https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BHPM83AMBmg

Here is what a certain circle of those Full-time Forum Fighters, as they've been labeled by another member calls them say:

"I don't read all of your long-winded postings I do admit".  And then they go into the explanation which is kind of long-winded itself most of the time, explaining how they only read the first few sentences and the last few sentences of many member's posts and how they've labeled them "fake---erroneous---trolls---", etc., etc,, so on and so forth and then they also will add, they're full of "..........".

And I guess the kicker to myself is they continuously will follow that person that they so greatly belittled and humiliated in order to boast themselves amongst their own circle of friends, which of course are the Full-time Forum Fighters as they've been labeled.  Then they will follow them continuously and post and repost and repost against the people that they obviously so vehemently disagree with, called out and detest. 

Personally if I don't find someone interesting or I cannot see anything in their subject matter that will add to my knowledge, experience or interest factors, I skip them the next time I see their name or their material. I don't care if it's on an internet Forum or any other type of media. You know same thing with television shows, why would you waste your valuable time with something that you disagree with, doesn't do anything for you, you labeled as worthless and you have no interest in?  Seriously dude!

I've said it before and I haven't said it for a while, but I'm going to say it again. I wonder if those people go into a Barnes & Noble with a notepad and pen and start looking at countless books on a Saturday or Sunday and the ones that they don't like or agree with, they copy down the author's name and the publisher's name and address then they start writing letters and emails with complaints about the subject in the books and the author?

Because you know in all essence it is damn near the same thing!  Gotta absolutely love the Full-time Forum Fighters!

Series: Learning to wager to favor yourself

DRAWDOWN

Drawdown.  What is it?  It is technically the amount of money you lose before you start drawing a profit from your buy-in.

First.  When does it occur? It can be in the very beginning of your session or can equally be at the end when you are on your last few wagers before exhausting your buyin. It can be anywhere in the middle as well.

Second.  In my opinion should be calculated with only the amount in front of you. Not collectively from prior sessions or running tallies, etc.  Just concentrate in front of you and don't cloud your concentration or add to your frustration levels.

Third.  Again in my opinion the drawdown must not be viewed and compared to previous drawdowns. The presentments of each and every shoe are different and there is no reason to compare. You have to remember drawdowns fluctuate and will always fluctuate, no rhyme no reason, to define and attempt to figure out when it's going to happen or how come it happens will only cloud your thought process and frame of mind.

Fourth.  Emotions, pressure and other feelings will be triggered within yourself that will not and cannot be avoided. The larger the drawdown the greater and more intense those inner feelings will be. Be ultra conscious of that. If you are, you will be curtailing getting sucked in. Once you get sucked in, you will pretty much lose your buy-in for that session.

Fifth.  Don't confuse drawdown with stop loss. Many will fail to see the difference but there really is. Drawdown is an undetermined and unplanned amount of money that will be lost before you realize a profit that is within your horizon of, 'winning the session and it is time for me to stop', thought and belief you religiously and wholeheartedly subscribe to that governs how you play. Stop loss is simply a set amount of money if you lose out of a buy-in, you will stop playing, no leeway and no questions. Stop loss is not figured into your playing protocol, while drawdown has to be viewed that way and planned for.  Because what you are actually doing if you do include drawdown into your buyin and protocol of playing, is you are combating great negativity that affects every player.

Remember:

It might not always be smooth.....no loss and repetitive winning.....

Just make it as painless and non-destructive as possible. Winners do lose.

Be smart.  Be totally conscious.  Stay in reality.  Realize what the game is and what can help you win.

How and when you win is for the most part up to you. Likewise how much you lose, is for the most part also up to you.

Quote from: KungFuBac on May 03, 2021, 07:26:44 PM
Hi Alrelax--thx for posting. We are looking forward to the play-by-play.
Did you continue playing after Section C? If so how did u wager? And if u did indeed wager Post-Sect C did u wager the same in (D) as u did in (C). Many thx.

I will post everything I need a few hours to write it and I will post as much play-by-play as I can recall which is most of it and what's unique about the shoe is there are definitive turning points that I can point out that we truly felt and that we were spot on numerous times and it reinforces a lot of what I have talked about in the past.


Cheers,kfb

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Wanted to download the pictures real quick and I will get to writing out what happened in a couple of days.   I'll give you my notes, this was a super fantastic shoe classic everything but everything contradicted each other from section A to section B to section C andcto section D. The randomness was drastic but it was very predictable in many ways, if you kept an open mind frame which most players do not do because they base what they bet on what they have seen or what they have not seen. In other words they want the shoe to meet their expectations not the other way around.

Will post details later.

The easy cleanup was in Section C and then in D.  In Section D,  2 F7s and the group of 4 Ties that were 2 natural 9-9 ties, 1 three card 9-9 tie and a 2 card player 7 to 2 card 0 banker with a 3rd card flop of a 7 for a tie, the hand before the 4th F7.

Quote from: KungFuBac on April 26, 2021, 03:47:25 AM
Hi Alrelax

re: your sentence  "...Except player will and does have a better chance to form more clumps and runs then Banker does..."

Can you give an example of what u mean by clumps. For example are you referencing outcomes such as : PPPbPPPbPPPP for a (10-2) P-dom clump?? or say: PPPPPPP b PPPPPPPP ,...etc where two long runs are back-to-back,   or are you referring to something else ?  None of the above?

Thx in advance

2s, 3s and 4s close together with single Bankers, maybe token double banker stuck in as well.  Could be longer than 4s, no restrictions on length, just telling you what I see most of the time. 

I remember to this day from the Atlantic City days I had back in the late 80's and the 90s there was this one guy that would sit there and bet table Max of $10,000 on two wagers and one of them was after there was a streak of seven or eight of more on one side, then cut he would bet the very next one on the same side that the streak was, like my example shows.

Example, say there was a streak of 10 players and then it fell off to the bank, his table Max wager would be back on the player for the following hand. More so with the players than the bankers because some reason right after Banker streaks so many times the player tries to catch up a bit.

And I remember that to this very day and most of the time and I mean the highest majority of the time after streak, it is that way like I said especially with the player side.

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3 F-7s:

Hand 12
Hand 39
Hand 61

After the 10 Players streak not a double Banker for some time. Almost everyone wagering heavy for that second Banker with all of the too often thought of, "it has to come out", being said out loud.

I got the picture of this at hand 74 and of the next seven hands out there were six more Naturals. Making the last eighteen hands having 14 Naturals as one of the ties was a natural eight versus a natural eight.

As well hand 10 was a Fortune 7 and I've said it many times, it's in my threads. I like the first 10 hands more than anything for the first Fortune 7.

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I love them 0123 ties when it's halfway through the shoe or even less, the consistency holds much more than it fades.  You're looking for a small section within a section. Whether it be chop-chop, ones and twos or a  streak for whatever and easily make money on anything if the consistency is the same!!!

Remember, you are not changing the shoe you are wagering with the presentments. You're never going to change them, no matter what your beliefs are.

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True MONEY-MANAGEMENT is rarely practiced by most baccarat players.

I can only imagine because as the wins come in, they are fully under the belief that they will continue and they get into another frame of mine that turns to Greed, Recouping Past Losses and being thoroughly convinced that whatever they just won can easily be multiplied by 10 times, 20 times, 50 times, etc., etc.

Then when a few losses start their mind-frames change once again. And that is to get back the win money that they so "stupidly" allowed to slip away.

Each player is so proud of their extreme intelligence, their experience, their knowledge and what's more, their egos are huge and of course they set themselves in overdrive to not only get their lost win money back they allowed to slip away, but a substantial profit as well.

Then as a few more losses mount the frustration level, the pressure and the stress over their buyin and bankroll becomes overwhelming. Hence, a vicious and ugly session once again.

Wins and losses will happen. Read and believe anything you want on the Internet or industry published  items for sale that convince you otherwise, but losses and losing time or bad luck or whatever it's called will catch up with you .  If you want to believe otherwise stop reading and just go play and do what you can do. The only way to hold your wins is with a REAL and PLAYER advantaged money management method, such as the one I refined, tested, proven and use. Otherwise all everybody will do is wind up giving back their wins along with their buy-ins and or bankrolls.

People say that Money Management is 'up and pull' and 'progressions' or 'flat betting' or 'loss stops' and 'win stops' techniques, etc., etc. They are not, not on there on anyway, those are wagering techniques plain and simple. Money Management is a mechanical system that will enable you to hold, compound and continue to win additional money if your bet selection is correct. Money Management has nothing to do with what betting decision is made to wager, it has to do with the amount you wager and what you do with your wager win money.

What is my Money Management Method?

1)    Bankroll
         Buy-in

2)    Positive Progression

3)    1/3rd, 1/3rd, 1/3rd Set-Asides

4)    1 + 4 Side Parlay

5)    Sections & Turning Points

6)    Level & Plateau

You Must Always Employ:   Value, Respect, Recognition to the 6 sections of MMM listed above.  ALWAYS.

Reference #3: And here is how it works.

1/3rd, 1/3rd, 1/3rd With the Win Money

Here is the summation.

When I win, I take 1/3 of the win money and pocket it, cash it and will not in any way whatsoever use it.  I take another 1/3 of the win money and increase my Bankroll with it.  I take the remaining 1/3rd of the win money and keep it as a reserve if I lose my bankroll I am playing with and still desire to play longer.

You can do it with any amount of win.  Say you buy in with $600.00 and get up to $1,800.00.  Take $400 and pocket it.  Increase your Bankroll to $1,000.00 and put the other $400 in your pocket as a backup bankroll.

Say you won another $1,000.00.  Take $350.00 and make your bankroll $1,350.00.  Take another $350.00 and put it with the $400.00 and that makes $750.00 you can't touch.  Take the other $300.00 and put it with the reserve bankroll you have of $400 making it now $700.00.

For me, I get the piece of mind, that I always have another chance if I lose and still want to keep playing.  I have something from my win money already 'locked up' and cannot be touched.  I have a slightly bigger bankroll.  When I do these things, it stops me from playing the way I used to with win money, and seldom holding on to it when things turned ugly.

All I know for me and some others, compiling the win money into your bankroll sitting on the table, only makes it subjected to larger bets and being lost easier than it does without some kind of plan.

Do it with any amount of win money, adjust it for your own psychological well being.  To me and most I speak with, it is easier to walk away after winning, when you know you have really tried to win more and maybe one more shot or another round at a table after a meal or a break, etc.  Maybe you can win money and stack it up in front of you and value it properly, but for most players it makes them play a bit more recklessly and dangerously then when they initially sat down with XYZ bankroll.


Be Smart. Employ Control, Patience and Money Management Method.

"Believing it is coming",  "It is right around the corner" or "I will just keep trying", will drain you each and every time. I promise you it will, PROMISE.  Mark my words you might not want to admit it, but I'm completely spot-on about that one.

Baccarat is a 50-50 game, I don't care what anyone says on the Internet about odds, it's a 50/50 game. It is not hard to win. What is hard, is to keep the win money. What is also extremely hard is to keep winning. Why? Because that 50-50 chance moves into the casinos favor greater and greater with every hand you play.

And the longer you play the more you will lose, Win Money or your own Buy-in Money.  Unlike what almost everybody subscribes to, which is the longer you play the more you will win.

You will not beat the odds each and every time you sit at the table. You will not accomplish what every player believes they so easily can, so stop trying. But you can compound, hold and incorporate win money into your bank roll if you use my Money Management Method not one doubt about it, NOT ONE!!

Both sides have the same characteristics. Except player will and does have a better chance to form more clumps and runs then Banker does.

It's just like everything else in player and banker and side bets at the baccarat table, sometimes it happens and sometimes it does not. 

You're sitting there for a very limited amount of time and all of the math and all of the fallacies from hundreds of thousands of hands or hundreds of thousands of shoes, does not count for that one, two or three shoes you're sitting down for your session.

"You must learn to respond to what is actually factual and happening. And not to what you think or is in your beliefs",  and so on.

Leave out the beliefs, leave out the emotions, leave out thinking every wagering hand about your bank roll or your buy in money. You must!!!!

You cannot touch upon or interface with math at the table for the 15 or 25 or so hands for the 1, 2 or 3 shoes your wagering real money on, in real time attempting Progressive Wagers in order to actually take down some money.

You know in my opinion and that of many other experienced players, the most intelligent and profitable players have the best chance to capitalize on the game of baccarat using extreme control and being conscious of everything that we talk about.

There are lots of important items to learn, use and possess that will give you large advantages in baccarat. Like I said anyone can win and anyone can lose. How much you do of either one is totally up to you and it has a lot to do with many things especially Control and Consciousness at the table.

Just for example, control will allow you to capitalize on positive progressions when it is the right time as well as not getting sucked in and following worthless fallacies and destined losers amongst many other things at the tables.

Low Ties=Presentment Consistency.  I've written about it many times 0 1 2 3 ties equal presentment consistency. I mean it will continue within a section to be consistent in the type of winning hands and this is another great example in the beginning of the shoe.

Also you have player heavy in the beginning of the shoe at least some way to make money 7 to 10 times which are great for positive progressions.

Also player from hand 35 on, if it wasn't a natural for the player that won, the third card for the player brought the player up to a 7, 8 or9 just about every single time. And numerous tines in there, I would say at least five of them, was a Natural 9 Player over Banker Natural 8.

Same dealer that gave us 3 Fortune 7s and 12 Bankers the other night, sat down and relieved dealer that started the shoe and he says, 'are you ready for at least 7 Banks with 3 Fortune 7s?'  And everyone said, SURE. Most of the people didn't believe it but he sure banged out almost what he said, he gave us 2 Fortune 7s with the 6 Bankers. I'll comment on it later,  need some sleep.

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By the way, the shoe finished with making another single Banker followed by 6 Players followed by 6 Bankers and that finished the shoe.