So, I am wondering, is this only for Gambling in your mind or does it apply to *Working, *Sex, *Eating, *Bowling, *Model Building, *Sporting Games, *Garage Sales, *Attempting to Set Records, etc., etc., and so on?

Jokes, a twist here and there, stretching the truth  and all those things, in gist and good-hearted nature are fine.

When someone slanders and lies it's a whole other ballgame.  Everything I posted (jokes or pretense/pretext post or two aside) was factual, truthful and the experiences I have realized over the years. 

I have no position here and no status, never claimed any and never sought any.  It was merely the one and a couple of others that apparently took offense and found the need to chastise and attempt to discredit (?) if that's the right word, my adventure (misadventures) with Paypal.

Quote from: Rolex-Watch on November 22, 2014, 05:07:23 AM
  I just found it ironic/funny that you never did (due to paypal or otherwise), then you finally donate $20.

Pssst, I don't have a problem, this isn't my board and don't twist what I write.

Another outright lie-made up dribble and rubbish written by someone that has a driven need to state things that are completely false.

For all to see and witness, A 100% LIE.

The truth>>> I donated prior to this $50.00 pledge that is in the works to complete and for those of you who have not followed this absolutely absurd drama-I do not maintain an active Paypal account with funds in it.  I choose to pledge and then fund an inactive account with a source of 'non-instant' (i.e. prepaid card) funding source that takes several days/a week or so to become credited to use. 

I DID NOT twist your words, I merely highlighted the lie you choose to spread about me for the record, thank you.

My final say-so on this unintelligent subject you blown up is that, the correlation between lifestyle, material things, employment-business and personal assets has absolutely zip to do with donating to a on-line community I have no financial or ownership or partnership stake in.  Couple with it being a non essential service or a non profit group and a hundred other things.

Also your statement about me never donating before is also False-Slander-Erroneous and simple dribble form your mouth. 

I ask you please do not comment on me or anything I wrote on the board as you stir the pot without truthful facts or knowledge.  You sir, are the reason they have private clubs and organizations with memberships and references and voting to allow in or disregard.  There is no need to attempt top match public service, private donations, background, professional ties or concern for others with me as I DO NOT WITH YOU!   

Quote from: Rolex-Watch on November 21, 2014, 11:47:42 PM
Vic, this a gambling site is it not?


Incidently I found it rather weird that when a member makes a donation, not only does he feel the need to mention it, after which proceeds to make a thread about it (oh look at me), besides being $30 shy of what the $50,000 ~ $10000k per buyin member promised, so hopefully that will be forthcoming also.  ?

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Really? 

What is your problem? Seriously what is it???  I make zero $$$  from this board and do not have or market any silly system whatsoever.  All I did was throw out there the possibility of having a gambling/system/product/book consumer end to a trade show that I am part of promoting at a strip casino property in Vegas but with the lack of interest from anyone or anyone having a viable marketable product here, I choose to pull down the inquiry and concentrate only on the tourist end of it with local Vegas businesses. 

Other than that, I choose to step up to the plate and put some small money into 'YOUR' board that your guys seem so attached to. 

You are the one that accused me of welching and being a slug, not I about you.  SO tell me, what is your damned problem??

And the ONLY reason I posted publically about fulfilling my end of my 'promise' was the garbage and lie you posted, PERIOD.  You got on here and made me look like a piece of Cr*p, you made something up, put it out there and slandered.  Plain and simple.  Now you turn it around and still make me look that way.  All I did was put a little bit of my own bucks in this and that's it. 

You remind me of the drunk that had his car impounded last weekend by my sister towing company.  He got out of jail this morning and came to get his car.  When he got to the office he started yelling and screaming and saying we had no right to have his car and he demanded it back without paying the $375.00 fees.  He was asked politely to leave because of his attitude.  He refused.  Law enforcement arrived and he was trespassed warned.  He left and the police left.  A couple hours later he returns.  Police arrived back once again. Handcuffs went on him and two new crimes he was charged with.  A 30 day hold went on his vehicle as well for evidence.  $35.00 a day storage when he comes back in 31 plus days.

Also----I do not use Paypal to gamble, I bank wire the funds to the property prior to arrival.  Because Vic needed funds to secure the new board and I pledged those funds, all this started.  I don't live on Paypal, I don't gamble on-line, I work 18 hours at a min per day--if not more.  I am in a rural part of the country/state, I don't have access to instant things like metro areas do and things take me a few extra days. 

So I ask again, what is your problem?



   

Here it is even simpler.  My PayPal was exhausted, I had to transfer funds into from a bank account.  No matter if a bank account is linked or not, it takes a few days.  In my case I had to add another bank account to fund my Payapl.  Where I reside there is no place to buy a prepaid card at a store to add instant funds to Paypal. 

what's YOUR PROBLEM?

Quote from: Rolex-Watch on November 20, 2014, 08:37:30 PM
WHAT??  So you donated $50 via a paypal account which has no bank account linked to it??

Talk about a welshing on a gift!!!

You have NO IDEA what you are accusing me of and NO RIGHT to say what you did.  No one on my end so called 'welched' on a donation promise. 

I have no idea why I am explaining this to a nothing person, but- my Paypal account had a out of state bank where I used to live and cannot deposit cash into at the moment and I was in the process of adding another bank account and Paypal has to make a couple small deposits and verify, etc.  I am waiting for the verification and load to the account.  Why am I even explaining this to you???   Money already sent to Vic.

OH BTW, I sold on Ebay for years and NEVER had a bank account linked to it.  I had a Paypal debit card to withdraw from an ATM if I wanted to.  Anyone can have a Paypal account with an email address only, check it out. 

Mine is 'pending' according to PAYPAL I can only assume cause I had to transfer some funds from a bank account to PayPal and that takes a few days, that is very common and the short waiting time is always quoted at 3-5 days according top PayPal.  This is the first breather I had since Sat night as the weather here has been snow, ice, high winds and lots of work on he interstate.  My guys could not handle it all.  Rolled over and jacked knife semi tractor trailers with haz mat spill releases, plenty of them.  The wind chill has been below zero, dangerously cold for us working outside.  So, I am sure you will receive the funds this week, will let you know when the available balance is there to fund it.  Thanks, Alrelax.

"If you can't afford to lose.....stay out of the casino".

On another note, "Book Smart".  Oh my lord!  Book smart and similar is great, but it sucks in the real world.  I have meet many that were so technically smart and 'know it all's', but their application ratio of that data was zero.

To me it's nice to know some stats and know some names, but I rather have the practical experience as it relates to whatever subject/field I am engaged in, no matter what it is. 

There is a distinct and separate compartment for 'book knowledge' and another very real one for  'experience/application'.

Quote from: Bayes on November 15, 2014, 02:04:10 PM
If it's any consolation, you probably make more money than me.

Hope that helps, and please don't call me.

And by the way, in case you hadn't noticed, here I am on a gambling forum claiming that it's possible to win at roulette. That alone would qualify me as a retard in most people's eyes. 

There is absolutely no competition here in anything.  I praised you previously until you came onto my threads and said what you did.  You mention money, money has nothing to do with it.

Teachers and professors of anything don't impress me, they are merely an extension to verbalize what someone wrote or thought was accurate and the way something might be or what they believe 'should be'.  What impresses me are the people in the trenches-- whatever it is including gambling, career, life, etc., in general that excel at what they do. 

Theories and statistics are someone's basis that might or might not be true or might or might not apply to your situation, casino play or otherwise.  I challenge authority and question everything.

Maybe it has something to do with where and how I grew up, which was in South Florida in the 70's to mid 80's where 2/3rd's or better of the government was corrupt and involved in wrong doing. To add to anti government and anti authority sentiments I spend the remainder of the 80's in NYC.

If you don't know what I am talking about watch the documentary "Cocaine Cowboys", you will get a small taste of what I am referring to.   You see most people are taught to respect the government, highly influential people and the police.  But what I witnessed first hand taught me to challenge and question everything and everybody. 

Quote from: Albalaha on November 15, 2014, 04:05:54 AM
In my humble opinion, there are primarily four classes of gamblers:

1. Casual visitors: They come in a casino as they go to amusement park or a club or a disco, once in a while. They know they have lesser chances to win anything than lose. It is merely a kind of leisure activity for them. They move around, play a little and go away home usually with a small loss of money. They often come with regular ones as friend or family. They have interest in gambling but are too scared to play large.
2. Regulars: They may have started as a casual player but now they want to take "revenge" against their prior losses. Mostly they do not have any strategy and they either bet on impulse or on their superstitious choices. They are seen in casino on a regular basis.

3. Semi skilled: They know law of third, martingale, fibo, labby, positive progression, negative progressions, EV and various other terms and fallacies spread out by various gambling books, websites, forums, blogs etc. Even if they have not read all these they understand this by their experience. A few of them even test their "favorite systems" to win in a few sample sessions. They have a misconception that they are far better than casual visitors or regulars and have thereby better chance to win too. They win and lose sessions and ultimately remain at a net loss.

4. Skilled: They know how to play and maximize their chances of winning. They do not win every time but in overall, they are always winners. A cut above the rest.

Percentage of all classes of gamblers, in my observation:

Casual Visitors: Not less than 40% of total players

Regulars: Not less than 50%

Semi Skilled: Not less than 9%

Skilled: No

t more than 1 in a thousand

LOL, Are there even Disco's left??? Growing up in NYC and South Florida I was disco crazy!  The days of Saturday Night Fever!   Okay on to gambling:

We don't even need to talk about the 'Casual Gambler' that's a comparison to a dirt bike racer for the first time.

Regulars, some have smarts and some don't, depends on their background and what their common sense level is, but true they are close to the Casual Gambler.

Semi Skilled, personally I would group all those into the 'Regulars' as well.

IMHO, there are skilled players, however, I can't see how you can classify them as 'always winners', etc.  Maybe if they only play the beatable games and not the unbeatable ones. But, again IMHO,  I think even skilled players have the tendency to lose.  I think you are a bit off on skilled players, but no way to accurately measure this. 

Ask 'Bayes' he seems to be an expert about those as evident in his post in my Blog.   

Vic, can we have a section for 'Voo-Doo', 'Magical Wishes', 'Karma' and 'Luck' statistical analysis???

Quote from: VLS on November 14, 2014, 11:05:26 PM
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Thank you!!!!

This also sponsors a fresh forum re-install for us to enjoy clean sources and get rid of bugs in this forum too.

Bright news guys. You're awesome!

I'm not awesome, I am just an unintelligent, karma wishing-rabbit's foot-voodoo preaching, uninformed and overpopulated gambler on the board, just ask Bayes!  He is the awesome Mathematician that the board needs more of!