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[BEAT-THE-WHEEL]

Gentlemen,
We bet when a TRIGGER OF,
"three unique dozen" in 3spins,
(TUD) PERMUTATION HIT.
123,
321,
213,so on...three different dozen in 3spins.

We bet after a TUD , hit, another permutation, of TUD, won't hit.

eg.
123,...trigger.
123=another TUD, we lose,


123,
132...lose.

123
231...lose.

123,
213...lose...and so on, you get the idea.
So , when and how we win?

eg.
213...TUD, as trigger.
112...we win, as the 1, repeat..

213, trigger.
122, ...we win, as the 2, repeat.


213...
111...we win, as the 1 ,repeat..

Thus, a TUD, followed,
by another TUD ,(of any permutation),
cause losing bet.

then, what the chances of win/lose ratio.
if we bet as,
SINGLE/SERIES (OF 2, AND MORE)?
answer...within math expectation,
with very slim, of the horrible variance. to happen.

REMEMBER!
TUD, TUD,TUD ,...
will go on to 5in row!
thus we bet as single versus series, only,
as the expectation, is STABLE.
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interestingly,
we could also bet, after a TUD, IN 4SPINS.

SAY,1231 DOZEN! hit in 4spins,
what the chances, that TUD, WILL HIT IN NEXT 4SPINS?
THINK HARD!

[ozon]

And the time on the most important question what MM recommend.
For doubledozen we have Regression, for EC I got something diffrent.
But I have no progression for dozens, maybe some positive progressions  by Kattila
But I never fully  understood them .
If we  have  stable bet  selection , we need very good  progression to  make  money.

[BEAT-THE-WHEEL]

Hi Ozon,
Stable bet,
only mean, that possibility, of  HORRIBLE VARIANCE, to hit, is SLIM.
Thus, we have the luxury, or previlege,
to wait for a " losing attack",
to happened first,
that one losing attack avoided,
thus 'enhance',
the chances of winning.

it is not
solely DD attack,
as..
132 trigger...
then fourth spin,

1,........ hit, thus bet 1 will repeat,(bet one dozen only)
1,2...lose, thus we bet 1 and 2...(bet double dozen)
123..lose all.

[Gizmotron]

ONCE EVERY 1,900 spins you will see 123 123

If you are in a global effect of singles don't bet this way that I will show you.


If you see 123, then for the next bet, bet 1 / 1 on 2 and 3 respectively.


If 1 happens, you lose. So then bet 4 / 4 on 1 and 3 respectively.


If 2 happens, you lose again. So then bet 13 / 13 on 1 and 2 respectively.


In this method you will win one unit for each step until you win. If it wins on step one then you win one unit. If it wins on step 2 you win two units. If it wins on step three you win three units. If you lose all three steps you lose 36 units. The method has an odds of reoccurrance of 1 in a hundred spins, if that stat is true. So you can win 97 units to every 36 lost if this is all true. The problem is that you have to wait for 123 before trying it. And that is to win yourself 3 units. It is obvious that if you have a global effect of doubles and triples that betting on a pattern of singles to win is not a good idea at the time. So you need sets of threes, TUD's, for each dominating situation of awareness. If you see a swarm of doubles than any triple will win, like 333 or 111 for an example. If you see a swarm of singles than 222 would not be so good because 131 or 313 could happen. The trick to this is in identifying how the dozens are currently acting. I'd bet that the odds of a repeating TUD are even larger than 1 in 100 when situational awareness is applied.


It's all good thinking, this search for the very rare event.


I think I will write a sim to test this.

[Kattila]

***
But I have no progression for dozens, maybe some positive progressions  by Kattila
But I never fully  understood them . ***

Tell me which one (s) you didn t understood and i will try to help.

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About the  123123......on dozens ....how about this ,
if we have 123123123 in row from 9 streets in row , or
9 splits in row ...what to do/bet  next.....
Be creative and use splits and streets (or just numbers)
to make your own *dozens* in the order/ pattern you wish....

[RouletteGhost]

***
But I have no progression for dozens, maybe some positive progressions  by Kattila
But I never fully  understood them . ***

Tell me which one (s) you didn t understood and i will try to help.

_______________________________________




About the  123123......on dozens ....how about this ,
if we have 123123123 in row from 9 streets in row , or
9 splits in row ...what to do/bet  next.....
Be creative and use splits and streets (or just numbers)
to make your own *dozens* in the order/ pattern you wish....

I've tried that

take streets

divide into 12 number sections

abc

bet against the pattern

[Mr J]

bet against the pattern

It won't work long term. Sorry rookie.

Ken

[Gizmotron]

Take it from me. Ken knows this topic more than any gambler in the world.


P.S. that was not meant to be sarcasm. I'm not kidding anyone.

[RouletteGhost]

I don't care what ken says or thinks.

So leave me out of it.

[Nathan Detroit5]

Mr J  aka  Ken learned  his skill in the trenches of a B & M casino .That` s good enough for me. I respect him for that.

[alrelax]

. Math will not tell you when a favorable coincidence will take place. So math must be left behind for coincidence. The key to winning is in exploiting the coincidences that occur everyday in casinos.

Exactly, 1,000% something that many and I mean the highest majority will never understand or subscribe to.  See it all the time, and although--different aspects occur all the time, they leave all those calculating whatever it was they were in bewilderment!  Spot on!