Please
Start a thread here
It is a better atmosphere and you can delete comments
No caleb here
I love your thread
They assume it's a system against patterns like rbr which is wrong. Proving they haven't read or understood it
Post it here and lets all discuss
I agree and thanks RG for suggesting this.
The Caleb fellow/ Real/ Xander is a well known concrete linear fixed view troll who caused massive distress on roulette forum a few years ago, and also here until he was booted off by responsible and ethical Moderators.
The moderators HERE did what was right
Let's hope this thread gets full of Pryanka's wisdom and hints!
Thanks RG
What is the idea Priyanka is talking of? Links or any brief will do. Priyanka is qualified in maths and I had an opportunity to talk to her in length in a chat. She had good insights but if they can translate to getting wins in the long run is yet to be seen.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 08, 2016, 02:17:51 AM
It is a better atmosphere and you can delete comments
No caleb here
I don't understand why that bothers you so much? We all know behavior and thinking process of that guy. Just don't pay attention to him and don't be hooked on anything he says.
IF you can't do that, it is really simple to block any user and you won't see any of his posts when you are logged in.
Cheers
Quote from: Drazen on May 08, 2016, 10:58:18 AM
IF you can't do that, it is really simple to block any user and you won't see any of his posts when you are logged in.
Cheers
Good point
Quote from: XXVV on May 08, 2016, 03:15:13 AM
I agree and thanks RG for suggesting this.
The Caleb fellow/ Real/ Xander is a well known concrete linear fixed view troll who caused massive distress on roulette forum a few years ago, and also here until he was booted off by responsible and ethical Moderators.
it's a sad thing watching what he is doing there
so disruptive for no reason at all....
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 08, 2016, 02:17:51 AM
Please
Start a thread here
It is a better atmosphere and you can delete comments
Better yet . Priyanka can request a section. It is very easy to get a personal section around here. In any case Priyanka can always use my wannawin library space where I am in charge or the section of any of you where I am sure the discussion will run smoothly.
There is a reason why this forum has no trolls . We are all vigilant C:-)
Quote from: wannawin on May 08, 2016, 10:01:02 PMBetter yet . Priyanka can request a section.
would be awesome if she did that
^-^
Yes note that thanks to the personal initiatives of this Forum, the very clever roulette researcher and player Thomas, The Magician, was invited to shift here from Roulette30 where several members including Real had been attempting to be disruptive and negative toward him. It is one thing to block such material but when there is an undercurrent of negative energy why remain - it is a disruptive drain and loss of power. We all need to plant seeds in fertile ground.
Quote from: XXVV on May 09, 2016, 02:34:10 AM
Yes note that thanks to the personal initiatives of this Forum, the very clever roulette researcher and player Thomas, The Magician, was invited to shift here from Roulette30 where several members including Real had been attempting to be disruptive and negative toward him. It is one thing to block such material but when there is an undercurrent of negative energy why remain - it is a disruptive drain and loss of power. We all need to plant seeds in fertile ground.
Always a sad thing to watch
Keep in mind. Xander. Real. Houston. The general. All same person
Roulettes still makin cats go insane, amazing, hey hey.
Can someone please point out what is so impressive or rather enticing about her posts? Anything worth noting?
just go read them
Hi Sumit . .
Priyanka thread "Random Thoughts" is about another way to play roulette. As I gather there were only 2 ways to play in the past.
1. Random systems, ie, waiting for something to happen, a sleeper to awake, a number to repeat, a pattern to form, etc.
2. Non Random systems, like Physics, where you play a wheel's bias.
Priyanka says there is a third way.
3. A non random system played with Math and Statistics. Instead of waiting for an event, you are playing for a math theorem to fulfill or complete. For example, the Van de Waerden theorem says that in 9 spins an EC will form one of 16 Arithmetic Progressions. So you play each spin to see if it completes an Arithmetic Progression. That is Non random.
That's the basics of it. Pretty interesting insights.
Nick
Thanks nick,
Do you find any merit into that? Have you simulated that?
Priyanka has an username here:
http://betselection.cc/profile/priyanka
Priyanka is welcome to reactivate it (let the past be the past).
A new section is only a PM request away :nod:
Vic
Quote from: soxfan on May 09, 2016, 02:53:07 AM
Roulettes still makin cats go insane, amazing, hey hey.
Lol. I need to switch to the baccarat side
Its saner
nathan --first you have to figure out how she plays!
Quote from: Nickmsi on May 09, 2016, 04:28:09 AM
Hi Sumit . .
Priyanka thread "Random Thoughts" is about another way to play roulette. As I gather there were only 2 ways to play in the past.
1. Random systems, ie, waiting for something to happen, a sleeper to awake, a number to repeat, a pattern to form, etc.
2. Non Random systems, like Physics, where you play a wheel's bias.
Priyanka says there is a third way.
3. A non random system played with Math and Statistics. Instead of waiting for an event, you are playing for a math theorem to fulfill or complete. For example, the Van de Waerden theorem says that in 9 spins an EC will form one of 16 Arithmetic Progressions. So you play each spin to see if it completes an Arithmetic Progression. That is Non random.
That's the basics of it. Pretty interesting insights.
Nick
It is not really good news ....
Whatever the order of spins,
this theorem is true.
So it's always random .
Hi Plolp. . .
Yes, you always get a winner in 9 spins but you don't know if it will be R or B.
There are 2 parts to Non Random systems: Math and Statistics.
VDW is the math part, it is up to us to find the Statistical part.
Cheers
Nick
Quote from: plolp on May 11, 2016, 10:17:45 AM
It is not really good news ....
Whatever the order of spins,
this theorem is true.
So it's always random .
Has it been established that there are limits to the random, hey hey?
Quote from: soxfan on May 11, 2016, 10:20:16 PM
Has it been established that there are limits to the random, hey hey?
For the DZ : we need 4 rounds to see a repeat
It's a fact .
is what one can say that it is a " limits to the random " ?
So that everything is clear (about "vdw")
You can predict red or black ,it will always a AP
even if you do not see it, it is there .
Exemple : B R B R
A A A ( A = alternation )
An other : R B B R R normally you should play red
but ; if you take two ( RB =Opposite)
R B B R R you must play black
O O
Quote from: Nickmsi on May 11, 2016, 02:16:48 PM
Hi Plolp. . .
Yes, you always get a winner in 9 spins but you don't know if it will be R or B.
There are 2 parts to Non Random systems: Math and Statistics.
VDW is the math part, it is up to us to find the Statistical part.
Cheers
Nick
Hi Nick,
thanks all of your effort in order to better understanding and the shared Excel sheets. :thumbsup:
Because 50000 spins never can "calms" me, I've tried some longer run simulations with your VDW No Zero tracker. Unfortunatelly I could not maintain any edge in the longer term. I know, I understand what you said, we need some statistical advantage regarding the mutual bets. Like you said, maybe we can substitute these situations with another VDW APs like dozen cycles, quad cycles, etc. The complete elimination of the mutual bets (without reasonable substitution, because we will miss some important Ws) is not the right direction, I think.
So, the mentioned
martingale type of progression (set by the divisor) resulted what I expected, sooner or later it burned the whole bankroll. No need another 10 million spins test, because I know well what will be the results: (more) frequently bursting. And especially one more back-to-back bursting and we will forget the gambling forever - I guarante. The core problem is again: we do not know absolutely, what would be the next result tomorrow morning within the first 10 minutes. Yes, maybe bursting immediatelly, maybe not...If it can burst today at PM 22.00, then it can burst tomorrow AM 9.00 too. In my experience, this is basic truth in a random world. If we are running quite much long run simulations, we will see some surefire unevitable facts.
Flat betting. The main problem is same. The graphs speak for themselves.
Perhaps I will try this with other progressions like Sumit's hibrid type progressions (like standard hybrid, unbeatable hyb. or unbeatable ultramild hyb.) with or without base bet increments, substituted with load balancing, load shedding. But it needs "heavy duty" Excel coding. More time. If it can survive more random spins without complete bankroll annihilation and/or unmanageable DD's swings...I do not know at the moment, but as I see Priyanka's cleaver approach is worth the exta effort - particularly in relation both of the better progressions and the statistical advantage of some mutual bets.
Regards
QuotePerhaps I will try this with other progressions like Sumit's hibrid type progressions (like standard hybrid, unbeatable hyb. or unbeatable ultramild hyb.) with or without base bet increments, substituted with load balancing, load shedding.
Who are you and how do you know all these ? I shared this with Nick and two more guys only.
Quote from: audiokinesis on May 29, 2016, 10:30:24 AM
Perhaps I will try this with other progressions like Sumit's hibrid type progressions (like standard hybrid, unbeatable hyb. or unbeatable ultramild hyb.)
can you explain?
thanks
Any big winners yet ?