with countless computer testing.

Myths and Theory's that do appear but will fade without you actually realizing what happened and why it happened.

It is a commodity until there is an error or a drastic change of events due to normal and perfectly repeatable presentments.

What is in one shoe is different than another shoe.  When some chain of events repeats itself in another shoe, your false positives will drastically raise and I promise you will lose more than you win if you continue to wager based upon events that match up to your pre-scheduled wagering.

Perfect Knowledge.  Absolute Conclusions.  Opinions.

Without perfect knowledge, you cannot and do not know what is within the shoe, the section, after the turning point, etc., etc., and so on.  None of us will ever have perfect knowledge of baccarat.  Sorry, I know that is not what many want to hear, but that is reality, stone cold and real-life baccarat reality.

We only know what has been exposed and presented within a shoe when we are playing.  Reality is that we can never know absolutely what will come out.  Through whatever means, Sections and Turning Points, an occasional hand or two through process and elimination, etc., etc.  We fool ourselves into a wager, some of us with large amounts of money and others with trivial amounts of money.  But the psychological process of wagering in this game of baccarat is hugely affected by numerous items as I have written about.  Do not forget that or fail to recognize just that.

It has been attempted countless times to match unknown and waiting to occur situations/presentments with a generated theory based on technology opinionated and concluded by the author presenting it as, "Perfect Knowledge", it is not.  It is a rouse, it is an opinion, it is an educated guess, it is anything, but an advantaged piece of knowledge so purported to be as such.  And that is where so many get confused as to what is what with this game of baccarat, decision making, strategy and wagering.

Look at it as a path or a hallway.  It must end, but what are the twists and the turns along the way.  That is why I began to break everything down into Sections & Turning Points, just makes things more manageable and acceptable, because before you complete a long path you must take the short journey along the way within that long run, no?  Hence, my Sections & Turning points.

Stop the reactions, because they will provide you with tons of false positives.  Those false positives are influential, realize that!  Very much so!

There are usually counter reactions to the presentments as they occur, most do not even realize it.  Pay more attention and attempt to look in from the outside, rather than submersing yourself in the game the way almost all do.  Like walking down, a hallway, when no one is walking with you and seven abreast walking right at you.  Your very first reaction(s) are, your pace changes, you look at which way you will start to divert your path and are they aggressive or just plain friendly and unintelligent?  You ask and answer many questions subconsciously and react as well, again subconsciously.  The same at the game of baccarat, learn it and realize what you do without even rationalizing it out and deciding upon it with knowledge, opinion and conclusion.

When it is in order, versus out of order, your process of realization is enhanced.  But few of us stay ultra-conscious when we are playing baccarat, especially in a live casino, with the absolute neutral state of mind at the table.  You may say you do, but you do not.  Visual impact is very very overwhelming. 

A standard method developed is not wise to follow, because the results yet to occur have no path to follow.  Correct?  The whole basis of everyone?s reasoning?s are, the sheer number of models tested.

Take 10 sets of eight.  Eight hand Sections that is.  Write them out.  Do that for say 100 shoes.  Come on your not that lazy are you?  Invest in 8 decks of cards, $15.00 or so at most.  Play them out.  Keep doing it.  Write down the Sections, every 8 hands.  Look at hands 108 through 116 and compare those to hands 208 through 216 and then look at hands 1008 through 1016.  Find something?  Keep looking and looking.  Come on what is the big deal.  You put more work in trying to put together an edger machine and learn how to use it on your lawn than something like this?

When you realize the results follow no path, then you will start to understand this game.  That is when you might just see the versatility and the use of Sections & Turning Points, 1/3rd, 1/3rd, 1/3rd money management methods or my 1 + 4 Side Parlay random wagering side bets without much thought, except getting enough win money to divide up and let those ride every so often. 

                       Interpretation Alters the Reality With the Game Of Baccarat

By: Alrealx/Glen.

Each shoe is a series of events, and with each event we attach a meaning. With each event we decide upon an interpretation and then we believe what we just interpreted and rely on that for the next matching event. It is with these interpretations or attached meanings that we define what will happen and how we will wager. Then we go about collecting evidence to confirm and validate these interpretations and merge them into our gaming plan and strategy.  Which normally causes the highest majority of people to lose much more than they win.

The baccarat shoe is a series of events, and with each event we attach a meaning. With each event we decide upon an interpretation. It is with these interpretations or meanings and definitions we attach to them, that we define when and what to wager with the grand plan to win money. Then when we do win with those, we convince ourselves of the evidence to confirm and validate those interpretations our great minds have finally found and substantiated.

In truth, each event you experience within a shoe of baccarat, might or might not repeat itself nearly the same or more frustrating, exactly the opposite. It is the interpretation of the events that shape your thought process and how you view what you just sat through. In other words, it is not what happened in the shoe that made the difference, it was what you decided about what happened and how it happened, that made all the difference. It was what you decided caused or did not come about, that affected your decision-making process. You just became a victim of your own interpretations, your own narrative, you own realization of the game of baccarat. You became fixed in your experience and continued to feed the events with further interpretations that shaped all your beliefs, which then compelled you to act them out even if it was detrimental to yourself and your bank roll. Because after all, you found all of this, your ego and money are at stake and you cannot be wrong, everyone else is.  Of course, no?  You will not chastise yourself, you will not admit you do not know, you will not realize for many years of playing baccarat that the game will produce exactly what you discovered, did not discover and in no particular order whatsoever.  All that happens is you maintain hope because at times you get it correct and with greater volume, you are completely wrong.

It is from this realm of interpretation that your reality of the game of baccarat was shaped, ground into your thought process and interpreted by yourself as a beatable, easy game that is just there waiting for suckers that do not know what you have discovered.

It may have appeared that events you have discovered and highlighted within the game of baccarat are either distinct from each other or similar.  That you move your wagers from one to another, separated by some degree of special knowledge you claim fame to. From this point of view, things seem not to be random any longer to you, just leading you to win after win and reinforcing the interpretation you have formed and now believe.  And that my friend is how we get sucked in.  No matter the experience or not, receiving free money and winning will play with your mind at the table.  Some say no, but the reality is, it most certainly will.

Now if you were to take a step back and really look at the game with an open mind and some distance, you will see the totality of the game as it really is and not as a single flowing event. If you step back further, you will see that the game will produce anything and everything in no particular order.  You have a right and ability to harness and experience whatever you do believe with the game of baccarat. That belief can only take place from experience and not from computer technology to figure out what will or will not show up over hundreds of thousands or millions or hands.  This awareness alone is tremendously valuable, yet so few believe it.  They are convinced the game is based on numbers and numbers will govern the game to a balance that they can certainly be figured out.  Sorry, it cannot and will never happen that way.  But pursue what you desire and find out for yourself.

When you make the distinction between the event and the interpretation of the event, you will begin to operate from awareness -- that in each moment and event is an infinite field of possible reactions and responses. You choose. And whatever choice you make will cause and direct all your future experiences, which will be your interpretations of the game you formed.  You will no longer see the game of baccarat as it is presented, you will only see what you have interpreted as the game of baccarat.  And that my friend is the real dangerous part.  That part will cause you to capitalize on some of the game sometimes and when the real opportunity presents itself, you will certainly miss it because that opportunity will certainly not match your interpretation of the game you have formed.

Forget about interpretation.  Interpretation of the game of baccarat will not prove profitable to the player.  It will confuse you and misalign you with your false beliefs.

View the baccarat shoe as one seamless limited event with Sections and Turning Points, that brings into focus of how important all single moments are and not repetitive and/or scheduled, because they are not.  In these moments you have the power to transform your wagering into something that could prove profitable and redundant to a certain point. This moment is there to be capitalized on with your recognition and experience, not your interpretation of a baccarat shoe.  Part of its ceaseless flow, its limitless potential, will occur sporadically during moments offering you an infinite realm of possibilities.

Only in being of the frame of mind that does not rely on interpretation of unknown events, you will allow yourself to recognize certain shoe presentments when it is presenting certain Sections and Turning Points, no longer based on negative interpretations and the past. This is the essence of playing a shoe that can and will produce anything and everything no matter how frequent or rare the event might be.

That is why it is so important to learn to, be in the moment, in order to experience the genius of yourself, who you really are and what a baccarat shoe can and might  present. No doubt there is a bigger picture out there; it is up to you to master the art of the no interpretation and the reality of baccarat.

Have you ever really managed your money and gave yourself the advantage with win money to turn it into larger sums at the table when you were playing?

I am not talking about wagering one or two units out of 20 units and stopping when you hit a 5 unit loss or a 5 unit win.  All that will do, 100% of the times is grind you down sooner or later, period, simple as that.  If you do not belief me, just do it and report back. 

But like I said, really give yoruself an advantage and the fuel to smack the casino with their own money you just won?  Or do you just replace your losses and call that gambling and move on?

My buy in is my risk money and that is part of a bank roll.  It is my risk capital I attmept to win with and when I win, my bak roll is replenished if it was down and then i move on to really win.  I have wrote enough here that all people know I have levels and plateaus that are vital to stay at and not gamble to always be gambling larger and larger, bigger and bigger, etc.

I have found the 3 biggest things in Money Management that give me huge advantages are the following:

1)  A system of 1/3rd, 1/3rd, 1/3rd management of my wins.  Which I have wrote about.  In brief that means, I take 1/3rd of a certain amount of win money at a certain time and put it into my buy in stack of chips, I take another 1/3rd of the win money and save it in a pocket for a possible re buy in if i feel the urge and the action is there after a certain amoutn of time that session when i lose.  I take the remaining 1/3rd of the win money and put it away and will not touch it no matter what, and that last 1/3rd would be equal or greater than the buy in I currently had at risk and in play;

2)  Postive progressions of some type when winning.  1-3-2-6 or something else.  Or, one initial wager followed by 2 parlays and then 3 pull downs and then a large 7th or 8th wager at some point with a pull down and a division of the 1/3rd MM system above.  Then to a larger inital wager bet and a pull down and saving of any wins from that wager;

3)  The employing of my (1 + 4 Side Parlay Wager) that can prove to be extremely profitable with huge returns.  Not be be confused or classified with my intiial wager, no matetr if that initial, regualr or steady wager is flat betting, progression or whatever it is.  A (1 + 4 Side Parlay Wager) of mine is a separate wager no matter what I wagered it on.  Say I won $500.00.  I might be wagering $100 or $150 on something.  Out of that $500.00, I might allocate $300.00 for 4 attempts to make a successful (1 + 4 Side Parlay Wager) be successful.  Example.  4 attempts at $75.00 no matter what I am wagering in or on something else.  The Side Parlay is never my main or only wager for many reasons and factors.  It is strictly on the side.  $75.00 and parlay the wins 4 times and then out with that.  That money or win will never touch my buy in, it is strictly win and hold.  If not I lost $300.00 of a previous win.  $75.00 with 4 attempts as I said.  $75.00 first wager.  $150.00 for the 2nd.  $300.00 for the 3rd.  $600.00 for the 4th.  $1,200.00 for the 5th.  That is 1 + 4 parlays.  The result would be a profit of $2,400.00.  I give myself 4 complete chances on the casino to accomplish that with the $300.00 of previous win money, rather than throwing that part of a previous win (the $300 into my pocket or my buy in stack, etc.).  With a $600.00 (1 + 4 Side Parlay Wager) chance, I do the following.  1st wager of $150.00.  3nd wager of $300.00.  3rd wager of $600.00.  4th wager of $1,200.00.  5th wager of $2,400.00. 

So go ahead and believe that a 3 or a 5 unit stop loss and coupled with a 3 or a 5 or even a 10 unit stop win will allow you to be a successful gambler.  I laugh until my stomach hurts when I read the gist of so many Money Management Systems that people claim allow them to employ a stop loss or a stop and how successful they are. 

There has been talk and interest in the topic of first sitting down and beginning the bac play. 

Upon deciding my risk level and how much to buy in with, which is a portion of my bank roll available, I would get an assortment of green and black chips for the most part and a stack of red chips as well.  I would decide what my first 6 to 10 wagers will be based upon the Section, Presentments and Events I can observe, see and realize the few just before I sat down as well as the immediate ones occurring. 

I do like to start with generally only B or P wagers and if I won a couple, dedicate those win amounts to some various side wagers such as the F-7, P-8, 3 Card 8-9s, and the other various side high payout wagers available without the tie bets. 

I immediately begn my 1/3rd application of money management method application as well.  After a section or possibly the second section of the shoe at hand, I would strive to allocate a certain amount of chips to wager for a 1 + 4 Side Parlay block of wagering, probably setting enough aside for 4 or 5 equal chances to complete one of those. 

There are lots of things I try to play out at the tables, but the selection and application of any group of them, is always dependent upon what is being presented, the people, the immediate successes or failures with my wagers as well as others, and everything happening that can or can not be used. 

What a shoe!  Fantastic.  Just following what it is producing.  Plenty of Players Side Dragon Bonuses.  If it was not a natural or at least a 7, almost every 3rd card pull, raised the Players side to 7, 8 or 9 and/or if the Banker Side pulled, it was almost always a reduction to near zero if not zero.  Numerous 8 or 9 total hand values over the Bankers side of 0 or 1.


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After I took the picture, it was 3 more Players followed by one Banker, followed by another 3 Players.  Then 3 ties in a row followed by 5 additional Players.

Then a long Section of Chop-Chop. 

I told you guys about the 0-1-2 or 3 (Low Ties) being present with strong presentments or even a weak event and both their consistencies. 

11 and 11 in the near beginning.  5 Fortune 7s in the shoe.  Banker run had 2 Fortune 7s in it!  Loved that!  Two more followed not long after. 


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Panda 8 pays off and another Panda 8 follows not long after.  Loved that also.  We switched casinos to play the Bad Beat Bac.  Note the Bad Beat win on the Player also, quadruple hit.  Player wins with a Panda 8, Bad Beat wins, Panda 8 wager wins and also if you had Any 8/7 you would have won that also.  When player is strong, it is strong! 

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Correct Thinking:        Focusing Correctly
                                 Anticipating & Neutralizing Pressure

Understanding Decision:   Causes & Multiple Causes
                                      Decision Criteria
                                      Making the Decision
                                      Understand & Recognizing Influence

Structuring:  Defining Your Structured Wagers
                   Bank Roll & Buy In
                   Realizing the Risk
                   Being Governed by the Risk & Reward

Learning from Experience:  Planning
                                        Execute
                                        Awarness
                                        Reflection
                                        Learning

The Opportunity:  Identifying
                           Recognizing
                           Implementation
                           Closing the Loop

Winning Method:  Frame of Mind
                          Do It Now
                          Reapply
                          Template-Routine-Process

Wagering:     Levels & Plateaus
                    1/3rd, 1/3rd, 1/3rd
                    1 + 4 Side Parlay (on again-off again wager)
                    Positive Progressions
                    Parlaying
                    Flat Wagering
                    Side Wagers and knowing the Proper Allocation for Them
                   
Comp's--Front Money--Rebates--& Other Perks:  Understood, Used & Rationalized Out.

After much thought the past few days, I choose to bring forward something I have observed, attempted to define, follow and pursue for some time now.  I rather not label this and the many other results of, "Playing What is Being Presented In Front Of You", a trend, pattern, or anything of the likes.  It is a reoccurring event in the game of baccarat and what is extremely profitable to wager on when it is happening. 

I have notice and started to earmarked a reoccurring trend concerning the Players side, clumping, strong wins, 3rd card increases to win, etc., more so in the beginning and first half of shoes, more than elsewhere. 

I have posted numerous pictures of live B&M shoes the past several months but have slowed down in my posting of same due to the sideways battles and intense trolling, demeaning, chastising and humiliation by a small group of others that attack us here just prior to my purchase of BetSelection. 

In the near future I will certainly get back in that same grove of things and will continue with this.

Please remember, I am into live B&M Bac gaming, not on-line casinos from the house, etc.  There are influences that I have written about.  Some of us will admit and recognize those and yet others use the very things I wrote about as their ammunition, fuel and content to write their drama and utter non-sense with.  Please bear that in mind.

* The event produces more Players than Bankers; 
* The event usually clumps those Players rather than 2s and 3s of the Players versus a single or the sporadic double Banker;
* The event usually has 6 or higher total point winning Players side values, Or the 3rd card for the Players adding points that are falling the highest amount of times raising Players to 7-8 or 9;
* The event produces numerous 3rd card Banker side reductions to zero total hand value or nearly zero;
* The event happens far in excess of the Bankers side doing the same or similar type events;
* The event adheres to the +10 to +20 count of P versus B;
* The event will usually diminish itself after no more than 1/2 the shoe while reverting to the the trend of equalization/equilibrium, at least down to the count of + - 0 to + 6 or so before the Banker comes forward.

There are additional identifiers but those are the ones to get started here, off the top of my head.

Buy-In, 1-3-2-6 & 1+4 Wagering, Money Management System

I personally feel that those having a ?set anything? in gambling, especially playing baccarat is adding to the negativities and the volatility of the game against you.  What I am referring to is wagering and your money management, which are two of the most important things in gambling at baccarat.

After decades and decades of gambling at baccarat, I wholeheartedly believe and subscribe to a few different attacks on the game.  I normally do get into the mind-set of using all three when I sit down, at times I forgo one of them, but usually stay on track simultaneously alternating or combining them.  Here they are.

1)   My buy-in.  I do not like to re-buy in at all.  I feel that is a negative and a false cushion.  Many I observe with a low buy-in to their fund that they will risk and if lost, they re-buy in once again.  If they bring say $1,800.00 players might buy in up to 6 times with $300.00 each time.  I feel, that they have a false-cushion with safety and planning that way.  They are always saying, ?if I lose this in front of me?I will just buy in once again?, etc.  I rather see all my risk money in front of me before I win and divide it up, add to it and place some in reserve; 

2)   1-3-2-6 Positive Progression.  My positive progression used the majority of the time.  I do not subscribe to negative progression unless it is a series of 2, possible 3 times and then only---if the pattern, trends and previous shoe outcomes warrant it, IMO, but almost never--will I did into my buy in risk funds to start engaging in a negative progression recouping effort; 

3)   1 + 4 Side Parlay Wager.  I try to always have a side wager going for myself, when I am on a 'run' I can profit huge with my '1 unit' and then parlay that 1 unit, four times.  The one unit would normally come from a previous win amount.  As a rule, say I won $800.00, I might put $500 in my stack and then with the 3-$100 amounts, attempt a couple of 1 + 4 Parlay wagers.  I can't view it except anything but my ?lucky attempts? and my "lucky money", if I succeed with doing that one time, I would be winning $1,600.00 on the $100.00 parlay.  Better yet, what I do many times, is allocate something like $700 or $800 for a 4 chance attempt.  Say $800.00 with four chances at $200.00 each.  One successful win would net me a $3,200.00 from that initial $200.00 I played out. 

4)   1/3rd, 1/3rd, 1/3rd Money Management System.  When I double or triple my buy-in, I employ a money management system.  I divide up whatever amount I am winning, into thirds and put 1/3rd with my current buy-in, 1/3rd with a reserved amount in my pocket if I lose and desire to stay for whatever reasons and the other 1/3rd into a ?locked up? status that will not be deviated from.  I constantly divide up the win money every so often into those categories if I won. 

To me, it is all second nature.  And, after thinking back each time, I have noticed countless times, that one or the other saved me from the complete depletion of my buy-in. 

Getting ahead and quitting is very hard for myself without certain parameters that I mentioned above.  It allows me to see clearly at the table, focus on what I won, put away, have available, etc.  Instead of having a pile of chips and trying to be conscious of what I will gamble, hold, cash out or keep for later play, etc.  It works well for me the way I outlined.  It has nothing to do with wagering or strategy, it is simply a quick and easy method for all my misc., other than bet placement/bet selection method.  It does allow me to win more if I can and hold a certain amount without giving it back, etc.

Here is my reasoning.  "A Goal".  If it comes you are stopping--the true joy, the true ecstasy of the greatest game and easiest way to earn money, etc., etc.   If it doesn't come, you are going to fight, demand and feel hurt--abused--and cheated.  "Why am I here", "Why did I come here tonight", "Boy this life sucks", etc., etc., and so on.  But with both of those, you will always have, 'small losses and small wins', that is, if you stick to your stop loss and stick to your 'small win-immediate leave' protocol. Some how, at some time and inevitable--you will be busted out, ground down.  The question is not if---the question is--when.

So if you feel comfortable wagering a set amount of money and timing yourself with the wins as well as the losses, so be it.  You are, IMO, hampering any chances you truly have in this game.  I have seen hundreds turned into tens of thousands and thousands turning into hundreds of thousands.  It is all up to you, how you play, think and attack the casino.  But, what happens more times than others, is that you will feel shorted and used when you lose forcing yourself to allow repetitive buy-ins.  When you win you might be overcome with another personality and aura that will deplete all of your win and buy-in funds without offering you any chance to continue winning or maintain a certain amount you previously committed to stashing away. 

Bank Rolls, Buy-Ins, Money Management, Wagering, Believes, Etc.

Money Management Systems tailored for your style and profit goals, etc., is the way to fuel your $$$ into your pockets when you gamble!

Lack of it will make you unsuccessful, not your choice of wagers or most other things, but lack of a money management system will hurt you more than any other thing in gambling, period!

The whole picture is your Bank roll and what you risk when you play out of your bank roll.  Personally, when I am playing locally and not staying for a week, say in Las Vegas or another major gambling destination, I only take my buy-in which is a small percentage of my dedicated bank roll.  Personally, I do risk my buy-in for the session without a stop loss.  More times than not, meaning the majority of times I can profit.  The few times I do loss my buy-in, it is far outweighed by my wins, because I use a 1/3rd Money Management System that, I refined to allow myself to leave with win money and as well?replace my original buy-in without further risk to that either. 

Buy-Ins.  So, buy-ins are totally separate from the bank roll.  5-10% buy-in at the most of the bank roll.  Personally, I cannot envision playing every day as many state they do or desire to do.  The fallacy of winning every day or having large enough bank rolls to survive hundreds of units of down swings to make a few units, is still ?dreamsville? to me after playing for around 40 years.  Personally, once or twice a week is about it, at least on a regular basis, IMO and experience.   My other rock solid iron clad rule that I might break once every 100 trips, is never buying in a second time if the buy in was lost without being able to play on win money. 

Win Money.  Personally, I employ my 1/3rd-1/3rd-1/3rd money management system which cannot and will not fail me to replace my buy-in and always leave with win money.  Period. 

What so many baccarat players I have played alongside, observed and been associated with over the years, make a single mistake.  Which is, the continued buying in after they lose their initial buy-in.  They have no structure or self-control, none.  They will drain themselves in the worst catch-22 situations they create and entrap themselves in.  If you lose, you lose.  That is it.  If you can?t get past this?nothing can or will ever help you.  Nothing, zip.  Keep losing your units and keep flat betting or even negative progression and all you do is sink yourself worse and worse.

Win money causes more clouded vision and obnoxious behavior at the baccarat table.  Get over it.  Know what wins are and how they come or do not come in proportion to losses.  You will do yourself a huge justice by learning what I just said. 

Stop believing what you play on paper using a free game, such as the one on Wizard of Odds website or any of the other on-line casino websites where they offer practice shoes.  There are other factors within a casino that come into play that do not exist on the internet. 

If you have no plan or a haphazard notion, or you sometimes do this or that with your win money---you will risk it and lose it every single time.  Those that use their win money to fuel their positive session they start to encounter will eventually lose it all, because you will play until you get it back, you will lose it all plus anything you have access to.

Do not keep adding to your bank roll.  You will doom yourself.

Do not play larger because you won a few sessions.

1-2-3-4 or 2-4-6-12, etc., positive progression will kill you if you religiously do them.  I talked about this numerous times in other posts I written.  It is easy to win one or two wagers, it is really hard beyond comprehension to continually win 4 or more in a row.  300 to 600 to 1,200 to 2,400 will happen so rarely, your lost units will outweigh by huge amounts, your won units!  That is why I subscribe to 1-3-2-6 and other versions of that style.  If I win one or two, then I ride free to win larger.  Another story and like I said, I wrote and explained that in detailed before on the board.  I promise you that it is the only way to do good-okay or at least better in the long run. 

Concerning playing every day or say 5 to 6 times a week, your mind will not allow you to play level headed and repeatedly profit a few units and continually build you bank roll.  So many preach it?it is not realistic or doable.  Sorry to harp on it, but I see it all the time.  It is not going to happen.  You will lose more than you win.  Again, looks great on paper and in theory, but you cannot and will not do it and religiously profit every week, week in and week out.

So much talk about 1's, 2's and 3's.  With it or against it.  The times you are correct you will eventually (seriously 100% of the time over say a period of sessions) give it all back by continually believing and wagering the way you just won.  That same shoe will produce just as many 1's, 2's and 3's and "cuts", the opposite way that you wager on, and if that one does not---the subsequent ones you will be playing that same day or the following days, will.  Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it will happen the absolute highest majority of the times. 

The way you can be successful at something like that, is to be there when it happens with a certain wagering thought, but immediately after you profit from it, you have to religiously subscribe to 'refreshing and resetting' and forgetting about that.  Not particularly easy as the psychological effect will attempt to steer you to what just made you $$$ and made you delightful and feeling good all over.  Then as you attempt the replication of that same series of wagering, the shoe presentments went the opposite ways. 

Money Management Systems,.  M.M. is much more than a negative or a positive progression.  Much more than a win-stop or a loss-stop.  That is where so many will fail as well.  They play all the time, every session as if attempting to repeat their best one or copy in real life as to what they learned on paper or the internet.  Real life is a bit different than Doctor Seuss books once you are older than say 10 years old, IMO.  Realize it.

There are coincidences and phenomena in baccarat, and that is what will cloud your vision and confuse you, more than anything else in this game!  Instilling a bad sense of knowledge you will (I promise you!) wager on.  Meaning, what you saw altered your good vision or your good sense of judgement and you believed the shoe will present the hands according to what you desire through wishful thinking or fallacy beliefs.  Once you figure all this out through experience and losses, you can become a very profitable baccarat player.  Real life analogy.  Think of what I just said in this paragraph as erotic foreplay you seen in a movie.  Translate that to yourself and your erotic desires.  How many times will you lay your eyes on a female, grasp each other, go buy the bottle of wine and strip each other's clothes off and find yourself on those silk and satin sheets with the wind blowing through the open window and the dove that, suddenly flew in and perched himself on the bedpost as you make love to the most beautiful girl you happened to meet in your life and you don't even know her name?

Playing -?-, -?- or -?- of the shoes or only wagering after ever 4th repeating banker or player for the '1s' or the 'cuts', does not matter.  As many times as you win those, you will lose when those do not happen.  Simple.  But those that go into dialog s, real convincing and real slick will convince you otherwise.  Counting, waiting and looking for an event will not work in the long run.  It might for the same day-one session and if you only play once or twice a year, but it will not if you play on a regular basis.  Playing that way will kill you, I promise you!

Call me crazy, call me the Rain Man with this repetitive talk.  But you know what, it freaking works. 

Haphazard sucks and willpower and devotion to flat betting is like seeing how far a knife can stick into you without passing out.  The list truly goes on. 

Wager 1:  $100 wager and win.  $200 in front of you.
Wager 2:  $300 wager and win.  $600 in front of you. ($200 back in buy-in, $200 next wager/$200 side)

If you did lose at this point, you only invested the 2 units of your buy-in, say you bought-in with $1,000 and got your 10 black chips.  If you won at this point you have a $400 win.  Think about it---you are going to wager anyway, why not have a plan and a way to capitalize if it does go your way, instead of just throwing your chips into your buy-in and keep trying for more and more??? 

Here comes the best part, if you won--you are on the casino's money (yes it is yours but you want to gamble like me and you want to win something more than a couple hundred, or if you are in a larger gaming jurisdiction--say Vegas, AC, Connecticut or Florida you can make that $100/1 Unit, $500, etc.)  To me, at this point it is Money Management to a point because you are certainly managing and maximizing your bank roll and chances. Wagers 3 and 4 are the best, '2 free chances' now that you paid your dues on the first two, no further risk on the these two.

Wager 3:  $200 wager and win.  $400 in front of you.  (You now have $600 win and you have nothing
                                                                                 from your original buy-in at risk)
Wager 4:  $600 wager and win.  $1,200 in front of you.  (If you lost, oh well, back to the one unit, even
                                                                                    you won, back to one unit, the same or higher)

Now, if I won Wager 3, I would take at least one more unit from my buy-in, and in this case, that would have been $100.  I would also wager my 4 parlay 'side wager'.  Yes, on top of my 1-3-2-6 wagering bet of course.  With the 4 time parlay, I would set that aside and probably not wager it consecutively, just here and there.  Wager the first time and parlay 4 times.  So with this, I attempt the $100, $200, $400, $800, $1,600 wagers.  If I am successful on that, the ultimate before pocketing, would be $3,200 for a $3,100 profit. 

And, like I mentioned--I don't wager this '1 and 4 parlay' every hand, but it is my separate wager of sorts whether combined with another one or by itself. 

That way, I have extra action-motivation and things going on.  For myself, it works out a heck of a lot better than haphazardly wagering.  Thus, giving yourself real purpose and direction in wagering goals and a plan of sorts.

PS:  You do not have to wager every hand either.  Do not forget: The 1 + 4 Side Parlay is a separate action wager going on aside from your main wagering action.