Sections & Turning Points

A Further Explanation

Several have inquired and several have misinterpreted what I wrote previously.  So, I will attempt to further explain what Sections & Turning points are to me.

Sections.  Sections, is the shoe divided up into 3 to 5 windows that help me focus on numerous things.  A couple of those are the following.  First and foremost, to concentrate on what is being presented as a constant reminder on what the shoe is producing.  Some call that the flow of the cards or the presentments as they are happening, etc.  Either way, those or any of the other labels, it is reality and what is actually happening.  I do believe one of the greatest mistakes in playing baccarat is the continual looking back as to what happened or the opposite, what has not happened or what should happen, etc.  Second, after years and years of actual play, relying or counting on streaks, chops, doubles, cuts, ones and threes, ones and twos, etc., will only get you what is actually being presented.  Not what is due, what you want, what you are counting on, what could happen or anything of those desires we all have most of the times.  I have come to realize a few years back, that the shoe will do what the shoe will do, nothing more and nothing less.  Hence, the Section is reality as it is happening.  Third, there is no trigger(s) being defined, there are no sure wagers being defined, there are no should appear type of favoritism being brought about, if used the way I intended it to be used.

The reasoning for the 3 to 5 Sections is based on tens of thousands of live shoes being witnessed and played by myself, it is extremely rare for more than one half of the shoe to stay the same.  Meaning, all chops, all doubles, all streaks by one or two or even three or four times, etc., etc., and so on.  The common amount (could be a bit subjective to each of us, the actual number of hands) I would say is right around 15 to 20.  Therefore, a shoe of 80 hands would equal 4 Sections of 20.  A shoe of 80 hands might equal 5 Sections of 15 and so on. 

Turning Points. Turning Points, are the definitive time that the Section dies or comes about.  Exactly what the term means.  This is the spot that the Section ends and a new Section begins.  Like Jimske, a previous member that really rode into me and chastised myself for my writing, Sections & Turning Points, he seemed to have twisted my writing to his wrongful interpretation and how I came up with the Turning Points of the Sections.  I said it before and I will say it again.  A Turning Point is defined after it happens.  Not before.  We are not predicting anything here, we are not putting our desires or triggers or anything of the like, for the Turning Point line.  I am merely putting the Turning Point line exactly where it happened to define a Section that is closing and opening up a new Section.  Also, a bit subjective to the person playing of course. 

Say there was BB-P-BBB-P-B-P-B-PP-BB-P-BBB-B-PPPPPPPP-B.  I would draw a line either right before or after those 8 Players in a row depending on how they formed.  But if this example was from the first hand of the shoe, I would draw the line before probably would the 4th or 5th Player in a row.  Why?  Because the Section changed, clearly and definitively. 

I posted numerous pictures on the board here with examples on real score boards of Sections and Turing Points.  If you are interested, you can look those up.

There are numerous ways I use my Sections & Turning Points.  I have rarely seen repetitive whole shoe patterns and trends or presentments, whatever you wish to call them, repeat themselves over and over and over again for much more than one third of the shoe and even less, over a half of shoe.  After tens of thousands of shoes, I know it would be in the rare classification for there to be much greater than 15 alternating chops in a row, or greater than 12 doubles in a row, or more than eight 1s and 3s, or more than 3 streaks of greater than 10 in a row, etc., in one shoe.  I hope my point is coming across.

Likewise, when repetitive patterns, trends or groups of presentments seem to come back around, it would be later in the shoe, if they do at all. Sections & Turning Points can certainly highlight the groupings of presentments within their greatest appearing clumps or groups.  Weak or Strong in whatever the shoe is producing can be numerous things.  Streaks, Chops, Doubles, Ones and Threes, etc.  Sections & Turning Points assists me to define current presentments and the limited time the usually appear, narrowing down the possibilities of a BETTER WAGER or a WAGER WITH GREATER POSSIBILITY to win then not using it.       

The hunger returned to Ping's brain as she rounded a blind curve on the highway she was on. She was doing about 95 miles an hour in a 65 miles per hour zone, but she did not care, that was Ping. She was north of cute, she was somewhere around absolutely beautiful and stunning was a better way to describe her. She would never get a ticket from a male police officer if pulled over and if a female officer stopped her, she would pull out her previous credentials from the FBI a position she held in her previous career that she was still kind of tied to in some ways.

Her cell phone rang as her favorite song came on the radio, Burning Down The House by the Talking Heads. She turned up the volume as high as it would go and her cell phone rang and rang. A few seconds later her cell phone rang again. Her phone was between her legs on the car seat she was sitting in driving. She concentrated on the song as she did not want to answer her phone. She glanced down at her phone and there was a text message at the top of the screen, "answer the God damn phone!". She did not answer. Her foot reacted and she was now doing g well over a hundred miles an hour.

She could not figure out if the hunger in her stomach was from her lack of baccarat play coupled with the casino action she craved for, or if it was actual hunger itself. Ping was smart, actually north of smart, more like brilliant. Her classic education was a degree with honors from Dartmouth University in New Hampshire. But she was equally educated in reality and less than formal training, most any law enforcement officer ever experiences in their Police Academy training and their years of field experience coupled together. Ping was special, a natural, a talented woman well past whatever her years at Dartmouth University taught her in the various classrooms she sat in. The streets of various Chinatown's in various Asian sections of New York City, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago as well as Bangkok, Hong Kong, Macau, Phnom Penh, Vientiane and many other cities and back jungles less than famous towns throughout the Mekong Delta, taught her to name just a few.

Ping previously worked full-time for the Department of Justice, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, who had originally recruited her as an Asian translator and research assistant but quickly found her niche as a lead agent and supervisor of one of the FBI's elite units as a confidential informant handler and mentor for the FBI's high-risk criminal Asian Triad Enterprise Task Force Unit. Murder, kidnapping, human trafficking, racketeering and international terrorism were among the everyday 'normal' type of cases where confidential informants known as, CI's or snitches, whether for pay or working off other criminal charges were involved in.

Ping's phone went off again and once again she looked down at it and the same words were showing on the display," unknown caller".  It was an "unknown caller" when her previous boss needed to get a hold of her each and every time and call in the many favors that she owed. Ping always owed a lot of favors to a lot of people. That's the way ping lived.

Ping was hell-bent to get to the casino and inside and sit down at the baccarat table. She wanted to play a few shoes of baccarat and just be like everyone else for a change. She was about 15 miles out from the casino and another favorite song of Ping's came on the radio, Another Brick in the Wall by Pink Floyd. She figured that she would just about be pulling up to the casino about the time that the song was finished. Ping finally made it into the casino's parking lot. She found a place to park and she grabbed her purse and headed into the casino. As she was walking through the parking lot she threw her head back,  ran her fingers through her hair and adjusted her purse, all while starring up at the sky.

She was strutting down the aisle of the casino towards the baccarat room for the next minute. The neon glow of the baccarat sign above the entrance to the high-limit room caught her eyes. She was strutting down the aisle past the craps, roulette and blackjack tables with the sole mission to get herself inside the baccarat room. She glanced off at the baccarat tables as she was walking past them. She caught the look of one of the blackjack players eyeballing her up and down and she could not resist stopping and squaring off on the guy. Ping said, "What the f*** are you looking at, how come you don't concentrate on your game or pay attention to that woman sitting next to you"?  Ping continued to the baccarat room and grabbed an empty seat. She threw up two stacks of wrapped hundred dollar bills each stack containing $10,000 onto the table. The dealer called out, "Change only, twenty thousand". Waldo was working the podium in the pit directly behind the table Ping sat down at. Waldo hangs up the phone and shuffled the few steps to the table. Waldo eyeballs Ping and Ping said, "What is the matter, you never seen an Asian girl play this game before"?

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Waldo finally returns 2020 and he meets Ping-Pong who came walking in and threw stacks of money down on the table!  Ping-Pong knows Tina and Tina's cocking her head to the side wondering if Ping-Pong is that lady that she came into contact with a few years back.

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Request I had last night, I restored this thread that I put into the recycle bin with thousands of others.  Somebody thought it was pretty good and asked me to repost it again.

Another one is when naturals start appearing they seem to cut to the opposite side quite often, no I do not have statistics on it and no I don't have a count of any mathematical figure, but I know it happens far better than than 50% of the time.

Little difficult to explain and I will expand upon it in next few days

You can certainly twist and turn it any way you like. But my goal is to complete one or two out of five six or seven attemps and again strictly with win money, so I do risk it.

But I want the larger reward on the fourth one that wins and those first couple of Wagers are valuable to stay in place for myself.

The idea that anyone can control Baccarat and the shoe's outcome is the tendency for people to overestimate their ability to control events; for example, it occurs when someone feels a sense of control over outcomes that they both, physically and demonstrably do not influence, but they subconsciously believe that they have.

The effect happens all the time at the Baccarat table in live play, usually lasting for a small series of hands and then coming and going throughout the shoe or shoe's, until the players buy-in or bank roll is lost.  The same thing usually happens over and over for extended period's of time, because of the players desire to either recoup his losses or win larger sums of money thinking he can actually beat the casino on a repetitive basis. 

His very own thought influences his own behavior and belief in his ability to win the game of Baccarat on a long term basis and totally ignores his short term losses (most players huge mistake), which are mounting up with no real conscious thought by the player, (another huge mistake).  He turns his desires into false illusions of control using positive real (but false or temporary positive) illusions and setting aside all negative aspects of what he is actually creating and doing, as game variance or basis that he feels he can eventually overcome.

The illusions arise because people lack direct real-fact insight into whether they are in control of events and why they even have those thoughts or ideas in the first place. This has been called the introspection illusion in the technical and scholastic circles.  Instead those people judge their degree of control by a process that will be extremely unreliable and worthless in real life Baccarat play because of their ignorance and their desires are actually controlling themselves.   As a result, they see themselves as responsible for events when there is little or no real-life connection to the Baccarat events that just happened or maybe, previously happened and they are basing their wagering decisions on those events.

The saddest part of all this is, that most Baccarat players are likely to overestimate their control when the situations are heavily chance-determined, they also tend to underestimate their control when they actually have it, which runs contrary to some theories of the illusion that they actually possess.  And, because those Baccarat players overestimate their control, they wind up losing all their wins as well as their buy-ins and eventually bankrolls.

Wise up and realize what advantages really are at the Baccarat table, what it takes to gain those advantages and what advantages can actually help you win and win larger while holding those wins in the game of Baccarat!

Try this with win money set aside.  But couple the 1 + 4 Parlay Wager with your regular base wagering selections. 

The pysch end of it will be to your advantage, I promise you that!   

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I was in Atlantic City, New Jersey for New Year's 1999 at this was played at a few minutes before midnight.  Still to this day, one of the greatest ever!

Today, 12-28-19, going to ride by Prince's house out on Highway 5 in Chanhassen, Minnesota and by the huge memorial painted on the side of the Chanhassen Movie Theater down the street from his house and recording studio. 

RIP Prince! 

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Next Shoe:

After the drama dies down in the Bac room, the next shoe was started.  Well into the shoe, one of the players were winning almost every hand for the past 7 or 8 hands or so.  One of the players yells out, Hey what are you betting next?  The player that was winning answers back, I do not know.  Going through my process of emlination.  Of course he has already had several beers and his words were slurring a little bit.  The other player presses him, going to wager with you, etc.  The winning player looks up and says, you really want to know how I do it?  And the other guy says yes!  The wining player stands up and takes a deep breath.  Told every one to watch himself.  The guy recites, Eeny Meeny Miny Moe and points alternatly to Banker and Player as he does it.  His last word of the ryhme winds up on Player.  Most already had their wagers set on Banker and all laugh.  One person recites out loud, the power of alcohol and starts laughing.  The winning player pushes up a fairly large stack of black chips and crosses his arms.  Most people are laughing. 

Cards dealt, 7 for the Players side and the guy is already saying Banker lost.  Banker returns that dreeded 6.  Once again.  The person that questioned the winning drinking guy, asked what is next.  The guy once again recites his Eeny Meeny Miny Moe routine and lands on Banker this time.  Of course he started it different than last time, but hey, it is what it is.  So about half the table goes with the guy and the other half against him.  Cards dealt once again.  Player returns a Natural 8.  The winning guy is working the cards.  Has a 3 line card and a 1 line card.  He is taking his time.  Finally says, never lose, either I have an 8 or a 9.  Flips over a 6 and a 3. 

Okay, now most are quite.  Another person gets up and says, listen dude, you can do your Eeny Meeny Miny Moe stuff and land where ever you want because  you already know where the last one will land because  it is only 2 options.  So the winning guy says, how about if we include one of the four Tie options you pick it, the straight up Tie or the 6/6 or the 7/7 or the 6/7 Tie and we will also include the 8/9 Natural and the Panda 8 and the Fortune 7 options.  The other guy says okay sounds fair.  So the guys runs through his regime of the ryhme and lands on Tie.  Finally the cards are dealt and the Players return a total of 2 and the Bankers returns a total of 1.  Most all are on the Bankers side.  Players third card is an 8 reducing them to 0.  The guy that start all this, that challenged the drinking guy has the largest wager and gets the Bankers side third card.  He peeks at it.  Says pretty loud, I can not believe this, I either have a 9 or a ten.  He flops it over and it is a 9 and reduces the Bankers side to a 0 and a Tie.  The dealer is laughing and most others are as well.  The drinking guy stands up and fist pumps the air and tells everyone, I told you so. 

Now a few others are challanging him also.  He runs through his funky ryhme once again.  Lands on Players side.  A few push in large stacks of chips and say, lets do this.  Get it on, lets go.  Cards are dealt.  Players side returns a 3 and Bankers side returns a 4.  Players side flops an 8 and the Bankers side wins. 

Show over.  Agian, only at the baccarat table.  LOL!