I have some great great examples from last night of some shoes with actual pictures of the scoreboard. 

I will post them when I get a chance to make the notes and do some editing. I'll try to get it done tonight.

You need to be acclimated to Drawdowns and accept they are a part of almost every session.

Drawdown what is it?

It is technically the amount of money you lose before you start drawing of profit from your buy in.

First.  When does it occur. It can be in the very beginning of your session or it can equally be in the middle or towards the end, when you are on your last few wagers before exhausting your buy in money.  Drawdown can happen at any time. The only time it will not happen is if you win in the very beginning and keep winning and cash out never losing any of your buy in.

Second.  In my opinion it should only be viewed with the amount in front of you. Not collectively from previous sessions or running tallies, etc.

Third. Again in my opinion the Drawdown must not be viewed and compared to previous Drawdowns either. The presentments are different and there is no reason to compare. You have to remember Drawdowns fluctuate and will always fluctuate with no rhythm and no reason to attempt to define anything more than what I just said. They are completely random and will always be random.

Fourth.  Emotions, pressure and other feelings will be triggered within yourself that will not and cannot be avoided. You tell yourself you will not let the pressure and anything else get to you, but it will. The larger the Drawdown the greater and more intense those feelings will be. Be ultra conscious of that, stop getting sucked in.

Fifth.  Do not confuse Drawdown with Stop-Loss. Many will fail to see the difference but there really is. Drawdown is an undetermined, unplanned amount of money that will be lost before you realize a profit that is within your horizon of, "winning this session and it is time for me to stop", thought and belief. A better way to describe it is, you realize your buy in is your risk money and you will play until you win or lose and you are not doing what some people do, which is ridiculously sit down say with $1,000 and if you lose $300 you're done. Or if you lose say 3 or 5 wagers, your done, etc.  All that does is put an undue amount of pressure on you, because you have money there you are saying you're not willing to wager and you cannot wager and you have to make money on a certain percentage of it. Trust me it's a huge negative in sitting down at the table.

Stop Loss is simply like I said, a set amount of money if you lose out of your buy in money you will stop playing, no leeway, no questions asked.  That is if it's truly a set Stop Loss amount.

Realize that there will be fluctuating Drawdowns at any time prior to winning a decent amount of money or getting a profit, that you had in mind and one that you have to risk on a continual basis. Allow it to be so and you will take off a lot of pressure and a lot of frustration from your frame of mind in handling your money at the table.

People normally render the factual as absolute, because of their own failure to understand and decipher the positiveness and negativity of randomness and what the real meaning of it is, as well as what it is not.

You have to understand what are just beliefs such as your emotions and your thoughts, and the various types of behavior generated by those two. They will perpetuate themselves to a projection of your decisions outside of your  consciousness in most cases.

It will absolutely feel real to generate real behavior and not generating behavior based on a fact. It is in all essence a prescription that parallels reality but in most cases when gambling, that is a suspended state that we allow our emotions and thoughts to overcome and send us sideways.  Therefore you fail to allow yourself the proper frame of mind to benefit your wagering decisions.

We need a connection to a source and let the information flow into our decision-making process and for each of us, that is not going to be the same. Do not get caught up as most do with all the 'factual information' out there from the highest majority of the people writing on the forums who state that they are translating factual events into a mechanical type of system or schedule. It cannot be accomplished in any manner. In my opinion that comes from years of experience, that will only throw you sideways like I said from really allowing yourself to understand and develop rock-solid wagering techniques and a better understanding of the presentments coming from the shoe.

At most I would recommend viewing information as a channel. And use that channel as one of many in order to find successful wagers that can benefit yourself.

You cannot perceive what you do not understand. And my opinion is, that you will never understand or be able to transfer into your frame of mind and thought process, countless factual information/material that will translate itself into successful scheduled triggers for yourself. 

And most of all, you have the freedom to choose positivness, negativity or neutralism and how to apply each of those three in the countless situations that table games present within its presentments.

Alrelax.

Two things come instantly to mind reference your last few posts.  Copy and pasted from a post of mine.

1)   First and foremost, anything and everything can continue or cease within a shoe;

5)  You cannot adjust your emotional level on the better and larger wins (and losses) as easy as you might believe you can. This is super important and that emotional level will send you into another realm of belief, that you should not be in and one you cannot understand at the table.

Alrelax.

Part 2:   https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUefpM48EgM

Good show on the side of casino related info/entertainment.  Enjoy.   

Part 1:  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6SRQAn08oFE

As ASYM said in the post above:
"Baccarat is not a game of math results, baccarat is a game of card distributions favoring this or that."

I add:

Exactly.  And once a player is well acclimated with the game of baccarat, he can generally find that those very distributions are contained within Sections.

Problem continually arising is the change of the presentments or the extended continuance no one believes is actually happening. 

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on July 04, 2021, 11:07:01 PM
Hint: streaks of any lenght are going to our favor no matter what and for that matter most part of chopping situations or short patterns will go to our favor too.
It's a strict math based evaluation plan challenging sym spots vs asym spots.

as.

Certain things will happen and will not happen, no matter what. 

If its being presented, wager on it.  If not, don't  wager on it. 

There is a huge difference in what I am saying versus trying to change the presentments. 

Alrelax

And summarizing in layman's terms/actual brick and mortar casino players results, the drawdown will kill most players buy-ins and/or bankrolls before their opportunities are presented for those 'spots' you so technically define in the above post.

Please do not take it the wrong way, I'm not criticizing your writing and your comments, I'm just making an observation to stress the drawdown, the patience required, the frame of mind and everything else that is mandatory in trying to catch all of this, which I've learned over the years.

However as I talked about and write about there are opportunities and entrance points that I repeatedly remind everybody of, called SECTIONS WITHIN SECTIONS and the key to really profiting and preserving your bankroll and minimizing risk with your buy ins, is being extremely conscious and remaining neutral in your frame-of--mind when you are playing. Not easy to do, not at all.

Quote from: KungFuBac on June 23, 2021, 06:09:07 AM
Thx AsymBacGuy--good thread/ post.

Your sentence:
"... An average card distribution will more likely produce clustering win situations. The more we are considering winning clusters by strict parameters, higher will be the probability to win.  ..."

Can you clarify the phrase in bold? or give an example. thx



Continued Success,

"For that matter, many high end casinos know very well the baccarat vulnerability, they'll simply hope that players like to get huge winnings within too short intervals or liking to wager the insourmountable negative edge apllied to side bets.

Simple back to back outcomes and complex back to back outcomes"



My Response:

I've tried to detail it out and show pictures of it and mark up scoring boards repetitively. What I entitled and discussed; SECTIONS WITHIN SECTIONS. Small sections can be extremely profitable however, it will play with our minds and we (generally) attempt/try to keep following and not cash out or go back to a neutral position, which we MUST do to be extremely profitable.

It all boils down to, our frame-of-mind.

ALRELAX

 

Happy Father's Day to all with kids.

Stay safe and be well.

Always, Alrelax
Administrator/Board Owner

Just signed on, looks great!   

A  Section

The Power of a Section

It does not do anything for you to figure out what the shoe is going to present, if you do not wager on it. What so many write about, what so many advise people about and how to wager after so many 'no bet' losses or wins, etc. All that will do is add stress, pressure, frustration and most of all--false sense of confidence to your game.

Waiting to wager for a certain trigger or event to come about with live chips will only confuse you.  Do not do it, in my opinion.

What I see at the tables are the highest majority of the players attempting to figure out what is going to occur because of what has happened and why it cannot continue rather than what is happening and capitalizing on it.  And the most successful way that I have found is extremely aggressive within small sections of a shoe, which I define a shoe to have 3 to 5 sections normally. 

Those are two distinct and very key series of events within a section. Once you figure it out and understand the difference, you might be able to see which is better to wager on, what you want to happen or what is happening. Outside of a section, they do not continue or repeat themselves with any type repetitive presentments.

Once again we will be going down for a few days this week, May 17th, to make the conversion back to a mobile-friendly website now that we have the bugs worked out of it.

Thanks for your patience, Alrelax, Admin and Board Owner.

Most everyone is always looking at what to bet in a repeating or scheduled automatic mode. In other words when something happens then I will bet, etc.  I got news for you, it will never work out in your favor on a regular basis, shoe after shoe, session after session, never ever, not even the highest percentage of the times. And that right there is most people's downfall---100%!

Winning hand after hand, catching the streaks, catching the chops, catching the cuts, catching the doubles, catching anything repeating in any way. Two different and distinct things/events.  Trying to find that system or that trigger that can always be employed in the long-term is exactly what the casino wants you to do therefore the last twenty years they've put plenty of scoreboards and still supply everybody with cards and pens and anything else they can think of, to keep the school of thought going if you keep score you can make money.

So the thing that I don't understand is, why so many people are wagering for what they want it to be rather than wagering for what it is?

Most everyone is missing what is really important about the game including bankrolls and buy-ins and money management methods that truly manage your money if you win.

There are no absolutes, none. And so many players will be completely oblivious to that fact at the table. Maybe off the table they know and recognize it, but on the live table with real money they do not. Besides no absolutes at table as to what will happen, another huge downfall and contributor on the shoulders of players are the following two items:

1)  The stop loss and stop win thinking most all make or seek out what will be to their advantage. But for numerous reasons winds up backfiring and hurting them.

2)  Buy in and Bank Roll. You need to view your buy-in as risk capital, same as any business--inventory investment, time without sales, tangible losses mounting, unplanned for expenses, clients not paying, unexpected rises in expenses, all kinds of things. Your buy-in should be only a portion of your bankroll. Only one buy-in per session, if you win you employ money management methods and continue with the money management methods defining your session length as well as what is available for wagering and the style of your wagering.

Stop loss and stop win set numbers will almost always be a cause of emotional and psychological negativity to whatever it is you are attempting to grind out or you have already won.

Nobody's approach is true gospel to every session for a positive turn out or the ability to recover losses.

Ice is cold to the touch. Always has been and always will be, will never change. Do a 10 million dollar study and extensive research for years and years. It will not change. The same as the randomness, the great amount of uncountable reasons that variance and unknown presentments will always come out of that baccarat shoe, forever and ever.