Restored topic.

Request I had last night, I restored this thread that I put into the recycle bin with thousands of others.  Somebody thought it was pretty good and asked me to repost it again.

Another one is when naturals start appearing they seem to cut to the opposite side quite often, no I do not have statistics on it and no I don't have a count of any mathematical figure, but I know it happens far better than than 50% of the time.

Little difficult to explain and I will expand upon it in next few days

You can certainly twist and turn it any way you like. But my goal is to complete one or two out of five six or seven attemps and again strictly with win money, so I do risk it.

But I want the larger reward on the fourth one that wins and those first couple of Wagers are valuable to stay in place for myself.

The idea that anyone can control Baccarat and the shoe's outcome is the tendency for people to overestimate their ability to control events; for example, it occurs when someone feels a sense of control over outcomes that they both, physically and demonstrably do not influence, but they subconsciously believe that they have.

The effect happens all the time at the Baccarat table in live play, usually lasting for a small series of hands and then coming and going throughout the shoe or shoe's, until the players buy-in or bank roll is lost.  The same thing usually happens over and over for extended period's of time, because of the players desire to either recoup his losses or win larger sums of money thinking he can actually beat the casino on a repetitive basis. 

His very own thought influences his own behavior and belief in his ability to win the game of Baccarat on a long term basis and totally ignores his short term losses (most players huge mistake), which are mounting up with no real conscious thought by the player, (another huge mistake).  He turns his desires into false illusions of control using positive real (but false or temporary positive) illusions and setting aside all negative aspects of what he is actually creating and doing, as game variance or basis that he feels he can eventually overcome.

The illusions arise because people lack direct real-fact insight into whether they are in control of events and why they even have those thoughts or ideas in the first place. This has been called the introspection illusion in the technical and scholastic circles.  Instead those people judge their degree of control by a process that will be extremely unreliable and worthless in real life Baccarat play because of their ignorance and their desires are actually controlling themselves.   As a result, they see themselves as responsible for events when there is little or no real-life connection to the Baccarat events that just happened or maybe, previously happened and they are basing their wagering decisions on those events.

The saddest part of all this is, that most Baccarat players are likely to overestimate their control when the situations are heavily chance-determined, they also tend to underestimate their control when they actually have it, which runs contrary to some theories of the illusion that they actually possess.  And, because those Baccarat players overestimate their control, they wind up losing all their wins as well as their buy-ins and eventually bankrolls.

Wise up and realize what advantages really are at the Baccarat table, what it takes to gain those advantages and what advantages can actually help you win and win larger while holding those wins in the game of Baccarat!

Try this with win money set aside.  But couple the 1 + 4 Parlay Wager with your regular base wagering selections. 

The pysch end of it will be to your advantage, I promise you that!   

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I was in Atlantic City, New Jersey for New Year's 1999 at this was played at a few minutes before midnight.  Still to this day, one of the greatest ever!

Today, 12-28-19, going to ride by Prince's house out on Highway 5 in Chanhassen, Minnesota and by the huge memorial painted on the side of the Chanhassen Movie Theater down the street from his house and recording studio. 

RIP Prince! 

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Next Shoe:

After the drama dies down in the Bac room, the next shoe was started.  Well into the shoe, one of the players were winning almost every hand for the past 7 or 8 hands or so.  One of the players yells out, Hey what are you betting next?  The player that was winning answers back, I do not know.  Going through my process of emlination.  Of course he has already had several beers and his words were slurring a little bit.  The other player presses him, going to wager with you, etc.  The winning player looks up and says, you really want to know how I do it?  And the other guy says yes!  The wining player stands up and takes a deep breath.  Told every one to watch himself.  The guy recites, Eeny Meeny Miny Moe and points alternatly to Banker and Player as he does it.  His last word of the ryhme winds up on Player.  Most already had their wagers set on Banker and all laugh.  One person recites out loud, the power of alcohol and starts laughing.  The winning player pushes up a fairly large stack of black chips and crosses his arms.  Most people are laughing. 

Cards dealt, 7 for the Players side and the guy is already saying Banker lost.  Banker returns that dreeded 6.  Once again.  The person that questioned the winning drinking guy, asked what is next.  The guy once again recites his Eeny Meeny Miny Moe routine and lands on Banker this time.  Of course he started it different than last time, but hey, it is what it is.  So about half the table goes with the guy and the other half against him.  Cards dealt once again.  Player returns a Natural 8.  The winning guy is working the cards.  Has a 3 line card and a 1 line card.  He is taking his time.  Finally says, never lose, either I have an 8 or a 9.  Flips over a 6 and a 3. 

Okay, now most are quite.  Another person gets up and says, listen dude, you can do your Eeny Meeny Miny Moe stuff and land where ever you want because  you already know where the last one will land because  it is only 2 options.  So the winning guy says, how about if we include one of the four Tie options you pick it, the straight up Tie or the 6/6 or the 7/7 or the 6/7 Tie and we will also include the 8/9 Natural and the Panda 8 and the Fortune 7 options.  The other guy says okay sounds fair.  So the guys runs through his regime of the ryhme and lands on Tie.  Finally the cards are dealt and the Players return a total of 2 and the Bankers returns a total of 1.  Most all are on the Bankers side.  Players third card is an 8 reducing them to 0.  The guy that start all this, that challenged the drinking guy has the largest wager and gets the Bankers side third card.  He peeks at it.  Says pretty loud, I can not believe this, I either have a 9 or a ten.  He flops it over and it is a 9 and reduces the Bankers side to a 0 and a Tie.  The dealer is laughing and most others are as well.  The drinking guy stands up and fist pumps the air and tells everyone, I told you so. 

Now a few others are challanging him also.  He runs through his funky ryhme once again.  Lands on Players side.  A few push in large stacks of chips and say, lets do this.  Get it on, lets go.  Cards are dealt.  Players side returns a 3 and Bankers side returns a 4.  Players side flops an 8 and the Bankers side wins. 

Show over.  Agian, only at the baccarat table.  LOL!

A few nights ago, we were all at the casino.  Late night, good table, lots of Karma, Freindship, a few Wifes and Husbands present, etc.  We get towards the end of the current shoe we were playing.  Full table, most people were winning.  Myself, H-Money and my resturant manager all grouped together.  Casino host comes over and checks on everyone.  The couple seated next to us asked for a comp to one of the resturants.  Host said sit tight, be right back with it.  The wife gets up, pushes her chip stacks in and says, color up.  She tells her husband be right back.  She grabs her purse and the cell phone she had wedged between her herself and the chair back and excuses herself to the restroom.  Husband pushes his chip stack in and asked the dealer to color up.

We are all refusing to play the last 10 or so hands and we ask for a new shoe.  Dealer looks over at the pit person and he nods his head okay.  All three of us are winning.  Everything great so far.  The husband to the excused wife that is gone, grabs the cell phone that was behind himself and says to H-Money whom he has know for quite some time, look at the first text message and check out the car I am buying, like 7,000 miles, the guy is broke and has to sell it within a few days in order to avoid legal action of some type, here look.  H-Money clicks on the first text and starts looking at the pictures.  H-Money breaks out laughing.  H-Money says, dude you are gay?  Really I do not want to look at pictures of some erect dicks being shown off!!  The husband grabs the phone and freaks out!  Tells H-Money that is his wifes phone and the guy grows furious.  The explanation is obvious, it is his wifes boyfriend or friend with benefits.

Just about that time his wife comes in the baccarat room and is screaming and yelling.  Turns out she did the exact same thing with the husbands phone and found some pictures of women on there as well. 

Oh well, just another night at the casino.   

Noted.  And yes everything can be twisted and turned to be individualistic and that is the point of a forum, research, learning and finding what our own advantages are.

Happy hHolidays to all!

You know I was talking to a couple very experienced players at the baccarat table the other night and I got out of paper and pen and showed them my 1 + 4 side parlay wager, that I constantly do.

You know take just $50 because a lot of tables are $50 minimum and parlay it four times after you win once is a net profit of $1,550. Take that same $50 and flatbet it you, need 31 wins to make the same amount of money. It looks like this:

$50.00.   Win wager: $100  $200 $400 $800.  Net Profit: $1,550.00

Flat Bet would look like this:

$50.00.  Win wager each time:  $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50 $50

And if you ever followed me and read anything I've written about my 1 + 4 side parlay wager,  it is not a consecutive dedicated wager.  I always have a main wager as my base bet, that is what I called my side wager and I'm wagering that out of my win money that's allocated four, five, six or seven times to complete one 1 + 4 side parlay wager.

Think about it, if you play to win you play to win!

Picking a side or picking a trend/event to happen is not the way to play this game unless you do it on an infrequent occasion. For consistency in any kind of session it will never work. Even then it will be a hit and miss type of thing, but much more manageable.

If you believe you can sit at the baccarat table and play numerous hands, shoe after shoe wagering for a certain thing, you are doomed from the very beginning. Second Lungyeh, is spot-on about James and Peter!  Following and breaking is extremely confusing to most and that is in total advantage to the casino each and every time and total disadvantage to the player. For the simple fact as mentioned you'll wind up winning some but you'll lose far in excess of what you win.

Money management is super important, yes absolutely. And of utmost priority. If you believe win stop and loss stop of units is money management, you are wrong.  So frequently mentioned by so many people, feel that doing just that will support you and allow you to win or not lose, that my friends is totally foolish.

Win and lose has to happen and it most certainly will. The way I found and proved to win when the win time presents itself to me, you have to have clear frame of mind and you have to be totally conscious of what is happening and being presented. That is why I came up with my Pounce On It, which I have written about many times so there's no need to rehash it here, it's already on the board.

Wild bets are hard to define and what is wild to me, might not be to you, and the opposite as well. However, wild or should we say much larger bets is a risk that will always be in the game and it is fine with me if it's with my win money, that is going to be allocated once I get to a certain point, which will be governed by my 1/3 1/3 1/3 money management method, I have often written about.

Buy-in.  Determines wagering and opportunity for each of us, which is individualistic to us. Buy-in has to be total risk capital.

Win. You have to understand win more than loss. Most all players allow wins to derail themselves and cause themselves to lose not only the win, but their buy-in as well.

Loss.  Most all baccarat players do not understand it and how it affects your frame of mind and consciousness of playing and the ability to see the presentments that the shoe is making. I don't want to get into it here, it's a complicated and detailed subject I've written about it elsewhere on the board.

When you win, you have to move to a true money management method of governing your future plays during that session. My 1/3 1/3 1/3 allows myself to do just that. From then on out, my wagering time spent at the table and when the session will end, will be truly governed by my 1/3 1/3 1/3.

As far as what Lungyeh said about my 70/30 is not totally correct. Once again my buy-in and yours should be total risk capital and not subject to loss stop. You will never win that way. What I have written previously about in short is the following.

Once I get a win to a certain point, I pocket my buy-in. Use 1/3 of the win to continue wagering. 1/3 of that same win will be a reserved amount. And the other 1/3 of it will be locked up and pocketed for an additional allocation for other non-gaming purposes. No exceptions. Exceptions only cause longer play, loss of win and usually loss of buy-ins and continued buy-ins to attempt recouping which will never work more than once or twice in many sessions.

Because the majority of the times you will experience a greater loss of hands then you will wins. Therefore, a continued flatbet or negative betting or progression to let you recoup, you will never win at this game at least anything sizable that is.

So, my 1/3 1/3 1/3 and my 1 + 4 side parlay plays, both coupled with my staying fully conscious of what my own level and plateaus are, while employing some positive progressions is the way to play in my opinion. Those things allow myself to win far in excess of my losses and most importantly I can most of the time capitalize on those opportunities that are either Banker or Player or side wagers or chops or doubles or triples or whatever they are named.

I am going to make some comments to your reply here Lungyeh.

I don't want to cluster Asyms thread, so I'm going to post it in my section called Wagering and Intricacies.  I'll work on it now.

You have some of what I posted correct and you got some of it wrong, I'll explain in that section.