Quote from: AsymBacGuy on October 14, 2019, 08:41:21 PM
That's a good list indeed.
Probably casinos would win much less if every player will follow religiously those guidelines.

You have to learn that the shoe you are gambling at, has no dependency or connection to any statistical or other tangible or intangible research or thought, anywhere, anyplace, any way, shape or form


I agree with this statement only because you used the word "gambling".

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Matches what you wrote yesterday within your thread.

The biggest jerk lady in politics I ever seen in my entire life, she needs to go back to California, resign and hide herself in a closet for the rest of her life.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/22/pelosi-coronavirus-relief-package-142261

Oh yeah, don't forget some of the other things I wrote and one of the most important is  0, 1, 2, 3 ties and how things seem to stay the same no matter if it's players or ones and twos or whatever, but I find that holds true more so towards strong  players or chopping rather than Banker's clumping together, reference the low amounts of ties such as what's in these two shoes in the link.

https://betselection.cc/wagering-intricacies/heavy-player-bet-what-is-being-presented/

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on March 23, 2020, 02:17:43 AM
Summarizing:

- no way you can find a long term profitable betting plan without speculating that outcomes are not perfectly randomly placed as random bac outcomes are unbeatable by a 1 billion degree. 

-  to ascertain outcomes are not properly random produced only place selection and probability after events tools can help you by strict scientifically accurate assessments. Some bac productions are better than others, meaning they involve a higher unrandomness factor.

- best way to take an advantage without suffering the variance impact is by looking just for one unit profit per a given amount of hands.

- no matter how's your strategy and which side you choose to bet, each set of two consecutive wagers must get a way higher 75% probability to win. Considering as Banker side as a steady advantaged option is one of the biggest mistake to make. Asym hands favoviring Banker don't come out so often, especially whether consecutively taken.

-  the game cannot be altered or predicted by human considerations, otherwise it wouldn't exist.

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Explaining certain finds are difficult.  Great writing.

Add my Sections & Turning Points and a player can start capitalize!

And so many baccarat players forget about that 5th card coming out that more often favors the players side rather than the bankers.   Especially with something that's foreseeable within a section.

Such as when the players have zero or even a 1, so often players pull that big card meaning a six, seven or eight and it puts the bankers out of the game for that hand or the players have that three, four, five or six and the players pull that small card again it puts the bankers out of the game for that hand.  And it happens repeatedly within a section like three or four players to one Banker, four or five players to one or two bankers then another one or two or three players to one banker and then three or four players to one or two bankers and then a little mini run comes out of 5, 6, 7, 8 players to one or two Bankers before it straightens out. 

And it's so easy to capitalize on all those players versus waiting for the bank to get strong. At least in my opinion, you know what I'm talking about.

Our love for gaming and entertainment will not stop. With that said, life goes on and we have to deal with what gets handed to us on a daily basis with the current situation surrounding the C-19 crisis.  I am not a full-time, part-time or any type of  advocate of politics by any means, but I do have my likes and my dislikes as well, the same as everyone of us does. But I will say that I'm quite impressed with the White House press conference that was on a few hours ago here and for reference it is Saturday March 21st.

The press conference that was at the White House with Donald Trump and his staff members, said a lot and was quite informative.  Like what Trump said, many administrations preceded himself and they did nothing or very little to stock inventory or address anything that we need to properly address and combat against the C-19 in the current crisis. Of course the majority of everybody is blaming it on him, when it's not his fault.

This whole crisis is simply unprecedented and thus we learn, we gain experience and we move forward. No matter how costly in health, life and the economy. Many crises pandemic events have happened in the past and unfortunately, the future holds other crisis events of unknown types, whether in the United States or other countries.

Sure in the United States we closed the majority of everything down in rapid speed, both voluntarily and involuntarily, but the fact is it was done and hopefully that will curve part of our problem here in the United States. What was done with the C-19 crisis prior to it reaching the United States and other countries such as China and parts of Europe, is a serious issue as well as what is here in the United States.  We have to live with this and we have to address it. DO YOUR PART!

What I see in the media with most reporters are blaming and finger-pointing and causing farther anxiety and problems.  I wasn't entirely happy with Trump's responses until today and what was detailed and spoke about in previous press conferences. The press conference today was reality and I wholeheartedly do not believe that any other president could have foreseen or avoided what we are currently experiencing and if they did we would not be experiencing everything we currently are.  We would be stocked up on everything we need and we would have known what course to take and we would have had all the resources already in place and we could have deployed them within a matter of hours.  But they were not there from the former presidents and Administrations, that is a sad fact.  So that alleviates blaming Trump for not being ready for this. I'm not going to debate the subject and that's all I wanted to say about it.

Bottom line is we did not have an advance warning that is the hardcore reason and what is happening is happening. There was no way to properly prepare for this unfortunate event and hopefully we will learn from what we have to endure.

So relax a bit,  do not be trying to do things that are just plain against Common Sense, help those that you can and be safe.   Think and be strong is the best you can do. Once the crisis is over things will get back to normal in due course.

Regardless, we are here and we will remain committed to running our forum and giving you an outlet for gaming communications and related matter. I do have some exciting and new avenues to add to our Forum here at BetSelection, in conjunction with one of our new commercial sponsors. We are currently planning for our gaming endeavors, exploits and interests at brick-and-mortar casinos which are reality related, with interaction to be brought into our Forum.

In the meantime be safe, take care of yourself and those around you.

Sincerely, Alrelax. Board Owner and Administrator.

From the Wynn & Encore:

In order to keep our employees and guests safe, we have decided to close Wynn Las Vegas and Encore on Tuesday, March 17, at 6 pm. We anticipate that we will be closed for two weeks, after which we will evaluate the situation.

Almost all Las Vegas Casino will close:

Here is the announcement from MGM:

Las Vegas Resorts Temporary Closure Information
MGM Resorts will temporarily suspend operations at its Las Vegas properties, effective Tuesday, March 17. Casino operations will close at midnight on Monday, March 16, followed by hotel operations.

We will continue to support our employees, guests, and communities in every way that we can during this period.

We are taking reservations for arrivals beginning Thursday, April 2nd. We look forward to welcoming you to your favorite MGM Resort soon.

It is an election year, the democrats and the republicans are fighting since Clinton/Democrats lost larger than ever!  Everything is cyclic, calm down.  Don't you remember H1N1 from Mexico, 300,000 USA infected, 12,000 to 20,000 confirmed deaths.  Great media thing right now, everything is instant everything now, google, Facebook, messaging, etc.  Almost no more real mail, fax, etc.  Everything has to be right now, that is our society because of money, the tech age, etc.  The media is having a field day, more clicks--more viewers, equal more revenue, simple.  Yes there is a disease but diseases come and go every so often like this. 

I remember gas station rationing in the mid 70's, i was in high school, i worked at a gas station.  Energy crisis, oil crisis, etc.  Our so-called gas and oil reserves in the USA were almost out.  So the government made gas rationing, Don't forget this was before the emissions stuff on cars and the cars were lucky if they got 10-15 MPG at best.  The rationing was odd numbered license plates one day and even the next and max of 10 gals. Of course you could have went to two stations and got 20 gallons, LOL, no computers back then to track anything.  Anyway, all that did was cause crisis and made emissions for the cars and trucks come about and made gas prices go from 40 cents and 50 cents to like well over $1.00 within a month or less. The list goes on.

Yes right now there is a panic and it suits the media, the democrats and other people.  It hurts once again the hard working people and the small business owner, that makes an honest living and work hard.  If they build more hospitals and  medical centers and do not need them, their way out is "we saved hundreds of thousands of lives if not millions" or "we were ready for the worst", and "Lucky we did not need it".  If they do not and we needed it, they also win because they were right and the other side was wrong. The republicans win if it is not as bad as it is supposed to be, but lose if they do not take all the action the democrats are calling for.

As far as all the numbers, why is it the political and the news media is calling for Chaos and panic.  Why is not every hospital, doctor and medical professional all screaming, protesting and demanding everything the media and politicians are?  Numbers do not add up, sorry.  I am not saying either side is lying or exaggerating, just saying, it does not honestly add up.

And by the way, why is it the medical and health field as well as the insurance field always seems to have a hand in all these kind of things?  Oh let us not forget about the wonderful pharmaceutical companies. 

As far as H1N1 virus:

Additionally, CDC estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first year the virus circulated. ** Globally, 80 percent of (H1N1)pdm09 virus-related deaths were estimated to have occurred in people younger than 65 years of age.Jun 11, 2019


As far as Coronavirus:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Everything along these lines in cycles.  Same with H1N1 or whatever it was. If you remember from our neighbor, the Mexicans:


"The virus had spread to the US from an outbreak in Mexico. As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died"

https://www.ktnv.com/news/walmart-evacuated-after-hazmat-suited-man-sprays-liquid


https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/man-in-hazmat-suit-runs-into-walmart-in-las-vegas-sprays-items-1981248/

There are numerous casino closing that will be taking place throughout the USA.  Some planned and some already in effect.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/hotels/2020/03/14/coronavirus-las-vegas-wynn-resorts-closing-poker-room-spas/5050232002/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/2020/03/13/coronavirus-layoffs-coming-mgm-resorts-employees-tourism-slows/5048991002/

https://www.cleveland.com/coronavirus/2020/03/ohios-casinos-racinos-must-shut-down-or-keep-customers-workers-below-a-total-of-100.html

https://www.al.com/news/2020/03/wind-creek-casinos-in-alabama-closing-for-24-hours-after-visitor-tests-positive-for-coronavirus.html

https://www.al.com/news/2020/03/wind-creek-casinos-in-alabama-closing-for-24-hours-after-visitor-tests-positive-for-coronavirus.html

https://www.pennlive.com/coronavirus/2020/03/pa-casino-closes-due-to-concern-of-coronavirus.html

The real baccarat so many, the highest majority of all real B&M Players I am extremely safe to say, have this attached to themselves:

"Baccarat sucks in many that see easy money and riches.  In live casinos there are a ton of excuses players blame for their loses, other players, rigged machine shuffles, fast dealers, etc.  But in all cases it is the player with delusions of fantasy."

What can a smart player do to really play the right way?

100% the game is patience, willpower, some type of progression/regression on wagers, money management methods you understand, use and religiously live by, and the experience that comes with losing in the past if one can change their own ways.  The more you win the more you lust in the game, the harder and tougher you make it for yourself.

Additionally. 

Regarding Casino Marker Accounts. 

https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2014/dec/3/debtors-prisons-prevail-las-vegas-thanks-prosecutors-and-casino-markers-law/

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2011/jan/30/taking-casinos-ride/

A Credit Line is a Marker Account.  Period.

I have been questioned about and have knowledge of someone that actively writes on the internet and claims to be always winning, fully comped and plays on casino credit the game of baccarat, etc., etc., etc., and so on.  There is no definitive proof but the stories are detailed, strong and deep.  I know otherwise and I have over 40 years of experience, been writing here and often challenged and talked about.  I tried to eliminate much of the drama, fallacies of internet soap opera only testing theories that are portrayed as real, profitable and engaged by the member posting same, but are no more real than watching a TV show that is titled, 'Reality Show Such and Such'.

The person I am talking about has posted, among other things, that I will not publicly challenge or quote, incorporates into articles and statements about casino credit in Las Vegas into his writings.  Because a large part of his writings revolve around casino credit, markers, comps, etc., etc., his story is inaccurate, false and not portraying the real information about Casino Credit Markers, AKA: Credit Line Accounts.   

And simply, that is why all Casino Markers resemble checks!!!  What so many internet forum readers fail to realize!  A Casino Marker is a check, you do not pay it, you can get charged criminally.  There are not two types of credit accounts in well over 20 years, give or take a few. 

First of all, he claims if one has casino credit and not just check cashing privileges, they will be comped extra and, in and above others with front money account deposits and a so-called regular casino marker accounts, which he claims there are two types of credit accounts.  A true credit marker and a marker against your checking account, which he does classify as only a check cashing privilege. 

Which is totally not correct.  Maybe years ago it was, meaning prior to 2000, so it has been at least a min of 20 years that the current and only system of casino credit is in place.  Second, all casino credit is a Marker system against your bank account, nothing else.  Simply, you are backing up your agreement with the casino to pay your Marker upon departure from the property.  You do have 30 days in all cases, but if you do not pay, they will ACH or withdraw, cash your check in so many words or by electronic means these days, to pay your Marker.  If you check does not clear or if your bank account does not pay their ACH request, you are subject to criminal charges, in each and every case of casino credit agreements these days, period, end of story.   

A person can also deposit what they call Front Money, and also draw a marker against it.  You deposit a certain amount of money, whatever you want with the casino cage and then you request whatever portion of it you desire at the table.  The floor person will print a marker out, the same as they would on a credit line against your bank account as I described within this thread, and you sign it.  Your chips are then given to you and you are free to do what you desire with them.  Gamble them, redeposit to your Front Money or cash them out.  No one at the table will know the difference if it is Front Money Account or Credit Line.  People do this for numerous reasons.  Some of them are, they do not want to buy in with larger amounts of money at the table, they rather it all be on deposit for getting additional comps or casino host reasons because they were not established at the casino and needed to shoe their sincerity and ability to buy-in with a certain amount of money, etc.  Also for the CTR factors and so on, already being performed and filed.

As far as the comp thing.  Has nothing to do with Casino Credit, AKA Markers, etc.  Casino comps are issued through an automatic rating system of Time Played, Average Wager, and Type of Game.  Of course there are what they call discretionary comps and earned comps.  Years ago, prior to say 2008 or so, it was all different.  Now all has been changed.  Including the loss of earned points which was a great thing while it lasted, where players earned points and those points stayed for your retail use on the properties and your host would comp RFB&I items while you got to retain your points.  But no longer.  Much stricter now as the larger corporate casino chains, such as MGM and CET focuses so much on selling other non-casino department revenue producers such as restaurants, spa, night clubs, hotel rooms, etc., etc., and so on.  Before it was casino was everything, but like I said, that has all changed the past 12 years or so.  There is also other considerations for the larger players, such as how many people is in their party that are non-players.  How long has the person been coming to our property and what is his true averages, not just today or last trip or last month, etc. 

For those of you that think games do not matter in comp levels and issuance of comps, you are totally wrong.  Poker draws very little comp issuance, no matter what size wagers and money you have.  While large slot players would naturally draw the most.  Bac players draw larger depending on their history at the casino, etc. 

As far as levels of players, that would vary from casino property to casino property in large differences depending on the property, their table game action and limits.  But a $250,000.00 Front Money Deposit player would get more comp issuance in a comparison right off the bat, than a $250,000.00 Credit Marker player, because they casino see the cash and has no worries about collection, etc. 

Comps are difficult to understand for people that have no experience with them or little.  They vary with large comparison from one property to another.  However, the internet writer that I am referring to, makes numerous and blatantly incorrect statements about comps and their issuance by casino properties with preference to Credit Marker players, etc. 

Be careful what you read on the forums.  Most people cannot challenge properly the so-called VIP or high wagering players here, because there are so few that ever do read these forums, let alone being a member and writing on them. 

As far as opening a Credit Line, you have to have a checking/bank account and they will call them and verify such.  You have to have the same one for a bare min of 6 months and whatever your average daily balance in cash is, your Marker Account line will not be above that amount.  If you have an average daily cash balance for 6 months plus of say $61,200.00, I guarantee you, that almost all casinos will not issue you more than a $50,000.00 line.  Many will not do that, each casino chain has their own protocols as to a certain percentage of what your 6 month average daily cash collected balance will be set at, some or 90%, others are 75% and yet other might issue you a 50% line limit against your average bank balance, etc.  Also depends how long you have been playing at the casino and your history of play, etc.   

But in each and every case of Nevada casino Credit Line Marker Accounts, every single one of them will be a Marker Account against your bank account, PERIOD.  There are not two types of credit line accounts like the person is implying.  Such as a true credit unsecured line, where if you lose your money it will be a civil matter and no criminal charges can be filed and the casino cannot ACH or even attempt to withdraw the money from your bank account.  That does not exist any longer.  And as the person is trying to through misleading truths out there, the Credit Line Marker Account is NOT a check cashing privilege, as I already explained.   

I bring this up and post this info to write the real information and how the casinos operate, not to discredit, humiliate or chastise another forum member.

Here is a link to a current credit marker account application which spells it all out, I copy and pasted the important parts of it below for your ready reference:

https://assets.ctfassets.net/sahy2rpqbnsp/2E09h4GZI4yi6eoQAeSiaA/496c25714d6c418450d1f6b582e1dd6f/CasinoCredit_Application_2018.pdf

Here is one of the Las Vegas attorney firm that specialize in defense and assisting casino customers that do get sucked in and go on tilt.  They also explain it, feel free to Google, Casino Credit or Casino Markers in Las Vegas and research it all yourself:

https://www.thegerstenlawfirm.com/nevada-criminal-defense/2019/03/21/relying-on-casino-markers-to-gamble/

"A casino marker is not like a line of credit or a credit card.  In Nevada, it's treated as a personal check.  If you do not pay your markers, the casino deposits your check into your bank account to draw out the money you owe.  If you don't have sufficient funds to pay off the marker, the casino marker becomes a bad check under Nevada law.

If the casino fails in its attempt to get the funds from your bank account, they notify you.  If you don't respond within ten (10) days, the casino notifies the Bad Check Unit of the Clark County District Attorney's Office.  (Yes, there is an entire unit dedicated to collecting unpaid casino markers.  In one recent year, the Unit reportedly pursued more than 2600 cases and made $2.2 million from marker cases.)"  From an attorney's firm web-site.

Parts of a current credit application are posted below, for any type of casino credit no matter how it is classified, casino markers or otherwise.  Check Cashing Privileges is NOT CASINO credit, that is entirely something else between yourself and the casino, but in most cases without application and allowed if a third party clears you, such as Tele-Check, or one of the other numerous check cashing guarantee services that each and every casino uses.  Do not mix the two up.


"I, the undersigned, hereby give Nevada Property 1 LLC dba The Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas and its affiliates (CLV) authorization to obtain and verify my financial information (including but not limited to account balance information) from any source, obtain my financial and employment history, and exchange information with others about my financial and account experience with CLV. I agree not to hold CLV responsible or liable for the information released or for its use of any such information. I agree that CLV may retain and use the information on this application and any information it receives based on my authorization whether or not I am granted marker signing privileges.

As a condition to being granted marker signing privileges, I agree to sign credit instruments, also known as markers or checks (Markers) (e.g., chips, cash, or tokens) in the amount of the funds issued to me. Further, I authorize CLV to complete any of the following information on those markers: (1) name of payee, (2) a date, (3) name, account number and/or address of any of my banks and financial institutions, (4) electronic encoding of the above, and (5) as otherwise authorized by the law. The information inserted may be for any account from which I now or may in the future have the right to withdraw funds, regardless of whether that account now exists, and whether I provided the information on the account to CL.

I REPRESENT THAT AT THE TIME I SIGN ANY MARKER, I HAVE ON DEPOSIT IN ACCOUNTS ON WHICH I AM AN AUTHORIZED SIGNATORY FOR ALL PURPOSES, WITHOUT RESTRICTION, FUNDS SUFFICIENT TO PAY SUCH MARKER UPON DEMAND OR PRESENTMENT.

I acknowledge that irrespective of any currency exchange laws in the country in which I reside, I have the ability and intent to legally pay through my bank or financial institution the funds represented by the markers signed by me and given to CLV. I also acknowledge that an independent agent collecting front money deposits or payments on my outstanding balance is my agent and not an agent for CLV or any of its affiliates.

I agree that each Marker I sign is a separate transaction. If I receive the funds before I execute a marker, I promptly will sign a Marker when presented to me in the amount of the funds I received.

I agree that this application and all credit issued pursuant thereto will be governed, construed and interpreted pursuant to the laws of the State of Nevada and venue shall lie solely in that state. I agree that CLV may litigate any dispute involving the credit line, the debt or the payee in any court, state or federal, in Nevada. I submit to the jurisdiction of any court, state or federal, in the state of Nevada, and waive any requirement of presentment and waive any objection I may have to jurisdiction in such courts.

I hereby authorize CLV, in its sole discretion, to apply any and all chips I may redeem first to the reduction of any outstanding credit balance, with the remainder, if any, to be returned to me. In addition to any amounts authorized by law, I will pay interest at the rate of eighteen percent (18%) per annum, unless prohibited by Nevada law, and in such case at the highest amount permitted by Nevada law, from the date of issuance of the Marker (if dishonored by a financial institution) and all costs of collecting, including attorney's fees and court costs.

Warning: For the purposes of Nevada law, a credit instrument is identical to a personal check and may be deposited in or presented for payment to a bank or other financial institution on which the credit instrument is drawn. Willfully drawing or passing a credit instrument with the intent to defraud, including knowing that there are insufficient funds in an account upon which it may be drawn, is a crime in the State of Nevada which may result in criminal prosecution in addition to civil proceedings to collect the outstanding debt.

I certify that I am 21 years of age or older. I am aware that this application is required to be prepared by the Nevada State Gaming Control Board regulations of the State of Nevada, and I may be subject to civil or criminal liability if any material information provided by me is willfully false.