Quote from: Jaguar88 on September 04, 2017, 12:55:04 PM
Been tied up, but with a good amount at the tables throwing plays down range as hard as ever.  Do you have a link on the piece about the player you mention?  Thanks!

These are people I play with regularly at the local casinos, not Vegas/AC and some of the larger properties in Southern California.  But as an overall view-observance over the past 7 years or so--these are very very common 'average' players with little or lots of funding, the game has changed in the years around 2004/5 to 2008 if you ask me.

http://betselection.cc/alrelax's-blog/mentality-more-than-anything-else!/

Also, this is related as well:

http://betselection.cc/alrelax's-blog/figuring-it-all-outtrying-to-make-it-less-complicated/


Side note:  I stopped by the one casino I played at Thursday and Friday nights as I wrote about also, did very well on Fortune 7's with $40-$50 out there a few times and caught the winning F-7's.  Anyway, last night, I was passing by and stopped in.  Bought in with an extremely low amount of money just to fiddle around with a very close buddy that i have not seen for a couple of months.  He was on something and had the feeling.  Pointed out to me what it was, had to due with winning hand point values, combined with the trend, and a couple of other things.  I am not one to bet a mechanical bet placement, and he does quite a bit.  But I saw what he did also and 'Amy' and another player that will constantly wager negative progression was well into it.  Out of at least 20 wagers we got 15 of them correct.  Every time, no--no way and I would never do it.  But it was there and when it is there---you HAVE TO TAKE it and not wager against it.  That is where the huge PSYCH factor comes into play I have wrote about extensively.  I turned a very small amount of money into about $2k in those hands, of course I should have been wagering $300 to $500 or even $700-$800.  But i was not in the mind frame to play, I know my buddy wagers almost similar to what he was preaching to me, but it was there and when it is there that is EZ-pickings.  'Amy' and the other players lost huge money, at least $25k wagering strictly pink chips in the 20 or so hands.  They hit a couple and started a come-back, but it was so obvious we were both wagering low on the side that we thought and out of sheer respect because we do get along for the other ones, we never made eye contact with them or their wagers before the cards came out.  'Amy' and the other guy got wiped out and the rest of the table did okay.   If the whole table was together, the camaraderie and the wins would have been huge, but people are far too stubborn and believe too much in their attempt to change the shoe presentments!!!!  And, almost all of their losses were over their instance to play the 'cut' when it was obviously strong and then when it was weak (chop-chop) they insisted on the repeats that never came.  The other things we were following were point value winnings and losings, which I rather not get into here because it only causes some members to blast back about superstitions, etc.

Sad but true.

Quote from: ADulay on August 27, 2017, 06:06:57 PM
I still want to know what an "uncivilized bachelor daddy" is.

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To me and only IMO, those can be found around Sunrise Blvd. and the 441 entire area of Fort Lauderdale.  Also, anywhere within the 'pork and beans' AKA Liberty City area of Miami, and extensively around the area of Hallendale Beach Blvd., and State Road 7 area in southern Broward County also, for instance.  Some of the quick identifying traits of those would be, jeans with a belt on that is riding well below their rear-ends as well as multiple colored sneakers usually costing around $300.00 or so.  Oh yeah, the highest majority of them are unemployed as far as a conventional job where they have weekly salaried paycheck and pay taxes, etc. 

IDK, maybe I just don't have the mindset and the age of internet scammers, link posters, sales trolls and all related, etc. 

However, if i got into that business, I would definitely post a little bit first, such as --Hi all, how is everyone--I am Mr., Everyday Link Poster, and i am going to be posting so and so, etc.  At least a few posts to appear real before the links rather than the very first one??

The statistic experts and math wiz's certainly don't play (for real) only in their play minds on this board.  Correct.  Stats and math generally mean nothing and when it does--it is just a 'fleeting' coincidence.  Bottom line is, it makes everything else just as often in real life as it does a stat or a math 'has to', etc.

Players get 'sucked in' more so then anything else.  I wrote about it and Jaguar wrote some about it. 

The silliest thing and as well, the most insane thing about this game is, it is really NOT THAT HARD, once you understand everything but (BUT-NOT) statistics and the math, which mean nothing like I said.

I am going to write a piece about this player, 'Amy' the other night, fits right perfectly here, 100%.  I will write it in my Blog where I post moist everything.  Thanks. 

"We don't know which is worse.  The statistical and mathematical psycho babble that rages on non-stop from people that clearly don't play baccarat at all, but will tell you all about house edge and 'In the long run', or the posers that rip on anyone who presents insight into the game.  WHO DO YOU THINK IS USING INSIGHT INTO THE GAME THEY WRITE?"= (Careful Jaguar--makes too much sense!)

I have wrote extensively on frame-of-mind, psych, players, dealers, the game, the mind, effects on players that hurt players, etc.., etc. etc.  This game of baccarat has nothing to do with what so many think, 'find a magical path to follow and clean house on the casino' such as so many systems sellers and people attempt to con people into thinking, in order to sell their magical system, etc.'

What Jaguar is saying, hard work, more to it, etc., is absolutely 1,000,000% correct and spot on.  I have sat down and lost $25k, $50k and, as well as $3k.  I have sat down and won, $10k, $30k, $90k, $150k, etc.  It is 100% possible.  Not every time, no possible physical  way whatsoever.  However, if you really get into your frame-of-mind, the game, the reasoning's, the variation, the happenings, the players, the people, the casino's offerings, the possibilities, your psych, etc., etc., etc., you will be sitting a great seat to be able to clean-house on the casino when the opportunity is presenting itself, IF YOU HAVE IT ALL FIGURED OUT, and it has nothing at all to do with following a magical newly discovered $49.99 or a $1,500.00 set wagering pattern sold to you. 

As Jaguar said, it is hard work, trial and error, knowing whom to get your info from, knowing what you can and cannot do, knowing what systems are and how they work and when they work, knowing your thoughts, reactions, reserves and all that.  Knowing what to do with the win money and everything that is going to happen with win money if you use it solely for aggressive progressions to smack the casino, etc.  It is not easy, but once you figure it out, it really is 'almost' easy.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-gambling-usa-dummies-exclusive-idUSKBN19D137

Well I don't know!  At times it is so easy and yet--at times it is so tough!  Last weekend playing.  The normal people, the normal crowd at the baccarat table.  There was a couple of great shoes---frigging great--seriously, like the high 40's of one side and the low 20's of the opposite side.  Problem was, everyone was against each other.  Zero camaraderie with verbal explanation of almost every single hand, why the shoe was going to do 'such and such' or do 'so and so'.  Also, verbally each person telling the others why they were wagering stupidly and hurting the table.  Nothing but resentment.  The 2 shoes were easy $50k to $100k shoes for anyone that wagers decent on them. 

The shoe presentments were repeating themselves, whatever they were producing and to me those are the best ones!  Long series of chop-chop's, series of double/pairs/ 7 to 12 streak bankers and players a couple times in each shoe, etc., etc., etc. Like I said, great shoes to follow, positive progression, win several and cut down and do it again and again throughout the shoe. But no, the people have to fight, pull rank and play against each other.  Repeatedly wining several hands, throwing $400.00 out there, they win, high five and stack it up to $800.00.  They win again and pull down $1,600 or $1,800.00 of it.  Great, I thought they are actually getting the hang of this.  Then they go to fighting.  One places on the players and the other places on the banker and verbally tells him that he is wagering against him because he is wrong.  And this is on a shoe where it is strong, super strong.  Damn!  You know years ago, we lived for these shoes and we all played together, every single person at the table.  We was us clearly against the casino, nothing else. I will tell you when there was strong shoes, we all won at least 28 out of ever 30 strong shoes.  Now it is like completely the opposite.  Seriously!  WTF??

More often than not, this is really what happens.  Sometimes, very clear and at other times, still there but not so clear.  The other problem I have learned over the years with most players, is their total lack of planning, direction, adherence to too many fallacies and fairy tales and their 'self-inflicted' collusion in the endless loop they are involved in.  They need to back up, look and realize what they are doing.  Coming into the casino with their hard earned money or their borrowed money, either one--play--usually win for a while and then their head blows up and they go for it, hard and fast.  And then that endless-loop comes out, they go bust and they buy in a few more times and the same things happen.  No plan and no direction.  This is really the upper 90 percentile of every time they come in to gamble at baccarat. 

The problem almost all players have, is their ability to recognize the shoe-presentments, as well as merging and interfacing their wagering with what MIGHT or MIGHT NOT happen in the shoe.  Within the instant shoe and within the section they are currently in.  As I have literally laid out in a series of 10 articles within the highlighted section of my Blog, merely believing in a system or a wagering protocol/triggers (we all of them) of two or three variations will not allow you to profit at this game.  All that does, and it normally will take you years to figure out, is you win and you give it all back and then some trying to  those triggers again and again.  Simple, but yet so complicated for most all players.

As I have said, the game is considerably more than knowing what will win a few times-sometimes.  Because there is 'something' always winning and losing, every single hand.  I see stacks and stacks of chips--but the value of them is nothing to most players because they are not cashed out and kept as cash funds.  They are merely regarded as 'possibilities' for larger wins and the straightening out of all their problems, in the casino and outside the casino.  There is no other reason, none whatsoever. 

You know Atlantis I like analogies, so i will give one here. 

I have a great deal of exposure to large metropolitan cities of the USA, NYC/NJ, South Florida (Miami), Los Angeles, Chicago, etc. Although in recent years, especially currently--there probably never been a time where police and law enforcement actions have come under scrutiny!  But my point here is the bums, homeless and less fortunate people that are reduced to live in public places, whether alley ways, parks, near rivers and streams, etc., etc.  No matter their background, the reason for their misfortune or their current mental and medical conditions--it is a fact of life in any larger metro area.  How they are treated is solely their own doing 99.99 to 100% of the time.  There are quite ones that truly mind their own business and do what they have to do and are completely respectful, courteous and mindful of any other person they happen to come into contact with.  Then there are the aggressors, the trouble makers and the "it's not my fault i lost everything and i got hooked on drugs and my family left me and i lost my home' type of people that cause extreme problems, threaten, destroy, steal and generally are a blight on wherever they are at. 

Each type of those less fortunate persons causes their own path of resistance when a police officer rolls up on them for whatever reason. 

Have you ever seen Dirty Harry pick out a nice tourist say from the United Kingdom with a camera hanging around his neck and a city map in his hand deciding whether to go into the museum or shopping mall he is standing in front of with a puzzled look on his face, and pull his lovely long nose 44 and ask him if he felt lucky???   

I retract everything I said Stephen,  do what you want,  I will never come on any thread started by one your several 'by-proxy' members,  sell your fallacy,  best of luck,  glen....

Atlantis, he most certainly is!  Last night Stephen engaged me on p.m, and to tell the truth it got bad.  I blocked him and just put an end to it,  it was ludercious what he was saying about taking over, his fans, his power, his knowledge.  Enough is enough. 

If you are asking, will they remove the zeros? I have never seen it even in the high limit rooms.

Loss rebates are generally 5 to 20 percent in most high limit  rooms in Vegas. Depends on your front money and or markers and also how long you have been with a particular property.  Hope that helps you.

Here is the deal, it is on the table for today only.

Go back, be quite and promote your book you so strongly believe in.  If you continue the brew-haha bogus/fake and play-time posts with your several proxy members, I will put some heart and soul into writing one of the most detail reviews on your book you ever seen and it will get posted on about 25 gambling sites, as well as--about 24-36 general sites.  I kid you not. The same way you threatened me for a few days with Vic and then I laid it out for Vic's review.  Then what happened, simply happened.

If you want some truthful, honest, horrible, scam exposure book reviews, keep it up.  For if you do, I wholeheartedly promise you, Vic, Esoito, ADulay, and each and every person here I will do what I say.  In fact, I have a woman that works for me in my office and she is working all day tomorrow and Sunday dispatching because I have 3 larger sized jobs going on and someone has to be next to the phones and the radios to log everything.  And, point being--she is very very good-creative and used to teach English as well.  Try me--call my bluff, please! I have plans out of the office all weekend starting tonight. 

So the ball is in your court.  I know you do not know a single thing about the Bronx, New York, but that is where I am from and my family as well.  I give you my word, I swear (with every ounce of frigging energy I have) that if your play-time does not cease and desist today, you will have the most honest--truthful--explicit--detailed--insightful and convincing book reviews from several experienced baccarat players about your book.  Call the FBI, The DEA, The ATF, NASA, The U.S. Attorney's Office, ISIS, Customs Police, Homeland Security, Las Vegas Metro Vice Cops, anyone your little heart pleases.  Take it anyway you want it--but what is fair, is fair--plain and simple. 

As they say, the ball is now in your court.  You sure are costing yourself numerous sales even if you squash the play-time, because I know there are people that would have bought your book but they will not just because of the games you play on here.  And as far as the airline pilot, give it a rest.  Someone 80 something years old does not function the way he portrays himself on here.  Plain and simple. As well as the other 2 or 3 members by proxy you created.  As well, there are other evidence tell-tales, such as the couple minute apart created profiles and more.  So stop! 

Here is your one chance, you first--immediate--and last.  Take it or not.  You call it, you roll with it.   Go back to your corner, promote your book out of our sight, stop the member-by-proxy stupid cow poo-poo and it is closed.  I will not offer again, this is it.  All you need to do, is come on here with your pilot by proxy or one of your other bogus fake member profile and say something berating and humiliating.  Then the game is on.  Nothing else to say  to be said.

Ball is in your court!

Quote from: John_Stemart on August 10, 2017, 02:03:11 PM
I'm going to order a book too. did you read the 2.1 edition?

This is Stephen, I will go ahead and say it.  A dirty spade is a dirty spade, plain and simple.  The writing style, the attack, the 'know where all the posts are', it is Stephen waiting for the day his garbage (IMO) book came out, and maybe i just do have a damn copy!  If you keep pushing the way you have, I will do exactly what I did the last time around bro---I called your bluff with Vic.  I will do it again and buddy boy--you have a lot more lose than I do.  I will again, obtain your book, take pictures and write reviews on all major gambling sites, I promise that, I swear that over a couple of little kids life's close to me--it is okay when the result of what I am swearing is true.

I will also state, there is no way that the sudden 'rash' of  all the brand new (BY PROXY IP) members are not Stephen, no possible psychical way. This board is screwed, Vic---do something.  Delete all the new accounts the past couple of days, they are all Stephen's accounts, plain and simple.

Quote from: Chamzy on August 11, 2017, 01:27:36 AM
I can assure you the golden secret 3.0 baccarat book I bought on Amazon does shutter the house edge. I bought a kindle copy and used it to the letter and came away winning. What more can you ask for. All I can say is well done Mr. Tabone, you're a genius and I will send you a paypal donation. Thank goodness someone had brains enough to workout and write the greatest system on baccarat at least I have ever read.

John, take it from me, the only insanity is from people that have no interest in baccarat but pretend they do so as to play the fool guy and drive real talent away from the net. I have read posts on this forum for months and could not help but joining proper to tell it as it is.

This is Stephen, I will go ahead and say it.  A dirty spade is a dirty spade, plain and simple.  The writing style, the attack, the 'know where all the posts are', it is Stephen waiting for the day his garbage (IMO) book came out, and maybe i just do have a damn copy!  If you keep pushing the way you have, I will do exactly what I did the last time around bro---I called your bluff with Vic.  I will do it again and buddy boy--you have a lot more lose than I do.  I will again, obtain your book, take pictures and write reviews on all major gambling sites, I promise that, I swear that over a couple of little kids life's close to me--it is okay when the result of what I am swearing is true.

I will also state, tre is no way that the sudden 'rash' of  all the brand new (BY PROXY IP) members are not Stephen, no possible psychical way. This board is screwed, Vic---do something.  Delete all the new accounts the past couple of days, they are all Stephen's accounts, plain and simple.