I just want to know one thing Mark, when you do play baccarat (or did) when you really needed that face card or Pip 10 card to win a larger sized wager, did you scream "MONKEY"
Honestly, tell us. 
Honestly, tell us.
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#1607
Gizmotron / Re: Overcome the Chimp
September 13, 2017, 05:25:54 PM
Forget baccarat Mark. Let's talk about something that actually matters like Almond Joy donuts with a honey creme raspberry drizzle or a Huckleberry with tripe chocolate mint orange creme filling??? Which one is better. I need a couple dozen right now!!!!
#1608
Gizmotron / Re: Overcome the Chimp
September 13, 2017, 04:08:12 PM
Just curious, this is the chimp you are referring to, no?
Bubbles (gambling and card playing chimpanzee)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bubbles Bubbles the chimpanzee.jpg
Bubbles being held in Michael Jackson's arm
Species Common chimpanzee
Sex Male
Born April 30, 1983 (age 34)[1]
Austin, Texas, United States[1]
Notable role Companion animal, occasional actor[1]
Known for One-time companion animal of American recording artist Michael Jackson[1]
Owner Michael Jackson
Centre for Great Apes 2005-present
Weight 160 lb (73 kg)[2] - 170 lb (77 kg)[1]
Bubbles (born April 30, 1983) is a common chimpanzee, known for being the one-time companion animal of American recording artist Michael Jackson, who bought the primate from a Texas research facility in the early 1980s. The animal was a frequent travel companion to the singer, whose attachment to the animal led to media mockery and, among other factors, a public perception of Jackson as eccentric. During the Bad world tour, for example, Jackson brought Bubbles with him to Japan, where they both drank tea with the mayor of Osaka.
Bubbles was initially kept at the Jackson family's home in Encino, Los Angeles, but was moved to Neverland Ranch in 1988. There, he slept in a crib in Jackson's bedroom, used the singer's toilet and ate candy in the Neverland movie theater. By 2003, like many captive chimpanzees, Bubbles had matured into a large and aggressive adult chimp unsuitable as a companion animal. He was sent to a California animal trainer. When the trainer closed his operation in 2004, Bubbles was moved to the Center for Great Apes, a sanctuary in Wauchula, Florida, where he has lived since 2005.
Acquisition
Bubbles was born in early 1983 in an Austin, Texas research facility that bred primates for animal testing.[1][3] There are conflicting reports as to how he came into Jackson's possession. Multiple reports state that Jackson had Bubbles bought for him when the chimpanzee was eight months old. The acquisition was said to have been supervised by Bob Dunn, then one of Hollywood's most famous suppliers and trainers of animals for films, photoshoots and advertisements.[1][4][5]
Life at Neverland Ranch
Bubbles was kept at the Jackson family's Encino home until 1988 when he was moved to Jackson's newly acquired Neverland Ranch.[6] There, Bubbles slept in a crib in the singer's bedroom,[7] ate candy in the Neverland movie theater,[8] was fed at the dining table,[7] wore a diaper, and relieved himself in Jackson's personal toilet.[8][9]
At Jackson's 2005 People v. Jackson trial, jurors learned from a videotaped interview with Jackson that his several chimpanzees would help him with housekeeping chores. "They run around, help me clean the room. They help me dust, clean the window," Jackson stated. At the same trial, Jackson's maids testified that they were not impressed with the behavior of the chimpanzees that the singer had kept over the years. One housekeeper told of how she had to clean up feces hurled at the bedroom wall. Another maid described a chimpanzee called Max tearing off his diaper before crawling into Jackson's bed.[9]
Media mockery
The public perception of what Michael is as a human being has been highly exaggerated. Those articles are hard for me to relate to. For instance, Bubbles is more fun than a lot of people I know. I saw Bubbles at a wedding in a tux. He has great table manners.
Quincy Jones.[10]
Jackson's attachment to Bubbles drew media mockery. For instance, the media reported that the chimpanzee would be the ringbearer at Elizabeth Taylor's October 6, 1991 Neverland Ranch wedding. The report was not true, but was, according to The New York Times, "an idea that some newspapers found too delightful not to report."[11] Bubbles' companionship was a source of comfort to Jackson and formed, writes journalist Steve Huey, a public perception of Jackson as a "bizarre eccentric, obsessed with recapturing his childhood."[12][13][14] "This is when the weirdness began to reach mythic proportions," wrote Robert Thompson, a professor of popular culture at Syracuse University.[15]
Jackson and Bubbles' bond, as well as Jackson's other alleged eccentricities, contributed to the media epithet "Wacko Jacko," a nickname Jackson came to despise.[13] The media often focused on Bubbles, rather than on Jackson's music, and published many false stories regarding the animal, such as the allegation that Bubbles was not a single ape, but one of several.[16][17] A later claim suggested that Bubbles had died; Jackson's press agent Lee Solters quipped to the media that "when Bubbles heard about his demise he went bananas ... Like Mark Twain, his death is grossly exaggerated and he's alive and doing well."[18][19] Another story, reported in The National Enquirer, claimed that Prince, Jackson's longtime rival, had used extrasensory perception to turn Bubbles crazy. "What kind of sicko would mess with a monkey?" Jackson was reported to have asked. "This is the final straw. Poor, poor Bubbles." Jackson found the story hilarious, and his staff reported that they had never seen the singer laugh so much.[20]
Late 1980s
A headshot of a man wearing a blue baseball cap and red shirt. He has long black hair and is smiling towards the camera.
Michael Jackson had Bubbles accompany him throughout the late 1980s.
The late 1980s were a busy period for Bubbles. Jackson took him on outings and would often talk to him. According to reports, he later showed him how to moonwalk.[21] Bubbles had an agent and was rumoured to have his own bodyguard.[7][22] He sat in for the recording of the Bad album— Jackson insisted that Bubbles and Jackson's pet snake attend as spectators—and accompanied Jackson for the filming of the "Bad" music video.[7][23][24] In the short film for "Liberian Girl", Bubbles made a cameo appearance.[25] When the Bad world tour began in September, 1987, he and Jackson shared a two-bedroom hotel suite in Tokyo.[7] During the tour, Bubbles and Jackson made a social visit to the Mayor of Osaka, Yasushi Oshima; there, Bubbles drank Japanese green tea while seated quietly next to Jackson. Oshima commented that he and his fellow officials were "surprised to see the chimpanzee, but we understand he is [Michael's] good friend ... This is the first time an animal ever entered City Hall."[26][27] Though allowed to travel to Japan, Bubbles was unable to enter Britain and Sweden due to strict quarantine laws.[28][29] Jackson also brought Bubbles for tea at Elizabeth Taylor's house. Taylor did not mind the fact that Jackson had brought a chimpanzee.[30] Later, at a party to celebrate and promote Bad, Bubbles reportedly "worked the room" and was "the life of the party".[7]
Around this time, Bubbles and Jackson were photographed by Kenny Rogers for his book, Your Friends and Mine. The photo shows Bubbles held on Jackson's hip, and has been cited as one of the best taken of Jackson.[by whom?] In the black and white photograph, Bubbles is dressed casually in a long sleeved shirt and overalls. Jackson is also dressed casually; he wears jeans and a simple shirt.[31] Rogers said: "Bubbles was so human it was almost frightening. He would take Christopher [Rogers' son] by the hand, walk over to the refrigerator, open it, take out a banana and hand it to him. Christopher was amazed... we all were."[31]
Relocations
An aerial shot of a large ranch. Trees surround several huts and buildings on the barren property.
Neverland Ranch served as the home of Bubbles, until he became too aggressive to live with the Jackson family.
In a 2003 documentary, Living with Michael Jackson, the singer revealed to journalist Martin Bashir that Bubbles had become overly pugnacious.[32] He was removed to an animal sanctuary over fears he might attack Jackson's newborn son, Prince Michael II.[nb 1][34] Jackson subsequently bought two more baby chimpanzees, Max and Action Jackson; the public believed these two chimpanzees were also Bubbles.[1] Bubbles' removal was a source of regret for the musician, who stated that the animals could live for up to 60 years. During the interview, Bashir was also told of how Jackson had planned to hold a "celebrity animal party" for Bubbles. Cheeta, the chimpanzee from Tarzan, Benji and Lassie were to be invited.[35] Bubbles was relocated to Bob Dunn's ranch in Sylmar, California.[4][36] "Bubbles is an adult chimp and a wild animal," Dunn stated at the time. "We don't let him out to play."[36] According to CNN, the chimpanzee would be visited by Jackson and his children, who also played with the other animals while at the Californian ranch.[36] "He still acts like a kid around them", Dunn added, referring to the musician.[36] The Washington Times, however, claimed Bubbles was not visited by Jackson, despite the singer's representative stating beforehand that the entertainer would like to meet with the animal again.[37] Shortly afterward, in December 2003, it was claimed that Bubbles had attempted suicide.[nb 2][42][43] The chimpanzee was supposedly taken to a hospital in time to be saved.[43]
Since the closure of Dunn's facility in 2004, Bubbles has been kept at the Center for Great Apes in Wauchula, Florida, where he is said to enjoy painting and listening to flute music.[4] The center for apes, where the annual care for each animal costs around $17,000 as of 2009, also houses 41 other chimpanzees and orangutans.[2][4] Patti Ragan, director for the Center for Great Apes, commented on the animals' daily routine at the sanctuary. "They relax. They take naps together. They might go up in the top of the cupola. They go out in the chutes and lie under a tree in the tunnel system. They groom each other and they fight and they have arguments, too."[4] According to animal keepers at the center, the 160 pound (73 kg) Bubbles—whose facial features have changed since his time with Jackson—is now "huge and ugly" but has a "sweet character".[2][3] The ape now spends most of his time sitting quietly in trees with his best friend Sam, a 40-year-old chimpanzee.[2]
Death of Michael Jackson
On June 25, 2009, Jackson died at the age of 50, after suffering a cardiac arrest.[44] News organizations reported that Bubbles was not brought to the singer's memorial service, but instead stayed at the Center for Great Apes.[2] It has not been revealed whether Jackson left money to support Bubbles, whose care, to date, has been paid for from public donations.[3] Animal trainer Dunn, speaking to the News of the World, stated that the chimpanzee would miss Jackson.[42] "Bubbles definitely missed him when they parted and will miss him now. Chimpanzees are intelligent. They remember people and stuff. Bubbles and Michael were close friends and playmates. The last time Michael visited, Bubbles definitely recognized and remembered him."[nb 3][42] He revealed that Bubbles was thought of by the singer as his first child, and added that he hoped Jackson's children would keep in touch with their "stepbrother" following their father's death.[42] In 2010, La Toya visited Bubbles at the Center for Great Apes in Florida.[46]
Legacy
Jackson launched Michael's Pets, a range of soft toys based upon the animals the singer owned, in November 1986. The toys consisted of a frog, dog, rabbit, snake, ostrich, giraffe, llama and Bubbles the chimp. Jackson also appeared, as a bear wearing sunglasses and a fedora.[47] "He [Jackson] was very instrumental in designing the toys", said Bob Michaelson, who was responsible for developing them.[47] "He was very instrumental in how it should be programmed... he's got tremendous intuition."[47] Jackson, in approving the toys, stipulated that the manufacturers donate $1 per sale to a children's charity.[48]
Porcelain sculpture by Jeff Koons
In 1988, Jeff Koons made the three identical porcelain sculptures Michael Jackson and Bubbles as part of his Banality exhibit.[49] At the time, each sculpture was said to be worth $250,000.[50] Koons once said of the pop star, "If I could be one other living person, it would probably be Michael Jackson."[49] The art piece became one of Koons' best known works.[51] The figure shows Jackson and the chimpanzee wearing gold military-style suits.[49] In 2001, one of the figures was put up for auction and was expected to fetch between $3 million and $4 million.[52] The figure sold to an anonymous telephone bidder for $5.6 million.[49][53] The sale was a record for a work by Koons.[54] Two of the sculptures are housed at The Broad Contemporary Art Museum in downtown Los Angeles and the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art.
The Daily Telegraph reported in August 2009 that Bubbles was to publish a "tell-all memoir" about his time with Michael Jackson. The book—entitled Bubbles: My Secret Diary, From Swaziland to Neverland—is a spoof diary by journalist John Blake.[55] The book fictionally documents the "darker aspects" of Bubbles' life, including a "$2,000-a-day banana addiction, depression, romantic conquests, and [his] 'vicious rivalry' with Tarzan star Cheeta".[55] The "collection of very personal and honest entries from [Bubbles'] diary" fictitiously revealed how the chimpanzee coped with the death of Jackson. The publication was released in October 2009.[55] Speaking of Bubbles, Blake stated:
Behind his seemingly-perfect life of glamorous friends, gold-plated tyre swings, and personal chefs, there is a dark history of medical experiments, addiction and loss. But Bubbles has fought against his personal and professional problems and, with his help of man-pet Michael Jackson, he has grown to become bigger than King Kong—figuratively speaking.[55]
Bubbles (gambling and card playing chimpanzee)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bubbles Bubbles the chimpanzee.jpg
Bubbles being held in Michael Jackson's arm
Species Common chimpanzee
Sex Male
Born April 30, 1983 (age 34)[1]
Austin, Texas, United States[1]
Notable role Companion animal, occasional actor[1]
Known for One-time companion animal of American recording artist Michael Jackson[1]
Owner Michael Jackson
Centre for Great Apes 2005-present
Weight 160 lb (73 kg)[2] - 170 lb (77 kg)[1]
Bubbles (born April 30, 1983) is a common chimpanzee, known for being the one-time companion animal of American recording artist Michael Jackson, who bought the primate from a Texas research facility in the early 1980s. The animal was a frequent travel companion to the singer, whose attachment to the animal led to media mockery and, among other factors, a public perception of Jackson as eccentric. During the Bad world tour, for example, Jackson brought Bubbles with him to Japan, where they both drank tea with the mayor of Osaka.
Bubbles was initially kept at the Jackson family's home in Encino, Los Angeles, but was moved to Neverland Ranch in 1988. There, he slept in a crib in Jackson's bedroom, used the singer's toilet and ate candy in the Neverland movie theater. By 2003, like many captive chimpanzees, Bubbles had matured into a large and aggressive adult chimp unsuitable as a companion animal. He was sent to a California animal trainer. When the trainer closed his operation in 2004, Bubbles was moved to the Center for Great Apes, a sanctuary in Wauchula, Florida, where he has lived since 2005.
Acquisition
Bubbles was born in early 1983 in an Austin, Texas research facility that bred primates for animal testing.[1][3] There are conflicting reports as to how he came into Jackson's possession. Multiple reports state that Jackson had Bubbles bought for him when the chimpanzee was eight months old. The acquisition was said to have been supervised by Bob Dunn, then one of Hollywood's most famous suppliers and trainers of animals for films, photoshoots and advertisements.[1][4][5]
Life at Neverland Ranch
Bubbles was kept at the Jackson family's Encino home until 1988 when he was moved to Jackson's newly acquired Neverland Ranch.[6] There, Bubbles slept in a crib in the singer's bedroom,[7] ate candy in the Neverland movie theater,[8] was fed at the dining table,[7] wore a diaper, and relieved himself in Jackson's personal toilet.[8][9]
At Jackson's 2005 People v. Jackson trial, jurors learned from a videotaped interview with Jackson that his several chimpanzees would help him with housekeeping chores. "They run around, help me clean the room. They help me dust, clean the window," Jackson stated. At the same trial, Jackson's maids testified that they were not impressed with the behavior of the chimpanzees that the singer had kept over the years. One housekeeper told of how she had to clean up feces hurled at the bedroom wall. Another maid described a chimpanzee called Max tearing off his diaper before crawling into Jackson's bed.[9]
Media mockery
The public perception of what Michael is as a human being has been highly exaggerated. Those articles are hard for me to relate to. For instance, Bubbles is more fun than a lot of people I know. I saw Bubbles at a wedding in a tux. He has great table manners.
Quincy Jones.[10]
Jackson's attachment to Bubbles drew media mockery. For instance, the media reported that the chimpanzee would be the ringbearer at Elizabeth Taylor's October 6, 1991 Neverland Ranch wedding. The report was not true, but was, according to The New York Times, "an idea that some newspapers found too delightful not to report."[11] Bubbles' companionship was a source of comfort to Jackson and formed, writes journalist Steve Huey, a public perception of Jackson as a "bizarre eccentric, obsessed with recapturing his childhood."[12][13][14] "This is when the weirdness began to reach mythic proportions," wrote Robert Thompson, a professor of popular culture at Syracuse University.[15]
Jackson and Bubbles' bond, as well as Jackson's other alleged eccentricities, contributed to the media epithet "Wacko Jacko," a nickname Jackson came to despise.[13] The media often focused on Bubbles, rather than on Jackson's music, and published many false stories regarding the animal, such as the allegation that Bubbles was not a single ape, but one of several.[16][17] A later claim suggested that Bubbles had died; Jackson's press agent Lee Solters quipped to the media that "when Bubbles heard about his demise he went bananas ... Like Mark Twain, his death is grossly exaggerated and he's alive and doing well."[18][19] Another story, reported in The National Enquirer, claimed that Prince, Jackson's longtime rival, had used extrasensory perception to turn Bubbles crazy. "What kind of sicko would mess with a monkey?" Jackson was reported to have asked. "This is the final straw. Poor, poor Bubbles." Jackson found the story hilarious, and his staff reported that they had never seen the singer laugh so much.[20]
Late 1980s
A headshot of a man wearing a blue baseball cap and red shirt. He has long black hair and is smiling towards the camera.
Michael Jackson had Bubbles accompany him throughout the late 1980s.
The late 1980s were a busy period for Bubbles. Jackson took him on outings and would often talk to him. According to reports, he later showed him how to moonwalk.[21] Bubbles had an agent and was rumoured to have his own bodyguard.[7][22] He sat in for the recording of the Bad album— Jackson insisted that Bubbles and Jackson's pet snake attend as spectators—and accompanied Jackson for the filming of the "Bad" music video.[7][23][24] In the short film for "Liberian Girl", Bubbles made a cameo appearance.[25] When the Bad world tour began in September, 1987, he and Jackson shared a two-bedroom hotel suite in Tokyo.[7] During the tour, Bubbles and Jackson made a social visit to the Mayor of Osaka, Yasushi Oshima; there, Bubbles drank Japanese green tea while seated quietly next to Jackson. Oshima commented that he and his fellow officials were "surprised to see the chimpanzee, but we understand he is [Michael's] good friend ... This is the first time an animal ever entered City Hall."[26][27] Though allowed to travel to Japan, Bubbles was unable to enter Britain and Sweden due to strict quarantine laws.[28][29] Jackson also brought Bubbles for tea at Elizabeth Taylor's house. Taylor did not mind the fact that Jackson had brought a chimpanzee.[30] Later, at a party to celebrate and promote Bad, Bubbles reportedly "worked the room" and was "the life of the party".[7]
Around this time, Bubbles and Jackson were photographed by Kenny Rogers for his book, Your Friends and Mine. The photo shows Bubbles held on Jackson's hip, and has been cited as one of the best taken of Jackson.[by whom?] In the black and white photograph, Bubbles is dressed casually in a long sleeved shirt and overalls. Jackson is also dressed casually; he wears jeans and a simple shirt.[31] Rogers said: "Bubbles was so human it was almost frightening. He would take Christopher [Rogers' son] by the hand, walk over to the refrigerator, open it, take out a banana and hand it to him. Christopher was amazed... we all were."[31]
Relocations
An aerial shot of a large ranch. Trees surround several huts and buildings on the barren property.
Neverland Ranch served as the home of Bubbles, until he became too aggressive to live with the Jackson family.
In a 2003 documentary, Living with Michael Jackson, the singer revealed to journalist Martin Bashir that Bubbles had become overly pugnacious.[32] He was removed to an animal sanctuary over fears he might attack Jackson's newborn son, Prince Michael II.[nb 1][34] Jackson subsequently bought two more baby chimpanzees, Max and Action Jackson; the public believed these two chimpanzees were also Bubbles.[1] Bubbles' removal was a source of regret for the musician, who stated that the animals could live for up to 60 years. During the interview, Bashir was also told of how Jackson had planned to hold a "celebrity animal party" for Bubbles. Cheeta, the chimpanzee from Tarzan, Benji and Lassie were to be invited.[35] Bubbles was relocated to Bob Dunn's ranch in Sylmar, California.[4][36] "Bubbles is an adult chimp and a wild animal," Dunn stated at the time. "We don't let him out to play."[36] According to CNN, the chimpanzee would be visited by Jackson and his children, who also played with the other animals while at the Californian ranch.[36] "He still acts like a kid around them", Dunn added, referring to the musician.[36] The Washington Times, however, claimed Bubbles was not visited by Jackson, despite the singer's representative stating beforehand that the entertainer would like to meet with the animal again.[37] Shortly afterward, in December 2003, it was claimed that Bubbles had attempted suicide.[nb 2][42][43] The chimpanzee was supposedly taken to a hospital in time to be saved.[43]
Since the closure of Dunn's facility in 2004, Bubbles has been kept at the Center for Great Apes in Wauchula, Florida, where he is said to enjoy painting and listening to flute music.[4] The center for apes, where the annual care for each animal costs around $17,000 as of 2009, also houses 41 other chimpanzees and orangutans.[2][4] Patti Ragan, director for the Center for Great Apes, commented on the animals' daily routine at the sanctuary. "They relax. They take naps together. They might go up in the top of the cupola. They go out in the chutes and lie under a tree in the tunnel system. They groom each other and they fight and they have arguments, too."[4] According to animal keepers at the center, the 160 pound (73 kg) Bubbles—whose facial features have changed since his time with Jackson—is now "huge and ugly" but has a "sweet character".[2][3] The ape now spends most of his time sitting quietly in trees with his best friend Sam, a 40-year-old chimpanzee.[2]
Death of Michael Jackson
On June 25, 2009, Jackson died at the age of 50, after suffering a cardiac arrest.[44] News organizations reported that Bubbles was not brought to the singer's memorial service, but instead stayed at the Center for Great Apes.[2] It has not been revealed whether Jackson left money to support Bubbles, whose care, to date, has been paid for from public donations.[3] Animal trainer Dunn, speaking to the News of the World, stated that the chimpanzee would miss Jackson.[42] "Bubbles definitely missed him when they parted and will miss him now. Chimpanzees are intelligent. They remember people and stuff. Bubbles and Michael were close friends and playmates. The last time Michael visited, Bubbles definitely recognized and remembered him."[nb 3][42] He revealed that Bubbles was thought of by the singer as his first child, and added that he hoped Jackson's children would keep in touch with their "stepbrother" following their father's death.[42] In 2010, La Toya visited Bubbles at the Center for Great Apes in Florida.[46]
Legacy
Jackson launched Michael's Pets, a range of soft toys based upon the animals the singer owned, in November 1986. The toys consisted of a frog, dog, rabbit, snake, ostrich, giraffe, llama and Bubbles the chimp. Jackson also appeared, as a bear wearing sunglasses and a fedora.[47] "He [Jackson] was very instrumental in designing the toys", said Bob Michaelson, who was responsible for developing them.[47] "He was very instrumental in how it should be programmed... he's got tremendous intuition."[47] Jackson, in approving the toys, stipulated that the manufacturers donate $1 per sale to a children's charity.[48]
Porcelain sculpture by Jeff Koons
In 1988, Jeff Koons made the three identical porcelain sculptures Michael Jackson and Bubbles as part of his Banality exhibit.[49] At the time, each sculpture was said to be worth $250,000.[50] Koons once said of the pop star, "If I could be one other living person, it would probably be Michael Jackson."[49] The art piece became one of Koons' best known works.[51] The figure shows Jackson and the chimpanzee wearing gold military-style suits.[49] In 2001, one of the figures was put up for auction and was expected to fetch between $3 million and $4 million.[52] The figure sold to an anonymous telephone bidder for $5.6 million.[49][53] The sale was a record for a work by Koons.[54] Two of the sculptures are housed at The Broad Contemporary Art Museum in downtown Los Angeles and the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art.
The Daily Telegraph reported in August 2009 that Bubbles was to publish a "tell-all memoir" about his time with Michael Jackson. The book—entitled Bubbles: My Secret Diary, From Swaziland to Neverland—is a spoof diary by journalist John Blake.[55] The book fictionally documents the "darker aspects" of Bubbles' life, including a "$2,000-a-day banana addiction, depression, romantic conquests, and [his] 'vicious rivalry' with Tarzan star Cheeta".[55] The "collection of very personal and honest entries from [Bubbles'] diary" fictitiously revealed how the chimpanzee coped with the death of Jackson. The publication was released in October 2009.[55] Speaking of Bubbles, Blake stated:
Behind his seemingly-perfect life of glamorous friends, gold-plated tyre swings, and personal chefs, there is a dark history of medical experiments, addiction and loss. But Bubbles has fought against his personal and professional problems and, with his help of man-pet Michael Jackson, he has grown to become bigger than King Kong—figuratively speaking.[55]
#1609
General Discussion / Re: So does Stephen Tabone's System work then?
September 09, 2017, 02:55:22 PM
Honesty, truthfulness and exploit what we know and lived through. That is fair. Thanks.
#1610
General Discussion / Re: So does Stephen Tabone's System work then?
September 08, 2017, 12:21:52 PMQuote from: WildMoney on September 08, 2017, 08:46:18 AM
Is that the 'golden secret' by tabone cos I bought the silver bullet proof baccarat winning strategy in paperback and I'm winning using it.
Took it to casino and was reading part of it on the table, pit boss told me to put it away, went back with system in my head and continue to win. Since I bought 2.1 I'm up 90units.
OMG Seriously Stephen. Tell a better story than that to get a few more quick book sales. I am forwarding all of this to amazon sale rep I already to spoke and they are quite interested in how you are using their name on this website in your spam and scams.
#1611
General Discussion / Re: 20 years 50/50 baccarat research resulted in 2 books in top #7
September 08, 2017, 12:14:49 PMQuote from: WildMoney on September 08, 2017, 08:36:17 AM
I bought the 2.1 book silver bullet proof baccarat winning strategy and I am waiting for stsephen's baccarat tie book coming out this month.
Total insanity, scam, fallacies and the author has zero class and invades any and all message boards with spam and his commercial sales that no real gambler will follow, after its been tried of course.
#1612
Jaguar's Advantage / Re: Baccarat Player's Advantage
September 08, 2017, 12:07:01 PMQuote from: ekeoma.prince on September 08, 2017, 09:32:01 AM
I read your system and it's a very complicated and does not beat the odds. I read Tabone's book and Kuzer's book too. Tabone's book on amazon the silver bullet proof baccarat winning strategy, seems to be the beat system out there that win. Kuzer's system is weak. Wizard book does not have a working system and he just goes with a banker betting flow that does not work.
Do you have any straightforward system/s, easy to follow?
One millions percent:
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#1613
Jaguar's Advantage / Re: Baccarat Player's Advantage
September 04, 2017, 04:04:34 PMQuote from: Jaguar88 on September 04, 2017, 12:55:04 PM
Been tied up, but with a good amount at the tables throwing plays down range as hard as ever. Do you have a link on the piece about the player you mention? Thanks!
These are people I play with regularly at the local casinos, not Vegas/AC and some of the larger properties in Southern California. But as an overall view-observance over the past 7 years or so--these are very very common 'average' players with little or lots of funding, the game has changed in the years around 2004/5 to 2008 if you ask me.
http://betselection.cc/alrelax's-blog/mentality-more-than-anything-else!/
Also, this is related as well:
http://betselection.cc/alrelax's-blog/figuring-it-all-outtrying-to-make-it-less-complicated/
Side note: I stopped by the one casino I played at Thursday and Friday nights as I wrote about also, did very well on Fortune 7's with $40-$50 out there a few times and caught the winning F-7's. Anyway, last night, I was passing by and stopped in. Bought in with an extremely low amount of money just to fiddle around with a very close buddy that i have not seen for a couple of months. He was on something and had the feeling. Pointed out to me what it was, had to due with winning hand point values, combined with the trend, and a couple of other things. I am not one to bet a mechanical bet placement, and he does quite a bit. But I saw what he did also and 'Amy' and another player that will constantly wager negative progression was well into it. Out of at least 20 wagers we got 15 of them correct. Every time, no--no way and I would never do it. But it was there and when it is there---you HAVE TO TAKE it and not wager against it. That is where the huge PSYCH factor comes into play I have wrote about extensively. I turned a very small amount of money into about $2k in those hands, of course I should have been wagering $300 to $500 or even $700-$800. But i was not in the mind frame to play, I know my buddy wagers almost similar to what he was preaching to me, but it was there and when it is there that is EZ-pickings. 'Amy' and the other players lost huge money, at least $25k wagering strictly pink chips in the 20 or so hands. They hit a couple and started a come-back, but it was so obvious we were both wagering low on the side that we thought and out of sheer respect because we do get along for the other ones, we never made eye contact with them or their wagers before the cards came out. 'Amy' and the other guy got wiped out and the rest of the table did okay. If the whole table was together, the camaraderie and the wins would have been huge, but people are far too stubborn and believe too much in their attempt to change the shoe presentments!!!! And, almost all of their losses were over their instance to play the 'cut' when it was obviously strong and then when it was weak (chop-chop) they insisted on the repeats that never came. The other things we were following were point value winnings and losings, which I rather not get into here because it only causes some members to blast back about superstitions, etc.
Sad but true.
#1614
Off-topic / Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
August 29, 2017, 03:28:53 PMQuote from: ADulay on August 27, 2017, 06:06:57 PM
I still want to know what an "uncivilized bachelor daddy" is.
AD
To me and only IMO, those can be found around Sunrise Blvd. and the 441 entire area of Fort Lauderdale. Also, anywhere within the 'pork and beans' AKA Liberty City area of Miami, and extensively around the area of Hallendale Beach Blvd., and State Road 7 area in southern Broward County also, for instance. Some of the quick identifying traits of those would be, jeans with a belt on that is riding well below their rear-ends as well as multiple colored sneakers usually costing around $300.00 or so. Oh yeah, the highest majority of them are unemployed as far as a conventional job where they have weekly salaried paycheck and pay taxes, etc.
#1615
Sports Betting Forum / Re: Risk free way to shoot for 2k by predicting EuroBasket
August 28, 2017, 01:31:06 PM
IDK, maybe I just don't have the mindset and the age of internet scammers, link posters, sales trolls and all related, etc.
However, if i got into that business, I would definitely post a little bit first, such as --Hi all, how is everyone--I am Mr., Everyday Link Poster, and i am going to be posting so and so, etc. At least a few posts to appear real before the links rather than the very first one??
However, if i got into that business, I would definitely post a little bit first, such as --Hi all, how is everyone--I am Mr., Everyday Link Poster, and i am going to be posting so and so, etc. At least a few posts to appear real before the links rather than the very first one?
? #1616
Jaguar's Advantage / Re: Baccarat Player's Advantage
August 24, 2017, 12:23:38 PM
The statistic experts and math wiz's certainly don't play (for real) only in their play minds on this board. Correct. Stats and math generally mean nothing and when it does--it is just a 'fleeting' coincidence. Bottom line is, it makes everything else just as often in real life as it does a stat or a math 'has to', etc.
Players get 'sucked in' more so then anything else. I wrote about it and Jaguar wrote some about it.
The silliest thing and as well, the most insane thing about this game is, it is really NOT THAT HARD, once you understand everything but (BUT-NOT) statistics and the math, which mean nothing like I said.
I am going to write a piece about this player, 'Amy' the other night, fits right perfectly here, 100%. I will write it in my Blog where I post moist everything. Thanks.
Players get 'sucked in' more so then anything else. I wrote about it and Jaguar wrote some about it.
The silliest thing and as well, the most insane thing about this game is, it is really NOT THAT HARD, once you understand everything but (BUT-NOT) statistics and the math, which mean nothing like I said.
I am going to write a piece about this player, 'Amy' the other night, fits right perfectly here, 100%. I will write it in my Blog where I post moist everything. Thanks.
#1617
Jaguar's Advantage / Re: Baccarat Player's Advantage
August 23, 2017, 02:24:52 PM
"We don't know which is worse. The statistical and mathematical psycho babble that rages on non-stop from people that clearly don't play baccarat at all, but will tell you all about house edge and 'In the long run', or the posers that rip on anyone who presents insight into the game. WHO DO YOU THINK IS USING INSIGHT INTO THE GAME THEY WRITE?"= 
(Careful Jaguar--makes too much sense!)
I have wrote extensively on frame-of-mind, psych, players, dealers, the game, the mind, effects on players that hurt players, etc.., etc. etc. This game of baccarat has nothing to do with what so many think, 'find a magical path to follow and clean house on the casino' such as so many systems sellers and people attempt to con people into thinking, in order to sell their magical system, etc.'
What Jaguar is saying, hard work, more to it, etc., is absolutely 1,000,000% correct and spot on. I have sat down and lost $25k, $50k and, as well as $3k. I have sat down and won, $10k, $30k, $90k, $150k, etc. It is 100% possible. Not every time, no possible physical way whatsoever. However, if you really get into your frame-of-mind, the game, the reasoning's, the variation, the happenings, the players, the people, the casino's offerings, the possibilities, your psych, etc., etc., etc., you will be sitting a great seat to be able to clean-house on the casino when the opportunity is presenting itself, IF YOU HAVE IT ALL FIGURED OUT, and it has nothing at all to do with following a magical newly discovered $49.99 or a $1,500.00 set wagering pattern sold to you.
As Jaguar said, it is hard work, trial and error, knowing whom to get your info from, knowing what you can and cannot do, knowing what systems are and how they work and when they work, knowing your thoughts, reactions, reserves and all that. Knowing what to do with the win money and everything that is going to happen with win money if you use it solely for aggressive progressions to smack the casino, etc. It is not easy, but once you figure it out, it really is 'almost' easy.
(Careful Jaguar--makes too much sense!)I have wrote extensively on frame-of-mind, psych, players, dealers, the game, the mind, effects on players that hurt players, etc.., etc. etc. This game of baccarat has nothing to do with what so many think, 'find a magical path to follow and clean house on the casino' such as so many systems sellers and people attempt to con people into thinking, in order to sell their magical system, etc.'
What Jaguar is saying, hard work, more to it, etc., is absolutely 1,000,000% correct and spot on. I have sat down and lost $25k, $50k and, as well as $3k. I have sat down and won, $10k, $30k, $90k, $150k, etc. It is 100% possible. Not every time, no possible physical way whatsoever. However, if you really get into your frame-of-mind, the game, the reasoning's, the variation, the happenings, the players, the people, the casino's offerings, the possibilities, your psych, etc., etc., etc., you will be sitting a great seat to be able to clean-house on the casino when the opportunity is presenting itself, IF YOU HAVE IT ALL FIGURED OUT, and it has nothing at all to do with following a magical newly discovered $49.99 or a $1,500.00 set wagering pattern sold to you.
As Jaguar said, it is hard work, trial and error, knowing whom to get your info from, knowing what you can and cannot do, knowing what systems are and how they work and when they work, knowing your thoughts, reactions, reserves and all that. Knowing what to do with the win money and everything that is going to happen with win money if you use it solely for aggressive progressions to smack the casino, etc. It is not easy, but once you figure it out, it really is 'almost' easy.
#1618
General Discussion / Exclusive: Fake online stores reveal gamblers' shadow banking system
August 22, 2017, 09:42:12 PM #1619
Alrelax's Blog / Re: YOU FOUND 'THE BLOG'
August 17, 2017, 01:04:41 PM
Well I don't know! At times it is so easy and yet--at times it is so tough! Last weekend playing. The normal people, the normal crowd at the baccarat table. There was a couple of great shoes---frigging great--seriously, like the high 40's of one side and the low 20's of the opposite side. Problem was, everyone was against each other. Zero camaraderie with verbal explanation of almost every single hand, why the shoe was going to do 'such and such' or do 'so and so'. Also, verbally each person telling the others why they were wagering stupidly and hurting the table. Nothing but resentment. The 2 shoes were easy $50k to $100k shoes for anyone that wagers decent on them.
The shoe presentments were repeating themselves, whatever they were producing and to me those are the best ones! Long series of chop-chop's, series of double/pairs/ 7 to 12 streak bankers and players a couple times in each shoe, etc., etc., etc. Like I said, great shoes to follow, positive progression, win several and cut down and do it again and again throughout the shoe. But no, the people have to fight, pull rank and play against each other. Repeatedly wining several hands, throwing $400.00 out there, they win, high five and stack it up to $800.00. They win again and pull down $1,600 or $1,800.00 of it. Great, I thought they are actually getting the hang of this. Then they go to fighting. One places on the players and the other places on the banker and verbally tells him that he is wagering against him because he is wrong. And this is on a shoe where it is strong, super strong. Damn! You know years ago, we lived for these shoes and we all played together, every single person at the table. We was us clearly against the casino, nothing else. I will tell you when there was strong shoes, we all won at least 28 out of ever 30 strong shoes. Now it is like completely the opposite. Seriously! WTF??
More often than not, this is really what happens. Sometimes, very clear and at other times, still there but not so clear. The other problem I have learned over the years with most players, is their total lack of planning, direction, adherence to too many fallacies and fairy tales and their 'self-inflicted' collusion in the endless loop they are involved in. They need to back up, look and realize what they are doing. Coming into the casino with their hard earned money or their borrowed money, either one--play--usually win for a while and then their head blows up and they go for it, hard and fast. And then that endless-loop comes out, they go bust and they buy in a few more times and the same things happen. No plan and no direction. This is really the upper 90 percentile of every time they come in to gamble at baccarat.
The problem almost all players have, is their ability to recognize the shoe-presentments, as well as merging and interfacing their wagering with what MIGHT or MIGHT NOT happen in the shoe. Within the instant shoe and within the section they are currently in. As I have literally laid out in a series of 10 articles within the highlighted section of my Blog, merely believing in a system or a wagering protocol/triggers (we all of them) of two or three variations will not allow you to profit at this game. All that does, and it normally will take you years to figure out, is you win and you give it all back and then some trying to those triggers again and again. Simple, but yet so complicated for most all players.
As I have said, the game is considerably more than knowing what will win a few times-sometimes. Because there is 'something' always winning and losing, every single hand. I see stacks and stacks of chips--but the value of them is nothing to most players because they are not cashed out and kept as cash funds. They are merely regarded as 'possibilities' for larger wins and the straightening out of all their problems, in the casino and outside the casino. There is no other reason, none whatsoever.
The shoe presentments were repeating themselves, whatever they were producing and to me those are the best ones! Long series of chop-chop's, series of double/pairs/ 7 to 12 streak bankers and players a couple times in each shoe, etc., etc., etc. Like I said, great shoes to follow, positive progression, win several and cut down and do it again and again throughout the shoe. But no, the people have to fight, pull rank and play against each other. Repeatedly wining several hands, throwing $400.00 out there, they win, high five and stack it up to $800.00. They win again and pull down $1,600 or $1,800.00 of it. Great, I thought they are actually getting the hang of this. Then they go to fighting. One places on the players and the other places on the banker and verbally tells him that he is wagering against him because he is wrong. And this is on a shoe where it is strong, super strong. Damn! You know years ago, we lived for these shoes and we all played together, every single person at the table. We was us clearly against the casino, nothing else. I will tell you when there was strong shoes, we all won at least 28 out of ever 30 strong shoes. Now it is like completely the opposite. Seriously! WTF??
More often than not, this is really what happens. Sometimes, very clear and at other times, still there but not so clear. The other problem I have learned over the years with most players, is their total lack of planning, direction, adherence to too many fallacies and fairy tales and their 'self-inflicted' collusion in the endless loop they are involved in. They need to back up, look and realize what they are doing. Coming into the casino with their hard earned money or their borrowed money, either one--play--usually win for a while and then their head blows up and they go for it, hard and fast. And then that endless-loop comes out, they go bust and they buy in a few more times and the same things happen. No plan and no direction. This is really the upper 90 percentile of every time they come in to gamble at baccarat.
The problem almost all players have, is their ability to recognize the shoe-presentments, as well as merging and interfacing their wagering with what MIGHT or MIGHT NOT happen in the shoe. Within the instant shoe and within the section they are currently in. As I have literally laid out in a series of 10 articles within the highlighted section of my Blog, merely believing in a system or a wagering protocol/triggers (we all of them) of two or three variations will not allow you to profit at this game. All that does, and it normally will take you years to figure out, is you win and you give it all back and then some trying to those triggers again and again. Simple, but yet so complicated for most all players.
As I have said, the game is considerably more than knowing what will win a few times-sometimes. Because there is 'something' always winning and losing, every single hand. I see stacks and stacks of chips--but the value of them is nothing to most players because they are not cashed out and kept as cash funds. They are merely regarded as 'possibilities' for larger wins and the straightening out of all their problems, in the casino and outside the casino. There is no other reason, none whatsoever.
#1620
General Discussion / Re: JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW 2
August 17, 2017, 12:27:16 PM
You know Atlantis I like analogies, so i will give one here.
I have a great deal of exposure to large metropolitan cities of the USA, NYC/NJ, South Florida (Miami), Los Angeles, Chicago, etc. Although in recent years, especially currently--there probably never been a time where police and law enforcement actions have come under scrutiny! But my point here is the bums, homeless and less fortunate people that are reduced to live in public places, whether alley ways, parks, near rivers and streams, etc., etc. No matter their background, the reason for their misfortune or their current mental and medical conditions--it is a fact of life in any larger metro area. How they are treated is solely their own doing 99.99 to 100% of the time. There are quite ones that truly mind their own business and do what they have to do and are completely respectful, courteous and mindful of any other person they happen to come into contact with. Then there are the aggressors, the trouble makers and the "it's not my fault i lost everything and i got hooked on drugs and my family left me and i lost my home' type of people that cause extreme problems, threaten, destroy, steal and generally are a blight on wherever they are at.
Each type of those less fortunate persons causes their own path of resistance when a police officer rolls up on them for whatever reason.
Have you ever seen Dirty Harry pick out a nice tourist say from the United Kingdom with a camera hanging around his neck and a city map in his hand deciding whether to go into the museum or shopping mall he is standing in front of with a puzzled look on his face, and pull his lovely long nose 44 and ask him if he felt lucky???
I have a great deal of exposure to large metropolitan cities of the USA, NYC/NJ, South Florida (Miami), Los Angeles, Chicago, etc. Although in recent years, especially currently--there probably never been a time where police and law enforcement actions have come under scrutiny! But my point here is the bums, homeless and less fortunate people that are reduced to live in public places, whether alley ways, parks, near rivers and streams, etc., etc. No matter their background, the reason for their misfortune or their current mental and medical conditions--it is a fact of life in any larger metro area. How they are treated is solely their own doing 99.99 to 100% of the time. There are quite ones that truly mind their own business and do what they have to do and are completely respectful, courteous and mindful of any other person they happen to come into contact with. Then there are the aggressors, the trouble makers and the "it's not my fault i lost everything and i got hooked on drugs and my family left me and i lost my home' type of people that cause extreme problems, threaten, destroy, steal and generally are a blight on wherever they are at.
Each type of those less fortunate persons causes their own path of resistance when a police officer rolls up on them for whatever reason.
Have you ever seen Dirty Harry pick out a nice tourist say from the United Kingdom with a camera hanging around his neck and a city map in his hand deciding whether to go into the museum or shopping mall he is standing in front of with a puzzled look on his face, and pull his lovely long nose 44 and ask him if he felt lucky???