You know, I have seen a lot inside of casinos.  Lots of arguments with husbands/wives, BF/GF's, casino players and dealers/pit personnel, between 2 players, etc.  Some of them pretty loud to say the least.  But never I have witnessed a physical altercation taking place at a baccarat table!


Okay, here's what occurred.  Well it was a pretty normal session we were going through at the table. People winning and losing, a few people drinking heavy, one or two trying to borrow money from their friends and a few people just talking. Nothing out of the ordinary at all.

Then this regular player comes up and asks another very well-known regular player for the money that he borrowed from him a while back and he wants it back. The guy is seated at the table and keeps his head down and doesn't answer the guy asking for his money returned.

Usually everyone's pretty quiet about asking for their money back with a tap on the shoulder and a motion to pay them back or something along those lines, nobody really let's go out loud with a verbal, give me my money back, in a demanding type of way.

This guy says it several times out loud very distinctively and finally the seated player that seemingly owed the money, got up and the guy that was asking for his money back smacks the guy closed fisted right in the face.  The guy falls back and his upper rear of his body lands onto the baccarat table.  A couple of women whom were seated adjacent to the guy that fell on the table, jumped up screaming loud curse words.  Several people's chips go all over the place and mass disaster begins. The dealer immediately grabs for the chip rack cover slamming it down on top of her chips and yells as loud as she could for the floor manager who came running over, saying to lock the table down. Of course you can see another couple floor supervisors running over and others calling on the phone.  Within about a minute at most, security officers and a couple local law enforcement officers all came running over.

Just before the officers came over, the guy got in at least two more full face smacks each time the other guy attempted to get back up. They both got quickly handcuffed and taken out off the casino floor. Several floor managers were over at the table and told everybody not to touch any chips and they were calling security and they would run the cameras and find out who had what on the table. All the chips were straightened out and everybody was satisfied they got their chips back that they originally had. 

The guy that owed the money who was seated, the dealer and floor person stacked his chips off to the side of the rack.  Security was called and came to the table with an empty fill box and tray, took the chips and left. 

Like I always said, eventually you'll see it all.

You say 'Streaks' as many do and desire.  Well I love long 7+ IAR streak, all Bankers or all Players.  But, I also have found 'Streaks' to be equally as beautiful and profitable presenting such events as, 'Chop-Chop', 'Doubles', and '1s and 2s'.  Although a bit harder to really get into, but they are prevalent nonetheless. 

As simple as it sounds, "I'm going to wager on whatever is being produced"; it is not easy to gear one's foresight towards all possibly streaky events.

So in all essence, 'Streaky' can most certainly be other events within a 'Section', other than a repetitive IAR series of Bs or Ps.  7-8-9 of anything is not a rarity within most shoes. 

Just for everyone's information from years of live B&M play.

As you said, "In our opinion the only way to erase and possibly invert the HE is by putting things into frames and trying to find reasons and collect data to prove otherwise."

Possibly, 'Sections'?  As I have written about until I was blue in the face.

Lots of merit, however the beginning is always the best IMO, if one is not playing every hand on a mechanical wagering believe.

That second and third "1 and 2", slows down anything good from parlaying. 

I rather do a full parlay or even a 1-3-2-6 or a 1-3-2-8 and then cool off or wait for a bit.

Starting the day.

Back east we occasionally would sprinkle 'magical dust' on the cards before we peeled them, you know for a bit of help. For those that never saw this, it is rubbing your thumb and first two fingers together over the top of the cards. 

Okay let's talk here. I have witnessed countless baccarat  players; strangers, friends and even myself win shoes and sessions. Many frequently doubling, tripling, quadrupling and more their buy-in amounts. And the answers are vast and varied why the players give it all back in pursuit of larger wins, but it happens far more than retaining their wins.  It seriously does 100%.

Probably because of emotional excitement, attempt for loss recouping, belief that their found triggers that just worked will keep producing and repeating themselves, etc., etc., etc.

However in my early days I fit the above non-ability to hold win amounts greater than 50% of my sessions. And of course when I did, my 'great' MMM would be something along the lines of, hold buy-in for next session and increase it with the total amount just won.  Go bigger-harder-play longer and faster.  LoL, a road to no where but to be ground down of the win and the buy-in.

Well all that leads to nowhere, I promise all of you, with every ounce of energy I could ever put forward here. Believe me or not I have no reason to lie to you. 

So many people believe what they read on forums and watch on YouTube about the quick and easy make money wagering triggers/plans/schedules/etc., somewhere between 99.9 and 100% being massive amounts of fallacy and false statements for either attempt at or financial gain, or posted with plain lack of experience.

There are countless systems, books, reasonings and related ways to make money in the game Baccarat. Why are they fallacies? Because they promote contradictory premises and events by confusing the premises they face in themselves and each will poison the well. Think about it.

Seriously, there are certainly groups that subscribe to the above. Those that believe everyone will win if........................; and those that believe everyone will lose if ......................; and the smaller group that takes more of a neutral stance and extracts info that might help them develop advantages to implement within their play. 

In reality, what players 'think' and what actually 'happens' at the tables are two entirely different things. And I know 100% through experience and reality, losses in countless cases happen because people continue playing until all their chips are given back to the casino and then the chase to recoup is on with additional funds. 

Fallacy:  Believing what is not true and cannot work on a repetitive schedule in the game of baccarat.

Experience:  Knowing what MMM will work for you and how to use it with rock solid adherence.  Understanding that there will most likely be a drawdown of your buy-in amount and planning your wagering with that in mind.  What can and probably will not happen.  Not being oblivious to anything and everything can happen during a shoe of baccarat.

Another article this morning released referenced lack of baccarat play as well.

"LAS VEGAS (KLAS) — Nevada casinos posted a $1.3 billion win for the month of September, with downtown Las Vegas reporting its second-highest total ever.

The Las Vegas Strip accounted for more than half of the state's gaming win, taking in $727.7 million from gamblers, while locals casinos brought in $155.9 million, according to figures released Tuesday by the Nevada Gaming Control Board.

The win total for Strip casinos was 1.8% lower than September 2023, before the opening of Fontainebleau Las Vegas and the closing of the Tropicana. Also missing: The Mirage, which is closed as it rebrands under its new owner, Hard Rock.

But overall, it was an average performance. Michael Lawton, senior economic analyst for the Gaming Control Board, said last month that the 12-month average was about $1.3 billion.

Lawton said the Strip was down due to baccarat. Better performances in downtown Las Vegas, on the Boulder Strip, and at locals casinos in Clark County and Washoe County more than offset the Strip's decrease. Lawton noted the state has exceeded $1 billion each month for 43 consecutive months.

If you take away the baccarat factor, the total win on the Strip increased by 7.6% or $45 million compared to September 2023, Lawton said.

Downtown casinos won $91.0 million in September, a 33% improvement over September 2023 and the second only to a $97.5 million win reported in October 2023. The increase was on the strength of slot machines, with a 40.2% increase. The slot win downtown totaled $60.2 million.

The statewide win total for the fiscal year that began July 1, 2024, is down 2.6% compared to the same time period in 2023, a Gaming Control Board news release said. Compared to September 2023, the win total was up 3.3%.

And sports bettors in Nevada didn't fare as well as they did last year.

"Nevada sportsbooks won $80.9 million, up 29.8% compared to September 2023 on a hold percentage of 10.57% vs. 7.68% last year," Lawton said. "This represents a new all-time record beating the previous high of $72.0 million set in November of 2021. Sportsbook wagers totaled $764.6 million, down 5.7% compared to last September when $811.3 million was wagered statewide."

Here it is from Bloomberg, 10/30/24: 

Vegas Gambling Drops for Third Month; Caesars' Revenue Falls

"Gambling revenue on the Las Vegas Strip slumped 1.8% in September, the third straight monthly decline for the biggest US casino market and a sign of potentially tough quarterly comparisons for big resort operators.

The decline to $727.7 million was related to a steep drop in baccarat play, the Nevada Gaming Control Board said Tuesday in an email. Betting on baccarat was down 22%. And the casinos were less lucky, with the amount they kept shrinking by 40%. The last time, outside of the Covid-19 pandemic, that revenue on the Strip fell for three straight months was May 2019."

Well, let's face it, games can be thrown by certain people with financial interest in them.  From athletes to referees to coaches.  Here is an example of one QB in pro sports a while back.  Interesting how the FBI was involved as well.  Also, IMO once a gambler, always a gambler.  Read the following.

From the Wiki on Art Schlichter:

Schlichter was picked fourth in the 1982 NFL draft by the Colts franchise, then based in Baltimore, Maryland. Expected to be the starter, Schlichter lost the job to Mike Pagel, the Colts' fourth-round pick in that year, when he appeared at practice out of shape and in a distracted state of mind. However, he was expected to be the Colts' quarterback of the future.

Schlichter's gambling continued unabated, to the point that he blew his entire $350,000 signing bonus by midseason. Even before the Colts picked him, he already owed bookies several thousand dollars. His gambling spiraled out of control during the 1982 NFL strike, when he lost $20,000 betting on college football. By the end of the strike, he had at least $700,000 in gambling debts. Years later, he said his massive losses stemmed from desperate efforts to make good his previous losses. After losing $20,000 in the first week of the strike, he doubled up the next week and lost again—starting a cycle that would continue for over a year.

In the winter of 1982 and the spring of 1983, Schlichter lost $489,000 betting on basketball games. When bookies threatened to harm or expose Schlichter if he did not pay up (the NFL, like most major professional leagues, forbids its players from engaging in any kind of gambling activity, legal or otherwise), he went to the FBI in March 1983 and gave information that helped get the bookies arrested on federal charges. He also sought help from the NFL, as he feared the bookies would force him to throw games in return for not telling the Colts about his activities. The league suspended him indefinitely, but Commissioner Pete Rozelle reduced the suspension to thirteen months after Schlichter agreed to seek treatment for his gambling addiction. He was the first NFL player to be suspended for gambling since Alex Karras and Paul Hornung were suspended in 1963 for betting on NFL games.

Schlichter was reinstated for the 1984 season but later admitted that he'd gambled during his suspension (though not on football). He was released five games into the 1985 season, in part because the Colts heard rumors that he was gambling again. As it turned out, he had lost a significant amount of money over the spring and summer while playing golf and wrote one of his golfing partners a check for $2,000. The check was to be cashed after the season started. However, when the golfing partner contacted the Colts to see if the check was good, team and league officials feared Schlichter had relapsed. The NFL wanted Schlichter to take a polygraph test, but Colts coach Rod Dowhower had already seen enough and pushed the Colts front office to release him.

It would be Schlichter's last meaningful action in the NFL. He signed as a free agent with the Buffalo Bills in the spring of 1986. However, his tenure in Buffalo effectively ended when the United States Football League (USFL) collapsed. Jim Kelly, the Bills' 1983 first-round pick, had bolted to the USFL instead but signed with the Bills when the league "won" its antitrust lawsuit ($1.00 damages trebled to $3.00); the Bills had intended all along for Kelly to be their quarterback. With Kelly now firmly in the Bills fold, Schlichter's services were no longer necessary. He sat out the 1986 season after no other team expressed interest.

In January 1987, Schlichter was arrested in New York City for his involvement in a multimillion-dollar sports betting operation. He pleaded guilty to illegal gambling in April and was sentenced to probation. That arrest came back to haunt him that summer. The Cincinnati Bengals saw enough promise in Schlichter that they were willing to bring him on as Boomer Esiason's backup. However, Rozelle vetoed the deal, citing the January arrest.  Rozelle let it be known that he would not approve any NFL contract for Schlichter that season, costing him valuable work when the National Football League Players Association went on strike that year. He made another bid for reinstatement in 1988 but was turned down. That same year, he filed for bankruptcy to shield himself from creditors.

In parts of three seasons, Schlichter played only thirteen games, primarily in backup or "mop-up" roles. He made only six starts, losing them all. He threw 202 passes and completed 91 of them. He threw three touchdown passes and eleven interceptions. He amassed a quarterback rating of only 42.6 and is considered one of the biggest draft busts in NFL history. In 2007, Schlichter was listed as the #7 all-time draft bust on the NFL Network's Top 10 Draft Busts episode. In an updated list from 2010, Schlichter was moved to the #4 draft bust of all time,[18] and in a video listing the top ten quarterback draft busts of all time, Schlichter was listed #3, behind JaMarcus Russell (#2) and Ryan Leaf (#1). In 2007, Charles Robinson of Yahoo! Sports named Schlichter the worst #4 pick since the AFL-NFL merger, writing that Colts fans long felt chagrin that Jim McMahon was taken by the Chicago Bears with the very next pick. McMahon would lead the Bears to victory in Super Bowl XX during Schlichter's final NFL season. In 2021, The Athletic named Schlichter the worst #4 pick since the merger, noting that the Colts selected him with McMahon and future Hall of Fame running back Marcus Allen on the board.

Schlichter said years later that he was distracted for much of his NFL career. He went through a messy break-up with his girlfriend before his rookie season with the Colts, and the ensuing depression led him to gamble more. Schlichter believed the accolades he received after his sophomore year at OSU diminished his drive, and the pressure of living up to that praise led him to gamble as an outlet.

After spending 1987 out of football, Schlichter signed a contract with the Ottawa Rough Riders of the Canadian Football League (CFL) in 1988. He was named the starter out of camp and saw his first meaningful game action in three years. However, he suffered broken ribs from a hit midway through the season. The Rough Riders placed him on injured reserve for thirty days then released him.

Schlichter played for the Detroit Drive of the Arena Football League (AFL) in 1990 and 1991, where he was named MVP in the former en route to winning ArenaBowl IV. His AFL success was attributed to his frequent deep passes, which caught opposing defenses off guard in an era when most AFL offenses relied on short passes. Ahead the 1992 season, Schlichter was traded to the expansion Cincinnati Rockers, with league officials believing his popularity in Ohio would generate interest for the franchise. Schlichter helped lead the Rockers to the playoffs in their inaugural season, but announced he was retiring from football that October. Although he said he intended instead to focus on his radio career and curing his gambling addiction, evidence later came to light that Schlichter was forced to retire rather than face being banned from the league for betting on AFL games.

3 sections is the way I played the shoe, up to the 60th hand or so when I stopped in section C anyways.

Last night.  Played the majority of the hands shown in this one shoe, about 3/4 of a full shoe as you see here.  Followed what was happening most times and lost the last wager of course and then started on the next presentation.

Caught 9 players hands in that players streak with a few full parlays.  Same with the bankers streak as well.

THE 4 HANDS PRIOR TO THE 3 IAR NATURALS IN THE PLAYERS STREAK:  A bit unique.

P First two = 0.  B First two = 7. Players third card was an 8.  Players 8 over 7.

P First two = 5.  B First two = 6.  Players third card was a 6.  Bankers third card was a 4.  Players 1 over 0.

P First two = 3.  B First two = 2.  Players third card was a 9.  B third card was also a 9.  Players 2 over 1.

P First two = 6.  B First two = 5.  Bankers third card was a 10.  Players 6 over 5.

All four hands players won by 1 point.  Now on to the 3 back to back naturals.


THE 3 IAR NATURALS IN THE PLAYERS STREAK:

First one in group of three:  Players Natural 9 over B Natural 8.

Second one in group of three:  Players Natural 9 over B Natural 8 again.

Third one in group of three:  Players Natural 8 over B 7. 

Once again all 3 Natural players hands won by 1 point.

That made 7 IAR players hands winning by 1 point.  2 cards, 3 card reductions, naturals, etc. 

And of course that fueled the majority of the people playing to wager heavy banker, because they were convinced that was the pattern/trend showing the players would quickly fall off and cut. 

Does the casino care that a few of us were physically banging them and cleaning up?  Of course not!  Why?  Because, they still make money by taking in all those heavy losing bankers bets and paying out the few of us that were winning all the players bets.  Gotta love it!

I contribute three things to my success with this shoe.  One, Low Ties-0-1-2-3.  Two, Equalization.  Three, defining sections and wagering heavy after the start of each.

Below picture is a non commission Bad Beat bac table with a $5,000.00 max per hand limit.  It is also a MIDI/Macau style players peel the cards.  Note what I did to the 8 card peeling it back.  $20.00 three card 8/9 wager, 200:1, dealer is cutting out my win as I snapped the picture.

A great view in the morning traveling east.

Well, I might have posted a picture of my little buddy here a few years back.  Actually misplaced him and never really searched for him.  Came across him under a pile of clothes in a drawer the other night.

I bring him in my pocket to the casino and occasionally when I or the entire table are calling for a monkey, pull him out.  Yes, he is solid gold and about the size of a thumbnail. 

Call it superstitious or quackery, it does bring smiles and pats on the back when it works.