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Offline Mathemagician

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I've recently completed another short video at William Hill Penny Roulette

In it I get a bet on 24 numbers almost immediately.
and I show how to use the alert on 15 neighbouring numbers.

I finish with the 'Hidden Dozen' after 32 spins.


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Re: Betting on 12, 15 , 18 & 24 numbers at Penny Roulette using RKG
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2018, 05:01:48 pm »
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  • Comical to say the least. Nice presentation though. There is a noticeable proximity effect in the microphone use though. You might want to look that one up.


    Having written AI betting systems for Roulette I'm just wondering if, after 30 spins of 12 cold, sleeping numbers, why a hit in those numbers is somehow due. It takes a full cycle of 37 or 38 spins to generate the real effect of the law of thirds. These sleeping 12 are common in Roulette. Now having a pre selected group of 12 sleep for 30 spins is a very rare event. But this is not pre selection. This happens to be the ground covered by TurboGenius that got me all into trouble a while ago. This expectation stuff that at least one these twelve numbers must wake up very soon is nothing more than more gambler's fallacy. So you use a progression on the 12 numbers. It eats you up by a perfect but rare sequence. That's all it takes to kill your progression. If you flat bet it will kill your bankroll every time. These are the coldest numbers. They have a natural cycle. But most important of all they have wide swings outside the expected average. Roulette Key Gold is another failed example of gambler's fallacy.


    I'm not going to defend my opinion. Anyone that wants to can disagree or even better go and use it. There's no better lesson than being wrong. I just happen to know this subject of rule based bet selection.
    "...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

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    Re: Betting on 12, 15 , 18 & 24 numbers at Penny Roulette using RKG
    « Reply #2 on: February 27, 2018, 11:41:53 pm »
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  • Thanks for your comments especially about the proximity effect.

    I know there's a problem with my mike and I'm working on it with different mikes and programs.
    Any advice on this matter is welcome.

    The hidden 12 sleeping numbers always seem to appear within 50 spins.

    After they have appeared they never sleep for more than about a dozen times. (admittedly they could) So some progression may be necessary.

    However, more often than not it hits  in less than 4 spins.

    I sometimes play level stakes for the first three bets knowing if it hits in the first two it will show a profit on the third
    it will break even. After that I may abandon the bet or double up as I see fit see https://youtu.be/g5EKE4Sgc1o?t=2m56s

    It is exceptional for any dozen to sleep more than 21 times so if I find a dozen that has slept between 30 and 50 times I tend to bet on it.see https://youtu.be/Zo89HyfmLJM?t=3m18s

    I usually stop after its appeared as I'm usually in profit by then anyway.

    Also I'm not relying on this bet alone as Roulette Key Gold is also counting the other 40+ bets on dozens one such bet can be seen at https://youtu.be/9bZeBw1u74w?t=1m39s

    and 70+ on even chances. Not to mention the 15 or so techniques built in to the program.

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    Re: Betting on 12, 15 , 18 & 24 numbers at Penny Roulette using RKG
    « Reply #3 on: February 28, 2018, 01:37:52 am »
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  • "Thanks for your comments especially about the proximity effect.

    I know there's a problem with my mike and I'm working on it with different mikes and programs.
    Any advice on this matter is welcome."


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    1. Use an omni directional Mic. 2. Keep the dynamic mic at least 10 to 12 inches away from your mouth. 3. Use a graphic equalizer to pull down 200 htz while boosting 100 htz. Lower any band pass filter so that 100 htz works.
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    "The hidden 12 sleeping numbers always seem to appear within 50 spins."


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    They do. Can you recover every time with this method?
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    "After they have appeared they never sleep for more than about a dozen times. (admittedly they could) So some progression may be necessary."


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    The coldest numbers appear from 3 to 6 times in 300 spins. You can't know when they become active. But 4 of the 12 will wake up just the same. The question is when.
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    "However, more often than not it hits  in less than 4 spins."


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    No way. That's just a wish. Prove it to yourself.
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    "I sometimes play level stakes for the first three bets knowing if it hits in the first two it will show a profit on the third
    it will break even. After that I may abandon the bet or double up as I see fit see https://youtu.be/g5EKE4Sgc1o?t=2m56s

    It is exceptional for any dozen to sleep more than 21 times so if I find a dozen that has slept between 30 and 50 times I tend to bet on it.see https://youtu.be/Zo89HyfmLJM?t=3m18s"


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    I have seen a pre selected 12 sleep for 33 time in a row. Now those were not coldest numbers mind you. I wonder what a huge cold streak would do to your bankroll?
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    "I usually stop after its appeared as I'm usually in profit by then anyway.

    Also I'm not relying on this bet alone as Roulette Key Gold is also counting the other 40+ bets on dozens one such bet can be seen at https://youtu.be/9bZeBw1u74w?t=1m39s

    and 70+ on even chances. Not to mention the 15 or so techniques built in to the program."


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    Use it. Go for it. You wouldn't by any chance be a Russian Bot would you? One that shills for the casinos that is? Go for it. Shut down the casinos. Notify the academic world. Roulette has been broken.
    "...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

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    Re: Betting on 12, 15 , 18 & 24 numbers at Penny Roulette using RKG
    « Reply #4 on: February 28, 2018, 12:06:24 pm »
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  • I don't claim to have found the answer to playing Roulette, what I have done is update re-write and program the 1905 book The Winning Rules or Roulette Practically considered by Sperienza.
    Like the book my program is designed for live play though I do use the RNG casinos for practice

    I don't make any claims or guarantees and I'm not affiliated with any casino.

    While updating my program I added some features that would not be possible without a computer (such as watching for an imbalance in over 70 even chances and a few features suggested by users.

    I'm aware that a pre selected dozen has slept for 37 spins
    on a live wheel.*
    However, over 30 is very rare and I'm not using pre-selected dozens.  The maths is theoretically the same whether the numbers are preselected or not so I'm happy to find the only 12 numbers that have slept 30 times or more. However, I have my suspicions of RNG wheels as do a lot of players!

    I said ""However, more often than not it hits  in less than 4 spins."

    You commented "No way. That's just a wish. Prove it to yourself."

    So I have over 50 sessions and the dozen where hit within 4 spins 40 times out of 50.

    In my tests over 50 games when only 12 numbers remain unhit (usually between 30 and 50 spins) they remain unhit:

    hit within  1 spin-17 times   
    hit within  2 spin-11 times   
    hit within  3 spin-6 times   
    hit within  4 spin-6 times   
    hit within  5 spin-4 times   
    hit within  6 spin-1 times   
    hit within  6 spin-2 times   
    hit within  7 spin-1 times
    hit within  9 spin-1 times
    hit within  10 spin-2 times

    I appreciate this was a random test over 50 games and 2000 spins and results can vary.

    But Using level stakes with no progression and stopping after 3 bets would return a profit of 45 and a loss of 48. An overall loss of 3, which I can either stand or counter with the occasional progression.






    *Roulette For The Millions - P O'Neil-Dunne -1972 (p178)