+20 WINS for me with something I would have wagered and if I controlled myself and not wagered anything else than what I probably would have-as I marked it up, +20 hand win for me in those 3 shoes.  I have no idea how he only won the +9, but I would have prevailed with 20 wins and whatever amount of units I was wagering!

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The guy said he has all the money he needs and he is compelled to help others. You do not have to read his material and you don't have to like it but how about letting the guy have his space and help others as he said, if they want it??  Why so derogatory? Thanks AL-RELAX

Well, its been a little while but I will add on to 'The Blog' here with some things that happened last night at the casino.

The single most important thing, is to clear your mind, most players cannot not figure out or understand.  However, some players will actually realize, why and how they lost for certain events and times. 

The score, the board, are like radio spots.  You will hear and hear radio ads and then hopefully one day when you need that service or product—you will call them and they will profit.  Same in baccarat, players tend not to forget but they confuse themselves with all their past hands-happenings-shoes, etc.  You have to recognize what you want and if and how it will be actually exposed when you are playing.  There is always something to say about winning or losing point values.

On players saying this or that after a hand or before a hand.  OMG!  All the time!  Sure I do it once in a while as well.  More so with the players I know than I do not.  Others do it all the time.  Pointing out and showing everyone, why such and such will happen or did just or previously happen.  Of course when something did not happen (that was supposed to happen), there is not much explanation or any recourse, etc.  But the talk never ceases.  Last night at the casino, it was from someone I respect and he does rather well.  For better than half a shoe, a total of a 7 got beat every time by the opposite side with the first 2 cards or the 3rd card draw, as well as the subsequent hand going to the opposite side for the cut.  Then it stops doing that.  The next shoe came along and they were still talking about it and that influenced these people in their wagering when a 7 came out for the following hand.  The most ludicrous thing and in favor of the casino BIG TIME—is the score board and cards!!!!  It makes the average player so conscious of what it should be and why and winning numbers and everything else involved in scoring, he will miss out on the more important aspect of the future hands. The players are actually analyzing the score and not what the shoe is producing!   Two very different things!

Then a new shoe after that one.  There was right at 20 hands out.  Never past a 3, a 3 repeat of bankers or players and then a 'cut'.  I think there was 5 of them.  I wagered only those.  Won everyone.  The other people except my buddy, were all wagering heavy on the 3rd one after a successful win and even heavier for the 4th one that never came.  Then a dealer switch on a 2nd banker.  I did not wager, although I wanted to wager for the 3rd banker, I also wanted the 'cut'.  But I choose to stay out because everyone was very heavy on the 3rd banker and I mean everyone, between $800 and $2,000 and it was a $2k table max.  I did not wager and I really had great profitable games with the new dealer in the past and he was one of my favorite dealers there,  that just came in.  He was ready to deal and a couple of the players told him to stop.  They begged me to wager with them and rather than kill the building camaraderie happening, I threw in one quarter on the banker.  Their faces were frowns and laughter.  I was urged to wager larger.  I did not want to and I felt it was the end of the section.  I have talked about and wrote about sections here and I truly believe in them and they truly exist in every shoe, at least if it is not a super rare non-deviation banker and player results like every single hand a chop-chop or a doubles the whole entire shoe.  I stood fast at the quarter for the sake of support.  Boom, natural 9 for the players and a losing hand for the bankers.  No, I am not physic or a magician, just time to change up and I was right, could have been wrong.  Just the reasoning was strictly based on it made 5 times triples in the past and it will do it again.  Now, I would agree more about the 2nd line for the 2nd repeating one that just occurred but not the 3rd.  If it made the 3rd and the 4th I would have to stay on it for the remaining and only losing the last one at that point.  But the talk and the reason is all wrong when you are talking about outside the section or past a shoe divided up into 3 or 4 section for every 20 -25 hands or so.  Can it continue, sure.  But I see less and less continue with the pattern/trend/winning hand production from each shoe outside of the section.  Looking at the first section and being in the last section of the shoe is what I am referring to as well.  Or the previous shoes.   

It changes, and changes throughout the shoe.  At time I am only wagering on the banker or player to continue and at times I am wagering for the cut and yet, at other times I am wagering for win after another wager until it hits with doubling and tripling and quadrupling, etc., on one side until I win my one unit (a negative progression). 

A good player plays with it or possible the player plays against it—stays at and no set protocol.  Has a habit of saying the cards he doesn't wait for—the 3rd ones for the players and the bankers if the rules demand those to be pulled.  Doesn't matter, cannot change it, and not in any way whatsoever — others at the table are getting mad at him.  Clearly—the majority of the times a person calling for a card won't care.  OMG, one of the regulars I gamble with all the time.  Last night he would comment after the first four cards were drawn.  If it needs a 3rd card for the players and/or the bankers-he would normally call out for a winning card for the opposite side than what he did actually wager.  Why??  Because he cannot change it no matter what he says or does not say!  Clearly the majority of the times a person calling for a card for that 3rd card is going to be wrong anyways.  It is a frustrating and a freakish type of situation, IMO. 

Some people will continually flat bet.  Some will wager the opposite side when it gets to a repeated 3rd or 4th min streak.  Most of them are basing their wagering decisions on a majority and collective experiences from their past—not the instant shoe.  Can in reality go either way of course.  Just take a period of 10 times within 1 shoe that the board made 3 and 4 repeating bankers or players.  A player might have wagered everyone at that time for the opposite side to come out.  He might as well have kept wagering through 6 or 8 or 10 times to recoup his losing wagers and make the one unit once the opposite side prevailed.  One time going to say 9 times on a $50.00 wager would be $25,550.00 to make $50.00 and recoup any of the prior loses in so trying.  If the player started at the more intelligible say 4th attempt to have it 'cut', meaning there was 3 previous repeating wins for one side, he wagers $50.00 on the fourth hand to cut to the opposite side.  Then it does not.  He makes a decision to double up until it does cut.  It gets to the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th wager.  He would need a total of $3,150.00 to risk to recoup his losses and make the same $50.00. 

I have a way and a system that stops me after 2 negative wagers that is highly successful to me, but that is IMO and protective as to how far I do get into a negative progression.  Yes, eventually it will cut to the opposite side, but if you don't think 7 or 9 or 11 or 13 times happen, sure it is low, but it happens all the time.  It is not the way the greatest amount of players play and the reason being, their bank rolls and buy in's do not permit them to.  If you have the bank roll, you can always make one unit if you stay on the same side you are attempting for (the opposite side as to when you started your wagering) and the table limits allow you to, etc.  It will always switch.  I much rather get on a 7 plus streak with a positive progression in the beginning and only lose the last hand when it eventually will 'cut'.  IMO, it is hard to bounce back and forth with both styles of play, extremely hard.  That is why I have previously wrote about the average and the highest majority of all players thinking and wagering 1-way only!!!  Meaning, it is their way or the highway theory.  They think and predict one way and the shoe has to conform to that 1 way.  I wrote about and mentioned the 4 way or actually 8 way thinking agenda rather than the 1 way. 

1 Way=North.  As long as the shoe conforms to your predictions based on whatever, you are good to go.  If not you lose.  Period.  Instead, open your mind and allow yourself to look at all 8 ways, North, Northeast, East, Southeast, South, Southwest, West, North West, etc. 

Also, last night once again.  There are two regular players.  One is a lady that is a very good player and her ways of thinking usually attacks all the angles most every wager within each section.  The other is a son of a guy I mention a lot, a casino buddy I know in the casino as well as outside.  His son started playing about a year or so ago, maybe 18 months now.  The female came in a game, me and another guy started up, wow—she was depressed and her face showed it.  Small talk led her to tell us that she won $13k the night before, Thursday evening.  She lost it all late Thursday and earlier before we started las night.  She is a $50 to $250/$350 a hand type of player with a $2,500/$4,000 buy-in, etc.  She told us all the same things I have wrote about, thought she could control the table and the shoe, thought her winning streak would hold out, thought she could continue hitting the F-7's for $25 or $50 at a time, etc.  How one shoe had 5 of them and then none for 2 or 3 shoes, etc., etc.  Then the guy, the son of my buddy, won over $10k also and gave it all back.  Then he started in and would win, $200, press to $400 and win and then to $800 and win and then go to $1,600.  Lose.  Bought in with a few thousand and then a few thousand more.  Lost it all in one and a half shoes.  Great bets, spot on for the first 3 or 4 and then every time he pressed up and up to the 4th or 5th one, he would lose.  Then the clear frustration set in, clearly.  Then all the mistakes.  Like 4 and 5 bankers in a row and his thought was 'cut'.  Buys in with another $1,500 and throws it all up on the players.  Bankers continue.  Both, sad.  All the typical and all the obvious.  These are people that played like I said, 18 months or 2 or 3 years.  They do not know the volatility of the game and also, the way their psych's are effected by winning and losing both. 

I wish you luck with your commercial endeavors.

I did not judge anything, I said great and congratulations.  If you like, I can remove that part?  You didn't even say thanks.  Oh well. 

You are coming on here to promote your book you are making a profit off of.  You should IMO, support this website with Vic, many of us have donated money to him to keep this place going.  You are here for commercial reasons, please support our website and donate at least $100.00 to Vic, many of us have giving $50.00 or so without commercial reasons.  It is only fair and just and shows your good faith to support the site that has the potential to make you money. 

As far as books, I have read many, not all.  I know the triggers, the systems, the tricks and profitable agendas to baccarat.  I have gambled for years, about 37 years or so that is.  At every baccarat and high limit room in Atlantic City, at Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun in CT and Seminole in Florida.  At no less than 25 casino properties in the Midwest as well as Pala, Pechanga, Morongo and Agua Caliente in Southern California.  In Vegas the Mirage, Treasure Island, The Bellagio, Planet Hollywood and before that it at The Aladdin.  At the Wynn and before that at The Desert Inn.  Palace Station, Gold Coast and The Rio.  At Caesar's Palace, MGM, and the Tropicana.  M Bay and others.  Bottom line, a few of us non-published people, might know a few things about baccarat as well. 

Great and congratulations!

Me Too!  Absolutely.  Has to win, has to be guaranteed and if I don't win or like it, the money has to be refunded!  LOL, glad I was not drinking coffee when I read that one!

You know, I used to be in Manhattan (New York City) for a long time.  There used to be this restaurant in a very crowed part of 'mid-town' and they had this sign in the window.  "Come on in--eat our food and if you don't truly like it and enjoy it--we will not charge you".  I used to eat there, before the sign was posted.  It was a great place--no doubt.  Then it was conceivable the sign helped attract new customers without a doubt!  Then after a few months the sign came down.  I asked the owner why.  He told me, 'Because so many of the people are liars and cheats, they eat everything on their plates and then they say they did not like it'. 

 
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As I mentioned within the thread above, 'Perception'. 

To me, I know this has a lot to do with wagering and the game itself.

You know perception does effect us in various ways in many things we all do.  The other day I was talking to an employee about my little son.  The little kid love Five Nights at Freddy's and all the characters with Freddy.  When I mention, 'Freddy' to the employee--he says, "OMG, I remember that guy from Nightmare on Elm Street".  Which of course was the 1984 or so movie and Freddy Krueger the brunt killer with the metal claws on his hand, etc. 

But my little boy is involved with Freddy from Five Nights at Freddy's which is a 2014 origination.  Two different characters, two different plots and adventures or whatever they are called.

Same in baccarat.  Mention something and take favoritism to a certain thing, and the next person has a total different perception of it for whatever reason.  Might not even be the same thing. 

Lack Of Visualization--Tangible/Intangible

All of the above interfaces with the baccarat player, realize it, acknowledge it, ignore it, whatever, it is your choice.

Like in most other thinking or labor dependent type of processes where there is a rationalizing/deduction process for what to do or what should be done, all 3 of the areas identified in the title, Lack Of Visualization--Tangible/Intangible  will usually come into play. 

Lack Of:  Just because something is lacking, does not mean, it does not exist.  Does not mean, it will not come around.  Does not mean, it is going to make a huge showing/appearance.  Does not mean, it cannot come appear relatively easy. 

Lack Of is by far and large the single most ruining factor of the game of baccarat for countless players.  Do not kid yourself, the very opposite, An Abundance of, will also be a ruining factor but in my opinion, not nearly as much as the lack of, infliction.  Players just do not visualize the streaks, runs, large clusters and related winning events that formed sections within the shoe.  The players are basically negative and leery because of their own or their friends losing experiences.  So, their psych convinces them that, because they do not see it up on the board,it is not coming, etc.  Then when it does, they still will not believe it or even recognize it, the typical and proverbial 'double whammy'.  Boom!  They got smacked on the side of their heads.  And that happens, admit it or not, consistently!

Here is a non-baccarat analogy of, Lack Of.  Say you are mowing your lawn and it is thick.  You are happily walking behind your mower, usually never a problem.  However, all of a sudden 'Bang-Clack-Clack-Cling', etc.  Huge noises and all of a sudden your mower cuts out.  You tip the mower to one side and you see some large metal debris pieces of 'whatever'.  You could have walked the yard real quick and looked for such objects but, you reason with yourself and justify your laziness by saying, that never happened before.  Kind of like when you play a baccarat shoe and it was so choppy everyone was losing money by wagering for the repeats that never came.  Then once you started wagering the chop it went to a 14 or 16 run/streak Banker or Player and you missed it all.  You missed it for the same reason, you failed to see it or even believe it could be there and come forward.   

Visualization:   The trickiest and the most difficult by far, is the fact that there is the visualization factor at the game of baccarat.  While other card games within the casino might be solely based on numbers and some other technical thought process, baccarat has numerous visual influencing events continuing though out the shoe that effect the highest majority of all players.   


____        ____     C         K


____       ____                      ____   ____   ____    K



What happens if you put the letters SU/FU/CO/DI, etc., in the first 2 spots of the first work where the 'CK' are already inserted?  People visualize but still can be so confusing or leaning towards the non-appropriate and the farthest thing from the truth or what will actually happen, etc.   

As in baccarat and the score board, the score board, etc., it is all resting with the player and his interpretation of what he sees.  Many people will look at the above and immediately say 'Suck or F*ck'.  But the real phase that should appear there would be 'Back to Work'. 

Negative.  Wise.  Derogatory.  Like, a 'WOW' effect was sought, etc.
Enticing.  Bold statement.  While it could have been just that, very possibly it could have been the complete opposite with a subtle and very non-head turning phrase.

Same as when a streak of either B or P is about to happen, not really any different, IMO.


B---P--B--P--B--P--B--P--B--P--B--P--B--P--B
B---P--B--- -B-- P--- - -P--- ---- -- ---P--B---   B
B---P--B-- ---  ---- -- -P--- ---- ----  --- - - B
                                                           B

When you get to the above point, just about all the players would be wagering heavy for the 'cut' and getting deeper into the shoe with negative progression after negative progression after negative progression from the 2nd Banker on.  Unlike the old-school Bac players that would be counting on the streak/run with their reasoning being, the 4th Banker with no previous runs past 3 repeats. 



B--P---B--P--B---P---B---P--B-P---B--P---B--P-B
B--P---B---  -B---P--- ---     -- --P-   ----P---B--- -B
B--P---B--- ----  ---  ---- - ---- ---P---  ---- ----B
                                                                B
                                                                B
                                                                B B B B B B B B T B


The score board has done the very same thing to baccarat!  No difference.  That is why it is there.  It is a complicated thing, you just ca not say I will wager this or that for the obvious reasons.  Then again, on the other hand, you will only hurt yourself when you say, "I will wager this way because the other way is the way the casino is counting on the money wagering".  If you focus on the board it will play games with you.  It will prove to be rationale and then irrational, then predictable and then it will be the total opposite so clear you will actually blame yourself for not following it. 

Tangible/Intangible:  Intangible items effecting your play; Illusions, Perceptions, Influences and Frame-of-Mind.  Tangible items effecting your play; Diminishing Probability, Regression to the Means, Sections, Turning Points, Positive Progressions, Negative Progressions, Plateaus, 1 + 4 Side Wagers, Situation Awareness and Money Management Systems. 

There are plenty of them.  They all in one way or another effect your decision making ability while wagering.  If you do not think so, you better take a second look into them all.  The game of baccarat is much more than merely looking at the score board and figuring 'such and such' will happen because of 'so and so', etc.  And that is how the intangibles will come up and haunt you forcing the majority of the players into 'forced rapid wagering' to recover their funds lost or a clouded and unfocused state of mind causing the player not to make the easiest and most rational decisions. 

As much as some people write about the game of baccarat, is so easily beatable by merely figuring out what is due to come up on the score board and if they fail, they have convinced themselves all they need to do is enter into a negative progression wagering attack and they will recoup all their lost funds plus one unit.  In a perfect world of gambling that is slanted towards the player that, might be possible but it is wishful thinking and one or both will eat you up---the mathematics or the tangible/intangible items that are there whether you like it or not

Quote from: vrsedge on May 19, 2017, 10:26:57 AM
Hello alrelax,
sorry but didn't get your question, please specify your point. Thanks and nice day
Petr

Here is the question:

Do you get satisfaction out of helping your fellow man? 

Do you feel compelled to give something back to the community?

Quote from: vrsedge on May 17, 2017, 06:48:56 PM
I'd like to mention that selling is not my major goal. I am looking for interesting discussions with the members and experience exchange about roulette systems. If someone decides to purchase my App or system, fine, but it is not my major focus.

In that case, can you please answer the following question:

Do you actually enjoy helping your fellow man and gambler?  You know--as in giving a little something back.

I didn't look at the website and probably will not?

But I will interject as a member of this board and a friend of Vic's.

Things only turn out to be a 'scam' when they do not perform and/or produce as they are supposed to if the person whom purchased it or engaged the provider to preform the service or provide the product failed to deliver the product or the results within the set boundaries as determined by the law. 

Even law enforcement does not get involved from the on-set when advertisements appear, Ponzi schemes, false offerings and all the other titles and labels of criminal or civil actions, etc.  Once there are substantiated cases/complaints with proof of failure or 'rip-off'--then the legal system can take its criminal and/or civil actions according to their prosecuting attorney and the law. 

The very best 'scams' and 'fraudulent offerings', are usually the best laid-out, the most complicated and the ones that have great thoughts--devotion--dedication and brilliant 'bling' added to them.  They also have another item that so many overlook.  And that is usually something along the lines of, 'open for interpretation'.  Meaning, "Oh you misunderstood--I told you that you 'might' profit as much as 40% of your investment within 1 year, not--you will profit 40%'. 

Good job.......

Quote from: ADulay on May 02, 2017, 05:59:12 PM

And if they're rigging the shoe so that the wagers on the most money are losing, I'd really like to know that one.

AD

Yes!  And at times it does seem that way and yet--at others (an equal amount or more??) that big money wins.  IMO--it seems we all dwell on and remember quite vividly those times when say some goes table max and every one is table min or close to it and the guy wagering the $10 or $25 wins. 

But, I have been at winning tables when the dealer had to pay in larger demonization chips and take back (say there was 4,900.00 out there in green and black) and the dealer would pay in purple and chocolate and take all the green and black, etc., until she got a fill that was being rushed.  Just most of the time the players give it back and don't take all the dealers bank in a short period of time, but it does happen. 

But, seriously in all reality there is nothing the shoe can produce that would guarantee the players lose, no matter how much they wager.  Since there is no optional draws or player/dealer generated optional anything--and since the player can wager on either side, there is no way a shoe can be set up to 'cheat' a player, maybe some far fetched theory about a continuous shuffled shoe with the card reader and motherboard fallacy within the shufflers, etc., however it is not a continuous shuffled shoe.

I have sat down countless times and after numerous losing hands, I see someone winning.  I go with them and they lose.  I wait out and they win the next 4 hands, I go with them and they lose.  I wait out and they win once again.  I mean every single time I go with them-they lose.  And this is for a period of 10-15 times, not once or twice or three or even four times.  It happens. And when I was wagering I might be $100 on my thinking and they are opposite me with $500 or $1,000 or more. 

I don't know about you, but I definitely remember my losses and those times when I won really good and then gave it all back rather than the times I win and it is not record setting, etc.