I have a perfect example!!!

I will post it under my section with a board of the actual shoe. 

Not patting myself on the back, but I did extremely well and only another 2 people did.  The rest lost or wagered against it all. 

If I didn't remove myself from desire and prediction, I would not have profited nearly as much.  With a possibility of getting sucked in, if I gave back a considerable amount of the win.  Maybe you guys don't, but I do all too often. 

I will post a link here as well to the thread.

CLICK HERE:  https://betselection.cc/actual-baccarat-shoes/think-and-be-smart/msg72689/#msg72689

As you said, "you should understand that there are many different shoe productions incorrectly considered as equal when they are not."

Exactly.  And what I have been highlighting with B&M scoreboards and individual shoe/Sections for years. 

I have capitalized very nicely as well as missing the opportunities being presented because I was desiring something and not realizing at the instant time, what being presented cannot be changed to what I desired, etc.

"Personally I'm not a big fan of revolvers(Especially long-barrel higher calibers: .38, 44,...etc. IMO too cumbersome plus I don't care for the the trigger pull. I have several that I purchased through police auctions mainly as an investment/ not for daily use(or any use). Otherwise, I probably wouldn't own any revolvers.
Just my preference."

Personally I'm not a big fan of revolvers(Especially long-barrel higher calibers: .38, 44,...etc. IMO too cumbersome plus I don't care for the the trigger pull. I have several that I purchased through police auctions mainly as an investment/ not for daily use(or any use). Otherwise, I probably wouldn't own any revolvers.
Just my preference.

Personally I'm not a big fan of revolvers(Especially long-barrel higher calibers: .38, 44,...etc. IMO too cumbersome plus I don't care for the the trigger pull. I have several that I purchased through police auctions mainly as an investment/ not for daily use(or any use). Otherwise, I probably wouldn't own any revolvers.
Just my preference."

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38mE6ba3qj8&pp=ygUiZG8geW91IGZlZWwgbHVja3kgcHVuayBkaXJ0eSBoYXJyeQ%3D%3D

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Las Vegas
A Panoramic Vision

By:  David Miller
12 X 17"
256 Pages
Published 2007

A beautiful oversized amazing book!  So much history and great shots of everything in a casino, the buildings and around Vegas.

I don't believe it is being published any longer but maybe some are available through auction sites, etc.

Highly recommended x100!

7-20-22.

Why?  I don't know, but the few times I observe I would witness those hit.

A Clark County District Court judge has ruled that Las Vegas-based gaming equipment manufacturer Light & Wonder jumped the gun by marketing a no-commission baccarat game from the British Columbia Lottery Corp. called Ruyi Baccarat before an agreement it had with a rival gaming provider had expired.

Read On:

https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/judge-rules-vegas-gaming-company-breached-agreement-by-marketing-baccarat-game-3316135/?utm_campaign=widget&utm_medium=recommend

See attached picture of mine, I play on a Light & Wonder 5 Treasures.

The last couple of months have reflected Atlantic City casinos' offseason period. December didn't change much as the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement reported that properties produced $231.8 million in December revenue.

Atlantic City casinos generated $2.82 billion in 2024 earnings. It's a 1.1% decrease from 2023 when the industry recorded $2.85 billion.

The retail industry finished just ahead of New Jersey online casinos in December, which set another record last month by posting $228 million. After slipping to iGaming revenue for the first time ever in October, Atlantic City has been able to fend off the vertical in each of the last two months.

As the heart of the offseason continues, it'll remain a tough task to do so.

AC casinos slightly increase from November

The 3.5% month-over-month increase from November likely saved the retail industry from falling behind online casinos for the second time ever. Atlantic City casinos posted $223.9 million in November.

Despite the increase on a month-over-month basis, properties remained flat year-over-year, showing a 0.3% decline from December 2023. Jane Bokunewicz, faculty director of the Lloyd D. Levenson Institute of Gaming, Hospitality and Tourism (LIGHT) at the Stockton University School of Business, said in a statement about the status of the retail industry:

"The December calendar did not fall favorably this year for Atlantic City operators. ... Internet gaming, which does not seem to be impacted by the number of weekends in the month in the same way that in-person gaming is, predictably showed a year-over-year increase for the month."

The weekends are a key component to AC casinos. The city had four full weekends in December. Perhaps the holiday provided that slight bump last month for AC operators.

Concerns that online casinos are cannibalizing AC casinos?

It's no secret that iGaming operators are taking the gambling market by storm in states where it is legal, especially in New Jersey. That has brought on fears about the vertical cutting into Atlantic City properties.

Bokunewicz clearly admits to the rapid popularity of online casinos. However, she's not hitting the panic button in Atlantic City, either:

"New Jersey was a fast mover when it came to innovative new gaming products, such as internet gaming, and the state seems to be reaping the benefits of this. The industry is evolving and changing. These new products are very popular and do not seem to have reached their peak.

"At the same time, brick-and-mortar revenues have been relatively flat. They are not showing signs of proportionate decline, which we'd expect if cannibalization were an issue."

Both verticals, but especially AC casinos, will "need to stay on top of emerging trends and responsive to changes in customer preferences," Bokunewicz said.

She also warned against the potential competition the industry could face in light of New York's downstate casinos.

Breaking down Atlantic City casino December revenue

Casino Name.  Numbers to match the 4 areas below from left to right.

Total Gaming Win    Table Games    Poker    Slot Machines

Borgata    $62,727,821 $18,935,367 $1,125,558
$42,666,896

Hard Rock    $42,847,522    $13,066,813  (No Poker) $29,780,709

Resorts    $12,366,684    $2,577,693 (No Poker)  $9,788,991

Ocean Casino    $34,679,044    $7,787,019 (No Poker)  $26,892,025

Harrah's    $19,287,538 $3,709,048    $222,997
$15,355,493

Tropicana    $19,898,558 $5,078,712    $145,393    $14,674,453

Caesars    $19,013,828    $6,808,858 (No Poker)  $12,204,969

Golden Nugget    $10,923,090    $2,419,937  (No Poker)  $8,503,153

Bally's    $10,008,814    $1,903,641  (No Poker)  $8,105,173

Total All Casinos  $231,752,899    $62,287,089    $1,493,948    $167,971,862

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Las Vegas
An Unconventional History

By:  Michelle Ferrari and Stephen Ives

$40.00 Cover Price
272 Pages
Oversized book

Absolut a great history of Las Vegas and gaming as well.  Easy reading.  Great collection of countless items and events that developed Vegas and gaming in the city.  From the earliest days to Vegas today.

To name just a few of the areas covered:

The buildings
The games
The entertainment
The wedding chapels
The mob
The Ratpack
The Frontier
The Stardust
The Sahara
The Flamingo
The Sands

Highly recommend without question!

A little bit about Ping so you understand more. Her voice was sharp but smooth, she had an outrageous personality and devastating wit beyond belief.  She easily combines Asian and American personalities, languages and all sorts of knowledge with a special kind of flamboyant intelligence and uniqueness not many have.  Ping was born in Macau to a Cantonese family mixed with Portuguese ancestry from the nearby province of Guangdong. 

Ping is a complicated woman. Often she opposes her own family's beliefs and supports off-the-wall causes she finds love for.  Some of those causes are way out on the left and many out on the right as well.

Her favorite three movies, The Silence of the Lambs, Psycho and Pulp Fiction. When she wants to relax she would just grab a glass of cognac and make some buttered popcorn, curl up on the couch and watch them.

While she would never admit to alcoholism, she loved her cognac and large amounts of it. She had numerous lesbian relationships but always classifies herself as strictly heterosexual.

Ping is capable of great kindness and generosity to those in need as well as her family and friends. She has enough awards and certificates to line four walls of a super large living room from ceiling to floor, but chooses to keep them all packed away in the storage bin.

Outside of her family and relationships, her love is her work, the casinos and cognac.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YH8mh8e8L_c

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ9dCkuALok&t=11s&pp=ygUOb3duaW5nIG1haG93bnk%3D

REPOST FROM NOVEMBER 27th 2016:

Lots to say, answering some PM's and addressing something someone else had posted.

These days there are primarily Midi or as some say Macau Style and Mini baccarat tables.  The difference being, Midi/Macau the players handle the cards.  The Midi table is the successor of the original larger 14 seat/3 dealer baccarat tables where the shoe was placed with the player in seat #1 and then travelled counterclockwise around the table to each player, upon a player making a winning Players hand.  As long as the player made Banker hands, the shoe stayed with the particular player.

Generally, the house got smacked and smacked real hard on long/longer Banker streaks as compared to the Midi table of today and of course the Mini. There are still some of the larger tables left at the bigger properties and they are always run with the players dealing the cards or the dealers.  And if the dealers are dealing the cards, they are simply making them large Midi tables.

Some players cannot stand the way people handle the cards.  In all essence and for the spirit of the game, most times it is to the players advantage.  If you don't like it and it messes with your thought process, play at the mini tables.  True 100%, no player can change the cards after they are dealt, a dead monkey with strings attached to it, would flip and flop the same cards once dealt. However, at times there are players that will return winning hands the highest majority of times and other players couldn't return a winning hand if the other side had a total of zero showing. Wager with the driver or against, based on how powerful or weak he or she is with the cards. Sounds strange and wacked out to those that never played Big Table or Midi style but it really does  boil down to that for so many.

I have considerably raised my wagers based upon another player's aura-actions and positive results in 'driving' at a Midi or a Big Table.  Under certain circumstances if the dealer was flipping/flopping such as in mini, I might not have wagered the other side, but I most certainly would not have wagered lots of the larger bets I had---when the camaraderie and the person was not doing the 'scene'. 

And there is either camaraderie or alienation here. Yes, a driver does not influence the cards/outcome WHATSOEVER, however and a huge however--the proper driver and the correct aura will influence wagers.  And with the 'music of the street' present, meaning-the sounds and the banter of the floor, the dealer, the pit personnel, the other players, the on-lookers, the cocktail waitress, and everything else around, the correct driver(s) can be an explosive 'pat on the back' and motivator.

And the passion---OMG!  Yes, absolute passion mixed with greed, desire and a bit of anger in most player's cases.  The good times-the bad times, that happen at the baccarat tables around the country, around the world.  For those of you who don't play baccarat or play only on-line, you will not relate or understand what really happens at the live Midi/Big Table baccarat tables anyway. 

The personalities, the actions, the shenanigans, the talk, the banter, the build ups and the let downs.  It's all there on a consistent basis, some nights are abundant with it all and others are lax.  But play on a regular basis and it will prevail. 

When a player that is 'driving' actually plays with his heart and soul and not to put on a 'show' he really does wind up putting on a 3 ring circus most times.  I am sorry to those that don't agree with the statement I just said or if I despised myself, however; I am only relaying this information and what actually happens.  I have tons of history with numerous gaming jurisdictions and I would just have to classify and say that, the Big Table bac days were the absolute best and far in every way--out does what happens with the majority of players and games at Midi tables today.  Mostly for two reasons.  The way so many players wager and believe in the 'cut' and their failure to play both sides, weak and strong.  Also, throw in the disbelief of 'what actually happens or can happen in playing baccarat'. 

There is no end to this thread.  I merely wanted to start something that addresses the game in overall view without the technical aspect of it.  Because in reality, there is a lot more going on than what the shoe produces!

One scenario.  Playing Midi, full table.  It was just chop-chop for numerous hands that followed a section of a few doubles and a couple of singles.  A tie and no Fortune 7's yet.  Around hand 25.  The 2nd shoe into the evening with most.  Last shoe nothing, everyone lost or is about even at best.  Yes, the last shoe and a quarter was pretty much unwinnable.  Meaning, whatever anyone thought or wagered on for whatever reason, it cut to the other side.  Happens at times.  Three Bankers just came out and the player driving wagered table max each time.  First hand everyone was on Players and players had a 6.  The sole player on Banker gets the cards and mumbles, '7 baby--7 baby, I need this please'.  He flops a monkey and says '3 sides'.  He turns the card long ways and starts the peel, real real slow.  The players all on the Players side are getting frustrated, baccarat at its best.  He slows down, puts the cigarette in his mouth and looks at the dealer.  Tell the dealer, 'a hundred for you if you gave me a 7 or an 8'.  He says no dot on it and turns it around.  Now it has been at least 45 seconds if not more.  Everyone is like come on bro let's go.  He starts the peel and then slams the 7 right side up. Now the second hand is coming out and half of the players are on Banker with the same driver and half are stuck in the 'cut' mode of thinking.  Once again the cards for the Player's side totals 0.  Bankers side returns 2.  Players side gets a card and the player driving says it a three line card.  Squeezes the heck out of the one side trying for an 8.  Turns the card and says maybe a 7, could be a six.  The other players are saying, don't matter we will win with a 6.  He flops a 6 after a few seconds.  Dealer slide the driver once again a card for the obnoxious driver.  I had $125.00 on Fortune 7 and the driver had $75.00 and most of the other players on Bankers had something on there and 1 player out of the Players side had a quarter up on the F7 as well.  Once again, the cigarette into his mouth, he looks around the table and says, '2 side-3 side no 8 and we are good huh'?  He takes a quick peek at the side and pops back up, '2 side baby, yes a 2 side--tie or hit the Fortune 7'.  He scoots his chair back and his chest is on the rail of the table.  I stand up and literally scream for a 5 and then say 5 for five thousand.  The floor person comes over.  The dealers at the next table are saying something about the nickel next to mine and the drivers' Fortune 7 wagers.  Says, 'looks like $410.00 if you gave that guy a 5'.  The dealers keep their own tips at this property.  The driver is taking his time and yes, everyone is quite except for me.  Then all of a sudden a female stands up and shouts, 'come the hell on' and mumbles something in Vietnamese that wasn't nice.  The driver stops for a second, looks at the female, looks at me, looks at the dealer, then he reaches across two spots and rubs the card on the number 5 seat number on the felt.  Rubs and rubs. Leaves it face down and tells the dealer, you turn it.  It is a 5.  Fortune 7.  Yes Baby!  Beautiful, absolutely beautiful.  The same driver goes on to make 4 more Bankers after that Fortune 7 hit.  wasn't a long run but a solid 6 and we are all good.  That's baccarat with a driver that can drive.

What so many fail to realize is the power of camaraderie coupled with the influence and the motivating factor of it.  Yes, at times it could work both ways but when it is positive and the table is flowing, it is much easier IMO and for so many I play with, to wager larger and win considerably more than at a mini table. As I said, the passion-greed-high fiving-large wins-players driving with guts and flopping the cards making it all go our way.  It is the aura mixed in with the knowledge and conscious thought that we wagered on the person rather than the cards that makes this click in ways that are so hard to explain and define. When you see some of the players that really want to wager the opposite side that the great driver or the highest wagering player is not wagering, and then pulls his wager down and says, 'go ahead--I'm going to stay out'.  That is class-real class, no matter if the wager would have won or lost.  It is an unwritten move of sheer respect and class to do that.  Happens all the time.  On the other hand, if there is a person at the table that really feels like he has to wager the other side in that case, he normally would have the dealer flop the cards.  Again, a sign of that unwritten respect for the other players.

My Summation.  There are underlying reasonings for almost everything.  Some written, some published, some known and yet.....others are not.

Well pre-2000, there were mostly the bac big tables where 2 dealers would work the double bank chip rack and 7 people can play on each end.  One dealer would stand opposite the chip rack in the middle of the table (see picture below where the indent is and place the players cards down by the rail and the bankers cards above those), he or she would receive the cards from each person when they had the shoe.  The shoe would start in seat #1 and be past around the table counter clockwise.  The person with the shoe would deal one card for the player and slide it to the dealer standing and then the next card for banker with its corner under the shoe, third card slid for the player again to the standing dealer, fourth card again under the corner of the shoe. You could wager either player or banker of course.  If you were high wagering player, you would then slide the bankers cards to the dealer standing and you would receive the players cards back to open.  If you were not high wagering players bet, they were slid to whomever was.  Then you would open the bankers cards no matter the amount you had wagered.  You kept the shoe as long as you made winning banker hands. 

There was always at least a $100.00 minimum on the table.  The game was very slow and there were no automatic shufflers.  Took at least 20-30 mins for the shuffle. 

Most all played same side and in sync.  Huge camaraderie prevailed most all the time.  Lots of suspense, superstition and table friendships no matter who was there.

Mini tables were on the main floor with pretty much the same dealing as today.  No midi styles back then.  No automatic shuffling as well.  Table minimums usually $25/50 to about $2,500. 

Countless believers and protocols in bending cards at the big table.  Calling cards, blowing on them, poking them with pens, drizzling magic dust on them, long peeling back times and all kinds of slang names for what was needed or wished for, etc,

IMO the game evolved into what the casinos desired it to be.  I will say, the big tables would cost the casinos multi millions in a shoe or two when the shoes were being won.