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#101
Straight-up / "Great Square" System
June 01, 2013, 06:14:58 PM
System for playing roulette "Great Square"

System: for 3 up to 7 numbers.
No progression needed. Only flat bets.
Very great revenue.
Suggested bankroll: 152 chips, you can also use less.

Introduction

As most professional gamblers know, the probability that any one of the 37 numbers will be drawn in a single spin is 2.7, or 1 / 37. The "law of the third" tells us that in a complete cycle of 37 spins, there will be only 24 numbers drawn one or more times, while the other 13 will not appear.

Negative probability is (36/37) 1937 = 0.3628 = 36.28%, and 37 * 0.3628 = 13.42. 13.42, as you can see, is more likely 14 than 13 numbers.

To obtain more precision, years ago, we found a cycle of 39 spins instead of a cycle of 37. Negative probability is (36/37) 39 = 0.3435 or 34.35%, and 37 * 0.3435 = 12.7.

This "long cycle" gives us 13 numbers that will not come out. The following system is based on the "cycle in 39" (the Cycle 39 is applicable also for the OO wheel).

It uses only numbers in frequency (normal or super), and excludes the absent ones (joined probability distribution).

The Rules

Every Game is a complete game - do not use the same Table for different games.

For every Game you need a total of 24 spins before to bet and others 5-12 spins (in the worst cases) before winning.

Before using the table below for the first time it is important to make further copies of it, since one Table is used and discarded for each game (this advice will avoid you to make errors while recording spins).

The collecting zone:
We need to note a total of 24 spins.
We need only the numbers drawn two (and only two) times.
In fact we will bet them immediately according on these rules:

The attack zone:
The number of spins to bet is calculated as follows:
36 / n, where n is number of targets obtained.
For example, if there are four targets then play should stop if no win occurs by the 9th spin, if there are five targets play for eight spins (36 / 5 = 7,2 that means 7, if there are 6 targets play for six spins, and so on.

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Usually you will bet 4 or 5 number (the 80% of the times) but sometimes you can also obtain 6-7 or three numbers to bet. Remember that you must never bet less than three number or more than 7 numbers if they happen. In this (very rare) case start a new game.

The second attack chance:
In the most numbers of games you will win before the end of the attack zone. In this case is possible to continue betting on the remaining numbers.

You must only remember that you don't have to continue betting after the end of the attack zone.

You don't have to continue to play if the numbers to bet are less than three, in fact if you are playing a game and after 24 spins (collecting zone) you obtain three numbers to bet for 12 successive spins (attack zone), if you win after three spins you remain with only two numbers bet, in this case you can't use the second chance.

Instead, if you are playing another game and after the collecting zone you obtain six numbers to bet and you win for the first time at the second spin (spin number 26 from the beginning of the game), you can use the second chance for: 7-2 = 5 successive spins (7 because we are only play the remaining five numbers).

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Where X is the spins of the attack zone when you won the first time.

Examples

3,6,14,2,27,20,4,2,17,6,11,31,20,34,1,31,13,25,3,17,31,5,5,7 (end of first 24 spins) 15,20,18,15,17 (theoretical attack zone spins)

In this case after the first 24 spins we have 6 numbers to bet (2,3,5,6,17,20) for a maximum of six spins. At the second spin, we win with the number 20!, We want to continue with the second chance, we bet only five number (2,3,5,6,17) for 7-2 = 5 successive spins and we will win again after 3 spins! (At the 1929 spin from the beginning of the game).
#102
Straight-up / Leader System
May 28, 2013, 03:38:48 PM
We wait until one number have 4 apparition.(Now this number is the leader)
We bet on this number. (flat bet)
If in this time appear one other number (numbers) hit 4 times we bet and
this numbers.
When one of this numbers hit (5 apparition) we bet only on this number
(the new leader).We remove other numbers.
We continue bet in this mode (flat) until we have a winning.
Here we have two options :
1.If we have positive balance we stop and we begin new session.
2.We continue beting in this mode until we obtain a satisfactory winning.

Exemple (forced) :

1 2 16 1 0 33 1 16 1 16 17 33 16 33 16 28 29 30 1 3 33 33 32 33


1 2 16 1 0 33 1 16 1 (we bet on number 1 - 4 apparition leader) 16 17 33 16 (now we bet 1 and 16 both have 4 apparition ) 33 16.Now we bet only number 16 (5 apparitions) this is the new leader. 28 29 30 1 (1 and 16 have 5 apparitions so bet 1 and 16) 3 33 33
(33 have now 5 apparition so we bet now 1 16 33 ) 32 33 .In this moment number 33 have 6 aparitions so is the new leader.We bet now only on number 33)

The system is very simple and profitable.My english make it complicate so
if one of you guys can ,,translate'' please help.

Conclusion : we bet only in leaders.
Leaders = number or numbers with many hits. (aparition)
I now leader is only one so i make a pleonasm (when i say bet on numbers with many hits) but often we bet only one number.

PRO :
Verry small bankroll.
Playable in real casino (for track numbers you need one paper an pencil.)
After one number have 4 apparition we bet every spin.



I test this system in RX and work great.
I played this system in online casino and bring me winnings.

For test manual with RX open statistics, numbers, bar chart window.

Cheers

Apache





Mod. by Arteinvivo



Here is a new variation on Apache's system.

Rules:

1) We wait until one number hit 4 times.(This number is the leader)
2) We bet on this number using a base bet of 1 unit.
3) You add any numbers which reach the same count as our current leader.
4) When one of these numbers hit ( shows 5 times) we bet only on this number
(the new leader).We remove the other numbers in our set.

But each time a new leader take the lead you double your base bet unit. You do this until your attack profit gets over zero. Then you start a new attack using the same strategy.

The results are spectacular.
#103
Street / Streets by zio_Ninni
May 28, 2013, 03:37:43 PM
Hi everyone

I have been playing this system for a while now with great success. Rules are as follows:

1. every time a number hits, start betting on the other two numbers from the same street, ex. if #1 hits start betting on #2 and #3

2. continue adding numbers in this fashion after each spin

3. when you get a hit, proceed as follows:

3a. if profit is higher than 10 units, then reset and start again
3b. if profit is below 10 units then remove the two numbers from the street that just hit and add 1 unit to all the other numbers. Continue betting until profit is higher than 10 units
3c. if you get a second hit and still not in profit, remove the two numbers from the street that just hit, add another unit to all numbers and continue

Of course, you can reset at any profit, however I have been playing resetting on any profit higher than 10 units and a stop loss of 200 units.

Below is an example from live play:

Number spun/ Amount bet/ Amount won/ Running total/ Comments
25------------/ -------------/ --------------/ ----------------/ bet on 26 and 27
33------------/ -2 ----------/ --------------/ -2 ------------/ add 31 and 32
14------------/ -4 ----------/ --------------/ -6 -------------/ add 13 and 15
06------------/ -6 ----------/ --------------/ -12------------/ add 4 and 5
28------------/ -8 ----------/ --------------/ -20------------/ add 29 and 30
20------------/ -10 ---------/ --------------/ -30------------/ add 19 and 21
22------------/ -12 ---------/ --------------/ -42------------/ add 23 and 24
23------------/ -14 ---------/ 36 -----------/ -20------------/ remove 23 and 24 and add 1 unit to the rest
20------------/ -24 ---------/ --------------/ -44------------/ no numbers to add because 20 just repeated so we continue
32------------/ -24 ---------/ 72 -----------/ 4 ------------/ running total less than 10 unit so we continue, remove 31 and 32 and add 1 unit to all
5 ------------/ -30 ---------/ 108 -----------/ 82 ------------/ profit target exceeded, we reset

Hope this helps.

credit to zio_Ninni
#104
Multiple locations / Holy Grail by Buffster
May 26, 2013, 12:13:19 PM
All bets are flat.
As soon as overall profit is attained you start over.
Always eliminate a section (bet) as you win.
Ex. If win on double street ... eliminate that double street.
If win on single street ... eliminate that single street.
If win on split ... eliminate that split.

Start Betting

Look at the last outcome on the wheel and remove that dozen section from the layout.
Your left with 2 dozens ( 4 double streets).
All double streets are independent bets which must be played out till profit is attained.
Session is over when overall profit is attained or after 35th spin.

Betting scheme :

1 unit for 5 spins on double street(s).
1 unit for 6 spins on single street(s).
1 unit for 6 spins on each split(s) if 2 adjoining streets are available, if 2 adjoining streets are not available then decompose that street into single numbers and bet 1 unit on each.
1 unit on each number for 18 spins.


Don't forget as soon as overall profit is attained or after 35th spin you stop and start over.

I play with 5$ units and average about 100$/hr profits.

If you calculate a losing session without any wins whatsoever ... it does look as if you will lose a bundle ... but you always have wins along the way which compensate your loss ... so a losing session is not all that bad.


Try it and see ... all comments are welcomed ( positive or negative).


Merry Christmas to all

Buffster


P.S. Anybody wanting to say this strategy belongs to them and wants to sell it .... KNOCK YOURSELF OUT.
#105
Straight-up / Don Young Snip
May 24, 2013, 04:04:15 PM
May be helpful to a reader.

Rules:
1. Consider the last number on the marquee (neon strip that gives the last eighteen numbers spun) and check two right and two left of that number. If these hot wheel numbers are three out of the last five spins you are ready to proceed.
2. Compute each of these hot wheel numbers to see if it had been up an additional time within eighteen spins. If so you are ready to play the numbers qualifying for both rules. (Generally one or two numbers).
Skip one spin and play the qualifying numbers three times or until you win.  Wait for the next set of qualifiers.
Example: last five spins are 29-11-24-25-10.
Looks like three of five might be close so you check the last number which is 10.
Two right and left of ten are 25-29 and 27-00. Numbers 10-25 and 29 meet our requirements.  In checking back on the marquee you find that number 25 has been up another time in the past 18 spins. After skipping one spin --- Play number 25 only for three times or until you win. After playing stop and wait for a new play.
#106
Straight-up / Skip Streak System (3S)
May 24, 2013, 03:58:25 PM
Skip Streak System by Apache:

First I want tell I build this system using Ion Saliu concepts :
Skip, Streak, and Median Value.

Example :

Roulette Number: 6
Hits -> 24 times
Skips -> 51 43 104 1 2 29 37 77 79 15 130 15 12 7 11 131 11 129 8 16 20 14 21 12

* Sorted Skips: 1 2 7 8 11 11 12 12 14 15 15 16 20 21 29 37 43 51 77 79 104 129 130 131

* Median Skip: 16

So number 6 hit 24 times.
The first row - called Skips - show ( to the right to left) the skips of number 6. Number 6 show. After 12 spins, show again, after 21 spins show again, after 14 spins number 6 show again etc. The last three skips of number 6 are 104, 43, 51.


The second row - called - Sorted Skips show all the skips for a particular number in ascending order.

The three row called - Median Skip - show the median value of the sorted skips. The median is the middle value of a string of numbers. In this example the median value of skips is 16.
It should not be confused with the average.
So the Median Value is the middle value in a string of values.

Therefore 50% of the values are within the median or less, and 50% are within the median or more. In my example of number 6, the skip median is 16. That mean that 50% of the time number 6 hits within a skip of 16 or less.

Now if in the string of skips of number 6 I mark :

with sign (+) I mark if the skip is greater than median value of skips
with sign (-) I mark if the skip is small than median value of skips
with sign (=) I mark if the skip is equal with median value of skips

I obtain this :

Code:

51  43  104  1  2  29  37  77  79  15  130  15  12  7  11  131  11  129  8  16  20  14  21  12

+   +    +  -  -   +   +   +   +   -    +   -   -  -   -    +   -    -  -   =   -   -   -   -



1. THE STRATEGY :

We bet on the numbers which have a 3 consecutive streak of skips greater than the median value of skips. ( That mean three consecutive + )

In our example number 6 is qualified because the last three skips ( consecutive ) are 104, 43, 51. We have + + + ( three consecutive value of skips, greater than median value of skips. 16

(104 > 16) (43 > 16) (51 > 16)

St0rm0r, is possible to code this system with this options : ?


1.Bet on numbers with encounter 3 consecutive signs +
2.Bet on numbers with encounter 4 consecutive signs + (tight bettors)
3.Bet on numbers until hit.
4.Bet on numbers for 37 spins
5.Bet on numbers for a number of spins equal with the median value of skips. ( In this example we bet number 6 for 16 spins)

Money managament : Flat bet.

Thank you in advance.


P.S. I use this strategy with success in Bookmakers Lottery. (The Irish, German, Spanish,49s lotteryes where I can bet one number )

Cheers Very Happy

Apache
#107
Gambling Philosophy / My thread of common sense
May 12, 2013, 09:19:31 PM
There are many things I have collected over the years. Reading, testing, watching. I want to locate in this thread many of these things. Every time I make a trip to the casino in my town or out I always see people at the tables making the same mistakes. Leaving aside common sense.

My first observation with common sense is that if you do not have at least one strategy that is promising you should not play.

Personally I see no rhyme or reason to go to the casino without any plan. To play anything without an obvious reason. I would rather stay at home playing Monopoly And not lose.

If I am going to face an economic activity as it is playing a gambling game first I have to study my abilities according to how my strategies perform within many trials, with a good margin of earned sessions, with a proven record. Then based on a calculated risk develop a way of playing based on the strategy or multiple strategies that can allow me to at least say I gave a battle.

No plan, no game. That is my first point of common sense.
#109
Off-topic / Automated Roulette gallery
April 25, 2013, 11:32:21 PM
I like the automated roulettes lately and thought about creating a gallery of pictures of them. Maybe some of you recognize the model. If you like please comment.

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#110
The big question among players. The more people there are on the automated machine at a timet hey are more likely to take money from one and give to another.

I have a friend who has a policy of never play if the machine is alone. His theory is that with more players the machine becomes more random and he has more ability in his game to take money.

This is pure drivel right?
#111
Here are several people who say they have a system that works. For example Superman, Albalaha, Gizmotron, Johnlegend and sorry if I forget anyone.

The question is: if any of them publish the winning system do you think the methods discussion would end?

Why should it not be?. Why argue about systems that do not work after there is one that works published? We will have to wait for some kind soul let the system publicly for all to see.

It would be interesting to see if after a forum member publishes a system that works people will continue discussing Martingale rehashed.

What is your opinion?
#112
There are certain roulette systems in public to the surprise of me.

Please note the results will likely vary over time for the same search. I do not make any guarantees about what the result is going to look. But to date the post is made to search the surprises were active in google.com.
#113
To find Nassim Taleb's book you can search google for the ebook using the following:

Google search: dixie derivatives Taleb FooledByRandomness pdf

Google search: emilkirkegaard Fooled-by-Randomness-Role-of-Chance-in-Markets-and-Life-PROPER.pdf

Copy paste exactly.

All work today.
#114
Hello friends.

To find the ebook The Black Swan by Nassim Nicholas Taleb use:

Google search: gendocs docs 5 4303 conv_1 BenoƮt Mandelbrot file1.pdf

Copy paste exactly.

Working today.
#115
Google search. Exactly so:

Quoteintitle:Casino Buster - Neubauer filetype:pdf
#116
The forum needs for a mission statement not to go there aimlessly. Often the purpose of a site can be deduced implicitly or explicitly but at the moment it seems to go very adrift to me.

Many of us have already passed the stage of discussing any system without merit. What now?

I would like to know if there is a mission statement for the forum. Do we have a set course for the community so it can be beneficial to all?

I am not planning to go it's just a question I ask. I hope there is a set position. If there is it would be good to hear.

Please receive many good wishes for longevity.
#117
Straight-up / 5 Spin Roulette System
April 18, 2013, 05:08:55 PM
The problem with a number of Roulette Systems is that they are aggressive progressions and often use wagers that are seldom hit. What this means for the users of these systems is that they can end up in trouble very quickly. There are two outcomes when using a Progression system, the first is that your bankroll will be depleted in a few spins. The whole point of using a Roulette System is to at least maximize the amount of time you spend at the table and earn comps ideally a system should make you money. The second problem is that you can quickly hit the table maximum meaning that you cannot recover your losses on a single spin which is what most Progression systems promise.

This is where the 5 Spin Progression is different from other Progression Systems. With the 5 spins Progression you will be playing 5 numbers. Increase your wagers on those five numbers by one unit after 5 spins without a win and lastly decrease all your wagers by one unit after any win. The session comes to a natural end when you only have one unit wagers remaining on the table and you win, thus removing one unit from each wager leaving no wagers on the table.

To work this system properly we will need to place our wagers on five numbers that are sleepers. In case you are un familiar with the term 'sleepers' a sleeper is a number that has not been hit in a number of spins. Since we want 5 sleepers this system will require a number of pre-spins and record leaping of hit numbers before we begin. In online roulette you will need to place a wager to get the numbers so betting on a even money wager is the best bet.

Once you have your five sleepers place a single unit on each number and wait for the spin. Remember that you do not add a unit to each number until you have lost 5 spins in a row. If you don't follow this part you will quickly reach the table maximum. When you win will remove one unit from each number and watch the spin You will follow this pattern of adding a single unit for every 5 losses and removing one unit every win until you have either won enough times that you end up removing all your wagers naturally ending the session or you decide that it's time to end the session.

Now you may think that even with waiting 5 spins before adding a betting unit to your numbers you will still reach the table maximum or deplete your bankroll. It is certainly possible that these situations will happen, no system is perfect, however you are much more likely to win after 5 losing spins than you are to go on losing.

Once you have ended the session by either deciding to end it or you remove your last wager from the table because of winning you will need to find a new set of sleepers. Keeping track of the results while you are playing will prevent you from having to wait until you determine your new sleepers.

Even though this system is simple and easy to understand make sure that you are comfortable with it before you head to the casino to try it out.
#118
General Discussion / something about even chances
April 18, 2013, 03:54:15 PM
Hello friends my question is simple. Is anyone winning the even chances?

With so little pay I guess progressions are the greatest with the returns by spin the smallest. I was greatly surprised by the obsession of many such locations with so little pay.

At the casino I see that almost nobody plays the even chances. They mostly play numbers and inside bets. In manual roulette it is common to see the empty boxes outside in comparison but in the forums I see a constant obsession with the even bets.

Does anyone really win in them?

Thank you.
#119
First let me clarify that I am not questioning the sale of a particular system over another.

My question is completely honest and is derived from natural curiosity. It is aimed at all those who sell systems.

Why sell if it is only a matter of using that system to win? Is there any specific reason for which you see selling systems a better alternative to get the money directly through betting with the system? Besides of the obvious answer that it is not working.

Hopefully people are selling convinced that their product works. this is where the curiosity comes naturally. Why not use the system they are convinced that it works and stop selling?

As much as I analyze it it does not make sense.

Thanks for the replies.
#120
Friends. Again I am just thinking out loud.

How much money is a money machine worth in your opinion?

The answer is obvious. Why not just use such a money maker machine to make all the money expected to be received from buyers?

A winning roulette system is a money machine. The only conclusion from this is that anything sold as a winning system is not working.

The best thing people can do is put aside laziness and get to investigate themselves. Nobody is going to sell the money making machine. If so that person is a big stupid or is the most generous person on the planet. Which is highly unlikely. It is more likely to be only another system seller scammer.

The moral is not to buy systems. Be suspicious of anyone who asks for money to sell you the machine to print money.

Please be smart. Live and learn.
#121
Street / Anti-Sleeper Street Roulette System
April 13, 2013, 08:24:59 PM
The Anti-Sleeper Street System is one that requires a little effort of front for potential big rewards. To start you will need to record the results of 37 or 38 spins, this is best accomplished using a table layout card

Once you have recorded your numbers you will need to identify the numbers that did not show during your recording period. With the non showing numbers identified you will place your wagers on the numbers in the same street as the number(s) that did not so. For example if after 38 spins one of the numbers that did not show was 2, you would place wagers on 1 and 3 as they are on the same street as 2.

Using this system we will be playing the hot numbers only on streets that have sleepers on them but now playing the sleepers. This last point is important to remember when using this system.

Since there is no natural exit to this system you will want to keep track of your bankroll and exit the game when you are hopefully on a positive swing.
#122
Street / 3 Streets Roulette System
April 13, 2013, 08:23:43 PM
The 3 Streets Roulette system is a very easy system to learn and play. The easier a system is to play the greater the chance of you implementing the system properly which is very important. If you cannot use a system properly because it is so complicated it isn't worth using because unless used properly no system is going to work.

You will notice that the numbers on a Roulette table are broken down into 3 sections. In fact you can wager on these sections if you wish. These sections are referred to as 1st 12, 2nd 12, and 3rd 12. The 3 Streets Roulette System will use these sections but not the betting options.

You need only one spin to start this system. The only rule to keep in mind is that you will not have more than one street in action in any given section. This means you will have a maximum of 3 street wagers in action at any one time, 1 street in the 1st 12, 1 in the 2nd 12 and 1 in the 3rd 12.

To start wait for a spin and note which street the resulting number is in and place a bet on that number. At an online casino you will need to make one even numbered wager (I like to place a wager on Red). Let's say the resulting number was 9, you will then place a wager on the 3rd street which is in the 1st 12. Our next spin results in a 33 which is in the 3rd 12. Since we do not have an active street in that section we place a wager on the 11th street. Our third spin results in a double zero (00) so we do nothing and continue with our wagers on the 3rd and 11th streets. Spin four was a zero (0) and like the double zero (00) we change nothing and continue with our wagers. Our next spin is an 18 and since we have no streets active in the 2nd 12 we place a unit on 6th street.


Now we have 3 active street wagers, one in each section. Things will change a little bit with spins from here on out. Our next spin is a 35 which is located in the 3rd 12 on 12th street. Since we have an active street in the 3rd 12 already we cannot place a wager on 12th street. Instead we will place a second unit on 11th street. In this example we happened to get three numbers in different sections very quickly so we haven't seen this part of the system yet. At any point that you have a active street in a section and another number on in that section hits you add one unit to your active wager in that section. So right now we have one unit on 3rd street, one unit on 6th street and 2 units on 11th street. Our next spin is a 31 which is on 11th street so we have a winner.

Once we have a winner you remove from each street the number of units on the winning street. In this example 11th street had 2 units so we would remove 2 units from each street wager. Since our other street wagers are only 1 unit all our wager are removed and we start the system over again with a fresh spin.

If in this example the winning number was on the 3rd street we would remove 1 unit from each active street wager. This mean that 3rd street and 6th street wagers would be removed from the table and the 11th street wager would be reduced by one, from two units to one unit. This would leave only one active street wager of one unit on the 11th street and you would continue the system as normal adding streets or units as required.

The act of reducing the wagers on non winning streets reduces the losses on non-productive streets and maximizes your winnings.

As you can see the 3 Street Roulette System is very easy to use and is quite fun.
#123
General Discussion / What is a good gaming system?
April 13, 2013, 08:19:24 PM
Friends. Can you really assert there are better and worse systems to tackle the game?

Recently I read the article about system in wizard of odds. You can find it here http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/betting-systems/

This made ​​me wonder how some people make claims of better systems. I myself have fallen into them.

The only possibility that comes to mind is what a player wins the other loses. But it would be like to play at random too. You can be the lucky one for the day or not but nonetheless luck can not be a system.

In my last visits to the casino I won something but I have started to ask for sure if that is just luck and my system has nothing to do with it.

Your opinions are greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
#125
The new town scammer is called Rouler.

http://www.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20734

The steps are too obvious. It amazes me that is not banned already.

Post how good your system is then ask for more information by private messages.

Please use the marshall bing bell anti-scammer system: Do not separate yourself from your money. Much less with these characters that make market through private messages so they stay lengthens by not publishing their offer in public. Only until one of those scammed talk something is done.

Please do not let these open scams operate here.

Thank you.