I was not going to post more until I had my program but come on, pay today for what is going to be free next week should be the worst marketing idea of the century. a true donation scheme. clearly the forum closes two days from now on the 16th as there is no domain pay. it is public internet record who is paying and who will be evicted:

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the counter for smart people who do not pay on Friday for what is going to be free on Sunday is where it should be: absolute zero . do not count on me to support such a terrible way. I gave the idea of making a package for a normal sale but it falls on deaf ears. nobody is going to donate their hard earned money to keep a broke site. birthday of the forum = closed day. Pathetic

this forum is broke friends . they do not have to renew the 2017-2018 domain name fee. time to leave this forum behind.

web pages to prepare for the inevitable:

http://forum.roulette30.com
https://rouletteforum.cc
http://www.rouletteforum.com/
https://www.gamblingforums.com/forums/roulette-forum.9/

it was a good trip but we all  saw it coming. no money = no gas to continue.

Steve's forums sells = success
Kav's forum parners with casinos = success.
Betselection = church offerings basket = broke.



nonsense

Bye.

delectus said:

Quote from: delectus on September 14, 2017, 07:47:21 AM
Please note the random numbers at random.org and say an actual roulette wheel produce completely
different results. I have worked on random numbers for a great many years and I am currently looking
at the results for sets, when using random.org random numbers. It is interesting to discover the differences
and try to discover why there should be such a difference.

also

Quote from: delectus on September 16, 2017, 01:15:27 PM
Anyone who has bet on sleepers ( 3 x 37 = 111 spins is "officially" a sleeper), will be often aware
that irritatingly, the ball will land often either side of a sleeping number, say 1 & 16 the sleeper being 33.

A possible interesting research may be to examine random.org sleepers, this may point to some
differences, such as the above and when a sleeper appears.

there are random.org and automated roulette numbers easily accessible on the internet.  could you do a step by step comparison on the differences found between two of these samples complete with statistics? this topic is interesting to me because I do not see anything different but I remain open to being proved otherwise. thank you.

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on October 09, 2017, 11:19:12 PM
Well placed thought but...
Why choosing to bet sixlines?

any analysis on any group of 6 numbers is the same. the layout is there for convenience0. nothing else

Quote from: VLS on October 09, 2017, 10:13:48 PM
- Coldest is always the furthest back.
- Hottest is considered looking back using 6-spin batches, excluding zeroes, picking the one with the most hits.
- Warm / Average would be the DS appearing exactly 1 time for the most consecutive cycles.

a valid way of approaching the system in the absence of clarification by the author.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on October 02, 2017, 11:28:13 AMSince we won't get more positive than negative there's no long term advantage, you could try it flat and sooner or later you would find out that gradually but steadily will be bogged down.

That's how I consider it, take it or leave it.

the possible advantage is to use a progression that covers the variance. please see  bold quote: "The variance is reduced compared to betting only on red". it would be the winning hit of the century.

This method looks good to conduct long term study . progression analysis would be interesting.

QuoteAuthor   Topic: A method with teeth
   kj smooth   Posted: 04-Sep-10 20:14   
   
I know some will play this and I'll never hear a word from them, I accept that. Some might even rip the method AND still play it. lol This is flat betting. I use units of $15, $10 and $5 but use whatever fits your budget the best. I try and separate fact from opinion. A fact is, in 'X' number of spins, we will get a complete street hit, all 3 numbers. I do have to thank Bayes ahead of time, he helped me a bit.

Ok, on to the method >> I keep track of the last *12* numbers hit. When the next number hits, cross off the latest number, we will always be looking at the LAST 12. Any street with TWO of the numbers hit, is what we are looking for. Example: the 14 and 15 are hit within the 12 recorded. We flat bet the 13 UNTIL either a win OR until either the 14 or 15 is NOT within the 12 recorded anymore. I have done lots of testing recording the last 11, 10, 13 and 14 spins, I have found that *12* works the best. Anytime all 3 (a win) are within the 12, no more betting on that number UNTIL it drops back to two within the street.

EXAMPLE: We were betting on the 13, it hits and we have a win. Lets say a couple spins later, the 14 drops from the last 12 recorded. We NOW have the 13 and 15 hit so we bet on the 14 until either a win OR until either the 13 or 15 is NOT within 12 recorded anymore. Don't make this tougher than it is. Sometimes I over explain stuff. lol There are some spins where NO betting will take place. Now, what about multiple bets going on? This is what I do in terms of betting. 1-2 bets: I bet $15 per number, 3 bets: I bet $10 per number, 4+ bets: I bet $5 per number. It is very rare to have 4+ within 12 but you MUST have a RULE for every situation.

My BR is 3K but use what you can afford. No progression here, that should make a few happy. Its VERY common for a street to hit within a short (12) period of time. What I like about this most, we are NOT betting on semi-cold streets. My win goal is 1K, then go home. Any questions, just ask. Thanks for reading. Ken

http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=8755&forum=Roulette_Message_Board

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AMRemember one very important thing regarding progressions. They seek specific spots or ratio or order to win. None of them can handle all variety that can come. If you keep getting wins in your sweet spots, you win the game otherwise the same havenly progression will kill your money.

This fact is quite important to be understood:  money management is not a silver bullet to beat everything.

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AM
Playing EC bets on European roulette or "Player" in baccarat are my only choice of betselection. Although inside betting still gives me goosebumps and manageble, any EC bet with least house edge is the way to go.

Interesting decision to return to EC bets.  When going back to the former bets it means there was learned wisdom . which is worth more because you no longer have the bug to try other betting paths but it is by conviction based on experience now. nothing can replace this so congratulations.

are you talking about using visual ballistics to decide which number sector is not going to come out?  This possibility crossed my mind as the only visual ballistics for someone not seasoned like me.  by discarding a small area of two numbers you could have one viable system based on physics.  interesting possibility.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on July 12, 2017, 03:47:11 PM
However, if you find it attractive idea then try winning by predicting which very few numbers are not going to show any time soon rather than the opposite.

alrelax, you look like a smart person . the answer is quite simple: if it is sold, it does not work.  if it works, it is not sold. Nobody certifies the goose that laid the golden eggs to sell it for money to buy but the gold is used directly to acquire what you want.

There is no single published system that works because every functioning system is not published.  These sellers have always existed, they have only changed products:

before:



now:

Quote from: alrelax on July 12, 2017, 01:24:55 PM
With all the millionaire expert authors that would instantly become billionaire authors, why only the following:

"Kyle T. from NYC says.........."

"George P. from Boondocks, Kansas says.............."

"Lori Y. from Detroit, Mich says........................"

"Johnny L. from S.F., CA says......................"

Etc., etc., etc.  If I was an author of a 'real' system that actually worked and was honestly what I discovered and wrote about, I would have an auditing company do a real audit and study with actual certification that can be verified, etc.  The same as they do for technical and other books and publications were studies and references and results are used as supporting documentation for the product you are selling, the system--the book.

Link to google:

https://www.google.com/search?q=inurl:gamblersbookcase.com+filetype:pdf

interesting. well I guess in the end we are the group that has supported over time.  this is also not the first time I pledge. I have taken a capture image of your quoted post to see if there is any edit later. By the way I was able to read the initial post in its entirety, and the poll in question.

Well, in the end casino is an acquired vice for those who decide to stay. all there is to have is a good time. we are stranded with the group I guess.

As for leaving one does not go " tap dancing to the door " but just grab the suitcases and leaves. when you can not stand any more then not even the luggage. whoever wants to go away from one place goes out even naked if necessary. so I never take polls asking to leave  in forums seriously .  I just see them as this: "Should I hang myself?? Options: () maybe yes / () maybe not / () maybe later / () kindly give reasons not to do it please" ...

With respect to the poll:

"Should Alrelax Stay on the Board or Leave?

Yes, by all means stay and continue
No, please do not use for you "

this far I have found it a valid poll. I lost it to the third option of clinical brew-ha-ha, not you, Chimp stuff.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:betselection.cc/alrelax%27s-blog/time-to-vote!!!-please-the-board-needs-your-vote!/

To each his own I suppose. now I would better play my new system for a while: quads that make +1 with respect to the previous cycle. I may publish it to vary the tone of the forum

Quote from: greenguy on June 23, 2017, 04:59:40 AM
Yes, in the past I too have pledged money to Victor's forums. I even set up a continuous monthly payment through paypal for an extended period and only stopped it when he sold the forum to Steve. In total it would be much more than you too combined, although I never ASKED for thanks or recognition.
The quote above is not what I posted. One of Victor's mods, or he himself changed my post to this, which in itself is unacceptable.

The reason I started this thread is because alrelax created a poll (for whatever reason) to see if he was popular enough to stay.
I voted in the negative which is my right to do so, I also gave my reason. He then removed my posted reason and replaced my words with something entirely different. That is an abuse of moderator privileges, which should not be tolerated. He's been doing this sh*t for years, and it's the main reason why I don't like him. Well that and to some extent his racist admissions.

So you see I can't post any response anywhere in a thread controlled by alrelax because he will either delete it or change it to suit his own ends. And then  he complains about me starting threads about him. but it is the only recourse available as he is a tyrant within his own threads.

He then removed the votes, followed shortly by the whole poll thread. It's ridiculous, and very telling of his true character.

Quote from: greenguy on June 23, 2017, 05:01:15 AM
Who cares, mate?

I care because I felt like a real i.diot to think that I had committed to the date that alrelax himself said and there is the possibility that he did not give his pledge by the first week of April so after I would have taken the hassle to do it by that date and he wouldn't have it  seemed disgusting especially after saying what I said in the post. I had not thought of it until now.

Quote from: greenguy on June 23, 2017, 05:01:15 AMThat goes for you too, wannawin.

I have had a love-hate relationship with this community. I have been separated by events that I did not want to support and then I returned after things calmed down, also after I calmed down myself to the point that I do not care anymore about the fact that previously bothered me. . maybe the time has come time for this formula to be applied by many other forum members..

Quote from: alrelax on June 23, 2017, 04:41:49 AM
I have donated in the past prior to this and I sent my pledge. OK?

Thank you for confirming this. if we all compromised this is how it should be.  A while ago I felt foolish to think that I would follow you if you had not given your pledge by that first week of April because I took the trouble to do it by that date under your own recommendation.  I started to think about it after my greenguy post and the more I thought about the possibility the more I disliked it. thanks for making it clear.

Another question and I want an honest answer. Are you a global moderator of the forum? there is no indication that it is so because it says: "alrelax

     Hero Member "

if so then does it mean that there are other hero members who have the possibility to edit the posts of all the other members? under the previous moderation model global moderators could only delete posts but never mess with the content of the messages of others. in my opinion it is as it should be: simply hide from public view and give a chance to defend yourself.  many posts were restored after a second chance of rebuttal.  To edit post content is not correct in my opinion: all the post being published in full or nothing.

I wrote this today: http://betselection.cc/general-discussion/alrelax-and-his-petty-poll/msg57211/#msg57211

and I feel entitled to speak because I was one of several members who committed to support and I supported with my money by the first week of April as alrelax himself said: http://betselection.cc/general-discussion/pledges-to-betselection-cc/

after defending alrelax from greenguy today I started to think that I can not assure that he gave it. the pledge carries a part of honor so I am 100% sure that I gave my part but although it would be despicable not to have fulfilled the pledge it is within the possible.

Please confirm to the forum that alrelax fulfilled his pledge to be able to speak properly and to defend him again knowing that I will not end up like a fool putting my hands in the fire for him without having all the facts.

because we made the compromise in public so we put our honor in the same line the confirmation must be public too. any of the other members who committed themselves can also confirm if you want.  there should be no problem because we made a very public commitment and not a private business or coverup.

In any case for speaking clearly if he did not honor his part after three months it is simply that he does not want to help the forum which would be disgusting . or else if he does not have funds to afford $ 50 USD after these several months then all claims of moving money at the casinos and so on crash. which also reminds me that I suspect tabone smells suspicious as a big bettor author. well let's hope that alrelax does not disappoint. thanks.

Quote from: warrior on June 21, 2017, 08:26:43 PM
Well here s one beat the outside bets and the inside will be easy. 

Please comment more about it.  it would be really refreshing to focus more on the game and less on the people . please give the example: what do you have in mind when saying this? perhaps intersections using the outer bets to point to the internal single numbers?  example: intersection of column 3, dozen 2 = 15 18 21 24 ? thank you.

Quote from: greenguy on June 22, 2017, 11:04:55 AM
He should be banned plain and simple. That is my opinion.

In my opinion: Alrelax is a productive member of the community . he publishes frequently and is a very consistent member.  he gives signs of being an active player which is more than most posters in the forums.

if we put aside all the bickering and focus on the game alrelax publishes many common sense things about the game itself.

He even gave $ 50 USD the first week of April before sponsors which shows that he is committed to the forum. I myself gave only $ 10 USD and the rest of members gave $ 0 USD thus most gave nothing.  So alrelax puts his wallet where his mouth is which is a good indication if we want to measure the quality of his personal commitment here.