7 winning wagers of 6 units each, all the same, paying 35 unit for each one placed.  210 X's 7= 1,470 units, so what??  To me, super reasonable. 

Stay off my threads.  It was better when Vic had the Mod of a thread able to delete the riff raft and trash posted to keep our posts clean.

You ruin threads, stay the hell off my threads from here on out.  I asked you nicely, there.

I don't see the need for members here to come on a thread, chastise the OP and then vanish--especially with a one liner.  It is immature and foolish banter.  I made no claims as to any longevity, promises or guarantees---NONE WHATSOEVER.  I won well over 1,000 units!!!!, with this 'systematic approach' as mechanical as they come, and I had a blast doing it.  Now, I have a member coming on, chastise by kind of subliminal talk and posting a one-liner verdict about my system. 

Okay, didn't realize I was among psychics and wizards. 

I won't really get into it--but there was this guy playing at the table and reciting almost everything he was doing.  As I was saying the, "Eenie Meanie Minny Moe" thing out loud, he looks at me, cocks his head and calls me, 'a nut'.  The dealer told the guy, "you should go over to the baccarat table and watch Glen sprinkle magical dust on cards once in awhile, you will really think he is whacked". 

But anyway--the guy wagers on my first bet where the 22 hit, 1st of 12, the 2nd column, for the 17/18/20/21, Odd, and Black.  He wins on the Black and losses a bunch of money.  I told him, 'great-your wager simply smoked the casino bro'.  He says, 'that was only one, i will more than make it up next wager.  So I stand there and get my next 5 numbers and watch the guy lose almost everything he had in front of him.  Then I wager for the second time when the 6 hits.  He wagers, the end for the 7/10/18/11/9/12, the Red, the 2nd column, Even and a large amount on the 2nd of 12.  He says how he is moving and alternating most of the wagers, etc., as compared to the previous one.  He loses everyone except for the Even.  LOL, I pointed it out to him and he goes, ''why don't you do play baccarat and leave'?

LOL, I love happy gamblers!

Looking at my notes from last night.  If it hit a '0' the number to wager would have been 27.  If it hit a '00' the number to wager would have been 28.

The 1st set of 6, I played was the flowing set:  My six numbers I stood there and watched was  30-22-31-8-33-3.  So the first six numbers in the first set, I counted the proper odd and even for each and then I recite out loud, exactly what I was taught and pointed as well--I am not changing a thing--not with 7 winning hands out of ! 

So my first set on the dealers 7th spin was:  29-21-20-7-22 and 16.  I won with the 22.

My 2nd set of numbers were, dealer hitting 22-6-17-30-21-9.  My second set was:  21-5-31-29-5 and 27.  I won with the 6.

Now you should understand. (?)

Total for the 9 spins, +1,470 units and I lost 282 units.

Also, you cannot wager until the dealer spins for another 5 times after you wager your first set of 6 numbers.  So you first wager will be the dealers 7th spin and your second wager will be the dealer's 13th spin. 

And BTW, roulette--still boring as hell but I played only cause I had to check out all the systems being posted on the board here.  LOL. 

I will sketch out what I hit last night.  I am on the way to eat breakfast with my crew and when i get in I will do it. 

It is simple, if a 0 hits in the  'SYSTEM SELECTOR PHASE' you have to get your  following number going counterclockwise and then go back to clockwise once again.

 With all the recent posting of roulette systems and claims of easy money  system to win, I decided to walk over to the roulette tables last night and check out the wheels.  I copied down 7 of the recent systems posted and sad to say I would have lost well over 150 units if I wagered according to the sets of descending and ascending numbers as well as many other systems and sets of  numbers posted here.

However, I did come up with something after watching a lady about 80 years old pretty much constantly winning!!

Here it is.  It is called Pure Tiger Bliss!!

Watch the wheel spin 6 times.  Each number that won go clockwise to the 3rd one past the winner if the winner was odd and start at the 4th one if it was even and do the following.  "Eennie meanie minny moe, catch a tiger by the toe, if he hollows let him go". Each time you say a word from that 'system selector phrase', move your finger one space further in conjunction with each word from the phrase.  Do that 6 times for 6 numbers, get those 6 numbers. Those 6 numbers will be your system set for the next spin.  Then each consecutive spin you will be doing the same thing for your 2nd wager, and so on. If either 0 hits start your thing on the 2nd number counterclockwise. 

Like highly recommended here, wager this great system 20 spins wagering the 6 sets of numbers.  Stop loss 100 units,  but I don't think you will encounter those 6 sets of numbers losing 20 times! 

I won 7 out of 9 spins.  The old lady told me it has a lot to do with how you point and verbally say out loud, extremely loud, the "eennie meanie minny moe" thing.  Have fun and win!

Pure bliss, I'm telling you!!!

Baccarat
By; Tommy Renzoni
Published 1977
$4.95
107 Pages
5 X 7 inch paperback size

I found this one the other day stuffed in a drawer of mine.  It is a non-fiction merge of basic baccarat rules, the real basic strategy most believe or believed and a bit of the history of the game.  It is real easy reading, small book.  Interesting to the the baccarat aficionados, if that is not you, my advise is to skip it.

It is out of print from what I gather but available in Amazon and E-bay from about $10.00 to $20.00 range. 

I truly love Tommy's closing paragraph of the book:

"They say that Lady Luck gets tired of carrying anyone on her shoulders for too long, but that in time, she'll give everyone a lift or two.  Your lucky turn will come, and when it does enjoy every minute of it.  I hope that I have shown you how to entice her your way a little sooner and to have a little more to show for it when she drops you than you otherwise have had."

Simply talk which is so spot on and so ignored by most.  ".......Most people do just the opposite, doubling up when they are losing in a foolish attempt to get their losses back fast, and restricting themselves becoming Conservative when they begin to win.  It's the old story of self-preservation.  They lose and they think they must get back to a break-even point as quickly as possible.  So they double up before coming into a win pattern, and what happens?"

Light reading, factual and plenty to get you really thinking.  Without all the icing and cherries of today's authors.

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I endorse what Vic just posted and I added my thoughts above his.  Spam and scam sucks to the millionth power on gambling boards!! 

There is no room for people spamming their own products through subliminal and hidden thoughts and conversations here. 

To me, someone selling something should be confined to his section or blog ref that product,  elsewhere on the board I don't believe he should be allowed to promote, harp his product in a challenging way.  Same as a newspaper.  Display ads and ad editorials are fine, but writing a letter to bash or correct someone and then continually promote and sidestep all display advertising ads is plain wrong, influential, and commercially biased endorsed by the newspaper or the website owner and unfair.

Usually and imo and experiences, members will come in, intro and state.  Rather than through out tantalising copy and paste videos and pictures.  Especially with what I call, post a tiny bit to build interest and bait.  I highly doubt I am wrong.

Yep, the other night--OMG!  Seriously people!  Did we all start playing this game a few months ago?? 

What is with the finger pointing at the score board?  What is with that, someone please explain it to me! Sitting there in your seat at a baccarat table, supposedly all adults, real money, some with thousands and thousands dollars in front of them.  Pointing at the score board!!  Worse and worse and more prevalent as time clicks on. 

So driven, so determined that they will win.  These people are appearing that they cannot take, 'I just can't win tonight' and I will call it quits and try again next week.  Those also, more and more.  Change money and change money and continually pour it on, the same thing.  It didn't work with the first $1,000.00 you bought in with, it didn't work with the 2nd, $1,000.00 you bought in with and it did not work with the other $3,000.00 you tried.  You are into it tonight for $5,000.00 thus far.  Again and again, up to $10,000.00. Win a few and repeat the same system, the one or two things you wholeheartedly belief in, mostly every time it gets to the 3rd and 4th repeat B or P you pour it on for the 'cut', or one of another 15 to 20 other key things. 

Now you grab a score card as well, do the vertical thing, abiding by the 2's and 3's.  Win 1 or 2 and lose the next 3 or so.  Win 4 and then lose 4 or 5 or 6.  The game does not change the way you are wagering.  Never could figure out why most people believe they can change that board??  Doesn't matter if it's a Monday night or a Thursday night or early Saturday AM, never changes!

A female there the other night, went through $15,000.00 easy, probably more.  Same thing.  Never changes her beliefs. I totally understand the thing about stacking up the win money but not the repeated buy-in.  Win far less than you lost and repeating without thought.  And the kicker, the wagering patterns stay almost the same, no changes.  No conversions to what is actually coming out of the shoe.  None, zero.  That is the kicker.  And the other kicker is, the easier and the more prevalent the pattern being actually presented and made--the highest majority of these new era players will not go with it. 

Maybe it's an ego thing??  I don't have the slightest.  The players I do know and the players I do talk frankly with, will all change their attack plan if they continually buy-in with additional funds, losing to start with.  And then when they recoup, they almost all cash out and leave.  But the other group of them will be so hell driven to win and win lots, no matter what they do recoup--they cannot prevail and their destiny for the night was sealed before they every wagered bet #1. 

(This entire post is addressing/answering to what Mark/Gizmo posted two spots above here, with the red and the blue added within this posting by myself).

Quote from: alrelax on Today at 04:19:22 PM

you talk stuff just go work and pay him back. Simple, why the poo poo?? (I wasn't attempting to antagonize Gizmo, just wanted his answer and finally got it)


I planned on that but now that part is wrecked for a surprise. So here is how it has been. The guy and I both know that you have to be aware of situation, motivation, and deliberate action to make the math work. We both accept this notion. So I got swept up in the TurboGenius commotion with four of my students at the school. That led to me creating a rule based computer simulation that actually worked. It's not Turbo's fault. It's mine. But I was totally convinced that it worked. It even makes sense that it should work It's based totally on the law of third stuff. In fact I'm surprised that it does not work. (That is from Gizmo, so be it.  It is what it is.  I have no reason other than to accept it at face value without my opinion as I am not part of it).


That is why I have written hundreds of unique sims investigating systems. I wanted to actually know if an idea worked or even came close to working. I was 100% sure this had to work. I took the money and made bold, blind, rule based bets expecting it to pay off. It was not a case of problem gambling. I even hocked my recording studio and fell behind on my new car payments believing this had to work. It blew up in my face and wrecked my friendship with our mystery contributor. I don't care what people think. He really put his own money up on all this. (Again, from Gizmo and he offers his reasoning's/explanation why he did what he did without technical reference or reasoning.  Again, fine as that is his explanation.  All good.)


So you wonder why I disclose my own dirty laundry in public. Truth on gambling forums is a very rare commodity. I'm an old fart. I can take it. I've lived some of the highest highs and also the lowest lows. I bragged that I had found the Holy Grail. I had to equally display the claim of my failure. It's just who I am. I learned early on that nobody cares what I did as one of the worlds first poly extreme athletes. So I did all that for myself. Nobody cares if I succeed at this. I'm just mad at myself that I went over budget and lost a gentleman's trust. This has brought me to the point to find out if what I have put together works, if it does, continue to use it, or give up. I'm at that point. If it does not work, and it is because I still have no self control, then I will know it. If it works, then I will know that I have mastered my self control issues. If it works I could have changed my life more than ten years ago when I started heavy research. If it works I will only say now that it is self control that makes it work. I won't say how I did that. It makes no sense wrecking it for others. Anyway several people here I suspect have found their own way to make gambling work. You are one of them.  (I have no problem with people finding 'holy-grails' and bragging about them.  I have a problem when they sell them and rip people off with all of their numerous 'would have's', 'could have's', or 'should have done it but you missed used it', pure b.s. stuff almost all of them are.  However, what Gizmo did or relayed was his own stuff and was pretty up-front about it to a point.  I am not privy to it all nor did I pay for anything.  We talked about numerous things, on and off the board.  We got side tracked with each of our personal life's and agendas, etc.  We both probably said things we should not have??  I don't 100% know or am I trying to justify anything here.  Mark/Gizmo did go off and choose to demean and humiliate myself with medical reasoning, right or wrong—I took offensive to the near majority of it and probably should have just ignored his medical claims regarding myself, etc.  But that is in the past, I won't bring it up again, at least I don't think I will.  As far as the self-control and knowledge issues, you have plenty and probably more good ones than bad ones.  We all have bad ones, we have to or we would not know what the good ones are or be able to work towards them and refine whatever it is we need to in any area we are working in, etc. 

As far as what other's think, people on here, especially those that do not go way back with us, do mistake numerous things I say, all good.  However, they also have a habit to come on and state that and throw in their hatred and/or jealousy without reason too many times.  They are kind of like part-time instigators.  So be it, they will never go away and they are worthless anyway.  As far as the 'truth on gambling forums is a rare commodity' is one of the biggest and boldest and never more accurate statements ever made on here!  110%! 

What so many have no clue and no idea in gambling is, the situation, the action and the ability and how it all merges together.  But one also needs, motivation, clear mind, vision, non-greed, non-have to, intense alertness without being one bit pompous, etc., to actually make those sessions pay off.  Besides having a vast amount of knowledge about the downfalls and the psych interactions I have written about in such detail on the board.  The game cannot be beat, there is no way to physically do it on a consistent basis using mathematical and statistical protocols, it is with everything else a player can make it work.  However, if you found something else and you forgo everything I ever written about and discovered set mathematical protocols, god bless you—I am not saying it can never be done, I just don't see it or believe it can be in such nature.

As far as making gambling 'work'.  Yes, I have in many ways.  Perfectly, no.  Better than the past, most certainly!  I never claimed to be the guru or have the 'holy-grail' with commercial marketability such as that guy did whom came on here recently with all those books and systems, etc.  I would not trade what I know or what I have been through for anything, nothing.  I am pretty convinced I know 95% or better of all that exists in baccarat play, agendas, systems, teams, trends, patterns, play, people, etc., etc.  That is my knowledge and that is my tool chest.  I have never tried to make a living at gambling, nor depend on it for my sole support and livelihood.  I did pour hundreds and hundreds of hours during the past year into a commercial school I was set to open in Nevada and the State Officials put a kink in it that I could not go for with licensing and permitting, they put it on the same level as post-secondary education with certified teachers, courses and everything else a regular private school would have to post, put up and endure.  I shelved it for the time being.  The state had two independent counsels rule my course synopsis too valuable to dealers and casino personnel, etc.) 

I have been involved in gambling/casinos and businesses related to casinos in one form or another, legal as well as forms of illegal businesses, from many aspects, in many locations during the past decades.  I have not just attacked the tables from the players perspectives, FYI--everyone.  I also have numerous people in my family that are career individuals with some of the largest casino properties in the USA.  My perspectives, my knowledge, my experiences and other things come from all sides.  And like Mark/Gizmo--I have done it all for myself, at least up to this point anyways.


I just felt that I needed to put everything out there as I was running a school and claiming that this way was probably the best.  (That is why it is called a public message board, no?)

It is now 3.30 am.  I worked about 40 hours out of the past 48 hours. I just got home and cleaned up and jumped in bed. I have to wake up by 6 am to be in the office to unlock and open for my crew of guys in at 7 am.  I would have slept on my comfy couch in my office the exact same as last night.  But I have no shower there and I need one before I start another day.    I also want to grab all my little kids presents for Christmas and wrap them beforehand weekend, as I always show them by Halloween how Santa drops by between his runs and leaves stuff off for my 3 wonderful never ever do anything wrong perfect kids!  LOL.

So, Mark, yes. I kind of skimmed around your apology above where you are apologizing for openly berating and humiliating me on the board, i do forgive you 100 percent, its been bothering me.  There, you happy?  I would not have said it if I didn't mean it, sincerely, Glen.

So cute, don't answer but you know its the rice and the cookie, you talk stuff just go work and pay him back. Simple, why the poo poo??  Gambling full time on someone else's dollar without producing really sucks, I can only imagine.  Let me get this straight, can I borrow money, run to the casino and stand there picking numbers to hit on a wheel spinning around and round, hoping for a pay day???  I can only imagine that wonderful gut wrenching irking feeling when those numbers don't hit,  walking out to my car for that ride home,  what an exciting wonderful way to exist.   Then come on a public message board and put it out there for the same guy to see!  I am totally missing something!  Kind of like a drug dealer selling heroin to a teenager and the kid overdoses, the dealer grabs a McDonald's meal and is waiting in front off the families house as the clean sister comes outside, the dealer offers her a free sample and laughs at the parents in tears standing right there,  no difference.  Seriously,  no different.