Is it for developers to post their rates or is for users to publish how much are they willing to pay for a program as well as the features wanted?

Is it for multiple users to collaborate with a payment schedule for a paid program?

What is the purpose?

Thank you.

THIS is something similar to the system known
as the ' Montant Beige.'

It requires a good large capital, the patience
of Job, and plenty of time at your disposal. If
you have got all three, and wish to make win-
ning a practical certainty, there are not many
better methods than this, and I believe there
are a few persevering mortals who regularly win
their 5 or 6 units a day at it.

It does not really matter very much what you
elect to play it on it is the ' massage ' or
Progression that is the important thing. It can
be played on Red or Black, on the Sequences
or Intermittences, or if you like on the ' Avant
Derniere' which means that you always play
on the colour that came out last but one it is
probably as good as anything else, and the same
may be said of the Wrangler's method.

You play to win your units one by one, each
as a separate and distinct operation, and when-
ever you win one you stow it away in another
pocket as a definite gain.

If you commence losing, you continue to
play flat or level stakes of i unit, until either
you are one to the good, or the Bank has won
5 from you. As soon as this has happened you
begin playing flat stakes of 2 units, crossing out
wins as they occur, and keeping a record of the
losses. Say you start with 3 losses, 2 wins, and
then 4 losses, your score would look like
this --

1 1 1 1 1 1 1

You are now 5 units to the bad, so you
write down --

1 1 1 1 1

and start playing flat stakes of 2 units. Suppose
the game goes as follows --

Win
Lose
Win
Win
Lose

Your score-sheet will appear thus --

1 1 1  1  1  2 2

You continue staking 2, and the
table wins.

Lose
Lose
Win
Lose
Lose
Lose

Starting afresh with the figures re-
maining, viz. i, 2, your score-sheet will
then read like this --

1 2 2 2 2 2 2

You have now lost 5 twos on balance, so you
commence staking 3, and every time you win
you will cross out 2 twos and write down a 1.

N.B. Be sure you do this. If you cross
out a 2 and a i it will alter the whole system,
and make it more dangerous for the player.

The table comes round in your favour, and
gives you --

Win
Win
Win

Starting with your score as follows --

1 2 2 2 2 2

the result after the above coups of 3 have
been played will be as follows --

1 2 2 2 2 2 1 1

Now as all the twos have disappeared, you
drop from a stake of 3 to 2 again, starting as
follows --

1 1

Supposing you get one loss and two wins,
your score will appear --

1 2 2

and you are quits once more you must then
recommence with a stake of 1 unit.

The Bank has won 15 ' coups ' to your 11 ,
and yet you have come out without loss.

This is the merit of the slow and safe Pro-
gression.

How much capital it would be necessary to
have, to make this method nearly infallible, I
am unable to say, but the player who had
2000 units would be in a very strong position.
Remember that all safe systems are necessarily
slow.

Of course, if the table had continued un-
favourable, you would have commenced staking
4 as soon as five threes appeared on your score-
sheet, and you would have lowered your stake
to 3 again as soon as all the threes had been
wiped out.

THIS system consists in playing that the Bank
will not beat you three ' coups ' in succession.
If it does, you lose one capital or ' sautez,' and
must recommence with a unit of 1 again.

The Progression employed is 1, 2, 4, to
commence with. If you lose your 1 + 2 + 4
= 7 pieces, you then attack with a capital of 11
pieces, and play 1, 3, 7 until you have got back
the 7 just lost, in which case you return to your
original method of 1, 2, 4.

Supposing you lose your second capital of 1 1
pieces, you would then double your unit and
play 2, 4, 8, and if this also goes down before
all losses are recovered, you would play 2, 6,
14, and if still unsuccessful 3, 6, 12, to be
followed by 3, 9, 21.

Provided you have lots of patience and plenty
of capital behind you, there are many worse
systems than this.

Author: V.B.

Two ladies of a certain age, who had just
arrived from England, and had evidently not
much experience of the game, were having
their first flutter at Roulette. Said one to the
other : " I see you always play on Red." " Of
course," she replied, sinking her voice almost to
a whisper for fear the croupier should hear ;
" don't you know that you get an extra number
on the Red side ? " " No," said the first, " how
do you make that out ? " " Why," said the
other, "number i is Red, and number 36 is
Red, so of course you get an extra number in
your favour on the Red side ! " " How clever
of you to discover it," said number one, and
down went her stakes on the Red. I suppose
she did not want the croupier to hear of her
great discovery, for fear they might alter the
arrangement of the colours and so defeat her
imaginary advantage on the Red side ! I did
not point out to her, that 10 and n were both
Black, and so were 28 and 29, and as the only
two red numbers following one another were 1 8
and 19, this made up for the first and last
numbers both being Red. It would have been
a pity to have dispelled her illusion, especially
as she seemed to be winning.

Probably you have never noticed that whereas
in the First Dozen there are five numbers Red
and Impair, in the Middle Dozen there are only
three, and in the Last Dozen only two. It is
the same with Black and Pair : in the First
Dozen there are five of them, in the middle
three, and in the last only two. With this
knowledge we can frame an amusing little
system.

If you fancy the Red side of the table you
put one piece on Red, one piece on Impair,
one on the First Dozen, and one on either the
Transversale 19 to 24, or 22 to 27. The result
of this will be that the worst that can happen to
you is a loss of four pieces, and this can only
occur when one of two numbers appears.

On the other hand, if one of the Red numbers
of your Transversale appears, you can win six
pieces, and as there are three of them, you may
reasonably hope to win six pieces once in every
twelve spins, whereas you ought not to lose all
four of your pieces more than once in eighteen
spins.

This system can be played with a capital of
twenty pieces, but I think the player should
move from table to table as soon as he is a
winner of ten pieces at any one of them.

If the player prefers Black and Pair, the
stakes on the First Dozen and Transversale
are the same, and the results will be precisely
similar. There will be three numbers on which
he can win six pieces, and only two on which
he can lose as much as four.

Perhaps I ought to point out that mathemati-
cally speaking this system is not to be recom-
mended, on the principle that the more numbers
you cover, the bigger the advantage you allow
the Bank to have over you. If you stake in
the manner described above, their advantage
will be about eight per cent, whereas if you
were content to stick to the even chances it
would only be about one and one-third per
cent.

In spite of this, however, the system is
amusing, and should bring you to very little
harm, unless you have exceptionally bad luck.

Author: V.B.

Thank a programmer today. Many of them give their time generously to carry out a program and only hope for our thanks and appreciation.

Thanks to: Opis, Gizmotron, Bayes, Ralph, Victor, Stepkevh, Normy2000.

I have tried to create programs in the past. I know how hard it can be for something to be programmed. Sometimes you do not know what that entails a simple box with a few buttons. These generous people please receive my admiration.

Wow, it is true that a roulette bot is illegal? I did not know.

It seems rather that casinos prefer that players keep playing on autopilot. It is expected the players will lose in the final balance. what is the difference if it is a hand or if it is a program that puts the chips.

Can anyone shed light on this? Are there cases of people who have been punished for using the bots on their real money account.

Thank you.

This forum is better than a book in my opinion.

Some messages can match the gaming authors formally published.

Not to mention the kindness of the benefit of programmers and interactive feedback.

Just wanted to say go ahead. Although many do not say yes is appreciated.

Numerology has returned to the forum of Steve.

When will they learn:

31/13 = No gift for children on 31th december or 2013.

21/12 = 21 days Broke on each of the 12 months.

Time keys = car keys. gone.

Square of the sun = You will take a load of sun beggin for money on the public square.

Of the many ways you can play roulette numerology must be one of the worst. It is overcome only by birthdays played rigidly and plays of hunches from whatsoever.

Moral: not numerology unless you want to lose everything. There is a reason why numeris forum is dead. They stopped and nobody stops playing if it earns. We must learn from others.

Long video.

http://archive.org/details/KimoLiMatricesWaitATriggerAfter12SpinsThenWaitAnother6Spins

Is it very difficult to make an automated way to get fresh numbers?

Idea: monitor the sites that publish daily numbers and post them here through a program.

Idea # 2: Distribute programs to forum users that capture numbers from casino screen and publish them automated here when the program is closed.

Thus we will always get fresh updated numbers to test our methods.

Predicting the outcome of roulette
Michael Small
1, 2, a)
and Chi Kong Tse
2
1)
School of Mathematics and Statistics, The University of Western Australia
2)
Department of Electronic and Information Engineering
Hong Kong Polytechnic University, Hong Kong.

(Dated: 16 July 2012)

There have been several popular reports of various groups exploiting the deterministic nature of the game of roulette for prot.

Moreover, through its history the inherent determinism in the game of roulette has attracted the attention of many luminaries of chaos theory.

In this paper we provide a short review of that history and then set out to determine to what extent that determinism can
really be exploited for prot.

To do this, we provide a very simple model for the motion of a roulette wheel and ball and demonstrate that knowledge of initial position, velocity and acceleration
is sufficient to predict the outcome with adequate certainty to achieve a positive expected return.

We describe two physically realisable systems to obtain this knowledge both incognito and in situ.

The rst system relies only on a mechanical count of rotation of the ball and the wheel to measure the relevant parameters.

By applying this techniques to a standard casino-grade European roulette wheel we demonstrate an expected return of at least 18%, well above the 2:7% expected of a
random bet.

With a more sophisticated, albeit more intrusive, system (mounting a digital camera above the wheel) we demonstrate a range of systematic and statistically significant biases which can be exploited to provide an improved guess of the outcome.

Finally, our analysis demonstrates that even a very slight slant in the roulette table leads to a very pronounced bias which could be further
exploited to substantially enhance returns.

PACS numbers: 05.45.Tb, 01`.65.+g, 01.80.+b
Keywords: roulette, mathematical modeling, chaos

http://cktse.eie.polyu.edu.hk/pdf-paper/Chaos-1209.pdf




[Moderator's Edit:  I've spaced this out to avoid a solid block of text, thereby making it easier to read on a screen.]

http://books.google.com/patents/US7946912

The truth is that the idea of ​​paying for system tester programs is not very attractive. There are simply too many systems. I wonder what free system testers are already out there on the internet.

Has anyone collected those links? Then maybe they can be posted here in this thread?

Thank you.

• The aggressive strategy: The player strides confidently up to the table and places
a single bet of $30.00 on the first spin of the wheel. He either wins or loses. If he loses
he smiles bravely and leaves. If he wins he smiles triumphantly, pockets his $60.00,
and leaves. With this strategy his chances of winning are 18/38 or 47.37%.

• The conservative strategy: The player walks hesitantly up to the table and places
a bet of $10.00 on the first spin of the wheel. Whatever happens, he places another
bet of $10.00 on the next spin of the wheel. He continues in this way, betting $10.00
on each spin of the wheel, until he either reaches his goal of $60.00 or he goes broke.
This is an example of a common kind of choice that people often face. For example,
investors must often decide whether to place all their money in a single investment or to
diversify their holdings, placing smaller amounts in each of several investments.


Do you think the player is more likely to win using the aggressive strategy,
using the conservative strategy, or that it makes no difference which strategy is used?

See PDF in attachment.

Description
Allows you to play in automated way, using pre-written game systems, the game of roulette of some on-line casinos.

Features:
* Automatically play roulette with prewritten game systems.
* Possibility of selection of famous online casino on wich play.
* Several game systems for roulette.
* General statistical informations.
* Game simulation mode.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/rouletteautop/

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The seat.

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Playtech has full screen mode where bets are placed on the gaming table used by the dealer.

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Very good.

This system is quite simple but is giving me results:

Run 18 spins.

Note the number of occurrences of each split.

For the next batch of 18 spins you are going to bet that you will have one more appearance on each.

To all the splits that have one occurrence, you bet that the new set will have 2 on them.

To all the splits that have 2 appearances, you bet that they will have 3.

To all the splits that have 3 appearances, you bet that they will have 4.

And so gradually. So that when they are +1 from previous run it is a win.

The splits that do not come out in the first 18 sets are ignored for the latter.

My favorite method of progression for this method is just one piece up for the next run if this is run finishes in the negative.

When you get any profit by the current hit the betting closes immediately and it is time to start again.

It is very nice when a hit with two splits at the same time. They happen with some frequency.

The bets remain on the carpet up to spin number 18 expressly as final bound for the run.

Hopefully a software can soon be available to us for testing. Given the large number of splits locations to track it is cumbersome to carry manual counting to test let alone play live with paper and pencil with sixty splits.

Make a set of rules that prohibit posts by hinting.

The site should be for people who want to test their betting method.

Therefore we all help with our methods.

It is unfair for people who publish their full method of playing to open the door for welcoming the hinters whose mission is to waste the time of people and rejoice to put others to work with their crumbs. It makes them feel great perhaps but hinters are small. Very small.

It is also an insult to posting members because to cap it the people that only produce hints express that those who publish methods of their own effort are fools.

Please ban hinting threads along with the hinters. We have an opportunity to avoid past mistakes. Keep this forum for people who want to publish, to test their methods, and seriously study based on something you can try rather than vague hints.

Thank you.

Mr. Victor
Could you please relaunch the tracker for the last X numbers.
The old web is unreachable. There is no way to download it now.
Many thanks.