Visual Curve


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Once you figure out the basics of the game, you will see it a bit clearer.  You might not know every hand coming out, but your frame of mind will see things a little clearer, here is an example.  Jumbled up and a little bit easier to see.  Top Versus the Bottom:

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BY: Alrelax/Glen 6-4-2019

Meaningful relationship are inclinations. The relationships you engage that are derived from both personal and tangible things will produce knowledge, experience and information of all types.  That knowledge, experiences and information can be positive, great and money-making ammunition or it can very well be negative, horrible and a financial ruining adventure!  Therefore, you need to concentrate on yourself, your knowledge, experience, information sources and application of those things along with all the other psychological and frame-of-mind contributors that will allow you to excel in the game of baccarat.

Problem is; In the last 20 or so years, the huge growth that took off from the beginning of the internet and available information and technology days, is the exponential growth of INSTANT KNOWLEDGE, INSTANT ANSWERS, INSTANT EXPERIENCE for almost all taste it in your mouth gamblers, without the blood-sweat and tears of being in the trenches and learning it the way we used to.  Two different avenues, two different ways entirely.  Being at the table for years with decent players in real atmospheres of the real thing with real money is a world of difference than practicing on a computer, jumping on a forum and reading and not even having the judgement to know if the person you are learning from or talking to is a scam artist or a 3 month, new to the game player, etc., or anything of a hundred other off the wall motivating reasons the others are there and telling you stuff.

It is certainly two-fold, do not get me wrong.  First, there are millions and millions, billions and billions and most likely trillions and trillions of potentially interesting things on the internet.  However, when it comes to learning something, there is probably an equal amount of fake, non-researched, non-verified or just plain scam artist type of fake stuff as there are the real deal, nitty gritty bits and pieces.  Fun to think you just secretly read the holy grail or stumbled upon the greatest baccarat gambling formula from some claiming to be professional that spends all day on the computer causing misnomers about people, other members of forums as well as anything else or anyone else they can chastise, humiliate or talk down to.  Why?  I have no real idea except they are time wasters and what we used to call in the auto business, tire kickers. 

The expectation is, that we can use the information to make predication, math, statistical and all that work for us as well as their own special ways as to when and how to place wagers.  Nothing else exists in the game to win, according to those that write, post and press that information, etc.  And there most certainly is tons of other things that will allow you to win, keep winning, cash out and walk with profit or lose without ever really having a chance to consistently or sporadically take a profit from playing.  Back to the main purpose here.  I am not saying that we have not made any progress in positive and real applications of gaming knowledge because of the internet, we have.  But I do believe the negative and the wrong concerning gambling and baccarat are far in excess than the other way around on the internet message boards, forums and the paid sites.

Considering that there are millions and billions and trillions of papers and all that on the internet, it would be a shame if there was not useful stuff. But they are obviously not all real, useful or going to lead you immediately down easy street and onto the holy grail within a few days.  You will still have to define, interpreted and discover what is reliable, accurate and useful for your financial assets that you are risking and playing with and how to set your own protocols and plans.  The average Joe reading a good portion of the stuff we write, will not use any of it, IMO.  He will believe he is researching and learning, but his brain and own experiences and knowledge will overwhelm him with complete changes to most everything he reads on the internet when it comes to risking his own money on it.  Most, and I use that word with lightness, MOST, are not really contributing much to generating knowledge or really anything worthwhile at all.  Then they all get talked about and passed on with twists and turns, etc., etc.

And just about everyone, probably 95-98% conservatively, out of every 100 people at baccarat tables around the country, would never consider themselves an average Joe.  Never.  Never ever.  And therein lies today's problem, false positives.  FALSE-POSITIVES.  Read, absorb, believe and behave with false positives that control, influence and direct you to the wrong thinking, beliefs and theories at the baccarat table and you just earmarked your bank roll and every buy in for donation to the casino. 

That is why our predictions may be more prone to failure in this era of big data availability.  AKA: The Internet.  For those of you that really played prior to 2000, maybe 1996 or so, you cannot honestly tell me that there was all this theory, gossip, formulas and knowledge that we instantly find on all the message boards, forums and paid sites today back then.  No possible way, sorry it was not. 

As there is an exponential increase in the amount of available information. There is likewise and exponential increase in the number of hypothesis to investigate.  There is so much misunderstood and miscalculated, unproven and biased information out there to easily click on, it is dangerous.

But the sheer number of meaningful relationships within; The data, theories and experiences elaborating upon and posted on the internet forums, message boards, web sites, and sold by systems inventors (or whatever they are called, scam artists to doctors to wizards) , etc., is huge and then the correlation begins as to how the baccarat world really works and all that data, does not lend credence to anything, does not make it all or any of it the real truth.  Most of the data is just noise, as much as the universe is filled with empty space.  Reality, hard core reality.

So, a mathematical person can equate and explain problems, so what? So, a statistical person can lay out, define and explain equation involving millions of hands or shoes of baccarat, so what?  All of that and many more like them, all mean absolutely zero in wagering on the next 10 to 15 or 5 to 30 hands of baccarat at a casino.  No one knows the order of the cards and how they will come out.  No one. Unless of course you are a member of The Tran Crew and you already seen the cards come out and they were not shuffled going back in the shoe. 

There is knowledge and experience that is valuable as well as huge amounts that are nothing more than fallacy, wishful thinking and twisted reality that is by far most of the data out there.  The knowledge and experience that would lend actual credence to you, that you will find and read on the internet is low.  Some, but not much at all. 

And the bottom line is; That the real accurate data, tips, stories, experiences, long term consistent positive stuff is small, real small.  But the flip side is, the little bit that is out there, must be used correctly, not just used without further knowledge, care, concern or background, Understand?

Here is how false positives dominate the internet as well as the baccarat tables.  Hypotheses are 80% or better of true scientific data and correctly deemed to be true.  And about 90% of false hypotheses are correctly rejected.  And yet, because true findings are so rare, about two thirds or better of the finding deemed to be true, actually are false!

Why is the error rate so high? To some extent, that question cannot be answered with completeness the way you would like it to be or the way the system inventors, drama kings and the troublemakers spreading their everyday poop, would challenge it to be answered with exact completeness.  However, a close answer will be this in my opinion.  There are many reasons for it, some having to do with our psychological biases, some having to do with common methodological errors that are believed but the naive, and the rest having to do with misaligned incentives.  And the closest reason for the rest of the problem is a flawed type of statistical thinking that players of baccarat want to be winners are desperate to believe.  That is why the complete answer will never really be exposed and even if it is, those reasons will always, always keep it covered up and not widely spread.

Back when everyone was awed by AWACS Airplanes, New special units of the DEA, Specialized and Classified joint law enforcement, Military and Intelligence Agencies interfacing together to fight the War on Drugs, etc.  That was all headlines for a long time and many grabbing numbers justified everything for anyone seeking some numbers.  Numbers justify everything but mean nothing without people and their brains to use them, profit from them and get something from them.  Many of those same principals were transpired, used and reinvented into business models as well as the gambling industry from the laypersons standpoint anyways. 

And here is all you had to know if you ran into a bad spot and you were high up at the time.  Nikita Khrushchev.  When Khrushchev was forced out, he sat down and wrote 2 letters, he gave then to his successors.  And said; When you get yourself into a situation you can not get out of, open the first letter.  When you get yourself into another situation you can not get out of, open the second letter.  Well, soon enough this guy found himself in a tight place, so he opened the first letter, which said, Blame everything on me.  So, he blamed the old man and it worked liked a charm!  The guy went to the mirror, looked at himself in it, put his hands on his hips and said; You are the man, wow this stuff is easy, just blame some one and it goes away.  Well he got himself into a second situation he could not get out of, so he opened the second letter.  It said; Sit down and write 2 letters.

Understand?

I was playing this shoe with 2 others that i really admire in many ways.  The table was really full plus a couple of back bettors and quite a few family members as well.  It was late, real late when we got to the casino. 

That Asian Lady I have been mentioning in my posts is a suburb player in so many ways.  Patient most times (although she has her hyper have to get my lost money back fits at times) she is a pretty cool player.  She has a keen eye for the most parts with her side bets or side wagers, whatever you all label them.  We have done extremely well together.  She will usually stay too long and begin to get way over confident, the exact same way I used to be in my earlier days.  But I reserve and remove all my side wagered wins from the table these days.  Those are pocketed and forgotten about almost immediately.  Very important!

There was a guy there that is a great player.  Comes with $3,000.00 as a norm.  Buys in with $500 or $1,000 at a time.  Generally wins and leaves after 5 to 10 parlays no matter if her wins or losses.  Never goes to the ATM, cash checks or calls for additional money to be brought to the casino like most players these days continually do. 

He likes not one thing.  Cuts, chops, streaks, 1s or 2s, naturals effecting the next hand, etc., etc.  He will generally do a $300 or $400 wager and then parlay it once and parlay the same thing twice, before backing down once again.   We both seen and felt the Players in the beginning of this shoe.  We hit most of the first 7 straight down.  He wagered on the first one, waited on the second one, bet the Banker on the third one and then hit 2 of the Players continuing ones after the 4th one for two parlays.  I hit most of them, I switched to Banker once but immediately back to Players.   Everyone else was hyped, large wagers and lost all their buy ins and continued to buy in again and again, continuing on the Bankers side, especially on the 4th through the 7th Player win. 

This could have been a rock and roll table, and I mean that will all sincerity, but these people these days just will not concentrate and realize it is about taking money from the casino and not showing how smart you are or banging out another person on the opposite side, etc. 

As son as it switched to the Banker, almost all were on it and attempting to recoup thousands each one of them lost.  I was on the Players side.  I loved the Banker and thought the Banker would do the classic old school straight down, side by side to the Players.  I won the second Banker and the third Banker.

Three Natural Bankers, side by side to the three Natural Players.  Classic. I lost the last Banker of course.  Then the Player started again. The whole table took a break.  Some went to the restroom and some went to get something to drink.  Everyone was really tired, no doubt about it.  There was a couple of big time arguments with two of the guys at the table and their wives standing there screaming at them to leave.  I talked to the guy I like playing bac with and he said he would wager the Players side straight down to do a box. 

When everyone got back to the table, and yes, most of us will hold up the game and wait for people that specifically said they were coming back and do not play, etc.  This is a Macau style game and it is slow, real slow.  Shoes with a full table are never ever under 2 hours on their fastest days.  I wagered on the Players side and take max of $160.00 on the Panda 8 and the Panda 8 came out for the 2nd time right then.  3 with a 5 as the third card on top and the Bankers had 3 monkeys.   I rode it all the way down until it made the box.  Then I wagered on the Bankers and almost everyone stayed on Players.  It made the Banker.

Then the guy and me played the chop twice for the three times it did just that.  I got messed up, lost my concentration and frame of mind totally, after the 4 Bankers came out and the double Banker.  I stuck on the double Banker for additional Banks and should have waited.  I knew it but I did not.  Greed or whatever, overcame me and spun me around.  I started wagering too many hands.  Then the guy did great on all the chops with the longest section of chops appearing in the shoe, he caught them all, all  5 of them with $500, $1,000, $2,000 and $4,000.  The five one, which was the first of the 3 Panda 8s, he did wager $2,500 on the Player with the $160 on the P8 side wager.  he won and stopped playing.  I lost the 4 chops there.  I won large wagers for those 3 Players where the 3 back to back Panda 8s came out as well. 

What I failed to do was really wager heavy consistently without the support of the rest of them.  I get mad at myself for that.  Do not get me wrong, made great money on this shoe, real good money, but if the camaraderie stuck and stayed with us all, this would have been a killer shoe against the casino.  Just too many players these days are shooting for the hero-ship and the drama of knocking others out.  Why?  I have no idea really why.  I thought it was about making money, not losing it or breaking even or just a little bit. 

I found myself wagering larger on the bets when the others were all in concert or at least most of them, rather than being the lone player on one side with a substantial wager of say over $1,000.00 or in comparison with what the others had out there.

I wanted to get these pictures posted, I have more to add about the shoe.  By the way, the shoe up to hand 60 took nearly 3 hours.

I am dead tired and my eyes are blurring.  It is nearly 1 AM.  Stayed up since 11 PM to download, post and get these up. Been on my feet all day at my restaurant.  Up since 5:30 AM.  Time to sleep now.

I will try to finish it up tomorrow, I mean later today, LOL. 

Panda City!  6 Pandas before we stopped, I think when we cashed out and went back to say bye to everyone, there was 7 Panda 8s total. 

We did not regret leaving, the end of the shoe after hand 60, was awfully hard to play anyway, IMO. 

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The PANDA 8's in a row!  Back to Back to Back.  Two other P-8s sideways, next to each other.  This is what happens when no ties or extremely low ties and lots of naturals all clumping together.  Those are the money shoes. 

The board:

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More of Saturday Night. 

Making the box I wrote about, love those Boxes!  Nothing better when it is strong, especially in the beginning without ties or possibly only 1 tie.  No ties or low ties, stay strong or extremely weak with a definable pattern/trend as it is being presented, very very frequently.  Huge advantage to the experienced player recognizing it.  This is where clear conscious frame of mind comes into play!

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More of THE BOX!  Love it!  Classic.  No ties!  The classic, make the box and cut and we played it that way.  We matched the presentments of the shoe, and most definitely we were not wagering for the show to change up.  Huge difference guys!

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Fortune 7 Won: I think it was hand 57 as we stopped playing at 59 or 60 and cashed out and left.

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The Asian Lady I made reference to in the past.  She is a great player, simply one of the best I have ever come across, until her husband and other members of her fan club sit down and they order beer, she does not drink, the rest of them do and they get crazy, each and every time.  So very sad!  They are young, in their late 20's, but she is extremely mature for her age, the others are not.  We have won great sitting next to each other or signalling across the entire table what to wager on and why.  She said wager the F-7 on this one, otherwise i would not have, she seen something coming.

I was in Seat #1, with a $70.00 wager and she had an $85.00 wager on it.

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Three Card 8-9 wager, love it, almost every shoe, if not every other one.  Best wager in the entire game of bac!  Seriously! 

Player had 5, Banker had zero, Asian Lady pulls a 4 and she looks at me, says---Glen, time for a Snowman!  I said I will try.  I look, three side!  I did not see the number on the corner, it is at least a 6, I look more, at least a seven.  I put the card down, I yell to her, 7 or 8.  She gets up and screams as loud as she could that she wants an 8.  I slam it down, it was that beautiful 8 you see on the 3rd card for the Banker.  F***ing Nice!  I had table max on it, $20.00, I also wagered $25 on the P8 wager and $30 on the F7 wager, and I went Banker with $300.00 that I lost as well.  Nice $4,000.00 win though!

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PART #2 CHANCE

Chance and How It Effects Your Baccarat Wagering

Here, let me sum it up---at least on a mathematical and my statistical aspect converted to gambling.  Two paragraphs worth, with a sample visual curve, will save you from getting sucked in a dead-end path that will cause you complete bank roll failure.  If you will take my advice.  But hey---it is your money.   

1)   (First Paragraph).  The reason it will lead to failure, is because baccarat can and will do completely different presentments with no rhyme or reason, both mathematically and statistically, as well as complete randomness with no regards to scheduling and order correlating to events within the shoe you are sitting in front of;

2) (Second Paragraph).  Unlike elaborating, which Abraham de Moivre, Doctrine of Chances founded; The same arguments which explode the Nation of Luck may, on the other side, be useful in some cases to establish a due comparison between chances and design.  We may imagine chance and design to be as it were in competition with each other to produce some sorts of events, and may calculate what probability there is, that those events should be rather owing to one then to the other.

One trial and then scale up, putting an (X) where we expect to find our answer and takes the most general form of the problem; If something can happen with probability (A), or can not happen probably (B), in each of the (X) trials, then we can say, putting the power law in to general terms, that the chance of it not happening in every trial or even a cluster or a clump is; The number of trials where the chance will not happen and everything else is deduced down from that.

Because the possibilities of defining when presentments will appear anywhere from 1-80 hands will show up in the exact order and time you have scheduled your wager repeatedly for several wagers; Out of quadrillions of possibilities, it is impossible to do with definitive and concrete adherence by the shoe.  By the way, quadrillions is greater than 999 trillion times.

Unlike the ability to measure a curve to see what fraction of an area between start and midpoint and points in-between will become finite in their outcomes, the baccarat shoe cannot be measured in the same way or any other way that will allow you with finite guaranteed wins. 


NEXT POST WITH BE THE VISUAL CURVE

False Positives & Their Dangers to the Player and Chance.  Fueling Your Losses With Reason.

When wagering on baccarat and you fail to think, think clear, think absolutely clear, think with neutralism, think with purpose, think with the greatest concentration, we will get reinforced with the wrong way to play baccarat.  It happens quick, really quick?so be warned and be conscious of that all of the time.  It is not easy, but you do not want the false positives in your game.  And that is exactly what you will get if you cannot define and be absolutely diligent about your thinking.

There are numerous false positives offering themselves continually within the game of baccarat.  Very dangerous, extremely dangerous to the gullible, inexperienced and player that easily gets sidetracked or is dependent upon something he needs to find to at least think, is tangible to wager because of.  Also, most all players after a while will begin some kind of research into the game.  This takes on several different kinds of research areas.

1)   History of the Game. Different message boards and forums about baccarat and table games.  General and older written articles from various sources.  Media articles about the infamous, the famous, the legendary, etc., gamblers with their large losses and large wins.

2)   Mathematical & Statistical. Message boards, forums, websites and other published material online relating to the same.  The written books one happens to purchase, borrow or locate somewhere.  The attempted application and comparison of these to the game itself as played by the person.

3)   Probability, Chance & Other Things.  And other things of a similar Se-Scheduled nature and their counterparts including other areas of interest to those also.  The same as #2 above.  Once again, the attempted application of those will only lead you to False-Positives, that far outweigh any type of consistent wagering that will award you winning set-scheduled wagering greater than 50% of any time you play. 

4)   Superstition & Methodology. And other things of a similar nature that you convince yourself will allow you to win wagers because of phenomenon, certain events or any other type of presentment capitalization of luck or predication with the danger of conversion within your brain that allows to justify changing just what those were to skill.  Very very dangerous.

5)  Convincing Yourself of Something Guaranteed.   No matter what it is.  Flat betting, wagering after such and such happens or did not happen.  A strict adherence to O.L.D. or W.L.D. or anyone of the other 10-20 rock-solid good wagers to follows as written about, posted and dwelled over anywhere on the internet message boards, forums, websites, paid sites, etc.  Along with the many other gamblers fallacies of Cuts, Trends, Triggers, Patterns, Clusters, Clumps, etc.  Or, just Hog-Wild, I am on a hot run and nothing can or will stop me and ultimately and with great consistent repetitiveness, give it back each and every single session, because you do not believe there are plateaus and levels that control you and what you have the ability to guide yourself through while wagering at the game of baccarat. 

The belief in any or all the above will always provide false positives that will not benefit the player in actual play of any serious kind or more importantly in any serious consistency whatsoever.  What is even worse, is the few positive wins produced by following on any of those things will produce greater and greater influential false-positives because of the great quest for finding the unknown and secretive holy-grail, etc. 

END OF PART #1

I will post the pictures tonight after downloading and resizing them.  Be patient.

Here is the start of the shoe and some of took so much out of the dealers rack, the sole floor person in the pit was on the phone the whole time to the casino general manager off property.  This was late, after 2 AM on the grave yard shift.  There is no casino GM on property most nights unless there is something special at that time of night.  The game was slow, real slow, drawn out, lots of in-fighting among the players.  In fact, I had a great contact I have known for years look me up on Sunday and want to talk about this, as someone called him and attempted to explain what they saw.  After meeting with him yesterday, I am impressed by this shoe to exemplify the possibilities of opportunity for those that are absolutely completely neutral and clear minded to the maximum without on bit of bother from outside that Bac shoe and its presentments. 

B-PPPPPPP-BBB-PPPPPP-B-P-BBB-P-B-PPPP-B-P-BBBB-P

That was the start and the dealer lost almost the whole rack of chips.  5 Panda 8s with three of them in a row!!!!, and 1 three card 8/9 200:1. 

B-P-B-P-B-P-B-P-B-P-B-P-B-P   
   P-B-P        B       P        B
   P-B-P        B       P        B
   P    P                 P        B
   P    P
   P-P-P

Bold Players indicate Panda 8s.

PLEASE NOTE:  I have talked about this and written about this numerous times.  It is a fact and should now be noticed.  0-1-2-3 or extremely low ties means strong, or weak or whatever, but what I call the pattern/trend to be strong, in other words sticking.  Do not confuse sticking to repeating.  Sticking means as I term it, produce presentments to compliment other ones.  this shoe had zero -0- ties in it well past the pictures I will post when we bailed out at hand 48.  There was ZERO ties in it all the way up to hand 47.

Call me unintelligent, but those boxes, when they come are strong, beautiful and special.  Picture the two of us there are a full hard-core table.  We are both looking at each other, Box-Box-Box-Box-Box every few seconds we are verbally saying and fist bumping each other.  yeah, unintelligent huh?  We hyped each other and hyped and hyped.  The rest except for one, retaliated like we were invading Vietnam back in the 70's. 

And that box with the three Bankers had 11 naturals out of 16 hands.  2 Panda 8s as well. 

More to come with pictures.

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on June 01, 2019, 09:31:33 PM
That line was obviosuly a sarcastic note about how is easy to distrust other's ideas and works putting atop of it the old fkng math issue saying that bac cannot be beaten.

Maybe it could.

as. 

It can in some ways, some days.  Most of the problem is lack of conscious and self control.  We forget the aura and the property will change the best of players.  I do not care what anyone says, it does so many times. 

Had another super great 2 shoes last night, Problem with H-Money and One Dealer, started to throw me off and I actually walked away, leaving chips on the table and went to a quite spot, thought about all this and then went back lost 3 large wagers in the row and left.  Will explain it all with about 10 pictures I took as well.

Things happen and effect every bit of your play at a B&M more so than at home online, IMO and experience. 

I am sorry guys not harping on this, but to me, I see a huge problem with members and people reading these boards.  They misunderstand and take too much for granted.  It really is a 2-sided street in sitting at the Bac table  The two sides that I outlined in the above post. 

Last night I stopped by the casino, first time since last weeks pretty healthy win.  And I opened a shoe, no one playing.  The dealer told me that a few people played earlier and lost, straight lost.  I learned that they were counting or wagering on what I described in #1 above.  All so very common.  Let's record part of the shoe in columns and record so much of it and then we know what to bet, because of such and such.  Sorry, same rubbish as the Roulette crowd with 5 Blacks has to switch to Red or the Hot Numbers will repeat or let us watch 35-40 spins and mark down the numbers that are cold, they have to come around, etc., etc. No darn different!

A guy sits down, changed $1,000.00.  Loses pretty much the whole thing in a few hands.  $300.00 wager lost, $500.00 wager lost.  $200.00 wager won, parlay to $400.00 won.  Wagers the $800.00 and loses.  Buys in again and again.  Finally gets wiped out.  I asked him how he figured his wagers.  He turns to me and tells me. I wait for the second one and play the opposite side.  If it still sticks then I wager for the repeat.  Tells me a few other things.  But the bottom line is, his mind is already made up because he has figured out the game and the shoe.  He is destined to lose the majority of the times.  Like to admit it or not.  Good Bac playing is totally the opposite.

Free up your mind, get into the neutrality zone and play that way.  The shoe can and will produce anything and everything, you cannot set a schedule of wagers based upon a set protocol to adhere to more than the instant shoe you are playing.  And that protocol or schedule of wagers will be different for the next shoe and the following one as well.  It maybe different for the next 10 shoes or it might not be.  But one thing for sure, it will not stick for shoe after shoe after shoe, day after day after day.  Those that preach the earn XYZ unit per week, play 5 or 6 days a week and grind out XYZ based upon their master schedule, is pure hocus pocus to the max!   

Make all the columns you desire and mark them up any way you want them.  Then put your money out there for the shoe to match your wager.  What happens when 15 Players come out followed by a little bit of chop-chop and then 16 Bankers come out straight?  Or there is 5 Fortune 7s in the shoe and the next shoe with another 5 Fortune 7s.  Then you see all that, then you say lets wager Players for streaking or Banker for streaking.  Then it goes to chop-chop or 1s and 2s.  Then you say, look at all those Fortune 7s, I will start wagering Fortune 7s and clean up.  Then there is not a single Fortune 7 for two whole shoes.  What a waste!  Boy, Alrelax is a jerk off! 

Well, by doing just what I outlined above, you are doing the exact same thing as what I originally described in #1.  The same thing.  You are following something.  Successful wagering at Bac does not work that way.  Read>>>DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY.  You have to wager on what the shoe is presenting.  Not what it is going to, or should, or did not or will most likely, or anything along those lines.  Two hands down the road or two hands before means nothing.  Hence 15 or 18 repeats, 20 chop-chops, 12 sections of doubles or anything else, sticking or not and as well, any combination of it all mix up together.  If something happens 5 times because of one thing and 5 times because of something else, you are still not further in the know because of the way the results are produced. 

There is two main beliefs in playing Baccarat. 

One is, playing a mechanical column scoring/recording systematic way method.  Where as, you score, look and find what the past has produced and possibly a tad bit of not being produced and wager for your pre-set and pre-chosen event to happen.  But always within a generic block of results that will not match up to what all or even most shoes are capable of producing and very well will produce. And in my opinion, experience and countless encounters with so many people doing just that, the results will be trivial, the highest majority of the times, if not breaking even or losing.  Is is basically a way to extend the grinding down of pre-guessing results and stating what should happen.

Two is, the absolute conscious awareness of what has happened, is happening and what has not happened within Sections of the shoe.  Coupled with strengths, weaknesses, neutrality and equilibrium at certain and vital points/sections, before and after the established turning points of each shoe.  Not limiting yourself to any pre-set or pre-chosen wagering events where the shoe presentments must meet your expectations, but coinciding with what is happening and what very well does continue or (Key Word Being -OR-) discontinues in the presentments of the shoe.

Bottom line is either capitalizing on a few match ups (as defined in #1) or capitalizing on the real opportunities that shoes will present in countless forms (as defined in #2).   And as far as #1, those cannot be decided by using a cheat sheet or believing there are 4 or 7 or 10 possible paths that will develop after so many hands dealt because of a lacking outcome or, fancy wording posted elsewhere--has to happen by playing the game for such a long time, etc., from each and every shoe (actually not admitted, is the hope and prayer that it will happen).  True and what gives huge amounts of fuel to # one, the sentence prior to this is, that well under 50% of what you defined in those cheat sheets will appear and the other events will eat up every bit of the winnings you experienced far in excess of the wins produced by matching those pre-set and pre-chosen outcomes.   

Simply,the truth being told.  Hard as hell to swallow without adding negativity, drama, chastising, humiliation and twisting and turning the truth of real players having great wins and redundant profits.  The trend of talking down, humiliating, turning the absolute truth around when one is not even present, and making up lies is not all new in most any type of competition, business, marketing and politics.  It is ingrained in most of us, however, some of us use our energy, motivation and wherewithal for other avenues outside of baccarat and gaming, which some do not have.  So maybe I just found the answer I was looking for as to why the hatred and chastising of differing experiences.  Perfect, great.     

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on May 28, 2019, 09:30:39 PM


Now expect some people telling you that such bets have an astoundingly EV negative itlr, or that those long streaks happen very rarely. :-)

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I missed that one line you wrote.  However, those people are so negative and so far introverted and stuck up on their win 5 or 8 units stop and lose 4 or 6 units and call it a day, type of professional career--it is ridiculous! 

I play to win and win lots more than I risked, plain and simple.  I have done pretty well most of my life or I would not be continuing to play. 

By the way, those people that talk their ever loving drama, are either on line trivial players or the types that go to the casino, buy in with $100 red chips, sit there and wait for all the big wagers and then bet against those people.  Or they sit there and play a group of hands to cut, always cut.  It is chop so they play to repeat, Oh it is now repeating so they wager their $10 or $15 or $25 to cut once again.  Always the cut.  They last about 30 min's at the table then the leave.  Or, they fill out their scorecard in the vertical fashion marking up everything and go for their kill.  LOL.  It is all good AsymB.  That is why they are welcomed here and every where to spread their wealth and their extreme knowledge of the game with their super experience, kind of like Fred Smith or Steve Jobs and let us not forget about President and Perfect Bill Clinton, love to hear them all speak in public gatherings!

I have learned so much from their musings! 

Oh yeah AsymB, I learned a long long time ago.  If others are not jealous or overzealous of you, they do not talk, stalk, make things up or chase you around.  FaceBook, Twitter and all the other social media spots proved that.  BTW, I have 103,529 followers on mine!!!!  What about you, how are you doing on social media.  You do spend all day on it right?  Talking about the 6 to 12 vertical columns and all the cash you are removing from the casinos, no?  You do make up and haunt other members and people in general no?  You do twist and turn the truth?  You do post about your all day on line 20 hour grueling play to get back you $80.00 or so, no?  Tell us, AsymB, make for some great reality here!  LOL.

Love you guys, you guys are the highlight of my day, I am so tired of staying home, wearing pajamas and eating Captain Crunch with bananas and Oreo cookies while drinking Bosco.