Vic, we seriously need an Edit, and Edit should stay for the O.P. for at least 1 hour, if you are seeking to do away with posters deleting their posts. 

I have done it before as well, mostly for the 'argument factor' when a person is relentless or a few gang up, I rather just pull down what I said no matter what it was.  Trying to keep the peace, etc.  I understand what you want due to the roulette posting 'holy grail' scenario, but there needs to be a happy medium.

I do wholeheartedly believe and would strongly urge that posters in their own Blogs have ultimate control over anything and everything posted!!  In other public sections, you need to at least give a poster 1 hour or so to Edit.  This is mostly due to the fact of defaults and malfunctions of this board in posting.  It gets very difficult most times. 

Yes, and then when the board times out or whatever it is called, I lose it all, before--somehow with the EDIT feature still in place, 99.9% of the times, my office computer would hold everything I wrote and I was good to go with starting another new post reply, NOT NOW!

Posting and then proof reading and catching mistakes or additions needed are now of course impossible.

I understand the reinvention and taking away the delete/remove end of it, but everything else is getting 25 to 50 times harder to post!!!!

Seriously. But hey, all I can do is state reasons and suggest. 

I said, I would generally just skip them from a while back on.  Well today there was a Yahoo News Story and I was really interested in it.  I clicked on it and it turned out to be one of those that you read a short paragraph and then click next and boom---horizontal loading.  I went through like 10 -15 pages or so and each one take a bit to load for the 90% ads vs. less than 10% of the page for the continuing story, etc.  Never got to the info I wanted, scratched it, what a royal pain.  Seriously.

Wonder what Simi Valley late teen came up with that one, while drinking his Red Bull and eating gummy worms or something.

What is up with Mini-Vans??  Every time I turn around and read something or hear about a criminal, assault or scam--it almost always involves the people getting away or last seen in a Mini-Van???

Heck, back in high school we had full sized vans, like Chevy C30's I thing they were.  We stripped them out and put shag carpeting in them, built a platform for a mattress up in the read over the wheel wells.  1/4" plywood on the sides and paneling over that.  Painted the side windows out if any and the rear windows inside as well, black.  The colors inside was Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin blues-greens-purples and hazy yellows.  We had a been bag or two and a cooler in the main part.  A couple battery powered lamps attached to the paneling in the corners.  That was the 70;s and early 80's.  We had fun in our vans, after high school we took our dirt bikes out, on weekends we were at the motocross race tracks.  Who the heck stayed in motels, we had full sized vans! 

Such memories. 

When do we get the EDIT feature back, because without it is a royal pain the rear!!!!! BIG TIME!!!  Vic?

At times we throw out music to describe how we feel or enlighten the mood.  I have many times engaged in singing a few lyrics here and there at the bac table.  But this is the official song of this thread and everything related to it, hands down 1,000% !!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8StG4fFWHqg

I don't play roulette more than a few chips on a few spins once in awhile.  But I was in on a casino training type of seminar with a major casino a few years back, while accompanying a family member that worked for the property.  Their expert that trains on scams and collusions and all that, touched on the subject of roulette dealer/player collusions and systematic type of spinning from an experienced dealer.  It was vague and not a huge concern outside of the cheating arena that is.  He did say, it was extremely difficult for a dealer to make a ball land in any certain section of a few numbers if the proper ball weight and required power of the spin was employed. 

Don't know if that helps, but maybe fuel for thought? 

Quote from: wannawin on March 07, 2017, 06:24:09 PM
I have been reading the madness topic and it shows that it is cut and lacks the initial information. I found an original version in rouletteforum.cc published on the EC Method thread. The truth is that I am curious now to see how many spins it holds although we know that EC methods are doomed to fail.

I do not understand why delete the original posts  . In my logic a system is published because the author wants others to evaluate it or else to protect a system it should never be published anywhere . The safest place to protect a method is in the author's head.

About the best response/statement I seen on this post!  Love it! 

I read most of them and it totally amazes me how many people here actually thought that was the holy-grail and not posted any where else.  I have my suspensions who that really was, but for now will keep that to myself. 

Probably the best one within the thread was, pulling the posts down for fear the casinos would catch on and I can only assume the OP or the others convinced him that their secret holy-grail system would be jeopardized.  The whole thing reminded me of the 'Sonic Late Night Drive Inn' fast food commercial.  Where the 2 guys bicker, disagree and agreement sometimes on the food and things they are discussing.  LOL, the thread that started all this was about on the exact same level. 

You know, I am not really a roulette guy, but I am interested in gambling and this board.  I throw a couple chips or so on Red or Black or Even or Odd if I won good on Bac and on the way tot he cashiers cage if there is a dealer I know on Roulette.  I usually press and press and press and if I win 3 to 5 times I will add it to my winnings.  If not, no big deal.  I feel nothing as I play it and there is not anything for me in it more than a carnival type of game.  But the thread gave me some laughs and like I said, the remembrance of those 2 guys in the 'Sonic' commercial.  Be Good!

 Yes sir, MIT is at it again.  First with the blackjack card counting team and now with computers that will predict the future.  No doubt (and I do have it on solid intelligence) that they almost have the rhythms done to predict where that little white ball will land!!! 

Absolutely and right-on! 

http://news.mit.edu/2016/teaching-machines-to-predict-the-future-0621

Come on guys, time to pump it up.

After all, where can you find such members with all the definitive answers and judgments into gambling??  Where can you find members with roulette holy-grails that will definitely knock your socks off with knowledge and then suddenly removes them because of fear the casinos will find out and remove all the roulette tables??  Where can you find a group of people that we have here??

Vic needs some support, come on!

I am what I am!  In fact, I agree (imagine that with you to a point) and I will post what the Mayo Clinic diagnosed about me recently:

"Beyond The Rules Narcissist Including antisocial (ASPD) features. This type of narcissist thinks that because they are so superior to everyone they do not have to follow the rules like most people and therefore show behavior included in the ICD for dissocial personality disorder and behavior, included in the DSM for antisocial personality disorder".   (from doctors at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN)

You know they are correct, and so what???  Yes, I got mad at a dealer playing baccarat as I posted, I picked up the shoe and throw it in the middle of the pit---plain and simple.

I have yelled at and physically took off my PPE and thrown the pieces of them on the ground at a State Police Officer continually bothering me on the interstate performing a dangerous technical procedure related to my business.  I was arrested and brought to State Patrol Barracks where the officer was chastised and disciplined for his wrongful decision by the commander of the troop.  I don't take stuff from unintelligent people or people that elect themselves as professional and the ultimate authority, etc.

Year back, a large city official in conjunction attempted to set me up for criminal corruption charges.  I turned the tables and went to federal law enforcement and we put the individual away for what he was attempting.  The punch line, he was affiliated with a competing 'illegal' business that stood to profit enormously once I was removed from the industry there. 

The list goes on, believe me, lengthy.

I am what I am and I have been there and done most everything, literally.  Right or wrong, successful and sometimes unsuccessfully.  I can't change it all and I would not really want to.  I have a keen sense of right and wrong and I do things to suit those around me as well as myself, depends who those are around me if I take them into consideration or not. I express myself for many reasons, some are shellfish--yes, but when they are they fuel me.  And yet at other times, times you may not know about, I assist others when no one else will or lack the funds or know how to.  I have life long given to The Shriners Hospitals for Children with emphasis on the one in Boston, the children's burn center.  I have numerous times held fund raisers and given platforms with money, facilities and products for my own thing on local levels of various cities called, "Caring for Children" where I organize the distribution of backpacks stuffed with year long school supplies and other school necessities.  Also, snacks and little toys of educational use.  100% non profit and extremely time consuming and costly.  Hell with the little local publicity and pats on the back, the children's faces when they receive their backpacks and turn to their mom's or dad's and say, 'Look I have the stuff the other kids have now" is my shellfish and narcissistic reward!!! 

So make me out to be the ugliest and dumbest gambler and member on the board, it's all good!  Seriously.  You know, when I was at Prince's house last week with my little 4 year old, I was singing the words to "When Doves Cry" and "1999" and my little boy grabbed my hand and tries his best.  My experiences fuel me and when I sit at a table of baccarat and see a player eyeballing another one and then wagering against him, I save something for that player that might or might not come in the shoe or the night.  And that is when I have a huge hand out there and he does the same thing to me and says a few words to another in a language I know part of (like Viet or Laos or Cambodian) and when he return a Natural 8 and snickers and then I slam down a Natural 9 right in front of him instead of the dealer.  Call it what you want, to me that is pay-back and well deserved, but then again I am a narcissist from NYC and I am Italian.   

I don't stand by and eat crow---on the board or off the board and that is the huge difference between myself and most others.  Like I said before, if you don't like an author or a member, don't read it, skip it--save your time. 

Vic, we need the edit feature back ASAP with 'remove' button, PLEASE! 

I went against what I said in attempt to reason but with you.....I will say it....go join Moguliztisu or whatever his name is at your local 7/11.

Good luck and may your multi million dollar fortune continue with your expert gambling and schooling!!!!

Quote from: Gizmotron on March 07, 2017, 11:10:21 AM
Anyway, the author says that patterns are predictable in the section title. He goes on to say there is no predictability based on probability, "Consequently each number has the same chance of selection in the next game..."


Probability will not tell you when a coincidence will occur and how long it will last. Therefore probability has nothing to do with prediction. Nobody can tell you how long a coincidence will last after it has begun.


ref; Mason Malmuth; "Gambling Theory and Other Topics" ; 2004


That is basically correct.  And it holds true for short term as I tried in other posts to define as 'Sections' with 'Turning Points', they almost never last half shoes or whole shoes, almost never, extremely rare as I also wrote about.  But once again, events, not numbers.  Numbers repeating themselves is also rare or we can also say--much rarer than events.  Events are clearly defined repetitively.  Numbers repeating themselves or causing events or subjective to a much rarer, series that is extremely hard to follow or predict as you say. 


Let me make it perfectly clear. Coincidences exist and they can be exploited as if they were predictable, even though they are never predictable.

You don't have to agree.

But he is correct about numbers.  Not events. 

Two huge and different areas of concern.  Numbers and Events.