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Title: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: fanroulette on June 12, 2016, 11:35:34 AM
As most of you have been aware, I launched a roulette predictor app on android based on a system I have been working on. I saw that most people have been quiet about it and maybe haven't tried it so far.
I have been continuously tweaking the code and as for my latest test based on 50000 numbers, a starting budget of around 300$ ,a 0.1$ min bet and a min 40$ straight up my algorithm calculated a profit of about 5000$. I have attached the graph. Would love to get your guys opinion on it and if you have a set of numbers that you want me to run through the algorithm that would be great.(running low on sets of numbers). This might very well be the next holy grail.

http://imgur.com/LP5QIiF (http://imgur.com/LP5QIiF)

Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Denzie on June 13, 2016, 09:58:08 AM
I was playing at the wheel on cc forum....and there was some guy talking about it. He give 4 numbers....and we'll. ..he was right :o

You might wanna post there as well.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: fanroulette on June 13, 2016, 10:49:04 AM
Hi Denzie. Thank you for the message. Can you give me a link?
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Bayes on June 13, 2016, 11:23:27 AM
Quote from: fanroulette on June 12, 2016, 11:35:34 AM
As most of you have been aware, I launched a roulette predictor app on android based on a system I have been working on.

Do you have a link to the app? Thanks.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Denzie on June 13, 2016, 12:04:19 PM
http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php

I do warning you....there might be some guys who aren't that friendly.
Ignore them...
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: fanroulette on June 13, 2016, 02:15:38 PM
Quote from: Bayes on June 13, 2016, 11:23:27 AM
Do you have a link to the app? Thanks.


There you go Bayes. I do hope I am allowed to post links.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jmapp.roulettepredictor (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jmapp.roulettepredictor)
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: fanroulette on June 13, 2016, 02:17:58 PM
Quote from: Denzie on June 13, 2016, 12:04:19 PM
http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php

I do warning you....there might be some guys who aren't that friendly.
Ignore them...

I did post there. No one has said anything so far. I am waiting to see people's results and your suggestions or questions.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Denzie on June 13, 2016, 02:47:34 PM
Really?  What's the name of the thread?
I must of missed it. I'll give it a little push  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: fanroulette on June 13, 2016, 02:52:13 PM
Quote from: Denzie on June 13, 2016, 02:47:34 PM
Really?  What's the name of the thread?
I must of missed it. I'll give it a little push  :thumbsup:

Denzie what I mean was that I posted on different roulette forums not on this one in particular. I didn't want to repeat the same post on here so I changed the wording. I thought most members are active on more than one forum. I do apologise for the confusion.

Later edit: This is where I posted. http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17146.0
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Carlitos on June 13, 2016, 04:02:18 PM
.....there seem to be more Apps like these...the thing is do they realy work... and how do they work...??

Iam realy intrested in the response, If you have the App Denzie lett us know how it is performing.....??

Is has an 5.0 score on PlayStore, not so much downloads yet.



Carlitos  8)
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Denzie on June 13, 2016, 06:03:43 PM
Well just tested it...

+239

It seems to be a 5 number bet with a long progression
After each win you need to watch some game advertisement
I'll soon take a deeper look how and why those numbers are selected.

@Fan roulette. ...you tested this 5 years? :o
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: fanroulette on June 13, 2016, 06:10:37 PM
Quote from: Denzie on June 13, 2016, 06:03:43 PM
Well just tested it...

+239

It seems to be a 5 number bet with a long progression
After each win you need to watch some game advertisement
I'll soon take a deeper look how and why those numbers are selected.

@Fan roulette. ...you tested this 5 years? :o

Glad it's showing results Denzie. I didn't say anywhere that I tested it for 5 years although I have been testing it for 2 years now. The tests with big sets of numbers are downloaded from sites that provide spin records aka spielbank etc.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Shadowman on June 13, 2016, 08:13:01 PM
Hi fanroulette

I have downloaded this, I found that it pulled me right to the edge of my bankroll,  and then recovered in my very short test......will look at it further, but the progression is scary.

Could you please tell us the basic idea behind the system, and why it should work please.  I don't necessarily want to know the exact method just the principles behind it.

Thanks

Mike
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: ozon on June 14, 2016, 04:55:08 PM
Unfortunately, today, played only 3 hours, lost the 3000 Units Bankroll , Roulette WillHill slingshot.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: fanroulette on June 14, 2016, 05:33:54 PM
Quote from: ozon on June 14, 2016, 04:55:08 PM
Unfortunately, today, played only 3 hours, lost the 3000 Units Bankroll , Roulette WillHill slingshot.

Hey there ozone. I would recommend playing with a bankroll of at least 300 units and with 0.1 starting bets. This method is not by any chance a "get rich quick method". It is meant to be played on the long term.
Hence me uploading the graphs and as you can probably see, losses of initial minimum starting balance(everytime you lose, you lose the minimum balance recommended) happen quite often and are normal. What matters is that there is significant profit if played on the long term. The graph posted in the first post and here again shows a 5000$ profit over 50000 spins. That is about 3 months of playing the live roulette for about 4-5 hours a day. This is what I was going for with this method: consistency on the long term.

Hope it helped.

(https://betselection.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FqM8Eb9q&hash=09335c093478419cf7fd654174daeb8b5d8f337f)
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: ozon on June 14, 2016, 06:30:54 PM
I know, I saw the graphics, and I know that  lost happen, slingshot in willhill starts with 0.1 euro, but to make a bet in such a short time, it is almost impossible for the higher levels of progression. For the tables with the dealer, you have more time, but larger limits. I think the minimum bankroll for this method is 5 times session bankroll, this is 15k units, because it can happen loss after loss.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: fanroulette on June 14, 2016, 07:24:39 PM
Just use the rebet option and add the extra units needed for the bet.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: fanroulette on June 14, 2016, 08:02:07 PM
Here's another test for 50000 spins.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Denzie on June 15, 2016, 08:14:12 AM
Why is it deleted on the .cc forum?
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: fanroulette on June 15, 2016, 08:53:18 AM
Quote from: Denzie on June 15, 2016, 08:14:12 AM
Why is it deleted on the .cc forum?

You tell me. I have no idea. What did I do wrong? My username has been deleted on the forum. I can't access the account.
No warning. No nothing. I do not remember posting something I shouldn't.

Well I guess they didn't want to have my software compete with the shitty methods they post everyday.
I thought I'd do something for the community but apparently they don't like it when you don't tell them the entire method and everything "behind the scenes".

As far as I care the admins from rouletteforum.cc can suck it.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: ice789 on June 15, 2016, 02:30:21 PM
only 50000 spins

test 10,000,000 spins ok...........
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: fanroulette on June 15, 2016, 02:36:41 PM
Quote from: ice789 on June 15, 2016, 02:30:21 PM
only 50000 spins

test 10,000,000 spins ok...........

2 Mil Spins attached. 106k profit.

Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: ozon on June 15, 2016, 02:52:45 PM
If this progression gives advantage in long run, you tried to play  with deep sleepers, the game is then longer, but maybe the results would be better, when you start session waiting for  there will be 5 numbers unhit and start progression, it all sounds like impossible, but mayby  it can keep in simulations.
But waiting for the trigger on wheels live would be too long, and I do not think this strategy to work against RNG.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Bayes on June 15, 2016, 02:53:51 PM
Quote from: fanroulette on June 15, 2016, 08:53:18 AM
You tell me. I have no idea. What did I do wrong? My username has been deleted on the forum. I can't access the account.
No warning. No nothing. I do not remember posting something I shouldn't.

Well I guess they didn't want to have my software compete with the shitty methods they post everyday.
I thought I'd do something for the community but apparently they don't like it when you don't tell them the entire method and everything "behind the scenes".

As far as I care the admins from rouletteforum.cc can suck it.

Hi fanroulette,

When did you post over at rouletteforum.cc? There's a section specifically for those who sell systems; did you post there? Your post may have been deleted if you posted elsewhere.

BTW, does your system bet on every spin or do you have to wait for the right "conditions"?

Edit: I guess the above post answered my question. So how many actual bets were made in the 2M spins above? Thanks.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Denzie on June 15, 2016, 03:16:16 PM
Deep sleepers? Who said anything about that?
Each time I play I can start betting after 5-10 spins....
so far I'm up +942
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Denzie on June 15, 2016, 03:19:25 PM
Quote from: Bayes on June 15, 2016, 02:53:51 PM
Hi fanroulette,

When did you post over at rouletteforum.cc? There's a section specifically for those who sell systems; did you post there? Your post may have been deleted if you posted elsewhere.


It was posted at "roulette software" and it's 100% free. He just want people to test it.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: ozon on June 15, 2016, 03:26:20 PM
"deep sleepers" , this is a question for the author of the software, or he tried in his simulations another bet selection with this kind of progression.
He do not play deep sleepers.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: from100 on June 15, 2016, 03:28:15 PM
Here it was, this link was working before

http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17146.0
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: fanroulette on June 15, 2016, 03:29:17 PM
Quote from: Bayes on June 15, 2016, 02:53:51 PM
Hi fanroulette,

When did you post over at rouletteforum.cc? There's a section specifically for those who sell systems; did you post there? Your post may have been deleted if you posted elsewhere.

BTW, does your system bet on every spin or do you have to wait for the right "conditions"?

Edit: I guess the above post answered my question. So how many actual bets were made in the 2M spins above? Thanks.


I posted under Roulette Forum .CC » IT & Software » Roulette Software.I wasn't selling anything. It is free for anyone to use the app.

There were exactly 956823 bets placed in the 2M spins. So I guess that would be around one bet every 2 spins, I think.

Usually you don't have to wait more than 10 spins until you have to place a bet.


Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: fanroulette on June 15, 2016, 03:34:21 PM
Quote from: ozon on June 15, 2016, 02:52:45 PM
If this progression gives advantage in long run, you tried to play  with deep sleepers, the game is then longer, but maybe the results would be better, when you start session waiting for  there will be 5 numbers unhit and start progression, it all sounds like impossible, but mayby  it can keep in simulations.
But waiting for the trigger on wheels live would be too long, and I do not think this strategy to work against RNG.

I could certainly try to modify the algorithm to wait longer then triger the bets but I think there will be quite longer sessions but the profit might increase a bit.

Remember, the app gets data from the users that are playing and I crunch that data on the server in order to observe new patterns and possibly improve the accuracy.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: ice789 on June 15, 2016, 03:41:10 PM
live or RNG ?
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: fanroulette on June 15, 2016, 03:43:10 PM
Quote from: ice789 on June 15, 2016, 03:41:10 PM
live or RNG ?

Both on live and RNG, although I have seen better accuracy with live data.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: ice789 on June 16, 2016, 03:48:34 AM
Create rx code
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: hexfex82 on June 16, 2016, 05:51:43 PM
No Server Connection after Enter a Number...
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: RouletteGhost on June 17, 2016, 02:33:02 AM
Impressive graphs and results

Funny things happen on the steve boards sorry it was deleted
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: celescliff on June 17, 2016, 05:01:25 PM
Quote from: hexfex82 on June 16, 2016, 05:51:43 PM
No Server Connection after Enter a Number...

I have the same, worked fine a couple of days ago. Anyone else?
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Denzie on June 17, 2016, 07:07:25 PM
Just tested...works fine
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Gorkin on June 18, 2016, 12:51:06 AM
server error for me too
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: modulo on June 18, 2016, 05:09:44 AM
pas de connection serveur
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: fanroulette on June 22, 2016, 09:18:01 PM
Hi everyone.

                I have got a ton of messages about the app letting me know that the server is down. I know the server is down for most people except a handful from which we are still collecting some data.
             
                I didn't realize I have created such a stir with my system, a lot of people offered to buy the system which I originally had no intention of selling. The algorithm has been sold and for now the app is down indefinitely.

                I will keep this topic updated in the following months. If anyone has any questions post them here or send me a message.

Thank you.


Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: ozon on June 23, 2016, 06:44:14 PM
When I had a free moment played over the last few days. At BV nozero.
As the trigger chose last 5 unhit numbers, I use a tracker for GUT and when remained 5 numbers I start plaing this numbers with Fanroulette progression.
Almost always trigger still show the  after 50 spin, we use deep sleepers.
If this progression is the key to have edge in long run, this bet selection with the use of almost virtual limits may have been just as good as the user's system.
On wheels live is a lot of waiting for a trigger, but surely it is safer to play long progression as RNG.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Elupuki on August 16, 2017, 03:03:11 PM
Anyone tried flatbetting this bet selection? Or the thread is dead by now? I'm curious to see how it would perform  flatbetting long term
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: ozon on August 16, 2017, 04:31:58 PM
As far as I remember, the algorithm showed 5 numbers.
The progression was probably 30 steps, and the stoploss 3000 units.
Progression was the usual Martingale on 5 numbers.
If someone has the ability to program, can check in longrun, simpler and less costly progression.
Bet selection is last double street and stoploss 600 units.
  I would be very surprised to see that the longterm profit, but it may turn out to be wrong.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Elupuki on August 16, 2017, 04:56:07 PM
Quote from: ozon on August 16, 2017, 04:31:58 PM
As far as I remember, the algorithm showed 5 numbers.
The progression was probably 30 steps, and the stoploss 3000 units.
Progression was the usual Martingale on 5 numbers.
If someone has the ability to program, can check in longrun, simpler and less costly progression.
Bet selection is last double street and stoploss 600 units.
  I would be very surprised to see that the longterm profit, but it may turn out to be wrong.

Yeah, the progression is simple Marty for straight ups, every hit you should end up in profit. However, what's good here is the bet selection. Someone should simulate flatbetting any given 5 numbers for 7 times in a row max. Seems interesting. Playing this progression with cents makes no sense, otherwise you need a huge bankroll
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: ozon on August 16, 2017, 07:43:05 PM
Once again I looked at this topic, surprised me the size of the profit, over 15 times session  Bankroll in 50k spins.
I really do not think it's a good bet selection, but progression is key.
But it is hard for me to believe that such a simple thing can generate such a profit.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Elupuki on August 20, 2017, 07:17:48 PM
Quote from: ozon on August 16, 2017, 07:43:05 PM
Once again I looked at this topic, surprised me the size of the profit, over 15 times session  Bankroll in 50k spins.
I really do not think it's a good bet selection, but progression is key.
But it is hard for me to believe that such a simple thing can generate such a profit.

No. How can it be the progression if it's a simple 30+ step marty with stoploss for straight ups? And we all know marty always tanks long term. So it has to be the bet selection.
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: ozon on August 20, 2017, 07:23:41 PM
Of course not that progression is the key.
I do not believe that bet selection has changed anything, I think these charts were a scam to sell the app
Title: Re: Roulette Predictor App. Holy Grail?
Post by: Elupuki on August 20, 2017, 07:27:22 PM
Quote from: ozon on August 20, 2017, 07:23:41 PM
Of course not that progression is the key.
I do not believe that bet selection has changed anything, I think these charts were a scam to sell the app

Maybe, who knows. Although the app is free to use, so I don't see much point of doing it