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Offline Mathemagician

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Beware Recommended Casinos !!
« on: April 23, 2018, 02:00:16 pm »
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  • I recently had an email from a member of the Roulette30 forum
    with the subject matter "My roulette Tips and Recommedations",
    yes I know it's spelt wrong !

    It contained two links for one for Royal Panda one for Superior Casino.

    Did everyone get this or just me?

    It states "We do recommend them strongly without any reservation" and "According to player's opinion and our own experiences, it is definitely the best for US roulette players"  ( I don't know who the "We" is but as a member of this forum it's not me!

    As both sites appear to be strongly recommended by Roulette30 I decided to have a look at them and test their withdrawal methods.
    I did not accept any bonuses so I didn't believe withdrawals should be a problem.
    So I made a small deposit in each won a little and then attempted to withdraw.

    I had a look at the French Roulette at Royal Panda and unlike other French Roulettes in other casinos they do not offer La Partage where half the stake on even chance bets is returned should zero appear.
    However, They do have an automated La Partage table.
    I tested their withdrawal system and it took less than 24 hours to make a withdrawal so I'm fairly happy with that.

    Superior Casino offer single zero European Roulette and American Roulette.
    There are no 'Free Spins' in the European Roulette table
    To withdraw cash takes 2-7 working days and after submitting a withdrawal.

    I made a deposit via Neteller on the 5th April and it was accepted immediately. I made a small win and attempted to withdraw it.

    I attempted to make a withdrawal on the 6th April. An image appeared on the screen saying "Your Withdrawal was successful!
    I eagerly awaited my winnings and waited and waited....

    (I notice at Superior Casino they say you can get a bonus by referring a friend. Well it's certainly no friend of mine who sent this link!)

    On the 20th April they asked me for government-issued photo identification, a utility bill(not older than 2 months) to verify your address and a copy (both sides, please) of the credit card(s), if any, used to make a deposit.

    Now on the 23rd April it is still processing! Despite me sending copies of government-issued photo identification and a utility bill. I refuse to send copies of my credit card as I paid with Neteller.

    Superior Casino sent me over 30 emails since joining.
    The majority encourage me to accept bonuses, reverse my withdrawal and even invest in Bitcoin. What they haven't done is send me my money!

    Personally, I would never recommend a casino that I haven't successfully withdrawn from. And I am always suspicious of recommendations especially where they appear to be to affiliated links.
    I do recommend that players avoid accepting bonuses and make a test withdrawal as soon as possible after joining

    Perhaps Superior Casino don't like me withdrawing more than I put in, but surely that's the point of playing in the first place!











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    Re: Beware Recommended Casinos !!
    « Reply #1 on: April 23, 2018, 05:47:25 pm »
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  • You are right my friend, the same happened to me on other cases...
    I've received that promotional email too, but for me was on the top of those 2 casinos you've mentioned, "mr Green casino" too.
    When I've attempted to register an account with "mr Green" I saw that players from Greece are not allowed to open account and play.
    I've ignored the other 2, but since there were rumors about the reputation and variety of "mr Green" games I've decided to give it a try, but it has been proved as waste of time.

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    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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    Re: Beware Recommended Casinos !!
    « Reply #2 on: April 24, 2018, 10:08:13 am »
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  • I'm not surprised MrGreen casino was recommended as their affiliate program offers up to 45% commission!
    It appears that the more you lose the more the referrer gets.

    By the way I'm still waiting for my Withdrawal from SuperiorCasino made on the 6th April !

    So much for the quote from a Roulette30 member that said:
    "We have searched long and hard to find this one. According to player's opinion and our own experiences, it is definitely the best .........."
    What a load of rubbish !

    Perhaps it should read "We have searched for casinos that pay us commission for introducing players"










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    Re: Beware Recommended Casinos !!
    « Reply #3 on: April 24, 2018, 05:11:34 pm »
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  • I'm not surprised MrGreen casino was recommended as their affiliate program offers up to 45% commission!
    It appears that the more you lose the more the referrer gets.

    By the way I'm still waiting for my Withdrawal from SuperiorCasino made on the 6th April !

    So much for the quote from a Roulette30 member that said:
    "We have searched long and hard to find this one. According to player's opinion and our own experiences, it is definitely the best .........."
    What a load of rubbish !

    Perhaps it should read "We have searched for casinos that pay us commission for introducing players"

    Sharp eye!  Keep up the good work!
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    « Reply #4 on: April 25, 2018, 12:46:44 am »
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  • And how about the frenzy about digital currencies?
    It's a baloney for me, 1 day you may have a certain amount on the monitor of your PC and the next nothing...all an illusion and as sudden it has appeared it will sudden disappear!
    But don't listen to me, the experienced financial consultant with offices at Long Island NY and Henderson NV, corporations with Swiss and Cypriot financial institutions, listen to your heart instead!
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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    Re: Beware Recommended Casinos !!
    « Reply #5 on: April 26, 2018, 10:27:38 pm »
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  • After 20 days I still can't withdraw from Superior Casino !!

    I verified my ID then they said they couldn't read a tiff file
    So I sent jpg and pdf files

    Now they say they get an error when trying to pay me through Neteller !!
    Which is what I used to deposit with them the day before!

    They now say they've reversed my withdrawal and I should try again!

    Rather than wait another few weeks I've emailed them my Neteller account number (which they already have) and asked them to pay me immediately !

    Perhaps this casino aren't used to people withdrawing $1 more than they deposit

    I wonder if anybody has ever managed to withdraw more money than they put in !
    Please let me know.

    In the meantime Beware Recommended Casinos !! (even from members of this forum)








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    « Reply #6 on: April 29, 2018, 10:48:22 am »
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  • Superior Casino now inform me that "Our Payouts Department does not work during the weekend. "
    I bet you can pay in though !

    Meanwhile, nobody on this forum has confirmed  that they have managed to withdraw more money than they put in.

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    « Reply #7 on: May 01, 2018, 12:26:49 am »
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  • Superior Casino now inform me that "Our Payouts Department does not work during the weekend. "
    I bet you can pay in though !

    Meanwhile, nobody on this forum has confirmed  that they have managed to withdraw more money than they put in.


    You mean to the particular casino or in general?
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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    « Reply #8 on: May 01, 2018, 04:40:46 pm »
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  • I meant has anyone ever managed to withdraw more than they out in from Superior Casino.

    OMG! Wait I have it's just come in I only had to wait about 4 weeks :cheer:.

    They now say "a change of poicies at Neteller do not allow us to process to UK residents. We were able to work around this issue this time but encourage you use to Bitcoin to withdraw in the future"

    So as I said in the first place "Beware Recommended Casinos !!"

    However I've now  made $1 profit!  :cheer:
    What shall I spend it on?

    It just goes to prove that one should always test the withdrawal systems before depositing any serious amount.

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    « Reply #9 on: May 01, 2018, 04:53:42 pm »
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  • How much are candy bars there in the UK?  Most here are $1.39 to $1.99 but occasional at one of the bigger markets we can buy them for right at .89 but only sometimes.  Not gas stations or c-stores.
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    « Reply #10 on: May 01, 2018, 05:01:45 pm »
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  • How much are candy bars there in the UK?  Most here are $1.39 to $1.99 but occasional at one of the bigger markets we can buy them for right at .89 but only sometimes.  Not gas stations or c-stores.


    A dollar gets a nickel's worth...!
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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    « Reply #11 on: May 01, 2018, 05:16:26 pm »
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  • @ Mathemagecian,


    No, I've not and after what you reported I wouldn't.
    If you have 1 up to 4 available options regarding on-line casinos, with fast and reliable payments, then this is all you need.
    Why to constantly seek for new ones when you have them already?
    Finding reputable and reliable casinos perhaps is more useful for newbies on the on-line casinos field, but only for them and they will eventually be no longer newbies after a few weeks, so what's the point of bothering with new on-line casinos?!
    Do we have to bother every single time a new on-line casino pops up out of the blue?!
    Don't think so, that's not the point, it never was, except if you are one of those who are looking to make a buck with the misfortunes of others by introducing referrals.
    Those referrals have their interest in side with the casinos and against us, they also are spamming the web with recycled garbage and they call it marketing campaign!  :thumbsdown:
    Such activity has made real useful and free information hard to find because they've buried it with a ton of junk.
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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    « Reply #12 on: May 01, 2018, 05:41:20 pm »
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  • By referring you could earn from 40% up to 50% out of the total losses of the ones you register under your name/account.
    This works on monthly basis, this is the most usual plan, you might have heard it as: "bring your friend".
    However, it's not the only plan, they could pay a fixed amount per registration and deposit but because of a lot of deposits without wagering, or wagering with very limited loss (betting Black & Red simultaneously or betting 37 numbers on the same time), they have withdraw these kind of bonuses and fixed payments per registration/deposit.
    Almost all of the on-line casinos/bookmakers are working with the 40 to 50% from total loss, so I've grabbed such opportunity, I've introduced myself as referral and client on the same time!
    Therefore I won when I won and got half of my total losses back when I lost, all in all a win-win situation!!
    When you live by the scam then you will die by the scam...effectively reversing their weapons against them!
     >:D :beer:  Cheers!

    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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    « Reply #13 on: May 02, 2018, 09:35:44 am »
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  • I managed to get my money by submitting a complaint to www.askgamblers.com who did supply a useful service in this case.

    As you say I've already got several reliable casinos I only looked at Superior Casino as it was apparently highly recommended by this forum! (image attached with part of the senders name redacted)
    It was recommended for US players, and I looked at it as some of my RouletteKeyGold USA customers have difficulty finding somewhere to play.
    But I didn't want to recommend it without testing them first.
    It's only fair to me to mention that I also tried Royal Panda who paid out within 24 hours . :applause:

    Superior Casino blamed their payout problems on a change of policies at Neteller (image attached) but I still suspect it's because I tried to withdraw more than my initial deposit.

    However, in case they are correct and their is a problem with Neteller in the UK then perhaps UK players should be wary when using Neteller at some casinos.
    I've emailed Neteller with details and am awaiting their response (but they are not exactly quick in replying!)






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    « Reply #14 on: May 02, 2018, 10:58:58 am »
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  • I've had a reply from Neteller they effectively say "No Comment" (image attached)

    Also Wizard of Odds said in October last year  that Superior doesn't accept players from the UK

    It's odd how Superior Casino my money in the first place, isn't it ? >:D